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Hello

Do you still have this in store?

n3xt:
You have his quote and the date is on it. You can check the project thread to correlate it with event happening on the project and what his estimates covered.

Point of correction, we do not need electrical conduit pipes during foundation stage.

You're a time waster.

Go and gather my refund offline because that's what matters.

Amastermovic:
Local man cannot enjoy this thread unlike before..

contractor kindly stop posting until you refund your client and stop dragging back and forth its already established you owe him .

No one will be happy seeing you post when u owe dem and throwing shades now..

And for the client kindly note that dragging him up and down wont stop anyone from engaging him same way you did despite the warning from one user last year..

To the contractor fear God some client may not drag you legally kindly switch operations to real estate sale. Not easy to be a concept designer, building engr, and project manager at a GO ,

I understand u love to try different concept do that on personal build

People were no longer dragging him when I contracted him which was 6 years later.

I choose to do it different this time around.

Greenarrow01:
No no no
The circle can't continue online
You know why.
You can decide to reply all his post with a caption

Be wary of this contractor. With a link to egunmogajis thread.
This way potential clients are totally responsible for what they are going into.

But back and forth is polluting the thread.
I hope you understand.


Secondly on the efcc issue.
Those guys are damn slow.
Especially when your money is not in the hundreds of millions.

I was saying it took you ages to make meaningful effor.
When you were posting dot dot dot on next thread
I thought you were a spammer.
It took you months to do something tangible on him.

I have nothing against you sir.
I only dislike having to read all these post over and over and over and over again

Yes, those dots were for a purpose then.

When I no longer have business with him, I will revisit some of your suggestions.

Thanks

Greenarrow01:
I have never denied the fact that he had issues with your project.
My anger has always been in the fact that you dragged your feet for months.
You didn't take any meaningful step that we are aware of to retrieve your money, then you and the other guys are on here along with next spoiling this beautiful thread.

Do you know the headache of scolling through 3 to 4 pages trying to sieve meaningful post ?
And all what I keep posting here then was that
All your online rants won't bring your money out, you are not the first victim of next.
But efforts offline with whatever legit means possible will save us the headache of constantly reading back and forth post.

Lastly.
You are equally at fault here.
You might not agree with me
But you are equally at fault.

If you are eating with the devil
You have to use long spoon.
Paying upfront for everything with someone with a questionable past is a big error on your part.

2. All those months you were posting dots on that thread
You should have instead come here to "kigbe SITA"
Your built and morning might have been saved.
3. Lastly you are too gentle on things like this.
On your future builds.
If you don't behave like a werey.
People will still want to ride you.

You're assuming that I didn't/aren't take(n) any meaningful steps even though I some weeks ago posted an EFCC screenshot or how did you come to this conclusion?

If everything is left offline, the circle continues here online.

Greenarrow01:
There is no way you are going to.twist this.

Next failed to redeem his image with somehow project.
He failed totally in all areas.

All these back and forth is just constituting nuisance on this thread.
He should either pay up as soon as possible or somehow stops dragging feet with whatever he is planning

I hope you're now coming to terms now that he keeps exposing himself.

I have told you that as long as he's posting on this thread any form of advertisement, I won't sit back, I will remind the house again and whoever doesn't like me dragging him here should either unfollow the thread or just mind his or her business.

Met him here and will keep the online dragging on.

I chose not to expose him then with the hope that he was going to amend his ways, but he came here boasting and lying about the whole project.

Now I believe those saying you have some severe psychological issues.

This is so irritating.

n3xt:
You can pretend you didn’t know you asked me to tell Topsy23 to send his quote for Electrical Work of the house and also received the same quote and turned it down.

@Topsy23 sorry for the mention. I do not intend to bring your name up in this.

What kind of madness is this?
was Topsy23 for conduit piping or for the complete wiring of the building?

I repeat again, what kind of sickness are you suffering from that you just love to lie even to yourself?

When did you contact Topsy23 and when did you buy/use the pipes for the conduits? (For the foundation and 1st floor decking).

What is Topsy23's business with conduits pipes you quoted for within the carcass quotation?

twinskenny:
you are on site . The sub contractor brought cheap bad materials you didn't reject it? Knowing fully well the blame will be on you?

As a matter of fact, he got all these vendors himself down to cement etc. So I should leave him the contactor I employed to be chasing vendors he sourced for, paid my money to deliver materials to him to do a good job he was contracted to do?

How low can one go?

I want to stop here because I can see this is another waste of time.


Message remain : You won't get any new victim on this thread as long as I remain on your case.

New builders, beware!

n3xt:
I still have people I report to on site. Check and balances on project of that scale is normal.

Who were the people you reported to on site?

Post evidence, u no fit, na to dey dribble yourself up and down wasting people's time with your idleness.

n3xt:
Exactly my point.

The whole carcass was on NextHome until you requested for an option quote for the electrical works while we were preparing for the first floor slab.

It makes me wonder why we need another quote when the contractor has already made provision for it. But the client is always right!

Stop wasting our time.

Post evidence to this effect.

bixton:
The so called supervisor on the client's payroll if I get it right was brought by you and be it the client pays directly to him or indirectly through you then......

If that's the case then you are also responsible for whatever issues that is being dragged here with respect to the pipe blockage and substandard use of same.

Bosun was paid as the contractor and also paid supervision fees.

Let him prove that he didn't charge supervision fees.

n3xt:
Approved subcontractor with the lowest bid from the shortlisted subcontractors we contacted amidst the contract. We send those we can the MEP plan and invited those who can come to visit site.

.

A simple question.

Post evidence to this effect including the names of the subcontractors that we shortlisted for the conduit piping before the contract was signed.

n3xt:
I’ve moved baba.

I’m not going to drag someone who’s having a great time into your baseless accusation.

A simple question of “Why was there a need for option quotes on electrical pipe work during the project when you already have a contract covering everything in place?” You can’t provide answer.

You started tagging people up and down. Talking about wiring when we were discussing conduit pipe work.

I know lies when I see one. I know deflection when I smell one.

You WIN

Says an engineer handling many building projects in his dreams.

bixton:
With regard to pipes been blocked......I guess it's the decking pipes
(1)Who was on site doing supervision of the casting of the decking slab.........
(2) What the man who did the piping also available when the decking was receiving cement.......

Modified..
Cc..n3xt

Bosun handled it as the supervisor and as the contractor paid for as part of the carcass contract.

The issue is not a seperate matter, its part of what makes up the carcass contract.

n3xt:
You can’t establish your allegations with irrefutable facts.

It’s a shame. I’ll pay you off soon.

You have not posted what you claimed as evidence, yet you're talking about irrefutable facts, what do we call this?

Your issue is psychological apart from behavioural.

Hopefully I get all my refund within 1 month

n3xt:
All evidence proved you wrong sir.

The timing and the content of the quotes received proved you wrong.

I think you should share the quote you got and the date on it and explain to us why correlates with exactly the time we were getting ready to do the first floor slab.

I don’t make up stories. I deal in facts.

I know you love to drag issues.

Kindly post screenshots of our chat showing someone else handled conduit piping during foundation /1st floor decking or any other chat showing we negotiated what you should use in this regard.

In the absence of this, I will Leave you in the court of public opinion.

My messages to those reading is that, guard your purse jealousy and do not be tempted by long epistles + enticing pictures, in reality, they are audio and you will end up leaking your wounds.

n3xt:
Yes it’s part of the Contract.
That’s why I’m wondering why you had to request for another quote amidst the contract for electrical pipe works.
It wasn’t as if we negotiated each stage of work separately. It was a turnkey project.



I never had to review my contract with you but you came with option quotes for the electrical pipe works and chose the least bid submitted by the subcontractors contacted.



The job was awarded to the contractor with the least bid.



Am I supposed to sound stupid?



Noted but I’m not the one who had to review a quote vetted by a QS amidst a project and chose to accept the least bid.



I rest.

The quotes I asked for was not for conduit piping, rather for the complete wiring of the house.

No one was given any contract aside you to handle the conduit pipes you used during foundation and top floor decking because they were part of the carcass contract and was never for once discussed.

Do not try to be clever by half.

The contract I gave Twinskenny is for the wiring of the house which is not part of the carcass contract or does carcass come with wiring too?

You have tried your best to confuse everyone but Bosun, if I get person time, e go red you.

So quit beating around the bush.

The house should spot the difference.

Conduit piping

And

The normal MEP.

The former is what I have issues with which was handled solely by Bosun and as part of the total carcass package.

The normal MEP is the one I gave to Twinskenny which in the process discovered that the pipes used during conduit piping were mostly inferior and blocked/wasted as seen in the link posted by @itsrm.

Do not let him confuse you.

n3xt:
At least the contractor has stated what his scope covered.
Why was there a need for an option quote on electrical pipe work amidst the contract? To achieve what exactly?

Simple question.

You're blabbing and everyone can see to this.

Was conduit piping not part of the carcass?

Yẹs or no?

If yes, did we negotiate specially for conduit piping?

If no, who then did I send to handle the conduit piping while you were on the job?

I know you're trying very hard to sound smart by muddling the waters.

The public should carefully watch your gimmicks.


E go red for you on this thread.

n3xt:
Let me make it easier.

Why did you accept option quotes for electrical pipe work on the contract?

What exactly are you trying not to say?

The you I know would have posted chats of me asking you to use substandard pipes.

So kindly tell and show the house where I negotiated conduit pipes with you.

n3xt:
So long it rock your boat sir. Kindly find time to attend to my last message sir.

Message where?

n3xt:
Bros, I said you get what you paid for.

Stop digressing.

True or False?

We got a premium quote from a well known MEP expert here and you said it’s nonsense and got other cheaper quotes.

When did you and I negotiate price for conduit pipes?

Was it Twinskenny that helped you fix conduit pipes or did he buy them for you?

What concerns "well known MEP experts" with what was paid to you as part of the carcass cost?

You're trying to muddle the waters again, a trait only Crooks use.

n3xt:
It’s not yet your turn bro. You’ll be called to come and perform when it’s your time.

Stop jumping. I’m sure you think I was talking about you. It’s not you!

I have promised to be on your case on this thread so as to save anyone from falling victim to you in the nearest future.

n3xt:
I’ve seen electrical. What about plumbing?

I believe we’ve moved on but if it won’t be an issue, I can still get an electrician to fish those pipes and get cables installed in them without worries at no cost to anyone.

Structured cabling is my major before I get into construction and I’ve worked on even far more complex situations.

Meanwhile, the client had a premium quote from top electrical contractor here (recommended by me) but chose to go with the cheapest in the market. I believe he has his own reasons

Fortunately for me, apart from steel trusses which was a variation item, the electrical work is the only part of my work that option quotes were sourced from subcontractors and picked based on clients approval.

Abi I lie?

I rest.

After seeing the electrical pipes, what did you do?
You turned around to start talking about how you helped twinskenny "solve" his own mistakes.

Typical.

So twinskenny is now a cheap vendor? Was it twinskenny that fixed the fake pipes you bought?

Plumber is not the typing type.

If you see that of plumbing, what are you going to do?

Itsrm:
The pictures have been posted before

https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2568#107528095

Thank you for taking out time to help him recollect again.

bolu1986:
You no dey accept your Mistake nawaoo. I have been to this site myself... Why don't you show us the internal work you did? Whoever that will plaster that house we have to do a lot of amendment... You only show the good areas .


According to electrician on site all the decking electrical piping has been damage cause you use inferior pipes.. same with plumbing.

Continue to defend nonsense

More than 5 people on this thread have been to the site.
He's always right, everyone else is wrong and jealous of him.

Jealous of what exactly?

Itsrm:
This is my problem with this N3xt. That the formwork was good does not mean the pipe is not bad. They are not mutually exclusive events

Simple, "I'm sorry, it was an oversight or lack of proper supervision on my part, how can we make ammends?" would have solved this.

You must not always have an excuse. It's okay to make mistakes...aah

His trademark.

Loves to deviate from the subject matter once he's beaten to his game.

n3xt:
Pictures of the pipes removed or aidonbelivit

You mean the ones posted here by the vendor @Twinskenny late last year?

Or the one I saw with my eyes on site being removed due to being substandard (blocked, broken, flattened.) by @olaleye2real?

The plumber is also on this forum and this is not my first mention of these issues on this thread.

Clients beware so your case won't be like this few months, years later.

Choose your poison wisely.

Apologist02:
Thanks for the response sir. What type of pipe will you recommend (the pipe will pass underneath an access road across the street)?

Be very careful who you seek help from.

My plumber had to replace some of the conduits pipes he used for my build, same with that of electricals.

Choose your poison properly.

twinskenny:

This can't be the finished job.