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seunny4lif:
Bayern München 5 vs Bremen 0

Are you a bayern fan

A40:
Schalke are completely out of it. While we are hoping the Bundesliga 'idol' performs a miracle Leverkusen as useless as they can be were a CL team prior to his arrival

Fingers crossed Wolfsburg or Gladbach can squeeze through

The other Idol Papa Djibiti is collecting his own shellacking as I type 5-0 already

afrodoc2:
Look at what Mikel has caused? Shior , useless player

The spirit revealed that to you

2nd goal for Muller. His 5th brace of the season

Emaprince:
See title naa... 5times champions of europe.. I get am before no be property.

#burnthisleaguedown

Go write your own club current property and lets see

Let me the first to blame Mikel for any goal that might be conceded today

Looks like Schalke and Leverkusen are in poor form currently and Wolfsburg is too inconsistent

We might have 2 inexperienced Buli teams making the top 4 this season again as it seems Hetha Berlin would make it

gykes:
Bro, I'm a Rivers man and a proud Ikwerre son... In as much as I would love to learn the Yoruba language, but for now, could you translate what you wrote in English?

Means

You called a man. When we call the name of a brave warrior we strike the sword on the ground in honor of him

gykes:
I have heard yarns of his exploits and campaigns during the war and even that of General Benjamin Adesanya Maja Adekunle "The Black Scorpion". These two where the real heroes of the civil war.

Okunrin lo pe. Bi a ba pe ori akoni a fi ida lale gaaraga

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whats the name and where is it sold

You expect a guy to settle your hospital bill? Na him make you sick?

It looks like you have a peculiar talent for asking stupiiid questions

Ibime:
I thought you said we lost because our attackers couldn't finish and it was nothing to do with midfield? Now you are saying Guus should have bolstered the midfield.
Oscar is not more defensive or more hardworking than Willian, and more importantly he will lose the ball and invite more pressure. In no world does Oscar bring more stability to a midfield than Willian.
I agree with the last point. Matic was the best bet to add more solidity to the midfield, and hope to nick a goal.

Fat has covered your retina. Read the post below

Nihilist:
PSG's midfield yesterday was Rabiot-Motta-Matuidi

That's 3 defensive midfielders. Motta is 34 and as slow as or slower than Mikel. Rabiot is a benchwarmer that has started less than half Of PSG's games this season. I think Matuidi is a very good player but our midfield oga here once said that he only a slightly better Ramires.

Anybody that watched that game without bias would have noticed that PSG's midfield was just as bad.

How many times did Willian and or others steal the ball and run unchallenged through the midfield to their box 18?

Just before halftime we wanted to kill them sef.

This game was lost for 3 reasons in my opinion

1. Tactical - PSG played 3DMs in the middle of the park vs Fab-Mikel and will always have the numerical advantage there. See the way those guys were playing rough, and if not that the ref was an oloshi, they should have chopped red very early in the game. We essentially played 1 DM versus 3 specialists and we're blaming Mikel?

2. They simply had to be better attack. We had almost as many chances as PSG but we just couldn't convert.

Ibra-Moura-Angel are better than our attack. That's just a simple fact. That game could have very early ended in our favour. When Costa left we didn't even know where the post was again...and Luiz was just bullying Traore like a schoolboy.

3.Yes Azpi messed up twice along with Cahill

How Mikel is on the blame list is beyond me

^^ Though both Ibime and Nihilists are weedhead but for this week nihilist igbo is better. Ibime just dey smoke nonsense

Hindsight is 20/20 but I think vs PSG you need workers who are ready to fight all game given that PSG dropped Pastore and Cavani and played with 3 battlers in midfield and 2 runners in Di maria and Moura you cant have players just faffing around

Its a battle of the hardworkers.


----Mikel--Matic
-Willian--Fabregas--Pedro/Oscar
------Costa

If Ramires was available I would have started him on the right over Oscar and Pedro

But I still understand the coach. Players like Hidden Ikedia are expected to live up to moments like this and not disappear like smoke

You cant really be comfortable benching a player like Hazard because one of those monkey post drimmble fit go through

but the nucca was just too useless on that day

nonsoroyalty:
Samuel Eto’o:
"I have always done well, the only
explanation is that perhaps the black men in
that club (Real Madrid) were not loved.”
"I was not quiet. When I was 16 and I was
in the Real Madrid cantera nobody respected
me. My comrades, even, I do not even
greeted." “They (at the Real Madrid
academy) treated me like I was the last to
arrive, despite the many goals I marked it."

I hate this racism stuff that Etoo always raise everytime

In Barca he said it was racism that made him sold, In Madrid it was racism too

Pepe is black, Marcelo Madrid vice captain is black, Varane is black, Danilo is black Casemiro is black

Spy360:
OOoo!

The Ram has brought out his pipi again to self service.

Please take your pipi to Manure United thread, na dem cause am.

ABEG O!

Na Man Utd cause wetin?

Shey na Man Utd cause Spurs to lose woefully or na dem cause Chelsea to lose home and away or na Man utd go make Arsenal lose home and away?

nateevs:
I am with Ibime on this one and even with the goal in question and everyone knows I am not a Mikel hater. I am just being objective on this one.

Watch how Mikel slowly recovers from marking Verratti. The problem was that he didn't spot the danger and realise that Di Maria, at the very least, had free 10 yards to run at the back four. With a little more verve, defensive tactical awareness, decisiveness and pace (which is the koko here) Mikel, truly could have zeroed out the space in front of Di Maria, despite being in front of Verratti only moments ago.

This is not to say other players do not share in the blame but you can see how that move develops and how Mikel could easily have made the choice difficult for DM.

The problem here is that, I have seen that slow recovery happen 100s of times before and consequently, it is not wrong to criticise Mikel in this instance, again.

Mikel was marking Verrati. There were only 4 PSG players in your half and 8 Chelsea players. What were the other 8 doing while Mikel was marking Verrati?

Di Maria went towards Rahman and still roamed midfield and the other players were doing what exactly?

When Di Maria played the pass Cavani was with Chelsea 4 defenders who were all glued to the ground or were they waiting for Mikel to also go and chase Cavani too?

Every instance Mikel was marking someone, who were the other players marking?

Ibime:
You started this conversation telling us there was no overload in midfield and we lost solely because our sttrikers fluffed chances.

Now you've spent your last few posts telling us that we were overloaded all over the park and Mikel is having to cover too much.

sleekdot:
Ibime could it be that Mikel was paying attention to the black DM in PSG

His name skipped me

WHile expecting Willian to track Rabiot

PSG played 3 DM yesterday you cant expect Mikel alone to track all of them

This was my first post on this topic

Which is it?

BTW, is 7 seconds too much to ask for a central midfielder to cover a 5 metre space? Mikel knew Di Maria was his man and accepted the responsibility. 7 seconds later he is still 5 metres away. Was Di Maria sprinting?

In 7 seconds most players can run from box to box, but Mikel the escorter cannot cover 5 metre space to a player who isnt even running.

Why should Mikel be the one to track Verrati and also in 7 seconds also be challenging Di Maria, what are the job of the other 7 people on the team?

Ibime:
Mikel left Veratti and started tracking Di Maria from 6:33.

Di Maria played his pass at 6:40.

7 second recovery run and he jogged 15 yards.

He is still recovering now. Infact he needs 1 full minute to transition from one phase of play to another.

They don't call him Mikel Slowbi for nothing.

Mikel was the one on Verratti, he is also supposed to be the one on DiMaria 7 seconds later. What exactly is the job of the other 9 teammates?

Watching the 2nd goal yesterday sef. A pass came from the left, towards Rabiot, Mikel went towards Rabiot but Rabiot missed so the ball went to Motta. Mikel had to change direction from chasing Rabiot to chasing Motta and before he could get to Motta the pass had already een released

Thats why I asked what is the job of the other players on the field if Mikel is responsible for chasing everyone and the other players are just expected to hang out on the field

This is the extended highlights go to 6:25 and start from there

Now explain How Mikel is supposed to fly from marking Verrati on the left to the DM position


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56eqNi69nhU

Ibime:
Mikel is always "recovering".

Even if 3 seconds has passed, Mikel would still be recovering.

He runs like recovering patient.

NGolo Kante or Javi Martinez would have made that ball easily.

In that move leading to the second goal Di maria and Verati were on the left side with Mikel marking them

Di maria dropped towards Baba Rahman while Mikel stayed with Verrati.

Verrati passed to Zlatan

So how do you expect Mikel to mark Verrati and in a split second leave Verrati and already be in front of the back 4

Is Mikel the only person on the field or the rest are just there to watch

Ibime:
Thanks for the screen grab which highlights the highway that Mikel gave Di Maria to turn, lift his head and pick his man under zero pressure.

Now Focus. I'm talking about Mikels incompetence here, not Ivanovic. Ivas incompetence does not excuse Mikels.

If that is Javi Martinez or Ngolo Kante, does Di Maria even get opportunity to trap that ball? Therein lies ypur answer

Mikel was recovering from the left while Di Maria was already checking into the middle with no one following his run

Before Mikel could get into Position DiMaria already trapped the ball and threw the pass

If Javi Martinez or Kante was on the left wing while DiMaria ran to the middle their teammates would have stepped in to cover for them since they know neither Martinez nor Kante is a omnipresent to be everywhere all the time

PSG had 4 players, CHelsea had 8 players plus keeper 9. thats more than enough to do 2 Chelsea players per PSG player but you ignore the other 7 players and chose to focus on Mikel

Ibime:
Focus. I'm talking about Mikels incompetence here, not Iva and Cahill.

If that is Javi Martinez or Ngolo Kante, does Di Maria even get opportunity to trap that ball?

If that was Vidal and not Fabregas marking Zlatan would he have the room to do what he did?

If that was Terry, Cole or Carvalho in defence instead of those 3 would they leave Cavani(who was the only PSG player in attack to run free like that

There are so much blame to go around but because of your vendetta you just see Mikel in everything wrong with Chelsea

How come Chelsea cant stop losing earlier in the season despite Mikel not playing

This is a screen grab of the time the pass was released and you honestly think theres no one who deserve the blame other than Mikel

Your 4 defenders couldnt track the run of Cavani yet na Mikel you go blame

PSG had 4 players, CHelsea had 8 players plus keeper 9. thats more than enough to do 2 Chelsea players per PSG player but you ignore the other 7 players and chose to focus on Mikel

Ibime:
Fabregas was on Ibra. That is the difference. Ibra had to do a skill to buy 3 yards from Fabregas.

What did Di Maria have to do to get 5 yards from Mikel? Mikel was busy running in treacle.

If that is Javi Martinez or Ngolo Kante, does Di Maria even get opportunity to trap that ball? Nonsense!

Thank God you noticed Baba passed Di Maria on to Mikel. He did the right thing. It is not Babas job to follow Di Maria into central midfield anymore than it is Mikels job to follow Blaise Matuidi into his own half.

Mikel was just coming from the left wing. Di maria was on the right and drifted to the middle

What were Ivanovic and Cahill looking at that Cavani made a run beside them and they were caught flat footed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdNSe2XW8AAkitx.jpg

That was the heat map from the first half showing Spurs only got close to the dortmund box 3 times

edoyad:
Dortmund are currently thrashing Spurs meaning ramdeuter will be singing about EPL for two weeks ?

Spy360:
NL would be sentenced to two weeks of boringness. Ramdeuter would start self servicing again.
O0ooo!

2 weeks of the awesomeness of the Bundesliga

Dortmund 2nd placed in Buli, Spurs 2nd place in EPL we don see the result which shows the EPL is very useless

I hope we have a game between bayern and Leicester City the 2 table toppers

Ibime:
In Paris:
1st goal - Lucas breezes past Mikel leading him to foul. Ibra scores
Now watch the 2nd goal. See how Di Maria drops 2 yards from the snail Mikel, and the snail gives him 3 seconds to chill, lift his head and play in Cavani for the 2nd goal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLhNrGapXWg
All 4 goals in this tie has his incompetence involved in it.
Can you imagine Di Maria having such leisure on the edge of our box with any decent DM marking him?

2nd goal that you posted here

Mikel was just coming back from the left side of the field while Fabregas that was supposed to stay on Zlatan was easily dispatched

Baba rahman was tracking Dimaria but also dropped off

Is it that other 9 players have no responsibility on the field and everything revolves round Mikel?

When Mikel was not playing earlier in the season how many games were you winning

Ibime both legs when the scores was level, Chelsea had better chances to score but didnt take them

Trapp made a double save just before Zlatan scored

and in the 1st leg several of your attackers fluffed their lines when through on goal

Ibime:
Thats why I said I wish the clip started 2 seconds earlier.

Matuidi is the attacking midfielder. No such thing was happening.

If that is the case and Matuidi started a run from his own half, do you expect Mikel to be within 20 yards of him by the time Matuidi enters Chelsea box? He no get sense?

How can you claim to be playing 4-2-3-1 and the DM expects the No10 to be the last man in midfield chasing someone from behind?

DM is a position on the pitch, not a detail to follow the opposing attacking midfielder into his own half.

I don't know of Makelele finding himself in such a position. Have you seen Maka following Iniesta into his own half before?

You should always run into the DM if you run in a straight line from the halfway line, unless it's a counterattack.

Every team member in Chelsea is expected to do their part

Mikel cant just sit down in the DM area of the field and not track his man. So what happens when AM goes to the wing to double team the full back?

Should Mikel just sit down in his DM position on the pitch and act like it doesnt concern him?

The space doesnt hurt teams its when players occupy the space that it hurt. Thats why a defender can play a high line because no opponent is occupying the space

Ibime could it be that Mikel was paying attention to the black DM in PSG

His name skipped me

WHile expecting Willian to track Rabiot

PSG played 3 DM yesterday you cant expect Mikel alone to track all of them

hensben:
Still doesn't change my observation about B-league.

It doesnt have to change anything results are there to show. I can believe Elche is better than barcelona but no one argues with result

The second placed Bundesliga team just completed a demolition job on the second placed EPL team

I would love to see Bayern play Leicester since both are table toppers