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lagonovo:
No we have been consistent in identifying the pattern

Because you deg work for CIA plus FBI plus CID 🤡

lagonovo:
You actually sounded more like a clown from Agulu or Nnewi and not a Yorubaman from Lagos since you clearly don't know that Alaafin was never called Igbakeji Orisa and to make matters worse you are oblivious of the fact that ekeji refers to companion or equal in a specific linguistic context

Alaafin is called Ikeji, Ekeji orisha. While the Ooni is the Oorisha.
You must be smoking Canadian loud.

lagonovo:
Are you sure you are not the same person in three or four characters to push your agenda, our eyes have seen lots in the past on Nairaland o so no vex

This is a new one
We have gone from we are from Osun
To we are being paid
To we are same monika

I wonder what would be next

Adexxi:
Ooh! I saw it, I just laughed it off right here in my bedroom
Infact this Oyos don accuse another moniker of being from osun state because he was correcting them. They don't have any fact to backup their claim. Since I was born, I've seen anywhere a child being superior to his father

We yorubas are one and we have a single source. The Oyo can't distort this
Still waiting for those to come tell us how Alaafin Sango gave birth to all Yoruba race

Sango Olukoso oooo

lagonovo:
That is not the issue being discussed. Everybody migrated from somewhere.

I know my ancestry and it's from ife, a prince from Ife for that matter.

lagonovo:
Yes people get paid and it appears that accusation actually hit home

How much would you pay me? 10,000 dollars

Adexxi:
Pls sir, I don't know what to tell you again because you wrote nothing but all I have said in the past. We are here to set the record straight to the Oyos that that can't force the self made history on we other yorubas throats. We yorubas sabi our history and one source and we have a single source

Even Oyos won't tell history without mentioning Ife, where will they say they came from

The Aworis that are majorly the owners of Lagos and some parts of Ogun always find their way to Ife. The progenitor of the Awori is an Ife prince called Ogunfunminire. The Alaafin is not recognized. The Oba of Benin is even more respected on the Lagos island.

Adexxi:
Where is the evidence that we were paid. You guy brought out that half been buried several years today and we try to correct you guys and set the record straight, only for you start screaming that we are paid

History can only be distorted but can't be changed, every right think Yoruba know our history and we won't allow Oyos to force their self made history down our throats

Oyo empire is gone for good, you people should rest

They are now accusing people of being paid when they cannot provide any backing to the rubbish they are pulling out of their arses.

salford1:
If you accuse people of doing something they never did, it's up to you to proof so now.
I will take this your reply as "you have no proof".

I was even accused of being an ife man yesterday. Me, a Lagosian, that has never passed Ogun state before. They are all bunch of clowns

maidstone:
Alaafin is truly the no1

It was Awolowo who started promoting Ooni because of his quarrel with the Oyo Kingdom. People should read about the paramount position of Alaafin in Yorubaland

I'm not sure about the Abore part sha

Spilling nonsense with confidence.

zeuss:
Their crude oil and gas is runs your country.

SS Oil. Not SE or SW or NC oil.

Nonexisting1:
I know one of the names mentioned there and she is a Niger Deltan who I have heard many times claimed she was not Igbo. Why are Igbos always defending and fighting for these people who will at the end of the day deny being Igbo? Of your brother says he is not your brother, let him go fight his battles alone. To me now, everybody dey on im own.

If they said they are not igbos. Leave them be. Iol.

Ndi victims.

He has no access to phone in the Finnish detention.

Man has aged so quick.

LegendHero:
They fear Northerners like craze.

I still remember when Northern youth gave them quit notice then. Come see how them dey run everywhere dey fear. I think it’s PTSD from how Northerners treated them through history.

The pogrom of the 1960s brought brought an everlasting fear into people of SE Nigeria origin.

Everything is going to be very expensive for the average American.

I pity American farmers, a 2nd round of suicide, bankruptcy and recession is about to hit them just like the 1st round hit them during Trump's 1st term. China is one of their biggest purchase of wheat.

What a shame Ugochukwu Chukwudi.

Goodvibes007:
Ignore those kids. A Yoruba telling you ekeji means first is all you need to know that you are talking to a kid.

Thank you. I am off to tiktok to keep discussing about the coronation with my fellow historians from around the world. Cheers mate.

Amalekki:
But you can post some comical pictures taken under colonial rule as prove of superiority, you are the joker

I am not debating you, I am telling you what obtains in Oyo and the throne of the King of the largest Empire known to any Yoruba dead or alive .

Was Oyo Ile defeated and sacked by the Fulanis?
Big YES.
Out of fear of the Fulani, Oyo ran further to the south.
Oyo only gained strenghted in the 15th or 16th century up to the early 1800s.
Ibadan became the super power after. Going g by your little knowledge then the Olubadaan should be a bigger king that the Ooni, Oba of benin and the Alaafin since it was the Ibadan that stopped the Fulani at Oshogbo. The overbearing power of Ibadan further led to the Kiriji war.

This is my account below on twitter hailing the new Alaafin, but as an Historian, I dont care about feelings but facts.

Amalekki:
You are probably using your Ufe language to interpret

Igbakeji and Ekeji are two different things. Igbakeji means 2nd in command. Ekeji means EQUAL

Ekeji means second.

Amalekki:
Go to Oyo and listen to their talking drums and you will hear that clearly. Alaafin has always been called Olori Oba long before the current Ooni of Ife came with his own drama which he is entitled to, live and let live. Ooni can't come to Oyo and issue orders and Alaafin won't come to Ife and do the same. Even Oluwo has made that clear that each Oba has his own throne.

Lastly, Ooni was exiled from Ife for 13 good years by the Modakekes, so let's stop with all the exaggerations

You somehow think this is a superiority or some dick swinging contest. It is not. Yes. Ooni was sacked, just as Oyo was sacked by the fulani too and moved down to its present location from Oyo ile.
The dahomey also showed the Alaafin pepper. Same as the ibadan.

If that's what determines how senior a king is, then you must be joking.

Amalekki:
Keep wasting your time. When people call Alaafin the Olori Oba as they have been doing long before your forefathers were born, you are free to go and challenge them physically or in court. Alaafin, Olori Gbogbo Oba from time immemorial Iku Baba Yeye Alase Ekeji Orisa

The Alaafin has NEVER been called the OloriOba.
Igba keji Orisha? YES.
IKU? YES

But never the Olori Oba. it's not in his appellation. That appellation belongs to The Ooni of Ife. The only Oba in the SW called the Olori Oba is the Ooni of Ife.

Thanks for confirming that the Alaafin is ikeji Orisa.

While the Ooni is the Orisha himself.

Goodvibes007:
I don't think i have read any more nonsense this year with this hogwash you put up. The staff of Oranmiyan is in ufe and not in Oyo.

Oranmiyan is still being worshiped in Ife till date. His sons continued to remind as Ooni of Ife after him.

The Ooni is the OloriOba. He is not just an Oba, but also a deity. The Alaafin is the igbakeji Orisha meaning he is the 2nd to the deity.

See the 2nd source. It called Oranmiyan A prince. It is also common knowledge that Oranmiyan became a King in Ife. He chose Ife over Oyo that he established later. Even the ifa corpus confirms the kingship of the Ooni.

Last slide: From Grok

According to Grok,

The number of his reign among the Oonis varies in different lists; some traditions place him as the fourth Ooni, while others, such as the catalog at the Ooni's Palace in Ife, list him as the sixth. Regardless of the precise numbering, his kingship in Ife is affirmed by the commemorative Staff of Oranmiyan (Opa Oranmiyan), a granite obelisk erected in his honor at Mopa, Ile-Ife, symbolizing his legacy and final resting place.

Thus, while the specifics of his rule may differ across sources, the consensus in Yoruba history is that Oranmiyan did indeed become a king of Ife, solidifying his status as a foundational figure in Yoruba monarchy.

Amalekki:
This looks more like a tacit confirmation of the position that Ooni was Abore, a spiritual leader. You don't send for an Alaafin or Oba to come and intervene in a dispute between two obscure villages. You only see the Alaafin in public just three times in a year in those days. That job is traditionally for the Abores, Oluwos (Olori Awo), Ilaris etc, not the king. If unresolved, they have to come to the palace for resolution.

Yes, let us just focus on the coronation of the Alaafin.

The alaafin stayed outside on the the Ooni's journey to Ife. Like I said earlier, the Oba of Benin stool is greater than that of the Alaafin. If the Alaafin is not senior to the Oba of Benin, how can it be senior to that of Ife (Ufe)?

It's impossible. There was ife before, Benin (not igodomigodo), and there was Benin before Oyo. Why did Oranmiyan return to Ife to become an Ooni if the seat of Oyo was greater?

That dude raised lots of questions that you people could not answer.

Owon:
Ọdẹ
The good thing is that I'm not from Ọyọ, but I'm 100 % sure you're from Ọsun state.
All these rubbish you're quote or fabricated nonsense can't change history and fact.
I'm sure according to your low thinking, Rv Samuel's writing about the Ọyọ empire that stretched out of Nigeria is even a lie

I am from Lagos.

When low IQ basterds have been defeated with superior arguments with proof, they resort to insult.

This is my account below on twitter hailing the new Alaafin, but as an Historian, I dont care about feelings but facts.

Bump.

Owon:
Alaafin is the greatest king in entire Nigeria by ranking. You can argue with your keyboard if you don't agree.

The position of Ọọni of ifẹ was never meant to be a king...

From history, Ọọni was just an ABỌRẸ to the Alaafin of Ọyọ. What we can call coup turn Ọọni from ABỌRẸ to a king.

Ọyọ is the centre and heart of the entire yoruba race. The normal Yoruba language is written in Ọyọ language.

You are quoting Rev Samuel Johnson's book which is full of errors and oyocentric since Johnson himself is from Oyo.

Ooni, the Oghane, is the one sat on the throne of Oduduwa and wears the ancient Ade Aare (Oduduwa'ss crown).

By ranking of seniority, the Oba of Benin is older than the Alaafin. Oranmiyan left Ife to establish Benin with Oduduwa on the throne of Ife. After leaving Eweka 1 in Benin, he headed to Oyo and left Ajaka there.

Oranmiyan returned to Ife to drive Obalufon away and reclaim the throne of father, Oduduwa.

There is a reason, the last two Oba of Benin went to Ife Immediately after their coronation, and not Oyo. Oyo is a younger brother to Benin. The oba of benin also wrote a letter to the Ooni in the 1930s calling the Ooni his father. There is a reason the letter was not sent to the Alaafin, but the Ooni.

The colonial master also witnessed the Ooni's superiority when they called for him to come to Lagos to settle the dispute between the Akarigbo and the Elepe in the 1900s on whether the Elepe had a right to wear a Ade (Crown). There was a reason they sent for the Ooni and not the Alaafin.

Please stop distorting history and let us focus on the coronation of the Alaafin Oyo.

IjeBos:
Any American should be freaking out that US is currently being run by incompetent people.
Trump's biggest policy that has wiped out trillions of US wealth was predicated on Bullshit Calculations.

It's even simpler than that actually.

Sensitivity of consumers to higher prices = 4.
How likely are prices to increase = 0.25

15 NATIONS MOST INDEBTED TO IMF — 02 APR 2025

1 Argentina — $31.10 billion
2 Ukraine — $10.86 billion
3 Egypt — $8,63 billion
4 Ecuador — $6.43 billion
5 Pakistan — $6.23 billion
6 Kenya — $3.02 billion
7 Angola — $2.84 billion
8 Cote d'Ivoire — $2.68 billion
9 Ghana — $2.48 billion
10 Bangladesh — 2.00 billion
11 Costa Rica — $1.88 billion
12 Congo DR — 1.79 billion
13 Sri Lanka — 1.52 billion
14 Jordan — $1.49 billion
15 Ethiopia — $1.46 billion

Source: IMF

aribisala0:
I do not forget the debt. It was not relevant to the point I was making which was very long already
America does not BORROW TO IMPORT and this has nothing to do with Debt it is about trade
It is a TAX ON AMERICANS
Long story short American debt is totally irrelevant to the discussion and tariffs will simply force the world to rethink the use of the US dollar
Without the dollar the US cannot consume as much as it does which is the fundamental point you have failed to grasp
What Trump WANTS and reality is very different

Is he going to force the production of Bananas and coffee to America?

There are a whole list of product that CANNOT be made in America and many are such low value items that will be uneconomic to make at American wages e,g Tshirts or jeans. NOT EVERYTHING can be made in America and not every nation can afford to buy from America so a more selective use of tariffs would make more sense

Regarding high value products Those countries that make them e.g China with Electric cars are in a position to retaliate.

The idea that tariffs will move manufacturing to the US is really quite childish

Building a factory for the cost of $10 billion is a major decision for any business and they won't make such a decision when dealing with an unpredictable narcissist like Trump

Especially when they have invested billions of dollars in another country.

We are beating you, but do not cry during the beating