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Xavier5:
Truth is, whether they cast entirely new actors or they retain some old actors, the DCU will still have a shaky start, and the media and people will still talk, criticise and throw blames. Why? That's because the DC film brand is weak and unstable, and the solution to that is focusing on building a brand by;

* Creating a progressive and cohesive universe irrespective of the poor performance of the first sets of films or some of them.
* Enormously progressing on the planned saga irrespective of the poor performance of the first sets of films or some of them.

With this, within a space of few years (three to five), the DCU brand will be built due to audience and fanbase interest and faith in the franchise.

So the problem is not the actors (entirely new or not) they choose to go with, but rather the franchise brand. If Gunn wants to go with entirely new actors, fine. If he wants to retain some old actors, fine. But irrespective of the path he wants to take, he and Zaslav should make sure they focus on building a stable DCU brand irrespective of the poor performance of the first set or some of the first set of films. This should be the focus and not if they're going with entirely new actors or not, this won't in any way determine the success of the DCU.

Truth is, the first set or some of the first set of the DCU films will perform poorly whether we like it or not, but it's the resilience and consistency of Zaslav, Gunn and Safran to build a good DCU brand --- by creating a progressive and cohesive universe, and enormously continuing with the planned saga --- that will eventually give the DCU the success it deserves, with or without entirely new actors.

Besides, reboot deals with changing timelines and storylines, not characters and actors. The issue of change of actors and characters is an option, it's a matter of choice, and not standard, or right and wrong.



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Xavier5:
If Gal is playing Wonder Woman, that's goodnews. She's a good actress that played Wonder Woman well. Having her in the DCU will be amazing.

I'm still trying to figure out where and when reboot equates to not featuring some old actors.

Gunn himself said (that was December last year or January this year, any of them) that in the DCU, some old actors will be retained, some old actors will be shown the door, and new actors will be brought in.

But regarding the validity of this information, I'll wait for confirmation from Gunn himself.

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EKONGKING:
Nigeria should focus on its problems , We should not get dragged into other people problems . The world is divided between westerners and others .Niger as a country should not and must not be a proxy war between NATO and Russia .

Nigeria as a country should play larger sized role in diplomacy ,we should send Buhari for diplomatic talks and peace deals , War is not at an option for Nigeria at this critical time .

Just like Buhari made Goodluck a peace ambassador , Tinubu should think along the same lines .

Minemrys:
If Aquaman and Blue Beetle underperforms, James Gunnverse might be shelved. WB needs to start making profit as it is cause I doubt investors would want to invest in coming DC projects.
That's why I am saying James Gunn better quit the media nonsense cause if Zaslav calls the whole thing off, it'll be a big embarrassment for him. He should stay low key, cause as it is, everyone is waiting for I told you so. Superman project is very different from Guardians of the Galaxy and would be closely watched and nitpicked at every turn like MOS and Superman Returns.
Gunn needs to shut up about the project till it's filmed and marked for release.

Xavier5:
Yeah, Lex should be established as a Superman villain in the DCU, but he shouldn't be the villain of the first two Superman films, but the third. With this, they tune down on his over usage while also making him the peak Superman villain, that is, the villain of the climax to a Superman trilogy. The first two films prepare the grounds for his eventual confrontation with Superman.


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Minemrys:
I really am not against Lex being a Superman film villain but not this early. He can be introduced but as a character not just a baddie. Seriously there's a way you can write Lex without making him redundant. He is now an anti-hero now sef independent of Superman.
They should end this notion of Lex always trying to kill Superman. Yea, he doesn't have to be friends with him but they can be rivals who occasionally will work together. Smallville did this right.

Minemrys:
I hope they don't announce Lex till when the film premiers. It shouldn't look like this is a Lex vs Superman film.

Xavier5:
The Flash currently sits at 210.9M from $139M opening at the box office, not the ideal for a movie of its calibre, but a far cry from the prophecy of doom all over the net.

That's why I always said, let the coming weeks determine the performance of the movie. Who knows, things may go positive.


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TonySpike:
Yeah, they shouted back then,

"DCEU is too dark and broody",
"The colour palette is too bland"
"Comic book movies should not be serious"

Today, we have DC movies being opposites of these and yet nobody is watching these "marvel-like" movies again. Lol...

IngeniousLeez:
Aquaman is a fun and enjoyable movie. If at all anything, it's DCEU first MCU type of film.

You peeps always have a funny way of including Aquaman in DCEU success movies because of its billion dollar gross and kick out the less successful ones. Everyone knows its easily an MCU flick, some people not deep in comic book stuff even confuse it to Marvel.

BlackManta:
The Flash bombed so hard WB are now doing "buy one, get one free" to sell tickets

I've never seen anything like this before, even for other DCEU films that flopped

The Flash is pacing to drop over 75% in it's second weekend. It would be the worst second weekend drop for a cbm ever.

Xavier5:
Did you take note of the word "each" in my statement?



Production budget: maximum $200M
Marketing budget: maximum $200M
BEP (total cost which equates to the amount needed to be profitable): maximum $400M.

Do you understand now?



James Gunn as the central guy is more reasons why he should be actively involve in the media promotion. He has a large social media platform, such should be harnessed.

You shouldn't be bothered about him being active in the promotion, rather you should be bothered about him making reveals and controversial statements regarding the film during promotion.

There's no where it is a law that reveals and controversial statements regarding a film has to be made during a film's promotion.

Gunn should be active in the film's promotion without making any reveals and controversial statements regarding the film in the course of the promotion.
Promote the film, leave spoilers, reveals of test screenings reports to the public, c[b]omparisons, unnecessary hype and controversial statements out of it.[/b]



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Xavier5:
I agree with some of this, but not all.

First of all, everything starts with cost minimization. Their production and marketing costs should be inexcessive. As a matter of fact, the production and marketing budget, giving the kind of film it is, should be a maximum of $200M each, which gives us a maximum BEP of $400M, anything more than that will be profits (gross).

I agree with your trailer and TV spots strategies, but I don't agree with your staying off media and non test screenings ideas.

Media hype is vital, and staying off won't give the needed hype. You can't rely on the fanbase and media, considering their indifference and bias towards the brand.
WBD, Gunn, Safran and the cast should harness their respective social media and YouTube platforms, and selected media influencers (who must be DC fans) to promote the film. In addition to that, there should be a NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT by the cast, crews and executives not to reveal or hint any detail/ spoiler of the film in the course of promotions.

Test screenings is also very vital due to its feedbacks on the film's quality. Test screenings should be done but;
* It must involve only selected DC fans, not critics, industry analysts, celebrities or media influencers.
* Test screenings should only occur a maximum of three times.
* Reports and feedbacks of the test screenings shouldn't be made public but only to WBD/ DC.
* The selected DC fans involved in the test screenings should be made to sign a NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT in other not to breathe a word to the public.
* Reports and feedbacks from the test screenings should be used to effect necessary changes in the film.

This should also be applied to all DCU movies and series, be it big, medium or small movies and series.

I think with this, the movie will be done and marketed properly without excessive cost which in turn amounts to lower BEP and high chance of commercial performance and profitablity.

BankyGee:
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pu7pl3:
I've seen the movie
I'm asking who the villain was

Xavier5:
The coming weeks will tell if the movie will perform. There's competition no doubt, but the industry is filled with unpredictability, we also have the element of surprise.

Going with the performance of the movie now, anything can happen. The next three to five weeks will determine its overall performance.



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pu7pl3:
Who was the Villain?

We'll know for sure if the haters were really the ones that saw it first when 2nd week numbers drop.

pu7pl3:
Only thing the movie needs is good word of mouth. Many people that rushed to see the movie first were just haters and with the trend DC has been on many Loyal fans were just being cautious.
I think if more people come out and squash this nonsense talk of bad CGI and incoherent story the movie will gain some legs.

Xavier5:
So after all the noise of The Flash bombing, it still ended with a $139M opening weekend.

For the "that's too poor" crew, understand that big openings does not equate to commercial success of a film but its ability to perform well over the coming weeks. Never forget BvS, Shazam, JL, MoS etc

BvS had opening weekend of over $400M; Shazam, $150M; JL, over $200M; MoS, over $150M. How did they perform eventually?

To me,The Flash opening is okay, but let's see how well it can go in the coming weeks.

And so you know, The Flash supposed competitor, Elemental, had an opening weekend of $48M. It seems it's an Industry thing now, not just Comic book films or "The Flash."

Bro, we should face the reality the competition is very tough and blockbuster movies are still lining up to be released, no room for The Flash to have a long leg when the words of mouth are not great. Not just even The Flash alone, check out most of the movies released (for the past a month and half) they are finding it extremely difficult to perform well, e.g The Little Mermaid (of all movie) is heavily struggling to do well.
My concern is with the execs and not even with the director. They must have seen the movie before anyone and knows a cgi of that standard For me is not acceptable in this modern days to give us such poor cgi, yet they gave the go ahead to release it, even with the heavy competition this period.
We can try to play the "my own na my own" game, but the cgi I saw is beyond defendable... Even one of the Superman cameo that they could've used the original actor in the scene and probably used a de-age technology to work the remaining out, but no they rather went all out to give use a ps4 (not even ps5) graphics.

Even if I'm never a fan of James Gunn, I think his reboot (for now) serves as the best option since the DCEU I came to know and loved have been bastardised by mostly the fanbase that feels all cbm need to be lighthearted and fun..


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Minemrys:
There's already bound to be a comparison. The CW versions.

Minemrys:
*The Flash Movie review: What happened to the man in yellow?*

https://topnaija.ng/the-flash-movie-review-what-happened-to-the-man-in-yellow/

Nickshrapnel:
I’m pretty sure she would be manhandled, they won’t bring Zod back to ridicule him

Minemrys:
I think it is self explanatory. Kara didn't grow up with the Kent's. She grew up on Krypton and doesn't hold herself back. So she technically doesn't have any mental block holding her like Superman. she is not scared of fighting dirty. That's how she is in the comics I guess.

Minemrys:
Never thought a day will come when this thread will be dead...
@SMUAG, @pu7pl, @thekingishere, @abduleez1, @TonySpike @raalsalghul @el where you all at na? Long time. Hope you all are still hitting the ground running?

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Ened:
It's a case of chicken and egg, which came first. Subsidy removal and cutting down cost of govt are good policies. Whichever is tackled first is good as long as it doesn't stop the govt from tackling the other.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
But as far as this psm subsidy, I support the removal kpatakpata.

ezechi242:
are you that foolish to see that GEJ regime was the reason people voted maasively for buhari ...just go and kill yourself mugu

ezechi242:
see how stupid you sound, were in my writing did i praise the nonsense regime of Buhari, what i was simply saying was that GEJ met a very good nation as a president and the rot eating this country up right now started from him because he was too naive and afraid.

an african leader is supposed to be fearless and not careless .....instead of you to read and understand you jump out of your smelling hole to insult yourself....spits

ezechi242:
Your stupidity actually started from the person that reincarnated you...so idiot I don't really blame you...hahah