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King James bible is only a little over 400 years ago.

The King James copied from other Existing Bibles too. So, how can you base your argument on KJB when hundreds of years before it many Bibles already existed.

Do you really have a point?

Your current quran, Hafs was produced in 1923 in Egypt. Less than 100 years ago.

Maynmann:
The first and original New Testament is the most DOCTORED AND EDITED DOCUMENT IN HISTORY, after the forgery, king james of the england church created his own VERSION for his church.


Which VERSION of the bible are you using?

TenQ:
Exactly,
I replaced Allah with Jesus and the true translation of the script was rendered

If you replace Jesus with Allah, you will see that Google will mistranslate the sentence to mean a completely different statement!

hahaha they are reading this and wondering what to say. They are helpless and hopeless in severe pain as we tear down this noble quran for them. It is bewildering. Somehow enervating to see defenders of the islamic faith suddenly disappear and can't even stand or shake.

TenQ:
I am actually surprised at Google. They've been modifying the translation since I started posting about it about a month ago.

How much were they paid to do this?

I will tell you. The GOVERNMENT, not just individuals, are buying stocks in top western companies. Their targets are the west. They use this to control the narrative. That is why posts are sensors and banned on top platforms. They also have advertising deals with top companies in the world to deter you from exposing Islam. For Saudis, the Hajj is one of the reasons for their existence. It is a huge fanfare the Hajj.
They rake in billions from tourism. They have an airline called Saudia airline. Las time I flew it, I regretted. There were too many almajiris on the plane. The entire plane was oozing. Their dress code was horrible and they buy all sorts of toxins claiming to be from the holy land. They have holy water, dates, carpets etc.

So google is abiding to certain terms too. Majority of the Arabic translators are Muslims. They will phrase their religion in the light that they want you to see it. Do not always rely on it.

TenQ:
How about this: I see that Google translate is getting smarter. Guess some people have reported me to them


إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

They seem not to have taken care of this though!

Final translation of the above please!

It is the same as the other but issa/Jesus was substituted
that Jesus and his angels prayed to the prophet, you people or you guys who are faith-ful pray to him and surrender peace to him.

TenQ:
How about this: I see that Google translate is getting smarter. Guess some people have reported me to them

إِنَّ عيسى وَمَلَـٰۤىِٕكَتَهُۥ یُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِیِّۚ یَـٰۤأَیُّهَا ٱلَّذِینَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَیۡهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسۡلِیمًا ۝٥

They seem not to have taken care of this though!

Final translation of the above please!

Bro, Arabs know this. The only reason stopping many from leaving islam is the rebuttal. There is a huge list of Saudi Arabian who have left islam.

They understand everything. These black abeeds are ignorant. They do not know what they are fighting for. Iranians are protesting to liberate themselves from islam, while these black monkeeez are fighting to enslave themselves.

That name was stolen from Christian just like many other names in Arabic. Originality is a rare gem to them

TenQ:
The question was very simple

Yaḥyā ibn Zakarīyā
(Arabic: يحيى ابن زكريا, )

What is the meaning of Yaḥyā?

The name occurred at least five times in the Qur'an!

There is nothing like Bible version. Christianity has only one Bible. The problem of versions were caused by Muslims who from the 6th century began burning all Bible copies. You burned the scrolls. Muslims invaded Jerusalem right from the 7th century and all the did was burn all that Mohammed himself referred to as the word of God.

Your muslims are the reason why we cannot have thousands more of the copies of ancient scrolls. If not that God protected the dead sea scrolls, you would have burned it.

If not for the west that protected Israel, we Christians would have had almost nothing of the ancient relics or the original texts of the Bible. why did you burn the copies of the Bible? Thank God for israel as a nation that archeologists are able to unearth vital information to prove the veracity of the Bible.

There are about 56 qurans out there. Hafs is the one approved by Saudi but The mushaf muhammadī is used in Morocco. There are hundreds of differences in all these qurans too. if we date back to the early quranic scripts which are all from the 9th century, you will be shocked the corections done at that time and today saudi Arabians have foudn 2500 errors in the quran.

Saudi Arabians discovered that Allah was wrong 2500 times. And, to think of it, they live close to Mecca.

All the versions of the Bible go back to one single source. The manuscripts can be used to identify flaws in the Bible. Unlike the quran.

Maynmann:
Which bible VERSION are you using?

You are surely getting education from my posts. Good job. Now you know yahyah? Nice!!

TenQ:
What is the meaning of Yahyah?

LegalWolf:
Mr. Man!!!! You’re so shameless. In defence of your lie, you’re still lying again? I brought up Al-Haythami? You need to be saved, sincerely.

You see why you are stuck in the basement of idiocy? You cannot respond to my message. you keep attacking me. Attack the message. If you have a counter argument, present it! That is called Flow of Communication

TenQ:
Can you truthfully and without lies help me translate this into English language

Composition102:
إِنَّ جبريل وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا

I will translate this literally to you.

that Gabriel and his angels prayed to the prophet, you people or you guys who are faith-ful pray to him and surrender peace to him.

This is the literal translation. The most basic that I can dare from Arabic to English. Call any Arabic speaker and remove allah and jubril from the equation. Inject faisal in it and you will get this that I put up there. No jokes bro.

We did not even start with Al-Haythami. You were the one who brought him up. We started off with At-Tabarani. Read my post again before you get worked up over your peniss-kissing prophettt. In islamic Fiqh, the hadith is considered to be authentic enough.

And, it is good that you keep bringing in more names. I will help you.

Ibn Qadama wrote in his Fiqh book 'Al-Mughani' :
According to Imam Zuhri and Imam al-Owza'ii it is not needed to do Wadhu (ritual washing) again after touching the penis of a small boy, and it is also also allowed to see and touch it. And it is narrated from the Messanger of Islam (saw) that he kissed the penis of al-Hassan and he didn't do his Wadhu again.

Ibn Taymiyyah wrote in his Fatwa book:
Ahmad bin Taymiyyah said: The Messanger of Allah (saw) used to kiss the penis of al-Hassan.

And Imam al-Nawawi wrote in his Fiqh Book [Al-Majmu’, Vol. 2 pp. 46 – 47]:
“Some of the people of knowledge say: ,,The ablution is broken by touching one’s own penis excluding the other.” And I reply to these people with the proof of the tradition of Talq Ibn Ali, may God be pleased with him, that the Messenger (s.) was asked about touching from the penis in prayer, whereupon he said: “Should it be something other than a piece of you?” And through Abu Lailah, who said: “We were with the Prophet Muhammad (s.), whereupon Al-Hasan came rolling on him. Then he removed his shirt and kissed his penis.” And because he touched a part of his body,the ablution was not broken like the rest of the body parts and our companions prove it with the narration of Busrah and it is authentic (Sahih) just as we have submitted its explanation and in a narration Umm Habibah said: “I heard the Prophet Muhammad (s.) say: “Whoever touches his own private parts should perform the ablution.” Al-Baihaqi commented that At-Tirmidhi said: “I asked Abu Zur’ah about the narration of Umm Habibah, whereupon he considered it good (Hasan).” He said: “I saw him considering it as being preserved.”

And, you are attacking my intelligence but I keep proving things to you. Even when you search the internet, you will not see some of the things I unravel here. It takes brilliance to catch these details. Your SCHOLARS missed them. They didn't know someone like me would come up and outsmart them. Many people are being directed to my account to get more details. I called a huge Islam critic based in the US who has a platform and all I did was afford him my username here. He is doing wonders with it.

I have the quran here with me. I don't want to brag but it was a gift and I cherish gifts haha. So, I am reading it and bringing out the flaws. It has been years that I saw many nonsense in the quran and was part of the reason why I had to leave cos my big mouth was going to leak someday and they smite my neck for blasphemy. So, I'd better be out. I really did not come here for Islam. I came here for trolls and comic relief cos I am at a point in my life where I just wanna chill and have fun. Your guys pushed me into this. Got me banned for stating a basic obvious fact??

So, here I am. You will enjoy me. I miss my old diary. I would have had it so easy. Now, I am going verse by verse haha on a treasure hunt. How do you like me now? haha

I have never claimed to be a lawyer. I would be smoking methyl to say that. I told you from the get-go that I am a computer coding guru. I am into data programming and some...

Questioning my language skill? haha I dwarf you sir. I am an enigma to you. Don't even compare. Lay low for that is an utterly dangerous route. Yes, I am a polyglot. I do not want you to feel sad about your life. I will limit what I say about myself. Take the law and keep it. Let us focus on islam that is wrecking your life

LegalWolf:
Lol, but you’ve been lying up and down. First of, you insinuated that you are a lawyer and when I inched closer to the truth (because u fumbled by talking about perjury) u backtracked. You claim you speak 9 languages and I honestly acknowledge that there is no way in earth I can verify that. But deep down you, that is a lie. Now you were caught lying to salvage a pint and you shameless said “you said what you said” and you expect me to take you seriously?

Your character is in question. You lie without trouser to attack Islam and defend Christianity and that is shameful. You had once acknowledged the strength of my argument when we talking about trinity (saying something along the lines that before u believe in resurrection, you have to believe in God first), so why can’t you do the same in other places rather than lie.

If you had said LW, I lied about Al-Haythami,
I would have ignored and see u as honourable. But no, you insisted on your lie and you expect me to take you seriously. Did yhwh tell u to lie?

You expect me to answer your question but u haven’t answered mine. No be ment be that. Mr. Man, answer my question on the language the Bible was initially written, please (now I’m begging)

They are busy chasing the actresses, drinking and sexingg and forgetting time. They are proud and full of themselves. I see no reason why an actor cannot get a 9 to 5 job to support himself. Why can't they venture into business?

afroedo:
actress buy house, car, Endorsements Deal,wetin do actors na, congrats dear
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Surah 80:11-13 But no! This ˹revelation˺ is truly a reminder, So let whoever wills be mindful of it. It is ˹written˺ on pages held in honour

Who actually wrote the quran? Where are the PAGES (not verbal wordings) of the quran GIVEN to Mohammed?

Muslims claim to have originally memorized the quran but allah said that IT WAS WRITTEN IN PAGES.

So, where are the PAGES of that quran THAT ALLAH WROTE and GAVE to Mohammed??

Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹RECORDED˺ IN A PRESERVED TABLET.

10m?? eeewww. That is slavery. 10m deal?
Pay attention to this:
Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹recorded˺ in a Preserved Tablet.

Muslims believe that the Quran was orally revealed. But Allah insists that he RECORDED IT IN A TABLET as you can read above in the quran.

Where are the tablets on which the quran was written and preserved by allah ?

Why does Islam today refute allah's claim and teach that the quran was compiled and RECORDED by Uthman about 30 years after mohammed's death.

Did allah lie that he RECORDED THE QURAN IN A PRESERVED TABLET?

They are shameless

TenQ:
Without lies, Islam crumbles!
Their father is a liar from the beginning of time!

No wonder, in jannah, muslims would be unable to recognize their allah who has two right hands

Maynmann:
Shameless lying Christian, everyone is seeing you for who you are.

Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹recorded˺ in a Preserved Tablet.

Muslims believe that the Quran was orally revealed. But Allah insists that he RECORDED IT IN A TABLET.

Where are the tablets on which the quran was written and preserved by allah ?

Why does Islam today refute allah's claim and teach that the quran was compiled and RECORDED by Uthman about 30 years after mohammed's death.

Did allah lie that he RECORDED THE QURAN IN A PRESERVED TABLET?

I only posted a verse in the quran. is the quran lies?

LegalWolf:
Lol, Mr. man, stop being a wuss! You’ve lied and you’ve been caught. Despite your character being questionable, still engaging. Kindly answer the questions regarding the authorship of the Bible please

Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹recorded˺ in a Preserved Tablet.

Muslims believe that the Quran was orally revealed. But Allah insists that he RECORDED IT IN A TABLET.

Where are the tablets on which the quran was written and preserved by allah ?

Why does Islam today refute allah's claim and teach that the quran was compiled and RECORDED by Uthman about 30 years after mohammed's death.

Did allah lie that he RECORDED THE QURAN IN A PRESERVED TABLET?

I posted the quran verses but your fellow muslim said that I lied. It was a verse in the quran

In what way do you bloody my nose? You are being irrational and acting like a toddler. You can neither understand nor compute simple coherent phrases. So much for being a lawyer. Answer the question and stop acting like your liver still finctions

LegalWolf:
Hey TenQ, I haven’t been following your arguments. I’ve been bloodying sixfiguresmart nose for a while. Don’t worry, let me finish with him, I’m coming to you soon.

But just a few questions - are you willing to subject yhwh, christianity’s theological doctrines and ur storybook aka Bible in the witness box? Are willing to stand up to challenge of these challenge?

TenQ:
Islam's primary purpose is to infiltrate Judaism and Christianity and then REPLACE them with Islam.

For Christianity:
Islam attacks the fundamental of Christianity
1. Death and Resurrection of Jesus CHrist
2. Atonement by Blood
3. Personality of Jesus (Reduced to a mere prophet lower than Mohammed)
4. Undermines the Trinity

They surreptitiously hide in shame whenever they get exposed. Rather than focusing on the fact, they simply want to throw mud on the message

RestructureNig1:
Allah is a demon

hahaha fact.

They are all liars and defenders of lies. That word is a simple Arabic word. Undisputed. It means to pray. That is what they use in the salat. Salat means prayer. salah
يُصَلُّونَ means yusallun = they prayed.
Surah 33:43-44 It is He Who prays on you and His angels invoke blessings on you that He may lead you out of darkness into light. He is Most Compassionate to the believers.
ہُوَ الَّذِیۡ یُصَلِّیۡ عَلَیۡکُمۡ وَمَلٰٓئِکَتُہٗ لِیُخۡرِجَکُمۡ مِّنَ الظُّلُمٰتِ اِلَی النُّوۡرِ ۚ وَکَانَ بِالۡمُؤۡمِنِیۡنَ رَحِیۡمًا

TenQ:
Here is it again

Quran 33:56
إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ وَمَلَـٰٓئِكَتَهُۥ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى ٱلنَّبِىِّ ۚ يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ صَلُّوا۟ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا۟ تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, God and His angels send blessings upon the Prophet, O you who have believed, pray upon him, peace and blessings be upon him.

Composition101:
إِنَّ الشيطان وَمَلَائِكَتَهُ يُصَلُّونَ عَلَى النَّبِيِّ ۚ يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا صَلُّوا عَلَيْهِ وَسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا
Google Translate:
Indeed, Satan and his angels pray to the Prophet ۚ O you who believe, pray for him and give peace
The only difference between the two is the change of one word highlighted.

Suddenly, the meaning changed!?
Who paid Google to mistranslate the Holy Quran?
Who is fooling who?
What then is the correct translation?

Can muslims explain why or how?
What other things are Muslim Apologists hiding under the elusive perfect language (Arabic)?

For your comment if you love the truth:
AntiChristian:..
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:
ictplotter:
Legalwolf:
Watinani:

They themselves are confused. They do not know it. This is way beyond them. They will go hiding. Legalwolf

Sageez:
I'd really love to know the answer

TenQ:
Respect other people's religions and beliefs EXCEPT if they launch a frontal attack on your religion.

That's exactly what Islam did!

He is a fool. He thinks that these guys are playing games with him. He doesn't know that the end goal is to smite his neck. He should ask the Jews in Sudan. Or the Hindus in Pakistan. Or, the Christians in Syria, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Egypt

All historical structures of Saudi have freshly gauged out surfaces? Look in all the pictures here.

In ancient structures, there were usually decorations on the columns, the capitals, the cornices or just about the entrance of every edifice that stood above 10 feet. These are the works of skillful artisans for their kings or emperors.

All the relics of the ancient civilization of the caliphate are destroyed in Saudi Arabia. Look at the sides of all historical structures, the parts where traditionally designs are engraved. All are missing. As a matter of fact, they have reconstructed all these ancient structures to suit the current narrative. Just as the muslims broke the noses of all Egyptian famous artworks, they destroyed all the ancient artworks of their fellow muslims on ancient buildings. They did the same to the kaaba too. Buried every evidence with expensive tiles.

What are they hiding?

Why are they not allowing Archaeologists to dig up contents if they are so confident about their narratives?

The discovery of the remains of hundreds of children at the sites of defunct schools in Canada tells us that if the area surrounding the Kaa'ba is unearthed, the staggering revelation could shake the Muslim world.

Fact: In all the islamic countries, you are not allowed to participate in a religious building if you are non-muslim. That is why they need only the muslims around when excavations works are performed.

Can you rephrase your comment for clarity?

muyico:
Quotes wot u knw?

What in my post indicates disrespect to a religion to you?
Why do I need to be lectured by you how we came to this world?

dawnomike:
You may be right... But, respect other people's religion and beliefs.
No one was born with a religion. We all came to this world and chose what to believe. #Choice

This surely left you absolutely stupefied. You didn't know that the quran held such weapons. Who do you believe now, your scholars, islamic hadiths, or allah?

LegalWolf:
Mr. Man, my questions are begging for answers.. do not dodge. Or you want to lie again ?

surah 87:6 We will have you recite ˹the Quran, O Prophet,˺ so you will not forget ˹any of it˺

Does allah recite the quran too?

To recite the quran, a Muslim should first ask Allah for protection and begin with Bismillah.

So, does allah say Bismillah before reciting the quran?

Legalwolf and antichristian where are the quranic tablets that allah swore to preserve?

Look at the old quran even from the 9th century and still they were still erasing, editing, and etching out flaws. This is Surah 15: 67–74 Without the diacritics. Tell me who decided what diacritic to enter to decide what each word would be. Look closely at each script and see that the older manuscripts were constantly edited.

Even in the 9th century, that is 300 years after Islam and the quran was not ready yet. At this point, they have not decided what allah's word was, in the 9th century.

Do you see why they are scared to open their library in Saudi Arabia up to the public?
Can you tell why they must burn historical facts?
Do you see why a religion that has never suffered any external invasions would not be able to produce evidence of their practices and even their holy book to the public?

All Islamic nations entered a peaceful treaty with the British to protect them. No invasions most especially in the key Islamic states that should house indisputable facts like Mecca.

In the territory of Israel, every now and then, facts are discovered by archaeologists. Even in Egypt, the mummies and relics of the pasts are discovered. Only in Arabia would NOTHING be discovered. NOTHING!

MY GAWD! Where did you find that picture? That has wrecked my morning

OyeofIkoTuN:
My state..

despite all the oil we have,how we never be like Dubai, I just don't MF UNDASTAND.

Even after asaba massacre ,no conscience from this present and past governors to make us proud

Something is wrong somewhere..I swear to God

TueH for politicians.

ndi ala

Surah 85:21-22 In fact, this is a glorious Quran, ˹recorded˺ in a Preserved Tablet.

Muslims believe that the Quran was orally revealed. But Allah insists that he RECORDED IT IN A TABLET.

Where are the tablets on which the quran was written and preserved by allah ?

Why does Islam today refute allah's claim and teach that the quran was compiled and RECORDED by Uthman about 30 years after mohammed's death.

Did allah lie that he RECORDED THE QURAN IN A PRESERVED TABLET?

You seem to be of very low intelligence. You are not formed for the real world. You lack education and exposure. Your level of cognizance is at an alarming rate. I can't reason with such lowlife like you. There is no brain left in your skull. That is why ignore you. You are extremely vapid

Maynmann:
Why are you borrowing books from judaism?
Are you worshipping their deities too?

Sixfiguresmart, which VERSION of the bible are you using?