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This is an assumption, until then you can't say.

junnyjake:
He can only go that far with small relegation-threatened-teams with kids as players.


He'd fail woefully at an higher level when he's asked to manage mature world class players if he doesn't change his attitude.

I wish him well though.

Sunday Rotimi, one of the best hands in the league. Too bad he's very old now.

Kog45:
Sunday Rotimi the old horse,very solid goalkeeper that politics of the game denied him the opportunity to compete with Enyeama.

Alloy should just forget sentiments cos the league still boast of keepers like Dele Ajiboye, Theophilus Afelokhai, Olufemi Thomas, Danladi and Olorunleke Ojo.

But it's working for him and it's his style.

junnyjake:
There's nothing about black man mentality there.

Oliseh as a person is a narcissistic personality. He wants to always be in control, which is why he'd rather have young players he knows won't challenge his decisions.

He gathered the so called "experience" when he was picked ahead of better keeper by alloy.

forgiveness:
What national experience those Ezenwa has?

Alloy Agu is the main issue here, ignored good goal keepers for Ezenwa.

Even the old Sunday rotimi is better than Ezenwa.

we also have Femi thomas
Ajiboye

Danladi
Theophilus.

All better goal keepers than Ezenwa

junnyjake:
You know what's paining me more? This same Ezenwa would be blocking Ajiboye's chances at the CHAN come January.

Ezenwa can't dislodge Theophilus except politics gets in.

Kog45:
Dauda has left Enyimba for one of Ghanian clubside,now Ezenwa has Theophilus Afelokhai to compete.

Didn't even know Dauda left.

But he's using that same "black man mentality" in Holland and getting results. I hope you know he repeated the same actions he carried out as the SE coach in Fortuna? That's just who he is, likes things go his way, a bit similar to pep, difference is that Pep does his codedly unlike the vocal oliseh.

Questence:
Oliseh is actually a good coach but his man management is poor.

He almost ruined the SE. Imagine sacking Mikel and using Paul Onobi in his place. Where is the Paul Onobi today?

Same way he sacked Enyeama who was bereaved and just fresh from burying his parent

The Black man has a long way to go. Our ego breeds negative energy instead of positive results.

Theophilus is even better than Ezenwa and Dauda (Ghana's FC) is Enyimba number 1 so I'm wondering how he's going to be playing regularly there.

tbaba1234:
If Ezenwa makes the kinds of mistakes, he made against Algeria in the WC. We will chop one heavy defeat .

Ezenwa is 29/30, what Super Eagles future does he have?

Ezenwa just signed for Enyimba who have Afelokhai and Dauda, so there is no guarantee he will be number 1 there.

Uzoho should be exposed in the friendlies, let's get him mentally and physically ready just in case. He is the future.

Prior to 2002 worldcup, Enyeama was already playing first team football and his club was hot then (Enyimba) doing exploit in the league and also Africa. Which of the small boys play first team football or even competitive one at that?

safarigirl:
and if he can't?

You are not saying anything different....if Enyeama does not sort out his club issues, WHAT NEXT?

You are talking as if I said we should carry Uzoho as first choice

BTW, World Cup is not for kids, how old was Enyeama when he kept at his first World Cup?

We have at least 5 GKs in the NPFL I KNOW and alot know are better than Ezenwa so how did Ezenwa get the nod ahead of them all in the league?

safarigirl:
na condition make crayfish bend.

If Ezenwa was up to it, we would not be discussing any of those three, would we?

All these IFs no mean anything. The fact on ground is that we are having a crisis in the goalie area and anyone playing regularly should be ranked highly.

We just need a goalie that plays well and right now Uzoho is ahead of Alamps because:

1) He plays regularly

2) He had a comparatively better debut

Uzoho and Alampasu are dragging one spot as far as I am concerned...Maduka is not even in the mix

Are we saying Ezenwa is the best in the NPFL? Why haven't they searched inwards for better Go or is this deliberate? Pick the not for good from the league so as to make the league look useless?

Kog45:
My man it's a pity that we have to go for keepers keeping in division 3 and regional league in Europe for super eagles,no thank to Ikeme health and lack of class in Akpeyi and Ezenwa,if not we will not be discussing who is better among the trio who are keeping in team B in their various clubs.

Oh my God,Uzoho playing regularly in division 3 is now a thing of joy abi and Maduka keeping with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B is now a pride for our national team,also Alampasu a bench warmer,honestly Akpeyi and Ezenwa really fall my hand.

Let me ask you this,if Uzoho find himself in Deportivo main team back as second keeper and always on the bench would you pick Maduka ahead of him due to his playing time in regional league with Fortuna Dusseldorf team B cos you are rating the same Maduka ahead of Alampasu now,this is a guy nobody mentioned here but now a beautiful bride just like the way some guys were defending Nwakili invitation whereas we have better performing midfielder in the same Norwegian league.

Even if Nigeria is heaven, people go still waka because it's human nature to want to migrate. We don't migrate as much as Indians, Brazilians, Chinese etc

Jochabed:
If only Nigeria was in order,all this trash will have been avoided.

Yes it's good to be underated when going to a big tournament. FIFA already did their worst by grouping us in pot 4, let crots and Iceland continue until they both receive 2:1 and 3:1 bashing come 2018.

You can see that the Argentines have learnt their lessons and aren't fumbling up and down. They have never convincingly beaten us and with that last friendly, they are more matured of the lot not to underate us.

safarigirl:
he must think we are fielding the same players from 2014 like they are doing.

We won Cameroon 4-0 recently as well, so, such judgment is erroneous....but they should keep up with it

Were they not the country that beat Cameroon in Brazil? I mean with song getting a red card out of frustration? Maybe he's judging with the 2014 world cup performance.

Napoleon55:
probably the last time this dude watched an African team was at Italia '90,Cameroon vs Brazil or so,and for him that's his yardstick for all African team,including NIGERIA,i wish their coach will have this kind of mindset going for the game

I don even no what to say there.. infact right now my head is not analyzing.

HZwriters:
what do you think of Senegal's group?

The croats dey fear me pass
Followed by Iceland

Why?

We haven't played them

This morroco can beat Portugal but Spain I don't know.

Iran isn't soft either, very defensive and good with counter attack.

solonnachi:
Morocco will find it difficult with Portugal and Spain.

You skipped my questions.

You need money to pay your tithe and you are asking me? Haven't you bribed "God" via tithe, shouldn't money fall from the sky for you just as it's falling from the sky for Mark, Dangote, gates, slim, buffet, Ibrahimovic, all the rich dudes in the Arab world and the rich ones in pagan countries in Asia?

buchibrand:
What threat? No threat oh, it was my candid advice. When a prophet is declaring the word of God, hes only telling you exactly what God is saying; prophets are oracle/mouthpiece of God.

Please if you need a blogger blog or template or you know someone who will need one, just contact me on my siggy, please i need money so i can pay my tithe.

No, God doesn't need your money, he doesn't eat money.
The only way you can give money to God is when you give to the fatherless, windows, widowers, motherless, orphans, helpless, needy, homeless, strangers (those that can't refund you) without anyone knowing about it.

That was what Jesus taught his disciples a bout giving. Giving without compulsion unlike tithe that you are enticed or threatened with devourer if you don't want to pay.

Matthew 25:25-40
2 Corinthians 9:7
Luke 6 vs 35:36

gare:
So if you're a Bible scholar, what's is your issue with tithing, my brother you need deliverance, what portion of the Bible do you want me to quote that you have not quoted, is it a Bible Quotation competition, since you understand the Bible so well and don't want to pay your tithe it is well with you.

Let's discuss the issue and talk less about ourselves. Let our fruits talk for us.

No, God doesn't need your money, he doesn't eat money.
The only way you can give money to God is when you give to the fatherless, windows, widowers, motherless, orphans, helpless, needy, homeless, strangers (those that can't refund you) without anyone knowing about it.

That was what Jesus taught his disciples a bout giving. Giving without compulsion unlike tithe that you are enticed or threatened with devourer if you don't want to pay.

Matthew 25:25-40
2 Corinthians 9:7
Luke 6 vs 35:36[quote author=gare post=62885999][/quote]

2 questions for you.

Did Jesus, his disciples or any of the early Christians pay tithe?

Secondly, do we still levites? Infact do we have levites in Nigeria?

ooshinibos:
I disagree with you , Jesus did not say people should not pay tithe , this is very clear . Tithing did not happen under the law . as I said before ,tithing is not for everyone and its optional under the grace we have now , you should focus on your country men that have abused the sacred offering of tithing ..
As per tithing in the new testament it was not mentioned in the Bible ( except in the book of Hebrew ) , , I believe if tithing was made a law in the new testament ,it will limit people , people gave more than 10 percent in the early Christians days , lets not get stuck on the word tithe , it means 10 percent of you income , early Christian gave more than 10 percent exceeding the law sef ( some gave lands and houses to the church , that's why flourished my than the modern day Christians and no one was poor , I believe Christian of nowadays should give more than 10 percent , again it should be optional ..our of your heart not by compulsion ..

buchibrand:
You have a wonderful point here sir, but please read Malachi 3:9. God was referring to his priests in Chapter 2, condemning them for not warning His people, but 3:8 and below was referring to the Whole Nation V9. Please if you are a bible believer becareful in what you pass across, so that you don't turn the hearts of the little ones away from God.

Okay but some of you are actually the ones passing wrong teachings across. Malachi was a prophet sent by God to the children of Israel but he was mostly there to warn the leaders and the priest. Malachi 3 is a continuation of Malachi 2. Please read with an empty heart/mind. Read like you are just trying to know what Malachi came for.

Apart from Malachi, I hope you know who a levite is and what qualifies one to be a levite?

I also hope you know the priests are also levites but don't take tithe directly from the people rather other levites bring 1/10th to the priest solely for burnt offerings (attornment of sin) and storing the temple (for meat/food purposes)?

God have mercy on the blind.

Is this all you can say? I thought you were going to use the bible to counter me and show me the way? Freeze didn't teach me all these, the bible did, what I explained is in the Bible not from freezes mouth.

Are you truly a bible believing Christian? Do you truly read your bible?

May the knowledge of his word not depart from us finally!

gare:
Because you don't want want to pay tithe you're now a member of freeze school of thoughts, those are lifted write up for freeze, well I am not stopping you, you're free to do whatever you want to do, moreover it's not every believer that pays tithe, so since your understanding has told you not to pay tithe well and fine . I can't force you and so is your pastor, or have heard any pastor forcing his members to pay tithe.

But my only concern is not about the message but the messenger, if any man of God stands on the pulpit to preach this message I will understand, maybe as directed by the holy spirit, not someone that is not in the right standing with God tell me about tithe.

Mind you, your not paying tithe doesn't mean you are not in right standing with God.

How do you know he's not the right person to preach the word? Because he's not wearing suit and doesn't own a church? Once he puts on a suit and open a church, you will then take him serious?

You think he's more sinful than you or the pastors attacking him for pointing people to be bible?

Is suleman more Christian than freeze?
Adeboye more of Christian than freeze?
Oyakhilomen, okotie, oritstejafor, oyedepo, ibiyome more Christian than freeze because?

ooshinibos:
OK .I will mention only 3 for now , not to prolong the issue
Malachi 3 :11 -benefits of the tithe
Mathew 23:23 -Jesus endorsing the tithe
Hebrew 7 , 1-21 - the new testament explanation of Jesus being a high priest in the order of Melchizedeck

honestly , I understand what Daddy freeze is saying , but he should not be against the tithe or tithing itself .. he should stress the abuse the Nigerian pastors have done with the tithe .. tithing is scriptural but it is also optional ,

Jesus didn't endorse tithe, rather he used it to rebuke the hypocrites (Pharisees and saducees), he said they are always good at paying tithe but ignoring the important aspects of the law (love, care, forgiveness etc). During that time, Jesus was yet to be killed, yet to resurrect, his death transformed all that for Christians. Before then, there were no Christians, so except you're claiming to be a Jew, I don't see why you should be basing your belief on an old Jewish practice which is no longer pracized by the Jews. (Prefer to my previous post above for details).

Abraham didn't pay tithe, what he did was a one off payment from the spoils of war, please go to your old testament to read that aspect. He gave 1/10th of the spoils of war to the king of Salem, not from his own property! That is not tithing! Tithing lessons can be found in leveticus 25. Numbers 18 and deut 14. Those are the books that laid down how tithing was ptacized then.

Malachi 3:10 wasn't talking to you, it was talking to the priests, read the preceeding chapter to understand Malachi 3. Read Malachi 2!

May the truth finds it's way into us.

Paying tithe and trying to gain God's favor through it "devalues" the death of Christ and the freedom it brought along. His death was a fulfillment of the law and no Christian not even Jesus paid tithe in the new testaments.

Show us one verse where any of the early Christians pay tithe, what they did was sharing all that they had amongst themselves. Read acts and also Galatians. Ephicians and collosians can help you understand the practise of the Early Christians.

Be like them and stop trying to be like the old Jew (the Pharisees and the saducees)

You should be the one taking your own advise ma.

For your edification, kindly read Lev 25 to know who tithe was for, numbers 18 for the types of tithes and deut 14 for how it's to be administered.

Lastly, you should also know that Christians aren't meant to pay tithe because we operate under the grace the death of Christ brought to us and no longer need tithe or offerings to gain blessings and forgiveness of sins from God via a third party called the 'priests'.

Giving as Christians is now to be willingly and without compulsion according to the teachings of Christ. Giving without expecting a reward, giving to those who truly need it without showmanship.
Christ is now our mediator and has paid the ultimate price for sins and access to God.

Even the Jews no longer pay tithe because the temple has been destroyed, you can no longer find the temple in Jerusalem and we no longer have pure levites (those who were born, live, serve and die in the temple for the service of priesthood) on earth nor in Jerusalem. Levites live and die inside the temple and owns no property anywhere on earth! Do we have any priest like that currently?

gare:
Then if you're trying to be one, you don't need to listen to freeze rather study your Bible.

Shuush, what makes you a Christian? Who is the "we" as Christian? Do you mean the gullible ones or the true follower of Christ which I'm trying to be?

gare:
Freeze has no moral justification to tell us what we as Christians are to do, majority of his supporters do not even know the road to a church, we as Christians are not complaining about the tithe issue what is your problem?

Why can't you guys just allow the church to be.

Quote the scriptures here let's deliberate on them

ooshinibos:
listen to the whole sermon , he mention more than 5 scriptures to back his claim

Sorry o but whatdid he say in the video?

ooshinibos:
Thank you my bro , daddy freeze should watch it if he needs clarity

None has proven him wrong with the bible.

The truth can't be hidden.

My choise:

Poland
Mexico
Iran
Nigeria

Read back, you'll understand

mazimee:
Who is He? Kedu ife okacha eme?

Alloy Agu

mazimee:
Lol, I never knew He had strong competitors (still have ) at club level all this while. How did He manage all that?