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Quran 17: Every man's fate We have fastened on his own neck: On the Day of Judgment We shall bring out for him a scroll, which he will see spread open. (13) (It will be said to him "Read thine (own) record: Sufficient is thy soul this day to make out an account against thee." (14) Who receiveth guidance, receiveth it for his own benefit: who goeth astray doth so to his own loss: No bearer of burdens can bear the burden of another: nor would We visit with Our Wrath until We had sent an messenger (to give warning).

Demmzy15:
A cry of defeat!

I have studied him closely is an apology, Quran said that they have no proof but guesswork even their believes is based on that. Good work brother.

Medicis:
Ride with you? How can I ride with somebody that has not answered one question correctly . Every true Christian on earth and on nairaland knows that the old and the new testament were ratified by a blood covenant. You call something a testament and you're telling me it's not ratified by anything. Are u alright at all? The problem I have with you is calling the quran a testament.... IT IS NOT!!!!!! U are free to call the quran a testament in you Islamic section(cage) where u deceive yourself but certainly not here. Honestly, this is a prove that the Bible and the quran are not from the same source. Continue to wallow in your ignorance...

if every christian believed that God died could be a misinformation fed by one of the story teller and accepted by the dead minded lazy followers since no scripture confirms it so and can not make it a fact and even every lazy christian believe that there was a blood somewhere dose not make it fact.

but in contrary, Jesus said for everyone that keep the commandment shall be great in the even and and for people who don't shall be the list in the kingdom of God ie those among blood believers.

Quran 22: The sacrificial camels we have made for you as among the symbols from Allah: in them is (much) good for you: then pronounce the name of Allah over them as they line up (for sacrifice): when they are down on their sides (after slaughter), eat ye thereof, and feed such as (beg not but) live in contentment, and such as beg with due humility: thus have We made animals subject to you, that ye may be grateful. (36) It is not their meat nor their blood, that reaches Allah: it is your piety that reaches Him: He has thus made them subject to you, that ye may glorify Allah for His Guidance to you and proclaim the good news to all who do right. (37)

Medicis:
I've heard u. Now back to my question? What is your last so called fake Testament ratified byif u cannot answer this, don't you ever call the quran a testament anymore in your life. What you wrote above shows you are soooo empty and you've not been able to answer one single question correctly.

so soon, you sound like being frustrated. Stop the insult and lets go for the ride, is it not time for some of you to question the bases of your religion ? Jesus said if you need the eternal live you should work harder but not by his blood. Don't be lazy brother, read from God and his prophet and not from Paul and his story tellers. Remember no single jot shall be left out in the commandment as instructed by the Jesus Christ. please get it now that it was never the way of God to ratify any Law with blood so no testament has ever an shall never be ratified with blood of anybody or anything.

Annunaki:
It is "ratified" by the blood of millions of people killed by islamic terrorists right from the time of mohammed till this very day.

This for people like Paul and his disciples; Quran 7: After them succeeded an (evil) generation: They inherited the Book, but they chose (for themselves) the vanities of this world, saying (for excuse): "(Everything) will be forgiven us." (Even so), if similar vanities came their way, they would (again) seize them. Was not the covenant of the Book taken from them, that they would not ascribe to Allah anything but the truth? and they study what is in the Book. But best for the righteous is the home in the Hereafter. Will ye not understand? (169)

Quran 3 There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (78

Medicis:
Matthew 26:26-28 King James Version
(KJV)
And as they were eating, Jesus took
bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave
it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this
is my body.
And he took the cup, and gave thanks,
and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of
it;For this is MY BLOOD OFTHE NEW
TESTAMENT, which is shed for many for the
remission of sins. Still waiting for the answer to my question?

now this might be too bogus for the christian today to understand that a man talking of betrayer of him tonight and given his disciples the last blessing and praying in food and drink to his God for forgiveness of his followers sin and taken oat for the betrayer among them since all of them denied capable of betraying him, that was a blessing for the innocent and oat or course for the betrayer and nothing like redemption of any sin. or is is logical that thy taken his blood for real in that cup ? then have you taken yours ?

now did he told anybody that his blood and body can now be shared to every christian today for their forgiveness too ? wake up brother Bible said no body shall carry a burden of another and it will not be logical since no where God said this but surely this was a man thinking and make up for his selfish and lazy argument.

Medicis:
OLD TESTAMENT:Hebrews 9:18-20 New International Version.
This is why even the first covenant was
not put into effect without blood When
Moses had proclaimed every command of
the law to all the people, he took the blood
of calves, together with water, scarlet wool
and branches of hyssop, and sprinkled the
scroll and all the people. He said, “This is
the blood of the covenant, which God has
commanded you to keep. NEW TESTAMENT: Heb 9:11-12.
But when Christ came as high priest of
the good things that are now already here,
he went through the greater and more
perfect tabernacle that is not made with
human hands, that is to say, is not a part of
this creation. He did not enter by means
of the blood of goats and calves; but he
entered the Most Holy Place once for all by
his own blood, thus obtaining eternal
redemption.Now, answer my Question What is your so called last Testament(quran) ratified by

I asked you for God say or Jesus said and you are here given story books of sacrifices and gifts, look even now when you pray to God for something their is a believe that given gift and sacrifice aid in God to answering the prayer

Now quote where God said Law were ratified by Blood or keep silence.

Scholar8200:
What is a Testament? (note Testament is not the same as Testimony)

Will as in English, as in Christendom voluminous Bible, as I use it here is Covenant, commandment and laws
Again the Taora the Injil And Quran were all covenant and law between God and mankind and Jinkind which set out the commandments of do and do

Scholar8200:
Promised what?

You tell me. Or you need to be reminded about your no 1. question.

Scholar8200:
What Promise and what condition are you referring to?

The condition is when you refuse to abide by those commandment the glory will be taken away

Scholar8200:
Here is the question again:

3. Both testaments, Old and New, were ratified by blood. By what was the final testament ratified?

Now answer correctly.

now with quotation pls where did God said He amended any law with Blood

Scholar8200:
That Prophet is also the Messiah which is Jesus Christ.

John 1: 20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Christ.”
21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?”
He said, “I am not.”
“Are you the Prophet?”
He answered, “No.”

here John has answered for the Christ which he said is not, so tell me who is saying otherwise you or the Bible ?

Scholar8200:
where He said so.

John 16:  “I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come.

Scholar8200:
Show where this was written in Genesis in relation to Abraham and prove that this is the promise in question.



Again, 6. What correlation is there between your final testament and God's Promise to Abraham (being the basis of the OT and NT)
Hint: Quote that promise from Genesis then proceed to show what place Muhammed/Quran occupies therein

The foremost of all commandment “Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! Dut 6:4 and Mark 12:29

Quran 3: Behold! Allah took the covenant of the prophets, saying: "I give you a Book and Wisdom; then comes to you a messenger, confirming what is with you; do ye believe in him and render him help." Allah said: "Do ye agree, and take this my Covenant as binding on you?" They said: "We agree." He said: "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses." (81) If any turn back after this, they are perverted transgressors. (82)

Medicis:
Bet you don't even know the meaning of a Testament. The old Testament was sealed by a blood covenant(animal blood) and the New testament by a blood covenant(the Blood of Jesus). Kindly tell what this your last Testament was ratified By?

where in the books were these testament redeemed by the blood of any, were ?

Scholar8200:
Did the Quran describe itself as the final testament or you used that word to endear it to the People of the Book? If it did then kindly answer:
1. The OT and NT were off shoots of the promise made to Abraham and were prophesied ahead of time. How come the final testament is bereft of the faintest jot of reference by these books revealed? And your final testament makes no reference to the framework- God's promise to Abraham?

2. Since God is not the author of confusion, why was the New Covenant called Everlasting Covenant? especially if there was to be another?

3. Both testaments, Old and New, were ratified by blood. By what was the final testament ratified?

4. The last prophet as Israel/the Church knows them, was John the baptist whose coming was clearly (expressedly) prophesied and his birth as such was attested to by angel Gabriel; mother, father and all Israel testified of his ministry and were witnesses. Whence a final prophet in the books? And why the deafening silence by the books? And this prophet testified that Jesus Christ was greater than himself and would baptise with the Spirit, why does the final prophet equate Christ with the same man and those in his class? Who was right?

5. If Mohammed had come in the inter-testament period,perhaps some of my questions would be unnecessary. But for one who came about 5+ centuries after and reiterated similar laws after the pattern of the OT's laws (with some differences) after God had clearly said He was going to make a New Covenant, NOT ACCORDING TO THE OLD, and He had already perfected same through Christ, the claims of such an one suggests that God later reversed His own words (Impossible!). How do you explain or clarify this?

6. What correlation is there between your final testament and God's Promise to Abraham (being the basis of the OT and NT)

Kindly answer from 6 - 1.

Only If there is anything like NT and OT with reference from both then there is LT and Quran was send to correct and master all other religion books and criteria to judge from wrong and wright as the Last prophet is the witness over all the mankind.

1.Abraham genealogy were all promised which include that of the prophet Muhammad SAW .

2.Sure, the promise of God was with condition which He knows that the Israelite can not for fill and told them that the glory will be taken away from them to another nation if they fail and they did failed.

3.No covenant was abolished by blood, no one, not in any testament from God.

4.Then what about THAT PROPHET prophesied which John himself claimed not.

5.When Christ Himself said they were many unfinished project that some one else need to finished.

6.The correlation is the same that is worship ONE GOD and ONLY and the prophet at that particular time is the way leading to God.



Quran 6: This is the way of thy Lord, leading straight: We have detailed the signs for those who receive admonition. (126

Annunaki:
Have you considered that your allahh is satan in disguise and that if you worship him, you are actually worshipping satan.

AL Anam 6: abuse not ye those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest they out of spite revile Allah in their ignorance. Thus have We made alluring to each people its own doings. In the end will they return to their Lord, and We shall then tell them the truth of all that they did. (108)

Scholar8200:
Op, how would you define the word Testament?

the testimony is the same from the Old (given to Moses) to the New (for Jesus) and now to the Last of the testament given to the last prophet Muhammad SAW which is Al-Ikhlas
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; (1) Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; (2) He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; (3) And there is none like unto Him. (4)

Annunaki:
Arrant nonsense!

Fussilat 41: Say, "Have you considered: if the Qur'an is from Allah and you disbelieved in it, who would be more astray than one who is in extreme dissension?" (52) We will show them Our signs in the horizons and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth. But is it not sufficient concerning your Lord that He is, over all things, a Witness? (53) Unquestionably, they are in doubt about the meeting with their Lord. Unquestionably He is, of all things, encompassing. (54

Annunaki:
In your opinion, how do you compare what uthman dan fodio did to what boko haram is trying to do today? Would you consider him as a terrorist?

Let me abide by the Op's rules till then Salam.

Yunus 10: And most of them follow not except assumption. Indeed, assumption avails not against the truth at all. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of what they do. (36) And it was not [possible] for this Qur'an to be produced by other than Allah, but [it is] a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of the [former] Scripture, about which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds. (37) Or do they say [about the Prophet], "He invented it?" Say, "Then bring forth a surah like it and call upon [for assistance] whomever you can besides Allah, if you should be truthful." 38

AL- An am:6:19 Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, "Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]." (19)

Al-Furqan
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Blessed is He who sent down the Criterion upon His Servant that he may be to the worlds a warner - (1) He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination. (2)But they have taken besides Him gods which create nothing, while they are created, and possess not for themselves any harm or benefit and possess not [power to cause] death or life or resurrection. (3) And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie. (4) And they say, "Legends of the former peoples which he has written down, and they are dictated to him morning and afternoon." (5) Say, [O Muhammad], "It has been revealed by He who knows [every] secret within the heavens and the earth. Indeed, He is ever Forgiving and Merciful." (6) And they say, "What is this messenger that eats food and walks in the markets? Why was there not sent down to him an angel so he would be with him a warner? (7) Or [why is not] a treasure presented to him [from heaven], or does he [not] have a garden from which he eats?" And the wrongdoers say, "You follow not but a man affected by magic." ( Look how they strike for you comparisons; but they have strayed, so they cannot [find] a way. (9) Blessed is He who, if He willed, could have made for you [something] better than that - gardens beneath which rivers flow - and could make for you palaces. (10) But they have denied the Hour, and We have prepared for those who deny the Hour a Blaze. (11)

Salam Alaikum, Alhamdullilah I am A MUSLIM.

you can send the mobile phone to the EFCC forensic Lab, and also collaborate with their crime scene officers, they have good hands.

Quran 31:27 And if whatever trees upon the earth were pens and the sea [was ink], replenished thereafter by seven [more] seas, the words of Allah would not be exhausted. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.

am happy to read this.

frosbel: the bible teaching is that MAN goes back to dust after death and his spirit, i.e the breath or life of GOD in him ( which is a gift ) goes back to GOD.

"When you hide your face, they are terrified; when you take away their breath, they die and return to the dust." - Psalm 104:29

. Sure but query here is to know if praying for the dead man maters bc many christian will say you don't pray for him then if so why RIP since its also a prayer and morover someone can only rest in peace if only he practice the way of his master, thanks

So what was the teaching of bible about these options or is just wat you think of yourself?

Thought I am from muslim parent but I live to understand the popos of life by comparing all other ways of life thurh their books and teachings but quran stand a book of past present and future which could not be composed by any other human but the creator opf the univers, a pratical religion that give solution to all problems of human other books are compromised. Isam is the only religion aceptable by God the same religion of Adam, Abraham, Musa, Isa and the last of them is Muhammed peace be on them all b

Ukuts gp: in the beginning God create one man and one woman. The two wife issue is a disobedience on men's part.

. The human is the most complicate machine which need manual to oprate and here comes the books of God revealed to his messangers and our conjection without comformation from them is doomed for humanity which christedom are guilty of. Jisus nor david prohibt this in their book but the Westan now save as our religion that you worship but surely not the teachings of God

Alhamdulilah I'm a muslim and congrat tu the new brothers in faith and for the admires of islam let them play the business game too for the sake of the money if not why these coments and by time islam is taking over and is comming even to your door step just wait and see but be prepared bc

I am a Muslim but read Bible for studies and never come accr any verse in the bible that prohibit such and infact David, Solomon, abraham amog other can not be wrong but only Jesus who never mary but when he comes the second time he will mary and paherps many oly God knows

Well done, your reward is with Allah

Lagosian brother we await your update

May Allah make it easy for you.try to read translated Quran and get closer to a good muslim to teach u the relegion and other islamic site will also help u but maind the site. Some of them are anti Islam