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VerifiedStalin:
Moviegoers would sure love to spend three hours in a theater watching a CSI Batman collect samples and obsess over DNA residue. That would be an engrossing viewing indeed!

roughly two weeks away, no rush

AnfieldFan:
Batman will comfortably do 800M and possibly north of a billion...

This is Batman we are talking about here folks, it doesn't even need to be good, just by virtue of being Batman, it will do numbers...As bad as BVS was, it did 872m and even though it was disappointing considering they A list heroes featured, those are still solid numbers. I for one think this Batman will be different from others as it seems this one will have a detective vibe, a lot of mystery, gritty violence and actual competent Choreography.
Also, from the novel, this Batman loves Chemistry, takes samples, residue and what have you(In essence, a Batman that is smart)..
They can't fu*k up this movie, WB has given everything and gone gung ho on Marketing...

ppl seem to forget this is a 3hrs movie and we have only seen Abt just 10mins of it from trailers and the likes. From what have seen from trailers no way the movie won't do well. Every movie have seen in the cinema made a billion, my sweet batman won't be different

Kaycee7:
Ben Affleck is such a legend

Affleck is 49 years Keaton is 70years how is the story true

Kaycee7:
Interstellar wasn't action-packed/humorous and yet grossed $700 million.
The storytelling just needs to be compelling. And that's not exactly impossible for a Batman story.

are ppl really bothered Abt the length of films or is it just me that don't? Most fantastic movies are over two hrs long even NWH and ppl still crave for more, what matters is the story telling

Minemrys:
My point exactly. I don't recall interstellar or Inception being flops. I wouldn't say they're coming to their senses, WB have directors they trust more or perhaps it was in the contract they signed with Reeves regarding any external interference as to the shape or nature of the movie prior to him agreeing to sign up. I don't know but I wouldn't keep my hopes up.

I think they just trust some directors more, funny part is na 3hrs movie dey interest me pass because I feel it will have more content.

Nickshrapnel:
Okay, let’s make this comparison. Compare when Bale was fighting Joker’s goon to when Affleck was fighting regime soldiers in knightmare scene. Which is more badass?

hmmm didn't even remember this scene, u kinda right if we were to judge based on this particular scene, but bale had to leave that fight otherwise he will have been overwhelmed just like Affleck was in his scene

Xavier5:
And how was Batfleck performance against those super powered being? Did he engage in physical combat or he was just running around with a shooter doing nothing, letting his colleagues do the job. Which is exactly what I'm saying, Batfleck was powerless when he went against super powered beings.

Putting this into consideration, it laughable how people will claim Batfleck is a better fighter or is better than Bale's Batman because of the warehouse scene. If you want to compare, compare properly by considering the circumstance involve rather than just picking a scene and assuming a version of a character is better because of that.

Don't also forget, WW was the one that saved him from being barbecued by Doomsday. Also Batfleck has a team to fight along side with unlike Bale's Batman that is solo.

Powerless bane, seriously? As for the dogs, we're talking about huge dogs (I don't know the breed though), and we all know how fast, strong and fierce those kind of dogs are. Put Batfleck against such dogs and lets see how he will fare, and do not forget, everything boils down to the Director.

Anyway, we move.

#Xavier
#DCian

lol u ppl are just arguing over nothing, the director portrayed both batman differently in physicality, and skills, obvious Affleck had better fight scenes not just bcus of the director, but the fight choreography director matters again. Have always preferred Affleck Batman, bcus he was really physical and was portrayed to be very good at hang to hand combat unlike Nolan, but storywise bale was a better batman, and just like someone said, he had his own movie, and if Affleck had his he he might have been better. Might the key word

Where are the people shouting Salah yesterday

TonySpike:
Even Zack Snyder's Army of the Dead which was heavily pirated become one of the top ten movies of all time on Netflix. Let them bring more excuses for TSS.

na Snyder fans troop in go watch am, just to have bragging right like u do now. Movie that wasn't any special to me, I even prefer army of the thieves.

If for say na Snyder direct army of theThieves we no go hear word, u guys will have trooped just to stream for bragging sake

Minemrys:
Let's be honest, the real brain behind the MCU is Kevin feige. If you send Ayer over to the MCU, he would produce something that is critically acclaimed cause he will be working with people who know what they want and how they want it.

I was going to say same, MCU is designed in such a way that director just have little input, watched a documentary of how MCU already have the whole movies done in animation already, camera angles and all that, as a director u no to get creative control unlike WB who gives directors more freedom to do what they want.

I feige actually listen to fans, he is really amazing

SMUAG:
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If they run after the Russo's brothers then I will be one of the happiest guy on earth...
Those guys are different breed o... Didn't you see their first movie with MCU, The Winter Soldier.....that movie is god tier.....
From their first movie with the MCU, Kevin Feige knew he has found a gem despite their first was against MCU's style....
Moreover, those guys are just like Messi or CR7 in CBM world! You can't easily toss them around or sign them just like that.
For clarity sake; James Gunn was/is just a means to an end, my brother.... He can be tossed....

lol

AnfieldFan:
So many people's best movie who mostly happen to be DC/ Snyder fans..
Purple, the 4 hour long Justice league movie we saw wouldn't perform much better than Whedon's version...

Superman had a love interest in his movie but didn't have any chemistry; infact, one of my biggest peeves in Man of Steel(and this was really big in the criticism it got) aside letting his father die was how inconsequential Lois was in the movie, their romance felt shoehorned because Clark has to have Lois..

Batman was an emotionless shell who was branding people in BVS(In Snyder's mind, it was supposed to be badass but ultimately,it was flat and lame) .. Someone who's experienced too many losses in his life including the death of Robin stopped pummeling Supes because their mothers share the same names...

I didn't talk about Wonder woman because Patty actually gave her soul...

I won't talk about Snyder again... I'm looking forward to future DCEU releases and wish them the best because I believe MCU needs a prominent competitor...

even in titans recent season, Bruce was worn out and broken almost like what Snyder portrayed, but he still has compassion and after robin death, we saw him take revenge out of love, but he didn't go over the edge and viewers will understand and feel his pain. To think batman had a grudge with Superman because of the collateral damages that occurred while superman was trying to save the earth from several treats, same treats that didn't make batman angry enuf to suit up to protect ppl.

Come on

PurpLChi:
Zack is a genius and he has already left his mark in Hollywood if grown men can just wake up on a Sunday morning and start arguing about his films.

lol real genius

PurpLChi:
There is no way ZSJL would have performed lesser than Whedon's trash...there is no way you can watch both movies and not see the glaring differences unless you're just biased.
The movie was soomany people's best movie for 2021 for a reason.

And talking about the characters didn't have soul is mind boggling...you mentioned Aquaman having a love interest, didn't Clark have Lois Was Batman not still clearly hurting from his parents death??Even WW retired cos of her lover's death.

LMAO. So many people best movie of 2021 u say?

AnfieldFan:
Not sure this is entirely correct...CBM fans didn't like it very much but general audience liked it....It also did ok with critics and grossed 894.9 million(Grossed more than BVS)...

But I agree with you, Snyder had to do a lot of things with little run-time so he failed understandably...But those characters didn't have soul and I feel even if you gave Snyder more movies, he still wouldn't be able to do that...
Lemme give you an example, Aquaman by Wan left us feeling Aquaman more which in turn makes you invested in his story... Directors sometimes manifest this with a romantic love interest or with something passionate to the character...

Another example; People are looking forward to Peacemaker, why you might ask considering he shared screentime with other characters in an ensemble movie. The answer is simple, Gunn managed to get people invested in the guys story despite a short arc in the movie..

In the first SS movie, Ayer did this with Deadshot and Harley Quinn by humanizing Deadshot through his daughter (Will's a great actor so it helped) and even though the film wasn't too good, it had bright spots..

A director who can make people connect with characters can will always be regarded as better than those who can make great action sequences...

People say a lot about ZJL but I've seen the two and I still reiterate, both movies are more or less the same with the difference being Snyder's work wasn't edited(Everything he filmed was in the movie). Had JL opened in theaters with that 4hour run-time, it might have even performed more poorly than Whedon's own..

u just echoed same thing have always said, but their blinded love won't let them admit it, what was the difference btw ZJL and Jossticleague longer Amazon battle scenes, flash and iris scene which had nothing to the story line, with a bad effect self, the darksied backstory scene, and the 3rd act had batman and flash more input, but if u take off the luxury of that extra 2hrs I don't think he will have the chance to do all that.

But then which one be my own headache ontop Snyder so far he isn't in control of things anymore am good, let's wait and see is starwars like movie, really hoping he proves me wrong.

Minemrys:
Yeah, then you got to wonder why no one showed up during the MOS event or at Midway City when enchantress was on the rout.
Of course you can use an alien invasion but how do you explain amateur heroes suddenly banding together when everyone of them were low profile. It all boiled down to the story and how the world was set up.
The only way the JL could have been formed in the dceu was by the government, just as in the MCU. Superman was never going to do it.
I no even want argue am. Superman's death gave the world a sense of fear and helped developed the other characters whom we weren't able to get their solo films, which then boils down to world building. Superman being around would have halted some character development, particularly Batman, Aquaman and Cyborg.
And I am sure you won't be happy if they had created a plot device to reduce Superman's scenes in the film.

ok

Minemrys:
Oga, in my opinion I don't see anything special in that film. I saw it once and I am not ready to see it. I don't praise films cause the general audience or critics love or hate it. Or cause a particular director is behind it. I am the kind of person that doesn't get the hype for certain films like star wars, game of thrones, Lord of the rings. I hate the Nolan film about time loop that came out last year even if critics praised it.
The earlier you realize some films get higher ratings than others just because of the names behind it, you discover the whole thing is all about opinion and opinions getting influenced.

Ok

PurpLChi:
Still going...

okay

PurpLChi:
you done tire for arguement but you're still arguing...

didn't notice I still made an argument, no vex, maybe my definition of argument is different from urs

Minemrys:
Bros, if I asked you to write a screen play and to direct a film introducing Batman, Wonder woman, Lex Luthor, Barry Allen, Cyborg, Arthur Curry, build on the relationship between Clark and Lois, show their work life, continue the subject matter from the previous film, build a shared universe which wasn't the plan from Inception, bring in some new topics while working with a 3hr run time, there's a lot you can do yet little you can. The Ultimate cut of BVS did the thing justice for what it tried to achieve; aside that Martha moment. What gave it bad publicity was the theatrical cut.
You talk about Avatar like it was some master piece, dude, had that movie not had James Cameron name on it, it would very much have been another movie.
I very much couldn't sit through the film, didn't get the hype for it, not interested in the sequels. That's just my opinion.

But give any director the whole concept of BvS that Terrio and Snyder had to work with, ask them to come up with a story, you won't get anything better than what Snyder and Terrio tried to achieve, without criticisms. A lot was going on in that film that it would have on a normal day needed one more movie to fully flesh out things that it didn't have the luxury to.
Speaking of the avengers infinity war and endgame, had it been forced on Joss Whedon to make immediately after Iron Man 2, it wouldn't have worked out well like it did, cause audiences won't have been connected to various characters or topics, and much explanation will have to be done. In fact the films won't be as we know it.
Any wonder how a director like Raimi fails with Spiderman 3? He had to introduce 3 new characters centred to the narrative, continue the stories of previous film, build on new topics and so on. And that's nothing compared with what Terrio had to write.

I gave up when u said avater isn't anything special without James Cameron name in it. But bros I fear u oo, ah! No be avatar the cartoon o.

But I done tire for argument, so whatever u say my Lord, u are right!

Minemrys:
Well, I guess you should tell WB to get the cartoons transcribed into live action, let's see if it would work.
You know, tell me how the JL could have been formed without Superman dying.

I already did

Minemrys:
Well, I guess you should tell WB to get the cartoons transcribed into live action, let's see if it would work.
You know, tell me how the JL could have been formed without Superman dying.

kk

Minemrys:
Of course, they didn't have to. But I am sure you slept throughout MOS or BvS to know that Batman was never going to gather a super army basing off his characterization as an Old retired vigilante with a distrust regarding super powered people. Wonder woman wouldn't considering she was done. Superman was just going through an identity crisis after what happened in MOS, he wasn't in to form a league. He hadn't figured out the whole superhero thing. He only swooped in to rescue people. He was barely going out to fight crime. No one knew of any other alien threat that requires an army. No one knew there were other metas till Lex. The story is self explanatory. You don't create something unless there was a catalyst.
In a story that had everything in it, new characters, world building etc, you need a believable way to form the league. And the absence of the most powerful superhero will do that. Or how else would you do it with the story Snyder had to work with knowing you have to do alot in one film?

u are completely right I slpt Tru MOS and BVS I remember waking up half way and seeing u in my room with so much joy and admiration for seeing a Snyder crap, lol.

Anyways I will have agreed with all u said if I had not seen other just league cartoon with a better execution, but who am I to argue with u, Snyder bad movies are completely WB faults and we who don't like his movies bcus majority of us are brain dead and we don't know good movie, or we slpt all tru the movies so we don't understand them.

Lmao

SMUAG:
Majority with a catastrophic box office abi.... No wahala, continue....

Lol, u keep choosing not to acknowledge that the said movie was released on HBO max same day, with pirated copies on the internet 24hrs later,

Minemrys:
Lol...it was the post credits scene of not up to 3 mins that were shot. And before Snyder gave up, there were some scenes he would have reshot or added before Whedon came in.
I don't think whatever footage Snyder shot took 3 weeks.

If you say so who am I to argue with the lords

SMUAG:
lol...
The way u dey talk ehn, person wey no know go think say u dey inside WB office now dey work with dem...lmaooo
Make we dey watch na, no b WB wey we don see taya....I laugh in Jamaica...
For the record, James Gunn early days was more leaned towards horror, but the MCU's Kevin Feige changed him and it's that change WB wanted, not his actually root.

lol, we don't have to wait for long, it all starts march 3rd, if that were true, then WB shud be running after the Russo brothers or don't you think so?

SMUAG:
And that's why WB will keep failing until they realised their mistakes....
Movies like JL is never suppose to be a 2hrs to 2hrs 30mins movie especially when there is no proper flesh out stories to back/support it.
Even the Avengers: infinity and endgame were way more than 2hrs despite all the sub-plots to plots were already there.
Take James Cameron's Avatar for an example here - that movie didn't even have too much characters going, but yet it was roughly 3hrs. Or you want to say James didn't know what he was doing for making Avatar that long right....
What about Lord of the Rings trilogy too. Are you also saying Peter Jackson too can't tell a good story.....

lol, avater was engaging all tru the 3hrs, same as Infinity wars and end game, and infact had more characters. BvS was 3hrs more than half of that 3hrs was boring IMO and I think the reviews agrees, I don't have a review with Snyder but I have issue with his movies. Lol comparing BVS and ZJL to avatar, Infinity wars and endgame? They are the highest grossing movie for a reason

PurpLChi:
Their back and forth dey amuse me cos they are both arguing like extremists

lol we all know the extremist, they always have an #tag. On the contray they actually amuse me, I always enjoy proving them wrong

PurpLChi:
Lmao thanks for amusing us this morning

u wlc my dear.

SMUAG:
With that stup*d giant villain right....
Story for the gods....
I will pick the first Suicide Squad movie over this MCU movie in DCEU world any day anytime....

lol, there is a reason majority complained abt the old SS and more viewers likes the 2021 TSS better, and like they always say majority carries the vote

Minemrys:
Thekingishere said part of the reason Affleck stepped out of the role was cause of his alcohol issues. I never believed that. Lots of actors are alcoholics, and drug users and still pull off roles, i.e Ezra Miller. Affleck first hand witnessed what WB did to the films. He had an idea what he was signing in to, he wouldn't have signed up if it was the trash it later became. He most definitely wouldn't have agreed to film scenes for Snyder cut if Zack had been the problem at the get go.

the fact that some actors went to shoot extra scenes for ZJL gives the impression Zack change his original plan a little just to satisfy the fan plan that wasn't in the original script Joss worked on

abduleez1:
Hmmmm....

Key word, "interpretation"