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Well maybe I lumped them all together but from 22 or is it 24 clubs? We can only mention less than 5 that plays the way you just explained. I don't think it makes sense leaving one main league (no matter how low) to another country's 2nd best. He should be moving from main to main.

TheGoodJoe:
There are good technical sides in the Championship. Swansea got promoted from the Championship playing some brilliant football, I think with Roberto Martinez in charge and later Brendan Rodgers. Bristol City is also playing some good technical football. Then we referring what Notthingam Forest did to Arsenal playing some sound technical footie.

Yes o, already seeing the future of football play and planning for that.

I now see why he excelled in his position almost all through his career.

TheGoodJoe:
That why part was also intriguing. Xavi already is calculating the next phase of football development. Says a lot of the Legend of the game.

God bless you for posting this. While we are so good blaming govt for everything, we have all forgotten we are the genesis and Revelation of all the problems facing us. Everything happening in Nigeria today is directly the fault of the citizens. Leaders are citizens and followers are to. Our priority in this country is sickening and we ignorantly flaunt our ignorance for the rest of the world to see.

We're so good downgrading ours, yet accuse other countries of hyping theirs, you think the others are beatdowns like Nigerians? If you don't encourage and praise yourself and your own, who then should do it for you?

Our mentality (majorly) has been our major setback in life.

goldfish80:
Interesting article. Something is definitely wrong with the black man's mind.
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How Can We Be So Myopic, Where are the Sponsors as the NPFL Resumes?

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The Nigerian Professional Football League begins the 2018 season this weekend without any major sponsors. Despite years of hard work to keep the league alive with lean resources, the expected sponsorship windfall has failed to materialize. It costs hundreds of millions, even billions, to run the league, so how do we expect success without quality sponsorship support? Nigerian brands like everyone else are struggling to meet their targets under the harsh economic realities we face, yet, rather than support the domestic league and create jobs and wealth locally they have continued to spend their dwindling resources on further entrenching the English Premier League and the UEFA Champions League in Nigeria – feeding the already fat Europeans while deepening poverty in our country. What I find incredibly surprising is how these brands cannot understand that they kill their own businesses doing this.

N igerians have probably blown over one trillion naira on the European game over the last 20 years, money that when it leaves our shores never comes back. Even as broke as we are now, in 2018 we will blow at least a further N50b. The sub-saharan broadcaster currently pays 84m pounds (N40.9b) annually for the EPL TV rights. Nigeria probably accounts for half its revenue projections, which would mean, plus profits, an amount in excess of N20b. Add the vast sums we spend travelling to the UK to watch live games and buy merchandise. Captains of industry who should be concerned about the capital flight and top political leaders who should worry about creating value for the electorate, are the ones in the vanguard of this detrimental culture. A few fly in their private jets to watch EPL games live, while some others join resources to charter planes. Some fly first class in commercial airlines, many fly business class and thousands fly economy to watch these games. If 25,000 trips are done yearly with an average of 2,000 pounds spent, that is a further 50m pounds (N24b) out of our economy to the UK.
Then there are those who do not travel but order club items online or buy directly from retailers across Nigeria. That is probably another N3b-N5b industry. Then add the billions some of our brands spend to bring us the games. Some even sign direct sponsorship contracts with EPL and other European clubs. That is likely another N5b taken out of our economy. By the time you add the UEFA Champions League spend for rights, advertising and tourism, we would be way over N50b. This is a joke, and it is why we are seen as a basket case around the world. Chances are that of every N100 we make in Nigeria, N70 finds its way overseas under different guises, football being just one of them.
No nation can survive, let alone prosper, that way. How does it make sense that Arsenal FC of London has more fans in Lagos than in the entire UK?! How does it make sense that outside London, Third-World Lagos is the city where the most Arsenal jerseys are sold – not wealthy cities like Tokyo, Shanghai, New York, Berlin?! How does it make sense that fans die in Nigeria defending the honour of their foreign clubs?!
If we continue to invest in other people and economies and not our own, we will continue to be poor however much we pray and whoever the leaders we elect into public office. Just to underline the poverty in our minds, China currently pays just 13m pounds to watch the EPL. For some perspective, sub-saharan Africa is the poorest region in the world, while China is the second largest economy in the world. The Chinese also love football and have a larger population than the entire Africa, yet they pay six times less to watch the EPL than us in sub-saharan Africa.
Of all the sponsors perpetuating the European game in Nigeria, the ones I find most frustrating are the banks. Banks are supposed to understand the way money works, but sub-saharan banks appear a different breed. Around the world banks are leading sponsors of domestic sports, it makes easy sense. All the money generated from sports ends up in banks. When people travel around the country, when lawyers negotiate business deals for clubs and players, when architects and builders upgrade infrastructure or build new ones, when medical practitioners manage the health of stars, when hotels accommodate visitors from other cities in town to support their clubs or favourite stars, when farmers increase sales to food vendors as fans celebrate, when retailers sell club merchandise, when advertising agencies get briefs to build sports brands, the list goes on, all the money ends up in banks.
In South Africa, for instance, ABSA bank has sponsored the Premier Soccer League for ten years, and recently signed a five-year extension of the contract. In Nigeria, rather than build our local sports, our banks splash the scarce resources they (we) have on the European game, under the guise that they are reaching more eyeballs. As I have asked many times here, are they not aware that many of the eyeballs in Nigeria have lost their jobs, or had their salaries slashed, or have not been paid for months, meaning many cannot even take action if they find the advertisers’ proposition interesting?
One day we will wise up to how the world really works. Meanwhile high fives to the League Management Company for keeping the league running even in the face of scant sponsorship. They must however engage society more to succeed. They must also work more with key professional bodies to help sell the message that football is a multi-billion naira industry from which every professional benefits handsomely.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2018/01/13/how-can-we-be-so-myopic-where-are-the-sponsors-as-the-npfl-resumes/#

What's there in the championship to learn from? Apart from the physicality, what else? Football has moved away from power play, it's now about technicality and talents. He's better off in benfica than any of those championship sides.

As for moving to the EPL, he can do that from Benfica or any other clubs outside UK as long as he becomes better. We have had players moving easily from other leagues straight into the EPL so no need going to the championships to lose some of his best attributes, sensible run ins and outs.

komekn:
100% this is the business model that Benfica, Porto and Sporting have had for years.

Just when you are dealing with them watch the buy out clause. I do feel that his pace will give him an edge in that league.

Nonetheless. I feel if he could overcome the physicality of the championship he could be in for a much bigger money move to the EPL.

Which is best difficult because I don't know how sincere Benfica is.

Yea right. He dissected football movements on the pitch and why players should even move. Imagine saying a player must know why he's coming for the ball, why he's where he is and why he's into space. Xavi is suppose to have PHd in football matters on the pitch. So deep.

TheGoodJoe:
I think the most remarkable part of the article was how he took time to break the space-time philosophy, especially with the full backs moving into the midfield and creating passing lines. It will take time for that to sink in but the idea that it all falls down to space-time, makes it interesting.

Meen this article/interview exposed alot about the man called pep. That guy good meen.

But Xavi understands football o. What he released can be termed a thesis. Wow.. see depth.

This guy will surely become a coach. A good one at that.

AllforJesus7:
Those who comprehend the above will get to appreciate thegoodjoehunt's concerns about Nacho leaving Pep.

Ekiti can never be among south west states being talked about infrastructure wise.

Useless village of a state!

Has he returned back to football?

BluntBoy:
I think Rohr should give Ambrose Vanzekin who was in goal for Nigeria at the 2005 FIFA U-20 and 2008 Olympics a chance.

The guy plies his trade at Warri Wolves. He is a great goalkeeper with a lot of confidence and experience. He has been up against Messi and Aguero twice.

See s everywhere dirty, because the streets got flooded doesn't mean we should be seeing dirt's everywhere.

Na so dem dirty for that city?

komekn:
Just the same way there is absolutely nothing we do not know about Messi. However, that hasn't helped anybody trying to stop him.

Food for thought.

That's just the plain truth. Argentina aren't really a team that spring surprises, we just need to play very well to beat them. The underdog called Iceland is my main worry. Croatia is a team we are almost at per with, so tact's and strength should determine who wins between us and them.

Same here, there is nothing we need to know about Argentina again that we don't know unlike the other 2 Europeans, we need to take them more seriously than Argentina.

BascoVanVeli:
I personally think a European team would be best to prepare us for Argentina. They are more like Belgium than Brazil.

Dang..so sad, but I believe all he needs is media attention and he'll be back to his feet again in no time. There is money in this country, just be popular and you will get help on time.

tbaba1234:
Tragic story, Wilson Oruma was defrauded of 1.2 billion and has suffered a relapse of an emotional breakdown.

You don't know this because he and the players alone can decide that. If expartiates can come work in Nigeria, why not football players? It's all about the money.

tbaba1234:
And my point was that there is no incentive for the players to come..

But what is the sense in Iceland playing Indonesia and do we have any fifa free window that allow some countries play friendlies?

But is our argument about him paying them same or higher salaries?

I started by saying he should work towards bringing some of the players from Feirense to Remo stars if they make it back to the NPFL, but you resorted by saying it can't be done in Nigeria cos no Nigerian club can pay them and went ahead talking about other negative stuff.

The point is that he can sign any player he wants and will pay them well too because he can. Will the players come? I don't know, but can he pay them more than $500 or whatever he's currently paying them in Feirense? YES!

tbaba1234:
You are missing the point. A player earning 500 dollars a week in portugal will not come to Nigeria and earn the same amount. He will only do so if his pay is increased significantly. That is the only incentive that you can offer them to come.

This means the club owner will have to increase his wage bill if he wants to bring players here. Players that will not be worth that much in portugal.

He can pay them if it makes business sense to him!

Meaning people should stop ethnitizing this killings, didn't start because Buhari is president as some myopic people are insuating, same with political jobbers.


What we need now after setting the records straight is beef up security, set up security posts in all LGAs within the vulnerable states, let the security post be made up of few federal security men and more of indigenes.

They must be armed too and all unknown faces must be interrogated before being allowed to operate in the LGAs.

Wether they will come or not is not the issue here, the issue is : 'Can he pay foreign players'?. If he can own that club, then he can pay them or is he not already paying them there?

Willing to come is another issue entirely, not this "we can't pay them excuse" you gave at first.

tbaba1234:
So He owns both clubs, does that mean that the players will be willing to play in Nigeria?

The owner of a club does not determine a player's decision. There is no incentive to play in Nigeria if it is not financially rewarding at the very least because it does not do anything for their career.

He's capable of paying them in Nigeria if he's already doing that in Portugal!

Your argument self, I no understand.

Incentives? Some of them are even 30 years old.. incentives ke.

Seems you skipped where I said he owns both clubs so most of what you're saying wouldn't count here.

tbaba1234:
What is the incentive of playing in Nigeria? Would it improve their career prospects? Would it improve their playing ability? At least from Feirense, they can join a better side, they have more visibility.

Also if you want them, you will not be paying the same as Feirense. You will pay much more for them to even consider it.

For Instance, Players go to China because they will earn far more than in Europe. This makes up for whatever shortcomings the chinese league might have in terms of quality.

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Since both are his clubs, that shouldn't be that hard.

tbaba1234:
Signing them is even more unlikely.

Alampasu that is €90k is even more expensive than about 2-3 of their (oyinbo) players which are around €45, €60k and €68k.

How much can those ones be receiving as salary?

The list our NPFL players have been sold can't be less than €100k, yet you think otherwise.

Go and check the value of some of our players that left the NPFL, check the prices they bought them.

I said him bringing them to play for Remo stars since he owns Feirense too (major share). Not on loan but SIGNING them!

tbaba1234:
You talked about Feirense players coming on loan to Remo Stars because they share the same owner. I am saying, it is not attractive for the players.

I never asked anyone to come on loan, kindly quote where I said so. I was clear with my assertions.

tbaba1234:
As big as Santos or as unknown as Feirense.. None will be coming to Nigeria on loan, all things being equal.

Until we can make our league attractive enough, we will only get player of considerably lower standards looking for a pay check.

Why Santos again? Lol oga Santos is a huge club for God's sake lol. This your comparison get comma o.

tbaba1234:
Nigerians go on trial because Europeans do not trust the quality of our league. If the Nigerian league was highly rated, there will be direct transfers and less trials. That said, players from francophone countries often get direct transfers to clubs in France without trials. A Santos player coming to Nigeria will not be coming on trial.

If these guys were any good, Ifeanyi Ubah would have clinched the league. You can barely find the history of these players anywhere. If they were playing at a decent level, you will easily find where they were playing in Brazil. Strangely enough, you do not even find Nigerian news outlet with that info.

They just came up from div 2 last season so it's not like they are one big club. You got my point I believe, we don't need over flogging this boss.

tbaba1234:
Feirense is playing in the top flight of Portugal... Any player playing in the top flight of a decent league will not be coming here on trial unless they are about to retire and were offered ridiculous amounts of money. It is not a realistic expectation to expect a player from Feirense to come down and play in Remo stars unless we massively improve our league.

It is a positive thing that they bring crowds.

Spanish teams don't owe sir and though they don't pay that much except the main league but don't owe because the league is more about entertainment, politics, bragging rights than money/business like the EPL.

komekn:
Now you are saying something that isn't openly talked about but gives the EPL and the Championship more credence than the a lot of other leagues.

The Portuguese league and Spanish league system as big as they are once you leave the first tier they begin to pay peanuts.

Then a lot of these clubs fail to pay thier players to add insult to Injury.

Some clubs have theirs in the market, maybe not wiki.

I know of about 8 NPFL clubs already in the market

cheapgoals:
very nice.. but i bet you won't see the replica in market.. some other issue NPFL needs to fix for we fans

How did you arrive at that? Nigerians and other foreigners players (Africans) go abroad and are still made to go through trials even if they have played in their own main league before so same can be said of these guys or does div 2/3 not count as professional?

tbaba1234:
Meaning they had no professional career before coming to Nigeria. Its is not just about nationality, it is also about ability.

Would a Brazilian playing in Santos for instance come to Nigeria? There is no incentive. A player that is playing top-flight football would not come to Nigeria on loan and deal with all the inefficiencies in our league.

You can get low quality players from anywhere to play in Nigeria but it adds nothing to the league.

Why are you comparing Santos to Feirense? We are talking about signing players from Feirense which is an unknown club in Portugal with no history, you're talking about Santos that breeds superstars including neymar. Club that plays in FIFA club cup. Haba!

You might call foreigners that plays in Nigeria low level players but they actually bring crowds to the stadiums and grows followership too.

https://www.sportlineng.com/2017/04/07/top-foreign-players-nigeria-professional-football-league/

Very possible.

BascoVanVeli:
We have a lot of guys from West Africa in our league. The league needs to do more in order to promote those guys because that is what will bring even more guys into our league. Well I don't see it as far fetched, Enyimba and Kano pillars could do something like this if they wanted.

Do you know that the 6 Brazilians came for trials in Nigeria, same with the coaches?

http://www.pulse.ng/sports/ifeanyi-uba-fc-6-brazilians-players-2-coaches-in-nigeria-for-trials-with-club-id4585409.html

tbaba1234:
Abegi, the same teams that hardly make a dent on the continent... Let us show that we can compete in Africa first.

There is no incentive for a Portuguese player to play in Nigeria unless a low quality player that is looking for money.

Well we have had serbians, Brazilians and other foreigners in this same league before even when the league wasn't as improved as what we have now.

BascoVanVeli:
I doubt the players would want to come. If they do it would be tough for them no lie.

Oga, we are talking about FC ferense here with no history or anything to write home about from a league that doesn't really have money. There are players there not even known or paid up to $500 per month.

Do you even know that some clubs in Italy pay players $500 per month (div 2/3).

Do you know that some clubs in Romania and Russia couldn't pay some of their players and were owing for months? You think owing is only peculiar to African or Nigerian league?

Humility017:
how much are they going to be paid?
you think a European player will take this peanuts we pay down here....?
and likewise embark on risky road journeys to go draw away match?
and sometimes they may get beaten or kidnapped...

the guys seems not to understand the low nature of Nigeria league...the league seriously need revival

Did you watch the friendlies that happened at Abuja between Nigerian clubsides and some English EPL clubs?

Ubah still has about 2 Brazilians there.
The owner of Remo starts is also a part owner of FC ferense so he can easily bring some of the players not seeing actions to the club to prop up the market value of Remo starts and also bring crowd/followership.

And I repeat, FC ferense won't beat the mentioned names!

tbaba1234:
Ifeanyi Ubah is self-sponsored by a billionaire. Those Brazilians came for money which Ubah was willing and they have all left. I can guarantee that those guys did not play in the Brazilian top division. Average Brazilian players that are no better than what is already in Nigeria, is that what we are proud about.

Feirense is in the Portuguese top flight. Feirense will beat all those teams you mentioned, convincingly. Is it not the same Rangers that was getting whooped by a Sudanese team.

Stop overrating the NPFL.

http://venturesafrica.com/nigerian-businessman-kunle-somane-is-the-first-nigerian-to-own-a-european-football-club/