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Blackfire:
meaning....

Ha Mim (1) The revelation of this Book is from Allah, Exalted in Power, Full of Knowledge,- (2) Who forgiveth sin, accepteth repentance, is strict in punishment, and hath a long reach (in all things). there is no god but He: to Him is the final goal. (3) None can dispute about the Signs of Allah but the Unbelievers. Let not, then, their strutting about through the land deceive thee! (4)

Amberon:
who is "we"??

We as used here is plural of respect and Majestic royalty of Allah over the universe, as it used by the Hausa Kingdom (Mu ne) I.e We are even it Just one king talking, Yoruba uses plural of respect, English kings uses this and even the Bible uses this same language.

Blackfire:
let me start by dealing with u from the first verse u quoted, the correct translation:
and those who believe in Allah(Muslims) are HARD/terror against the kaffri(Christians,jews)..
Honestly do u think mohamed is still not mad or possessed? .
Now imagine in that same verse u replace Muslims with Christian/jews in that verse.
Those(Christians/jews) who believe in yahweh are Hard against the kaffri(Muslims)..

Seriously do u still think mohamed is not mad or possessed?

*guy stop using evasive manourval, u will only wound yourself*

Quran 48: While the Unbelievers got up in their hearts heat and cant - the heat and cant of ignorance,- Allah sent down His Tranquillity to his Messenger and to the Believers, and made them stick close to the command of self-restraint; and well were they entitled to it and worthy of it. And Allah has full knowledge of all things. (26)

Blackfire:
i ask u questions ... And the only thing u can do is turn yourself to ' omo ile kewu'.. Ok o .

Read my questions again and again , and answer me if u can.

Quran 48: Muhammad is the messenger of Allah; and those who are with him are strong against Unbelievers, (but) compassionate amongst each other. Thou wilt see them bow and prostrate themselves (in prayer), seeking Grace from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. On their faces are their marks, (being) the traces of their prostration. This is their similitude in the Taurat; and their similitude in the Gospel is: like a seed which sends forth its blade, then makes it strong; it then becomes thick, and it stands on its own stem, (filling) the sowers with wonder and delight. As a result, it fills the Unbelievers with rage at them. Allah has promised those among them who believe and do righteous deeds forgiveness, and a great Reward. (29)

Blackfire:
.... Was mohamed not possessed? Should we go into the satanic verses? A man that hid himself inside cave , sees ghost, hear bell ringing ... And once confessed he wants to commit suicide, is he not mad or possessed? ...
A man who only him receive instruction from his altered ego Allah to suit his will and caprises, that even aisha have say 'Allah give u revelation to suit your own will'... Is that man not mad or possessed? .

A man that is still in hell awaiting judgement, and u a reasonable person still follow and hope on this man, are u not mad or possessed?.

We all know that mohamed father was a pagan, even his protective uncle.. And what was the name of mohamed's father... abdulallah (Allah's slave).

So who is this Allah that mohamed is introducing again? A new one or the old one?

Before u answer me are u a shite or Sunni or ahmadiyyas or sufi or alawites or Baha'i or ...... ?

Shkr.

Quran 2: Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). (255)

ifenes:
The book of Genesis of the bible, Sumerian tablet of creation and the Quran originated from the same place. I'm not surprised to see they all sound the same. Only that the Sumerian Tablet was much older than the other 2. Obviously they are all saying the same thing.

Don't forget the Mayans, The Inkas, Yorubas, Dogans said the same thing about visitors coming to genetically manipulated species on this planet. You mentioned " Sperm" lol. Yahweh never claimed to have used Sperm. Somehow these stories all sound alike. Let us make man in our image!

No the book of Genesis was suppose to be a dream of whom ever wrote it not word of God nor Jesus, though all real books of God(Injil, Zebur, Taoret) came from same Origin i.e God through prophet of each generation at time interval, but as passage of time other books were manipulated and corrupted hence the need for the last and final book from God which act as manuscript for humankind and jinkind and God then took upon Himself to protect this Last one The Qur'an from interpolation like other books.


Qur'an 21: Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe? (30) And We have set on the earth mountains standing firm, lest it should shake with them, and We have made therein broad highways (between mountains) for them to pass through: that they may receive Guidance. (31) And We have made the heavens as a canopy well guarded: yet do they turn away from the Signs which these things (point to)! (32) It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (the celestial bodies) swim along, each in its rounded course. (33) We granted not to any man before thee permanent life (here): if then thou shouldst die, would they live permanently? (34) Every soul shall have a taste of death: and We test you by evil and by good by way of trial. to Us must ye return. (35)

promise101:
And remember, jesus said that the spirit shal DWELL in us!

Can mohammed who was a peadophilic and a sex pervert human being dwell in us? Is he a spirit?

You know, the mentality of these muslims are so deranged, that's why they don't question so maby things, yet dey claim to be logical

do you volunteer to help you brother out of this? then here is my query; Spirit is an English word and Jesus never no English, so what was the original word used by Bible of Greek origin or the Aramaic bible?

ifenes:
It's says "We" not "I". Is Allah a group of people genetically alternating a beast/ human? I think you are mistaking Extratterstrials with Allah here. This is some science/ laboratory stuff going on in the passage you quoted from.

I need to get me a Quran. This is some genetic stuff!

If Hausa royal man wont to speak he uses plural of royalty (Mu Ne i.e We are) even his is just One king, even the English kings and Queen uses WE as sign of royalty and Yoruba also have the same and this across all other languages even when is just one person talking, it s language of royal confidence of Allah over all what He created.

that was book of over 1400 years ago without lab equipment for testing, surely you need a Qur'an and I could help with that.

analice107:
Does that prove that Allah is not Satan? Was allahh not one of the 360 idols inside the Ka'aba whose Muhammed's progenitors where chief priests to?
Allahh is Satan trust me. Just see his mode of operation. Bloodshed. Pls take a break.

Quran23; It is He Who has created for you (the faculties of) hearing, sight, feeling and understanding: little thanks it is ye give! (78) And He has multiplied you through the earth, and to Him shall ye be gathered back. (79) It is He Who gives life and death, and to Him (is due) the alternation of Night and Day: will ye not then understand? (80)

ifenes:
This is exactly what the Chrustians think of their god. So tell me,who is wrong or right? The biggest trap a man can find himself is to be ruled by a book. Look at how you big up Allah! I don't think you ever big up yourself this way. You are what you think you are! You think Allah has the ultimate knowledge? You thought wrong my brother. Someone wrote that book.

Quran Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay); (12) Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed; (13) Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be Allah, the best to create! (14) After that, at length ye will die (15) Again, on the Day of Judgment, will ye be raised up. (16)

analice107:
Allahh is Satan and Muhammed was his slave.

Quran 15: We did send messengers before thee amongst the religious sects of old: (10) But never came a messenger to them but they mocked him. (11)

Blackfire:
don't mind those Christians they don't know they can find mohamed in there books...
@annunaki, gimakon, truthhurt1,ari3l am sorry i will tell the truth today..

U can find it in the book of ABOUT TO BE MAD chapter 419 vs 419..


If u need more verses let me know.

*winks*

Quran 15: A. L. R. These are the Ayats of Revelation,- of a Qur'an that makes things clear. (1) Again and again will those who disbelieve, wish that they had bowed (to Allah's will) in Islam. (2) Leave them alone, to enjoy (the good things of this life) and to please themselves: let (false) hope amuse them: soon will knowledge (undeceive them). (3) Never did We destroy a population that had not a term decreed and assigned beforehand. (4) Neither can a people anticipate its term, nor delay it. (5) They say: "O thou to whom the Message is being revealed! truly thou art mad (or possessed)! (6)

ifenes:
You have no proof allah is real. allah is within human knowledge.

Quran2: Allah! There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory). (255)

truthmans2012:
Liar !!!

How do you love him ?

When last did you make mention of him ?

Is it not Muhammad rasul Lilah you shout from morning till night ?

that is not the topic, let face it please, but nevertheless I shall not be a Muslim if i don't Love Jesus Christ, that is what belong to Jesus that Allah through Muhammad SAW asked me to give Him as prophesied by the Jesus ASW.

Quran 19; Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East. (16) She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. (17) She said: "I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah." (18) He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son. (19) She said: "How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?" (20) He said: "So (it will be): Thy Lord saith, 'that is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us': It is a matter (so) decreed." (21) So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place. (22) And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: She cried (in her anguish): "Ah! would that I had died before this! would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!" (23)

truthmans2012:
Jesus is the way the TRUTH and the life ....(John 14:6).

Quran 19:19 Yusufali] He said: "Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son The holy son is Jesus.

You must be ignorant to say the lies of Christ.

i did not write the Bible but you did and so you said he laid and i just quoted your book, Jesus was among the greatest prophet of all time and we love Him more than you do. less i forget my questions begging for answer.

ifenes:
The Vedas said Krishna is God too. Ifa claimed Olodumare is God,so do Christians claim Jesus and Yahweh are gods. Why do you think the Quran is right?

And why "Him"? A male deity?

All these gods you mentioned let put them in to test.
God according to the knowledge of human vast reasoning and according to books of generations and beliefs should;
1 have no father
2. nor mother
3. should be one
4. should be absolute
5. should feed all and fed not
6. no image
etc now if ANY of this gods fit in all this basic description then that is God.

truthmans2012:
Trash !!!

Even after you have seen that Muhammad was false.

Look at the statement from Jesus who you are lying that called Muhammad Spirit:


Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Jesus said it is the Gospel that should be preached till the end of the world, why would God still send Muhammad to bring islam? Islam is.from the Devil and Muhammad is the Devil's prophet. Succinct !!!

Now if you are back on this let take it from were you stop and don't run about and don't forget the lies of Christ.

ifenes:
What does allah look like?

Quran112: Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; (1) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; (2) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; (3) And there is none like unto Him. (4)

truthmans2012:
I have no time for frivolous argument. You will do well if you can answer the long standing unanswered question:

Quran 22:52 YusufAli] Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom.

The above quranic verse was revealed following Satan casting some words into Muhammad's mouth (the Satanic Verses). Then Allah had to console Muhammad after his remorse for the error and Allah said ''there was no messenger he had sent that Satan didn't attemt to put words into their mouth but he usually cancelled such words.

My question is: Which of the past prophets received Satan's words like Muhammad that were cancelled?

I will take this as sign of distress and act of coward. but again with time you shall know that Allah is One and Muhammad is His Messenger, but the soon the better.

truthmans2012:
I have established my points. Muhammad was a false prophet. Moses couldn't have prophesied the coming of a false prophet.

answer my questions here i was not in that conversation

truthmans2012:
smoy



Tell me of the coming of any prophet who the Bible referred to as Spirit.

you mean other ones apart from Muhammad? as in John16.? and again what was the original word for Spirit from the Greek Bible since English was translated version.

truthmans2012:
Of what importance is the life of a tree, when Muhammad was committing genocide. You don't see anything wrong with Muhammad beheading people like Book Haram and ISIL, you are talking of Jesus cursing a tree, Smh !!!

Besides, how does cursing amount to telling lies? Very lame post of yours.

you wont me to tell you that jesus laid from your Bible then read John7:8-9 and then come back and tell me the Lie from your Lord,

truthmans2012:
Muhammad was not the brother of the Israelites. They were not from the same mother. You can at best call him half-brother. Ishmael's mother was a slave who was sent out of Abraham's house with him by God's permission. If God had wanted him as a prophet, He wouldn't have cast him out of Abraham's house.

both were all promised to make a great nation you remember? and Ishmael was recognized as the son of Abraham or you have Scripture that said son of slave can not be Prophet?

truthmans2012:
Was Muhammad a Spirit ?

Do human spirit referred to in capital "s" ?

Jesus did not speak English, therefore, bring fort the Gospel according to Jesus Christ so we can now identified Spirit from spirit.

truthmans2012:
Muhammad encouraged lie telling, is that the Spirit of Truth ? We read of Muhammad telling lies to deceive, is that the Spirit of Truth?

Bukhari (52:269) - "The Prophet said, 'War is deceit.'" The context of this is thought to be the murder of Usayr ibn Zarim and his thirty unarmed men by Muhammad's men after he "guaranteed" them safe passage.

Bukhari (49:857) - "He who makes peace between the people[b] by inventing good information or saying good things, is not a liar."[/b] Lying is permitted when the end justifies the means.

Bukhari (84:64-65) - Speaking from a position of power at the time, Ali confirms that lying is permitted in order to deceive an "enemy."

The Spirit of Truth is the Holy Spirit that descended on the disciples on the Day of Pentecost. He is still descending on Christ believers till today.

Why are you bitter, you also forgot Jesus and the caused tree ? and even coursed the generation of the Israelite, you forgot? read your bible pls

truthmans2012:
This passage is self explanatory. " from among their own people" This was an address to the Israelites by Moses when he was leading them to Cannan. Moses faced the Israelites and prophesied to them that God would raise a prophet like him among their own people. It was the Israelites Moses was
prophesying to and not Arabians. Muhammad's race was not among the people to whom Moses prophesied.

From your brethren according to the bible, Ishmael and Isac were among geology of his brotherhood. Moreover, who is then the one like Moses if not Muhammad SAW

For God has taken it upon Himself to show the unbelievers from the horizons and even from them self that Allah is the Creator, Muhammad is seal of Prophet hood, Qur'an is guardian and Islam is the way. its left for you either to accept or reject but surely you shall face the consequence of your action on the day of reckoning.

ifenes:
Allah the E.T?

what z dat?

orisa37:
I believe in God. The Name of my God is Nijar, God of Nigeria; Olorun Olodumare in Yoruba language. Jesus Christ in English language. Jesus means Anointed. Christ means Savior.

Quran 5: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For Allah hath power over all things." (17)

Preciousgirl:
My God is called Jesus Christ

Quran 6:That was the reasoning about Us, which We gave to Abraham (to use) against his people: We raise whom We will, degree after degree: for thy Lord is full of wisdom and knowledge. (83) We gave him Isaac and Jacob: all (three) guided: and before him, We guided Noah, and among his progeny, David, Solomon, Job, Joseph, Moses, and Aaron: thus do We reward those who do good: (84) And Zakariya and John, and Jesus and Elias: all in the ranks of the righteous: (85) And Isma'il and Elisha, and Jonas, and Lot: and to all We gave favour above the nations: (86) (To them) and to their fathers, and progeny and brethren: We chose them, and we guided them to a straight way. (87) This is the guidance of Allah: He giveth that guidance to whom He pleaseth, of His worshippers. If they were to join other gods with Him, all that they did would be vain for them. (88)

urahara:
Oh.its another brainwashed mohammedan

Quran6: For every message is a limit of time, and soon shall ye know it." (67)

HardMirror:
What are u saying

Quran 6 It is He who doth take your souls by night, and hath knowledge of all that ye have done by day: by day doth He raise you up again; that a term appointed be fulfilled; In the end unto Him will be your return; then will He show you the truth of all that ye did. (60) He is the irresistible, (watching) from above over His worshippers, and He sets guardians over you. At length, when death approaches one of you, Our angels take his soul, and they never fail in their duty. (61)

HardMirror:
Yes o. Let's talk about everything and anything.

Let me bell the cat.

I remember the day I told my favorite uncle I was an atheist damn! The look on his face!
He was perplexed.
"Have you joined ogboni?" He asked
" No sir, I don't believe in god" I answered.
He kept quiet for some time.
"Life could be unfair but don't stop believing in god" he continued with deep concern and a touch of confusion still in his voice.

Lol

It's funny Nigerians find it hard to believe people can live without believing in god

Quran 6: Say: "Think ye, if Allah took away your hearing and your sight, and sealed up your hearts, who - a god other than Allah - could restore them to you?" See how We explain the signs by various (symbols); yet they turn aside. (46) Say: "Think ye, if the punishment of Allah comes to you, whether suddenly or openly, will any be destroyed except those who do wrong? (47) We send the messengers only to give good news and to warn: so those who believe and mend (their lives),- upon them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. (48) But those who reject our signs,- them shall punishment touch, for that they ceased not from transgressing. (49)

these are more, especially for the brother that get confused with position of God and Jesus and mostly give glory of Almighty God to Jesus the prophet.

John 17: 3 This is eternal life: to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you sent. 4 I have glorified you on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 Now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I shared with you before the world was created.

6 “I have revealed your name to the people you gave me from this world. They were yours and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 This is because I gave them the words that you gave me, and they received them. They truly understood that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.

9 “I’m praying for them. I’m not praying for the world but for those you gave me, because they are yours.................



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Matt 5: 19 Therefore, whoever ignores one of the least of these commands and teaches others to do the same will be called the lowest in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever keeps these commands and teaches people to keep them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Quran 6: Who doth more wrong than he who inventeth a lie against Allah or rejecteth His signs? But verily the wrong-doers never shall prosper. (21) One day shall We gather them all together: We shall say to those who ascribed partners (to Us): "Where are the partners whom ye (invented and) talked about?" (22) There will then be (left) no subterfuge for them but to say: "By Allah our Lord, we were not those who joined gods with Allah." (23) Behold! how they lie against their own souls! But the (lie) which they invented will leave them in the lurch. (24