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Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 7:54pm On Apr 30, 2010
@ Odunnu
Thanks. Check urs.

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Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 3:08pm On Apr 30, 2010
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PoliticsRe: Oshiomhole In Dilemma As Edo Ac Splits by snowdrops(op): 3:06pm On Apr 30, 2010
kosovo:
snowdrops, it is either you are a member of PDP, or you worked with the failed Igbenedion and/or Osunbor Government . . . You have never said anything positive about Oshiomole, One of the Best Governors we have around!
Kosovo Kosovo. I always suspected you follow threads concerning Edo state with keen interest. Pleased to know your opinion about my posts even though they are not exactly correct as a poster had already pointed out.
Anyway i am not a PDP supporter or member. It is laughable to even accuse me of working with Igbinedion. Ohisng knows better. Ask him .
PoliticsRe: Oshiomhole In Dilemma As Edo Ac Splits by snowdrops(op): 2:59pm On Apr 30, 2010
ohisng:
My man, u suppose know me by now. I am steadfast in all my beliefs! I no be atiku when longthroat wan kill!!! lol. If PDP see person like me, dem suppose go do thanksgiving!! U know one bad thing about politics; u really cant refuse anyone. PDP have one common denominator: lack of shame, stupidity and an innate desire to steal. U want to steal and go scott free? join the PDP
Do i sense humility? Is someone slowly coming to terms with reality? I warned you several times ohisng. This Oshiomhole man instead of focusing solely on governance was busy jolificating with the Igbinedions and attacking imaginary godfathers and godmothers.

Igbinedion has always had his agenda. He only used Oshiomhole in his battle for control of the PDP against Anenih. Now him and his gang are decamping from the AC back to the Ogbemudias faction in PDP. Oshiomhole better start watching his back because right now he can no longer tell who is an enemy or a friend.

Very sad because the greatest losers in all this drama are the ordinary people of Edo state.
Foreign AffairsRe: Uk Election On May 6; With Polls by snowdrops(op): 2:46pm On Apr 30, 2010
debosky:
Where is the information showing 80% of immigrants are from the EU? Besides, as those EU countries get better, immigration from them will reduce. The unending flow of immigrants will continue to come from the third world.

371,000 study permits were given in 2008/09, with about 140,000 renewing per year, many only intending to become immigrants rather than really wanting to leave at the end of their stay. Those numbers are there and cannot be denied.

Besides, the estimated 1 million illegal immigrants in the UK are not from the EU.
The 80% is a Home office figure. The fact that there is free movement within the EU, EU dont need work permit to work here and that most europeans are caucasian mean their presence can be easily overlooked.

Cameron is only deluding himself. There is no way net migration to the uk would be below a 100,000. Unless this figure does not include EU citizens.

PS. Voted today and it was for Labour.
Foreign AffairsRe: Uk Election On May 6; With Polls by snowdrops(op): 2:40pm On Apr 30, 2010
Freiburger:
I wonder. As if the whole election is all about immigration.
Well, i'm not from the UK but i 've been taking a close watch on
the election, and i think the Lib dem leader will ermerge
as the next PM
since the polls signifies a tight race, and Gordon Brown
just revealed he can't be trusted by calling a labour voter a bigoted woman
few moments after a friendly and normal conversation.
So i think every potential labour voter who got angry from that will not go that far
voting the conservatives, they will simply end up voting the lib dem.
But another thing is that the Nick Clegg's position on immigration is somehow too porus,
and that might affect him in swing areas presently controlled by the conservatives.
Son, your sins are forgiven. You rightly said you are not from uk. So you gaffe would be overlooked.
Foreign AffairsRe: Uk Election On May 6; With Polls by snowdrops(op): 2:38pm On Apr 30, 2010
@ ElRazur

We are not having an arguement about immigration. I am not worked up about it. Also i am a MR not a Madam tongue

Australias point based system cannot be applied for EU nationals. If the UK were to do that, it means they would have to pull out of the EU their biggest trading partner. 2 million jobs will be lost and billions of pounds would leave their economy. And i can bet my testicles that would never happen.

The BNP dont care about your British passport. Their brain only picks up skin colour, whether you are white or not white. I detest them as well, but i want you to realize that immigration to some is about preserving a white identity for britain.
PoliticsRe: Oshiomhole In Dilemma As Edo Ac Splits by snowdrops(op): 9:33am On Apr 30, 2010
So where have you been all this while? Hope you are not amongst those decamping to PDP? tongue Na koboko dem go take pursue you.
Oshiomhole should remember the saying never dine with the devil not even with a long spoon. He openly accepted crooks from PDP into his fold. That as i have always warned marked the beginning of his downfall. Lucky Igbenedion who Oshiomhole has always romanced with has his own agenda and i bet you it doesnt include Oshiomhole as th enext governor in 2011.
Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 8:14am On Apr 30, 2010
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Foreign AffairsRe: Uk Election On May 6; With Polls by snowdrops(op): 8:11am On Apr 30, 2010
ElRazur:
I don't know about you guys, but the more I read about people here opposing tougher stance on immigration, the more I am forced to think these people do not have papers and as such have something to hide.

I support cap immigration, I support enforced tough stance towards illegal immigration. In fact, any one illegal should be hunted down and removed.  smiley Get the correct papers, come here, work and there won't be a problem. smiley
So white British people who oppose a cap on immigration also lack papers? Surely you can do better than that ElRazur.

Like Nick said yesterday, 80% of immigrants to the UK are from the EU. Therefore you cannot stop them from coming here or place a cap on their numbers. Just as you cannot do same for UK citizens going to mainland europe. Cameron will say anything to get into power. He promises to cut net immigration to below 100,000. That is stupid and unrealistic based on the points above.

So ElRazur, dont deceive yourself, even if you have papers, you are still counted as an immigrant and the typical man on the street would gladly wish you and your family leave their country. As Nick Griffin said, he will give you £50,000 to go back to your country.
PoliticsOshiomhole In Dilemma As Edo Ac Splits by snowdrops(op): 8:04am On Apr 30, 2010
The news of division in the ruling Action Congress (AC), in Edo State has created deep tension in the party. Adibe Emenyonu traces the factionalisation story to Grace Group, a pressure group which comprises majority of the membership of the party

At the twilight of the administration of former Governor of Edo State, Lucky Igbinedion in 2007 after the expiration of his eight-year reign in May 29, of same year, the hitherto dominant party, the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) was sharply divided. The division attained a climax when party membership revalidation exercise carried out by the party’s national secretariat snowballed into crisis at the state, local government and ward levels.

At the end of that exercise, prominent members of the party at all levels were de-registered, thus culminating in the formation of new political platforms. One of such parties was the Action Congress (AC) which was formed by the disenfranchised members of PDP to serve as a platform for the pursuit of their political ambitions.

In Edo State, the deregistration in PDP also witnessed the constitution of a new political group, Grace Group, with the intention to challenge the existing political establishment. The group was founded by Pastor Osagie Ize-Iyamu, a former Secretary to Edo State Government. The group which has as its motto: “No Man is God,” was purely formed to challenge the Chief Tony Anenih’s perceived overbearing influence on the party (PDP).

The intra-party crisis in Edo PDP, according to investigation, started in 2005 when the PDP verification exercise commenced, but only escalated when it became obvious that it had lost many members of the party. Opportunities however, came when AC emerged as a registered political party and all the disenfranchised members decided to pitch their tents with AC.

Conscious of the necessity for a credible governorship candidate, if it must teach its rivals in PDP some political lessons, the AC opted to draft the former Nigeria Labour Congress (NLC) president, Comrade Adams Oshiomhole, into the party. Oshiomhole who came via a joint ticket of the Labour Party and Action Congress, fulfilled the desires of those who invited him as well as the masses as he lived up to his promise to defend their votes. Though he was robbed of victory at the polls, victory was eventually restored to him through the Elections Petitions Tribunal and the Court of Appeal which on November 11, 2008 affirmed the decision of the lower tribunal.

However, immediately victory was achieved and the time to share the “booty,” followed, prominent members of AC in the state began to fight one another over the method to employ in sharing the “cake.” Like a leopard that never changes its spot, the same insatiable appetites that are usually associated with Nigerian politics reared up their heads. While some are of the opinion that the doctrine of winners take all should apply, others are not disposed to such views of “kill and divide.”

Oshiomhole’s resistance started the war and today, the party is sharply divided. It was learnt that the battle to control Oshiomhole started the crisis amongst the “noble” group that saw him to power. A source close to the Government House, Benin, disclosed that just after his swearing-in on November 12, 2008, the big wigs called him to a meeting where they presented a list of political appointees to him. This signalled the first issue he had with them. The former Labour president was said to have shocked conveners of the meeting as he announced the appointment of Secretary to the State Government [SSG] and Chief of Staff (COS), contrary to the names on the list presented to him.

It took Oshiomhole’s power of persuasion to convince these AC leaders to accept his decision.It was reliably gathered that Oshiomhole openly told the party stalwarts what informed his decision to appoint Pally Iriase and Osarodion Ogie as Secretary to the State Government (SSG) and the Chief of Staff respectively. As active members of AC and foundation members of Grace Group which is made up of the present crop of AC in Edo State, some persons believed that the choice of the two shouldn’t create any disharmony, but that was not the case.

THISDAY learnt that the governor based his choice of the two on the ground of merit and commitments to democratic growth in the state. It was learnt that as the Chairman of Owan East Local Government area of the state, after serving as the Deputy Speaker of Edo State House of Assembly between 1999-2003, Iriase fought the cabals in PDP over his preference to use direct labour instead of contract awards to party men. As a result of this, Iriase was in 2006, summoned by the House of Assembly where he was asked to desist from such attitude or face suspension. However, his decision to continue with the use of direct labour as a means of saving money to enable him embark on more infrastructural developments of the council area not only earned Iriase suspension, but also an expulsion from the party.

Similarly, the current Chief of Staff, Ogie endeared himself to Oshiomhole because of the brilliance he displayed during the legal tussle which accompanied the April 14, 2007 governorship election in the state. Ogie, as gathered, was said to be the arrow head of persons dishing out information that the legal team used in nailing PDP. As a member of the team, Ogie was able to collate all the information needed by the team and was never slack for a second until victory was achieved.
Those opposed to the two appointments later soft pedaled on the ground that being his first major appointments, Oshiomhole had the priority to choose his personal staff.

The last straw that broke the camel’s back were the appointments of commissioners, special advisers and senior special assistants. With the mind set of division, a good number of them were alleged to have collected money from lobbyists, promising to ensure that they were given one political appointment or the other. The political acolytes, knowing fully well that their masters called the shots in the party obliged. Again, Oshiomhole disappointed them. It was then that some of them lost faith in the governor and swore to wait for him in the days ahead.

It was reliably gathered that Oshiomhole neglected the list presented to him by some prominent members of the party particularly those who believed in the “cake of office” and who thought they should be part of the sharing because they played significant roles to ensure his victory. Some of them were said to have sold out to the opposition at one time or the other by conniving with certain chieftains in PDP to persuade Oshiomhole to withdraw his case from the tribunal which he refused to do.

Not only that, some of them were alleged to have tampered with the N30 million that a former governor in the state brought to help prosecute the case in court. To Oshiomhole, it was only the likes of the SSG, COS and others within his team that merited such appointments and not those who behaved like the chameleon.

Additionally, Oshiomhole’s subterranean engagement of these elements stemmed from their recent contemplation to move back to the PDP with former Vice President Abubakar Atiku. During the 60th birthday anniversary of Chief Tom Ikimi in Benin, which had in attendance Atiku, a nocturnal meeting was held at the country home of Igbinedion with AC chieftains in the state. One of the agenda of that meeting according to a source, was the plea by Atiku with his followers to return with him to PDP.

Another issue discussed as further learnt was the absence of Oshiomhole who was invited to the meeting but which he neither attended nor sent a representative. The governor’s refusal to attend, it was learnt, was based on his conviction that it was immoral to jump from one political platform to another. “This cannot deepen democracy in our polity,” the governor was quoted to have said.

Therefore, like the PDP, the AC government in Edo State is currently having its own share of crisis at the moment. As often said, when an organisation is faced with internal crisis, there is bound to be disequilibrium. When this happens, what normally happens is a cataclysm in form of disenchantments.

The disenchantments, sources close to the party say, have divided major elements of Grace Group, a pressure group that originally formed the bulk of AC membership in Edo State, into two fronts. The division occurs between those who are disposed to moving because their thinking is not in tandem with the governor’s style and policies and those who are committed to his dream and aspiration.

To this extent, those who feel aggrieved have started to romance the PDP, obviously to return, which will serve as a boost to Atiku’s recent visit to Edo State. THISDAY reliably gathered that those who had concluded plans to move to PDP have two jokers in their kitty, which they intend to play as the political momentum in the state gather.

The first option according to an insider within Grace Group, who preferred anonymity, is outright pull out from the party to PDP which formally rejected its members. To achieve this, members of the group is said to have concluded plans to join forces with the Samuel Ogbemudia faction of PDP to create a new political platform during the forthcoming 2010 local government election as well as the 2011 House of Assembly and National Assembly elections in the state in a bid to outwit AC.

To test the workability of the arrangement, the Ogbemudia faction of PDP which comprises Admiral Mike Akhigbe, former Chief of General Staff and Prince Solomon Aguele, pioneer chairman of the party in the state wrote Jonathan to consider its ministerial nominee after the acting president dissolved the federal executive council recently.

The second option THISDAY further learnt, is outright denial of Oshiomhole the AC ticket come 2012. And to achieve this is the subtle move to ensure that their preferred candidates scale through the local government, state assembly and National Assembly elections in the state.

Already, the 13 AC lawmakers in the state assembly are divided into three factions. While five have accepted the decision to return to PDP, five are vehemently opposed to the move, while two are sitting on the fence.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=172157
PoliticsRe: Soyinka And Tinubu Shun Oshiomhole's One-Man-One-Vote Rally In Benin City! by snowdrops(m): 8:02am On Apr 30, 2010
This saga has only exposed oshiomhole for who he truely is;

A deceptive, self-serving, corrupt, two-faced drama queen.
Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 10:49pm On Apr 29, 2010
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PoliticsRe: Reps Okay 10 New States by snowdrops(m): 10:44pm On Apr 29, 2010
More states, more governors, more LGA chairmen, more assembly men, more politicians, more corruption, more violence, more poverty, God save Nigeria
Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 7:54pm On Apr 29, 2010
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Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 7:06pm On Apr 29, 2010
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Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 6:00pm On Apr 29, 2010
chi-baby:
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Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 6:00pm On Apr 29, 2010
you changed sand to dada. That is 2 words s and n.
Foreign AffairsRe: Uk Election On May 6; With Polls by snowdrops(op): 5:57pm On Apr 29, 2010
OMO IBO:
So, Labour under Gordon brown finally blew it. . . . . .that is if they had any chance?

Did Murdoch and sky put the final boot in Gordon Brown's backside? I'm beginning to think so.

The microphone on Gordon's tie was Sky's.
The Mic should've been turned off the moment he got into the car.
The speed at which the news or gaffe spread was alarming.

Although I wasn't close to a TV when it happened I would've loved to see how long it took other TV stations to pick up the gaffe.

Futhermore, I see nothing wrong in what Gordon Brown muttered under his own breathe and in a car.

People need to get a real life. Just because someone is a public figure does not mean they seize to have an opinion.


What say youz lot, . . .

Has Murdoch won this one?
Rather than blow it, it even would further consolidate my resolution and blow away any doubts to vote in brown.
At least it shows he is human with emotions. Show me the party leader or politician that dont have less than savoury opinions of some members of the public and i will show you a BIGOT.
Besides the question the woman asked about immigrants was silly and hypocritical. "Where do eastern european migrants come from?". Hello there. From eastern europe.

NB. We have so far got less than 30 votes for our NL election poll. We need to do better.
Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 5:49pm On Apr 29, 2010
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Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 5:49pm On Apr 29, 2010
lalaboi:
dada
Wrong. Change only one word in last post.
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Guy take heart. I suggest you ask yahoo answers as well.
Christianity EtcRe: Senator Yerima's Marriage (Re: 13 Year Old Egyptian Girl) by snowdrops(m): 1:40pm On Apr 29, 2010
Are you implying that their prophet was a paedophile?
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On the contrary i heard she is a cheerful giver of her you know what tongue
HealthRe: Could Dis Be A Sign Of Pregnancy? by snowdrops(m): 1:31pm On Apr 29, 2010
Do a simple urine pregnancy check for confirmation.
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Odunnu:
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Forum GamesRe: Internet Scrabble by snowdrops(m): 10:24am On Apr 29, 2010
Odunnu:
Gdmrnin threadowner,dnt let me get a cane 4u o.Beta edit dat your last post and change only a leta nt 2letas
Seconded. People should read the rule before posting. Otherwise it would become chaos in here.
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Oyibole. Barawo.
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Best news of the year. Cokastic.

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