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mangood74:
you need a saviour and saviour is JESUS CHRIST
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I know u will believe and preach this same wonderfull saviour

tackle the topic bros

even the angel said he was alive Luke 24:24

Jesus prayed against death and he was answered Hebrew5:7

Ghost has no flesh and bone Luke 24:39

He was Alive throughout the sega of the cross.

1 corinthians 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

My query is these: the guards were protecting the entrance of the tomb where Jesus body was laying after brought down from the cross to prevent the body of Jesus from been stolen dead or alive by his love ones

My Questioned; then why bribing the guards by the same authority and why should the guards lie that his body has been stolon (is this logical) is that not his primary assignment?

if the job of the authority guards of the Israelite was to protect the tomb from stealing the body of Jesus and the body could not be found on the Sunday morning then we should know that the guard are to be seriously dealt with for negligent of duty

but on the contrary, there were rewarded by bribing them, to lie that what? (something must be fishing)

My findings:from the bible
1.that Jesus can not die on cross just for 3hrs(bones of the others were broken because they were not dead yet, Jesus was never broken, why?)
2.that Jesus was in comma lay in the tomb (he was well beating, tired and then fainted and bible said he gave up spirit matt 27:50)
3.that he regain his conciseness and roll the stone on the entrance(spirit dose not need door to the tomb entrance.why rolled back the stone?)
4.that the guard were drunk and sleep off (there was wine for all including Jesus while on cross matt 27:34 & 48)
5.that he disguise and flee the scene to become a Gardner (ghost disguised! why?)
6.that the guard were later bribed to lie that Jesus has became ghost and escaped(resurrected) because that is the only way the guards and town chiefs could be vindicated (matt 28:12-15)

Note that they can only lie to defend themselves not to implicate themselves from the highest authority of the land, biblical claims were illogical.

malvisguy212:
lies, well for argument sake, let me just pretend I did not read your last statement. the questions is who are this prophet who fullfilled this covenant ?

All prophet of Allah fulfill the promise; Moses said it in Dut 18 :18 (like Moses from his brethren of extended family, this perfectly fit Muhammad SAW), Habakkuk 3:1-3, (holy one from Paran. Do you remember were Ishmael lived in Paran ? ) even Solomon mention him in His song 5:16 (they translated Muhammad to altogether lovely. Use your goggle to interpret this) Isaiah was not left behind in Isaiah 29: 12 ( He was not leaned, He said when the angel asked him to read ) Jesus has no choice but also to mention the Last of the prophets in several places, John16:5-13

malvisguy212:
Allah say in the Qur'an that, there will be prophets around to assist Muhammad in his mission, in fact Allah Even made it a covenant to this prophets.
Surah 3:81:
Allah took a COVENANT with the PROPHETS, saying: “Now that you have been given the Book and Wisdom; there will come to you a Messenger (MUHAMMAD) who will confirm that which is with you, you will have to believe in him and HELP HIM IN HIS MISSION. ” Then He said “Do you affirm this covenant and agree to take this heavy responsibility?” The PROPHETS replied, “Yes, we do affirm.” Allah said, “Very well, bear witness to this and I too bear witness with you.”

Now,A careful examination of Surah 3:81 reveals the following:
(1) Allah made a Covenant with the Prophets who lived before the time of Muhammad.
(2) These Prophets were called upon by Allah to pledge their support to a forthcoming Messenger who was to appear to them later.
(3) This coming Messenger will confirm the previous
Book of Allah which is in the possession of these
Prophets .
(4) Since this Messenger will come during the lifetime of these Prophets , they will be on hand to personally witness his confirmation of their sacred Book .

None! Not a single Prophet , from among whom Allah allegedly made the Covenant with, was present at the time of Muhammad. Yet, Allah clearly testified to the presence of these Prophets during the time of this Messenger .

This leaves us with two options:
One: Allah was wrong in his claim regarding the presence of Prophets during the time of Muhammad.
Two: The Messenger mentioned in Surah 3:81 is referring to someone other than Muhammad.

What is even more damaging for Islam is the fact that Muhammad excluded himself as the Messenger in Surah 3:81 . Why do we say that? This is because Muhammad clearly ruled out the co-existence of any
Prophets during his career as the
Messenger of Allah. Muhammad openly testified to this reality when he proclaimed the following to his early Companions.
Sahih Muslim, Book 30, Number 5835:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong to one religion and NO PROPHET WAS RAISED BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

Let us pause for a moment and let this sink in. Here we find two conflicting teachings in Islam. Allah clearly stated in Surah 3:81 that there would be Prophets to assist Muhammad. In contrast, Muhammad taught there would be none. Muslims have to choose between Allah and Muhammad. If Allah is right, then Muhammad is wrong. On the other hand, if Muhammad is right, then Allah is wrong. Either option destroys the legitimacy of Islam since this clearly demonstrates that one of them is definitely in error. As events unfolded, it became evident that there were no Prophets at the time of Muhammad. Thus, Allah was clearly in error. Man can make mistakes but not God.

[3:81]
Allah then explained His covenant with the prophets on the day of “Yes, indeed!” regarding Muhammad's
traits and description, saying: (When Allah made (His) covenant with the Prophets) He says: Allah made a
covenant with the prophets that they will show to one another the traits, description and merit of
Muhammad, ((He said): Behold that which I have given ye) when I did give you (of the Scripture and knowledge) containing details of the lawful and the unlawful. (And) you also made a covenant with your
nation that (afterward there will come unto you a messenger, confirming) by calling to Allah's divine
Oneness (that which ye possess) of Scripture. (Ye shall believe in him) He says: you shall acknowledge him
and his virtue (and ye shall help him) with the strugle against his enemies and also by expositing his trait and this help will includes you telling all the people am sending each of you to by taking this information from generation pass on to another generation till he comes, so to make it easy for him since most of the people must have held about his coming and many shall be ready to assist him in his mission for all humanity
(He said: Do ye agree?) Allah asked them whether they accepted (and will you take My burden) My
covenant (in this) what I said? (They) the prophets (answered: We agree) we accept. (He) Allah (said: Then
bear ye witness) of this. (I will be a witness with you) of this also. Allah thus made them witnesses of one
another and He Himself is a witness. And so each prophet explained this to his nation, and each prophet
made the members of his nation witnesses for each other, just as each prophet bore witness to it.


This was a covenant made before Allah stated sending each prophet to the nations. We as human also made the similar covenant to come and serve Allah alone but you may not be able to remember because it’s a test of life and death for reward with either Hell or Paradise.

Lordcenturion2:
Mr man, go and sit down with ur no one sees ur mumu inexistence God , those people u called Gods has moved back to their stars and they are there exploring another stars just the way they explore our world before our existence when our sun were still young , pray to ur head or mother nature so that your request can be granted through ur head to the mother nature because we are part of the nature, those people you are calling are an aliens whose doesn't know about our existence anymore,although they are the one that taught us magic and how to invoke some powerful spirits of the earth, but we homo sapiens can rely on ourselves because we are god as well, a time will come when our 10,000th generation will be technologically advanced,they can travel with the speed of light and then they can move away from creating robots but create another species like their own image just like the way this aliens created us, they created us as their slaves, rules us and later left because of the chaos among themselves,so, they are not on solar system anymore, they have gone forever, maybe they can visit here in distant future maybe before the sun die (this is the time the sun will expand and become red giant star and the earth will not be able to harbour any life and maybe our distant generation(the next 10 million years),would have moved or travel to another star with the speed of light which homo sapiens cannot archive right now),all this prayers that come to past is just by our head and nature not because of any names (eg jesus) that we mentioned with it, it's the power of coincidence and something that will surely happen and come to pass quickly if we pray...

Get me the referrer book of Mother Nature you are quoting from and then we can talk, or are you just on fiction motion?

KanuIsCursed:
Dear Yahweh\Allah,why did you refuse to show your face and clear me of this confusion? I really want to serve you,but you make it hard for me by refusing to show your face,and show me the way to eternity, I've tried so many way all to no avail,bible is full of poo,same with Quran, how will I know the right way,when you keep misleading us?hope you won't punish me if at end the end of the day I end up serving you in wrong way?

No One sees God. Yes the bible is contradicting and confusing but God has given human wisdom not for decoration but to be used wisely for getting to internal home of ever,
never in the Quran can you be confused or contradicted. let dialog here maturely pls.

alfredo4u:
The little I know, bible says where one or two are gathered am there with them...


Pls if you have more clarification pls do table it.....we are here to learn.....

You can as well change my perspective of worship

in Matthew 4 devil asked Jesus to worship him by means of prostration, that is the worship not singing and dancing, be blessed.

Christians are now paulist not Christ-like anymore

Quran Suratul Mulk 26:1. Blessed is He in whose hand is dominion, and He is over all things competent -
2.[He] who created death and life to test you [as to] which of you is best in deed - and He is the Exalted in Might, the Forgiving -

Islam made us to understand that Human are on excursion and adventures journey to this world from their Creator (Allah), human,who has promised their God of good conduct and absolute obedient to Him far before this life, for who ever among them follow the manual of this journey shall be adequately rewarded and who ever disobey and violate the treaty he/she sign to, shall be wall dealt with. This life is of test of good and bad but the absolute reward of your work shall be in the next world.

Meanwhile, "no pain no gain" is the language of the nature, a doctor need to cut a pregnant stomach before bringing out troubled pregnancy not because he likes to course financial, emotional and physical pain to the patient but because he loves the women and her baby to live.

Jazakallahu khair for the Ops and for the 2016 internet scholar who tend to hate what Prophet loves should note that Allah never made mistake by bringing all the Sahabas around our prophet but all for purpose in which they fulfilled now the ball is in your court to follow Allah and his messenger for you will not be asked about Abuhurairah but you will be questioned on your actions and inaction but for whoever you abuse or slender especially the chosen ones around the Prophet you will be forced to pay dearly, but then Allah is merciful when you merit such. Sallam to you all.

nurain150:
i am a Muslim, please help me check on this rullings.due to some shoot-out that has died down in our area before Friday.my mum said i should not pray jumat at the central mosque .but she can send me to the area of the mosque to get her something..........and she said i should not pray ishai prayer but she can send me out at night, should i obey her or i should obey the will of allah.

hypocrite! that was harsh word to use on your mother, be patient with her and pray over the situation for only situation you can disobey her is when she ask you to disobey Allah and this is not one of them, pray in your house till she get convinced that the situation is better because if you get her angry you get Allah punishment.

ajiboye007:
ALLAH SWEARS BY MUHAMMAD

Islam teaches that swearing by other creatures apart from Allah is shirik (associating partners with Allah)
But in Quran Allah sworn by Muhammad.

QURAN 17:72

ﻟَﻌَﻤْﺮُﻙَ ﺇِﻧَّﻬُﻢْ ﻟَﻔِﻲ ﺳَﻜْﺮَﺗِﻬِﻢْ ﻳَﻌْﻤَﻬُﻮﻥَ
By your life, [O Muhammad], indeed they were, in their intoxication, wandering blindly. {15:72}

COMMENTARY ( tafsir )BY IBN KATHIR .

muhammad
﴿ ﻟَﻌَﻤْﺮُﻙَ ﺇِﻧَّﻬُﻢْ ﻟَﻔِﻰ ﺳَﻜْﺮَﺗِﻬِﻢْ ﻳَﻌْﻤَﻬُﻮﻥَ ﴾
(Verily, by your life, in their wild intoxication, they were wandering blindly.) Allah swore by the life of His Prophet , which is an immense honor reflecting his high rank and noble status. `Amr bin Malik An-Nakari reported from Abu Al-Jawza' that Ibn `Abbas said: "Allah has never created or made or formed any soul that is dearer to him than Muhammad . I never heard that Allah swore by the life of anyone else.
But according to the previous books Allah claimed to reveal or by his authorship, GOD only swears by HIMSELF, here are the verses:

GENESIS 22:16

"This is what the LORD says: Because you have obeyed me and have not withheld even your son, your only son, I SWEAR BY MY OWN NAME.

HEBREW 6:13

When God made His promise to Abraham, SINCE HE HAD NO ONE GREATER TO SWEAR BY, HE SWORE BY HIMSELF.

HERE IS MY QUESTIONS ?

1)How can a supposed almighty God be swearing by his own creatures? Even humans do not swear by thins they create like pen, spoon, car or bicycle. No human in his right senses will swear by things inferior to him.

2).. Why did Allah commit shirik by swearing by Muhammad ?

3).. If truly Allah re
vealed previous books, why did he contradicts himself ?

4).. Did he i.e Allah forget he can only swear by himself becaus
nothing is greater than him ?

5)..Should we conclude that muhammad is greater than Allah or equal to him ?

6).. Should we say muhammad is same as Allah ? if not why did allah swear by a mere human, who has no divine attribute ?

7) How come of all Allah's prophets, it is Only Mohammad who managed to get his Allah swear by he Mohammad's name?

ITS A SERIOUS MATTER.........

Allah not only swear by Muhammad SAW but also with Time, by the star ,by the sun and moon, by humankind etc haven said that, Allah cannot commit shirk since He is Only one, shirk is committed by lower being to Allah and Allah do not report to any superior, he is Allah One and Only and can swear by any thing He wishes. No bible verse that shows contrary. but for human we swear only by Allah's name

truthmans2012:
What do you mean by 'clamping'?

But if dancing is evil, why do muslims engage in it. There are numerous islamic musicians having dancers. I know you will say "but is not in the mosque". The question is: do you do what allaah does not want outside the mosque? Is your allaah not omnipresent, who cannot see what is happening outside the mosque? Stop deceiving yourself.

don't derail, but just show us also line by line the way Christ worshiped as you did for for Islam.

Medicis:
pls kindly tell us how he worshipped in our Bible, since you know the Bible more than us.

your last talk shows your intention but for the little i will say for now is that a Christ-like should follow Jesus in totality and no innovation, Jesus never clamp or dance to worship the father that saint him.

truthmans2012:
We enter the Church, we kneel down and pray. We start praise worship, which you term dancing. Then the offering. Followed the sermon. And again prayer in line with the sermon. We say the Grace and leave. It may not be in that order in all Churches but those are the basic things we all do.

But nobody asks for the way anytime because we already know the way.

Since you don't know the way, you will miss road nau, abi?

do you wont me to take you to Sunday- school before you tell me how Jesus worship (NOT PRAYER) in your bible and not dancing and clamping.

haffaze777:
Brother pls ignore dat old man,there is no need to reply him because he will soon call u a liar,pls and pls don't reply him anymore

thanks brother, these are not for him but for any that seek the real one God.

truthmans2012:
We go to Church to worship and pray. We don't go to Church to ask for the way. We already know the way: Jesu is the Way the Truth and the Life (John 14:6).

The fact that muslims continue to ask for the way five times a day throughout their lifetime shows they do not know the way. You don't ask for something you already know. The bitter thing is that they will keep asking and will never know like their forefathers who died asking and never knew.. What a pity.

and how do you do the prayer(worship) in accordance with whom you follow, be it Jesus or Paul

truthmans2012:
You are wrong. They say allaah is the greatest not great. May be you don't know the difference.

So you mean allaah's words are not enough to guide you and you are still asking for the way? Then, what is the need for the quran?

read further in the same sentence for your answer. Again since Jesus has died for your sin why do you still go to church.

my questioned not yet answered.

beautiful way of worship, is it not? Alhamdillilah Im a Muslim. now tell us how do Jesus pray also Paul and what is the way christian worship.

for your questions Allah is great. but for human who need comparison even if Allah is not to be compare but He is the greatest among any thing your little brain can imagine of.

Allah alone guard to straight part at any particular part in time and if you relent on your prayer i.e u forget Allah then Allah will also forget you and you will be lost from the straight part and you will find yourself in the wrong part. it call persistence way of asking in order to remain focus and not to derail.

prayer is mandatory for all Muslim as prescribe by by Allah through Prophet Muhammad SAW as a continues way of seeking Allah guardian.

last note, thank for spreading Islam.

it is most ridiculous formulation of human toward is God that created him that God has other 2 that form Him, Glory be to Allah who created the earth and heaven without support and His Glory shall never be shred with any.

Exodus 4:22
22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, my first-born:

certainly 3 can never be 1 is a doctrine of Paul and not of God or Jesus.

Otobi16:
please share here your daily inspirations? If there is anything that concerns you and you feel that you need to get the right answer. Where do you usually search for it?

as a muslim inspiration and guideline are drew from Qur'an and Hadith of our prophet Muhammad SAW, no new thing except is mention in the book of the wisdom.

Quran 47: Thus have We sent by inspiration to thee an Arabic Qur'an: that thou mayest warn the Mother of Cities and all around her,- and warn (them) of the Day of Assembly, of which there is no doubt: (when) some will be in the Garden, and some in the Blazing Fire. (7)

Blackfire:
meaning....

"And preserve them from (all) ills; and any whom Thou dost preserve from ills that Day,- on them wilt Thou have bestowed Mercy indeed: and that will be truly (for them) the highest Achievement". (9) The Unbelievers will be addressed: "Greater was the aversion of Allah to you than (is) your aversion to yourselves, seeing that ye were called to the Faith and ye used to refuse." (10)

aminusanti:
thnx bro..i really wonder what type of brain dis guys are having, they don't reason even for a sec and 98% of them know nothing on this Qur'an their quoting blindly, all they do is copy n paste here expecting answers, how can you help someone that doesn't have the basic to understand what we are trying to explain here. most of my replies are to those intelligent ones that will read, analyse understand and make judgements for themselves not to dis noise makers

what surprises me is that even their so call well read professors when engaged on this matter still reason lame and amateur, little wonder Allah said he guided only whom He wills. ALHAMDULLILAH I am a Muslim.

[quote author=aminusanti post=45144127][/quote]well done Aminu, soon or later they shall come to know but better the sooner.

Amberon:
don't flatter yourself. Our God is a truine being (God the father, son and holy spirit) hence the "we".

the same English language that I speak? you're just irredeemable. And no queen addresses herself as we, unless she's suffering from multiple personality disorder , in which case she would be sent to the emergency section of any hospital ward as it is a mental illness.

from which of the bible did you get your father the son and the rest? Christ told you that or is Paul the story teller.

ifenes:
You are spot on that one. Humans tend to look for stuff to worship,but enlightened humans who know the true essence humanity and want to ascend to the state of unlimited beings,hence they stay clear of the material world or at least not ruled by it. To worship is a sign of limitation. Some humans are now aware of themselves as the temple they need to invest in,not a church or mosque. Our body,mind and spirit(as some understand it) is our primary goal

by what are you guided to this primary goal? by any book or guardian to attend this spiritual of body and mind? get me the book for the guideline.
Surely material word is accepted as illusion of this word and ruled over the deaf and dumb but accepting the Almighty over your affair is paramount and wise. Many spirit tends to control the soul and mind of human at any given time but Allah that created the man has brought down guideline in book form and has commanded that human should worship Him Alone.

ifenes:
My nephew is an IVF product. He was transferred into the belly of his mum after being mixed up in a test tube. It is already happening Who said man cannot achieve anything ? hmm

get me write dis time, let human originate a substance apart from spam and use the same to create a living been. sperm is already created by Allah so let the scientist create something unknown to this universe to form human if there are sincere.

ifenes:
Meanwhile,from your earlier quote, "we","us" etc was used by the people who used the human sperm. How come you have changed it to allah now? Let's use the original term please.

if I get you correctly, when Allah peeks in the book He might decide to use either of the tenses He dim fit to address Himself, He uses I, ME, WE, US and call Himself names Like Al-Rahman, Al-Rahim etc and Allah is the ultimate of all His names. if He address Himself as We dose not mean that there are many gods but only showing His majesty over the universe. Does dis answer your Q if not let me get it again.

ifenes:
I will no doubt add the Quran to my collection of books. I read everything. Thanks

There are many Quran translation to English by different translator, I will recommend the Quran with both English and Arabic text translated by Yusuf Ali because of its simplicity of expression but if you cant any is ok.

Blackfire:
.....and?

............... But (there were people) before them, who denied (the Signs),- the People of Noah, and the Confederates (of Evil) after them; and every People plotted against their prophet, to seize him, and disputed by means of vanities, therewith to condemn the Truth; but it was I that seized them! and how (terrible) was My Requital! (5) Thus was the Decree of thy Lord proved true against the Unbelievers; that truly they are Companions of the Fire! (6) Those who sustain the Throne (of Allah) and those around it Sing Glory and Praise to their Lord; believe in Him; and implore Forgiveness for those who believe: "Our Lord! Thy Reach is over all things, in Mercy and Knowledge. Forgive, then, those who turn in Repentance, and follow Thy Path; and preserve them from the Penalty of the Blazing Fire! (7)

ifenes:
As a Muslim I do not expect you to agree the bible is authentic, just as they wont agree yours is authentic either.

yes bible according to Jesus is authentic but the problem with the Christendom today is the were about this Gospel according to Jesus? nothing like gospel according to Mark, Matthew, Luke, John, and must annoying is Paul the self made disciple.

ifenes:
You said God uses prophets in every generations. Maybe what you meant is prophets of every generation serve as a reminder of the true nature of humans. A reminder that we are more than we think we are. God of every generation is moulded according to the knowledge available. Today people see God as the Internet. All seem valid.

yes i agreed with you that internet is god of people that refused to sight the numerous signs of Allah close to them, in the universe and withing them self, since human nature can not do without worshiping, you must have something to worship; stone, sun, iron, water, money, human, Humanity, ego, science etc are among the gods of insensitive human who think he was created out of nothing and deliberately refused to read signs of his eyes and it contents.

ifenes:
You quotes makes use of "we"( plural a lot). You cannot tell me that is one person. Can you explain how the sperm was used? I'm curious, because I know sperm cells can be used for IVF purposes.

I think i did explain this already. on the sperm and the IVF, the scientist couldn't produce man from laboratory but by the same spam created initially by Allah, let the Scientist create uncreated element to develop embryo then we can start talking, but as for this knowledge given to human by Allah is a limited one and can never go beyond the limit, human knows only what is brain capacity can carry.

ifenes:
I personally don't see anything almighty with the Quran,it's seem like a story. An interesting story to enjoy,not to worship or reverence

Get one copy for your self and sincerely, openhearted read this Quran. How could Muhammad of far desert years ago know what science just came to now yesterday? ponder over this He was not leaned and yet the word could never produce such impeccable and eloquent book of wisdom, for the nations followed by Millions and Generations. Well done brother.