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AbuTwins:
No you are not! A Muslim believes in the God and the Prophet sent to him.

Those who believed in God and Moses during his time were Muslims.

Those who believed in God and Noah during his time and entered the ark were saved. They are Muslims.

Those who believed in Jesus during his time on earth were Muslims. Jesus was sent to Israel!

Those who believed in Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam during his time till now are Muslims! Muhammad was sent the all of mankind and jinns.

You don't believe in Muhammad but we believe in the existence of all those Prophets in the past.


You are right..A Muslim is not a Muslim till he believes the Muhammad as the prophet of this era we are while not deny other prophets in the past.

Anyone can claim anything! Even your Bible mentioned wolves in sheep's clothing!



All Prophets foretold of Muhammad salallahu alayhi wasalam! Even Jesus did!

Mention one prophet in Arabia who prophesied the coming of Muhammad.

Muhammad fathers name was Abdullah which means servant of Allah, so Allah was already worshipped in Arabia prior to the birth of Muhammad. So where there prophet of Allah in Arabia who prophesied about Allah sending the last prophet ??

Forget about the Jewish Tanakh and the christian gospels..they are not of Arabic origin..

If you can't, then am free to conclude that Muhammad NEVER existed too..

MaxInDHouse:
Ni sane person can think of hating Jesus but as for Christ 99.9999% of people will hate him.

WHY?

Jesus was a first century Jewish young man of the tribe of Judah who was hardworking as a carpenter which is the craft his foster father (Joseph) handed over to him.

Christ is the person who came out of the water after John the baptist put Jesus into the river Jordan, from that very moment the man became a totally different person no longer returning to his home or carpentry work, he began preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom that exactly is what made everyone hate him .

How do people hate a fictional character?

Michael547:
So where is Job's spirit now?

With the creator of heaven and earth, if it has completed it's mission on earth...

If not it will still be undergoing... Birth and death....reincarnation..

KnownUnknown:
Exactly, you worldview is absolute bullshit.

Says a dummy who judges based on his ignorant understanding of a text...

Michael547:
Lol....so when dies, he would continue living?

Yes...as a spirit being...

That is what he was....

He only needed the body to experience life on earth...

Michael547:
According to the Bible verse below, what did job say is the opposite of life?

He was tired of the suffering ..so he prayed for death....life is life...

Aemmyjah:
This guy de zuzu
Ur opinion or...

It is plastered all over the bible..

We are God's spirit dwelling within a body made from the dust of the earth...psalm 104:29-32

Michael547:
So your life on earth did not have a beginning? You lived in heaven before?

Yes...

Life has no begining

And no end...

We are spiritual beings having a human experience..not the other way round...

Michael547:
You are correct.....death is the opposite of life

Death is not the opposite of life..

Birth is the opposite of death...

Life is all there is....just like Time.

They are the state of your mind...

Maynman:
Did he created everything in 2, birth and death?

Depends on where your looking from

KnownUnknown:
Nonsense.

Eggxactly

Maynman:
If he created everything in 2, birth and death, how did man forfeit chance to dwell indefinitely on earth?

By eating of the tree of good and evil...

KnownUnknown:
Doesn’t reality contradict this stance of yours?

If there is “no birth or death” what do you call the events labeled birth and death which occur in fact?

Illusion..

MaxInDHouse:
So when your wife or son die you need not feel bad after all it's just an illusion.

Yes...why should I?
They never went anywhere...

Death is just an illusion...

A big deception...no need to fear

It was all God's plan all along...

He created everything in twos...

Birth and ....death...

The Adam and Eve story is just a recast of an old Babylonian epic about how man incurred death. How he forfeited the chance to dwell indefinitely on earth...

The serpent is one of Ninghiszida or Dimuzi who where the serpent of the good and evil tress respectively..And the guard of Anu heavenly palace. They offered Adapa the food of life that would have made him immortal but he refused and Anu sent him back to earth.

He initially broke Ninlil (south wind) wings and she swore to kill him, he ran to meet EA(Enki) who told him to go to Anu who was the only one who could help, but warned him not to eat whatever was set before him. So when Ninghiszida and Dimuzi ushered him , Anu instructed them to give him the bread of life. He refused and they told him.."you will become like one of us" just like the serpent told the man in the garden...
Long story short, he lost the chance of immortality but in his case he did not eat...

Samunique:
Lair, you must be a muhammedan trying to twist the scripture as usual. This nonsense you write here I believe you learn it from Naik Naikr that Indian Islamic lying apologist. Even the Jews will slap you for saying Alma does mean a virgin.

I thought by now you would have presented your argument that leads to Jesus being the sign promised to king Ahaz...

I have been waiting ...

If you can't I think an apology would suffice...

Where do you even pull out all these ideas from...

You must have come from a long line of magicians...

All these stuff you post , none of them even or remotely makes any sense, that's why nobody wants to engage...

denko:
You dehumanize Christianity but you propose no concrete alternative. When it comes to religion Christianity is the best

It is for dummies....

Only a dummy will believe a woman can become pregnant with out a man's sperm ..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Council_of_Nicaea#:~:text=It%20met%20in%20AD%20787,III%20(717%E2%80%93741).

It was the second council of Nicea that reintroduced the use of icons...after being suppressed. Read about it...

The word “messiah” means anointed with oil. All kings, high priests, and prophets in the Jewish Bible are described as “messiahs” because they were all anointed with oil into God’s service. Many Jewish prophets foretold that a particular messiah, the Messiah ben David, would appear and fulfill six major prophecies that will lead the world into a special Messianic Era. These messianic criteria are and have always been universally accepted by the Jewish People. Jesus did not qualify as the Jewish Messiah ben David for the simple reason that he did not fulfill any of these criteria. The Messiah ben David must:
1. have the correct genealogy by being descended from King David and King Solomon,
2. be anointed King of Israel,
3. return the Jewish People to Israel,
4. rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem,
5. bring peace to the world and end all war,
6. bring knowledge of God to the world.
The bibles messiannic criteria are emperecallt verifiable. “Faith” is irrelevant to the Jewish concept of the Messiah ben David, because an individual either fulfills these prophetic criteria or he doesn’t. Christianity requires faith that Jesus is their “messiah” precisely because he didn’t fulfill any of the Jewish messianic criteria. Christianity’s concept of faith in Jesus is therefore a substitute for this defect. It is important to note that the fulfillment of each of the six Jewish messianic criteria is empirically verifiable and therefore no faith is required to determine the identity of the Jewish Messiah ben David. For example, the entire world will be able to observe that the Temple has been rebuilt, the Jews have returned to Israel, the entire world believes in God, and the world is at peace. Virtually none of the Christian messianic “proofs” are empirically verifiable.
Maimonides and the messiah ben David. Rabbi Moses ben Maimon (the Rambam) was one of the greatest rabbinic sages in Jewish history. He explained how someday we would know the identity of the Messiah ben David:
“We may assume that an individual is the Messiah [ben David] if he fulfills the following conditions: He must be a ruler, from the House of David, immersed in the Torah and its commandments like David his ancestor. He must also follow both the written and the Oral Torah, lead all Jews back to the Torah, strengthen the observance of its laws, and fight God’s battles. If one fulfills these conditions, then we may assume that he is the Messiah. If he does this successfully, and then rebuilds the Temple [Beis HaMikdash] on its original site and gathers all the dispersed Jews, then we may be certain that he is the Messiah. He will then perfect the entire world and bring all men to serve God in unity. It is true that the prophet Isaiah predicted, ‘The wolf shall live with the sheep, the leopard shall lie down with the kid.’ This however, is merely an allegory, meaning that the Jews will live safely, even with the wicked nations, who are likened to wolves and leopards.”

comodo:
It has been revealed that this Pope will come even before now. The Catholic church is d last bastion and he is the one that will be used to break it down. This is d beginning. Many will revolt against the authority of Rome.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/st-malachy-prophecy-pope-francis.amp

The last pope I'd pope Benedict xvi.
Pope Francis is an anti pope..

The peter the Roman he referred to is not a pope...
Pope Francis was only put there to stall the end time. This is all about the third secret of Fatima..They want to enthrone Lucifer ( Mary mother of Jesus as the ruler of the world) only Russia stands on their way....
The persecution of the Catholic church will soon start because they are stalling. The free masons and all other secrets societies are ready...
Book mark this post...

elated177:
Sonmvayina, let me see.

Have you gone through it?

MaxInDHouse:
The Jews have brought a great CURSE upon themselves and their yet unborn generations {Matthew 27:24-25} by trying to hide the fact that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah born by a Jewish virgin girl called Mary in the first century. Act 4:18; 5:28
Whether they like it or not Jerusalem can never have peace again like it was in the time of Solomon.
WHY?
The promised Messiah (Christ) is the Prince who will bring everlasting peace to all mankind {Isaiah 9:6} so for rejecting Jesus of Nazareth the Jews were SCATTERED throughout the earth just as Jesus of Nazareth prophesied in the Bible {Luke 11:23} and as for Jerusalem this is the verdict from God's only begotten Son:

Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings! But you did not want it. Look! Your house is abandoned to you. For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say, ‘Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah’s name" Matthew 23:37-39

Early this year they made a move to stop the mention of Jesus' name in their country passing it into law:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyBY6AybJ4M?si=vwDUxgU_KXAjuyFL

And immediately the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob gave them a sign as a crow attacked their national flag:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYHPxkLhrOo?si=sudXF7VCe6qJm9P5

That's an indisputable sign that the nation is doing what could bring God's wrath on them but they ignored that sign from the divine.

I said it on this very forum that the Jews are going into another big problem because that city (Jerusalem) was left to continue existing till today because of God's promise to faithful King David that's where all faithful Kings were buried and during resurrection they will be brought back to life on planet earth in that same place apart from that Jerusalem means nothing to God again because that's where they spilled the innocent blood of many of God's servants including the Messiah!

Jesus is the Prince of Peace so until they repent and apologize publicly declaring they are sorry for raising such opinion against the mention of the name Jesus who is the prince of peace Jerusalem can never ever know Peace! Matthew 23:38-39

You just don't want to admit to the fact that you are being lied to

Samunique:
Lair, you must be a muhammedan trying to twist the scripture as usual. This nonsense you write here I believe you learn it from Naik Nabir, that Indian Islamic lying apologist. Even the Jews will slap you for saying Almah does mean a virgin.

You attacked my personality rather than addressing my post...

I know you know that the person in that passage is Isaiah's son....

But you just had to insult me to make it look you smart...

This exposition is for those with sense...

Didn’t the prophet Isaiah prophesy (Isa 7:14) that The Messiah would be born through a virgin? “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and will bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel.”(Isa 7:14 KJV)“Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”(Mat 1:23KJV)
* This is a quote of Isaiah 7:14. The problem with this is that this is a christian rendering and translation. Not only do none of The Jewish Translations translate it this way but it is not what the original Hebrew says at all.
(1) ​First, the word translated “virgin” is The Hebrew word “Almah” which does not mean virgin. It means young woman. The Hebrew word for virgin is “B’tulah.”
(2) ​Second, in Isaiah 7:14 it says, “Ha Almah.” By adding the pretext definite article “Ha” it becomes The young woman, or more appropriately, “This young woman.” Thus, being a reference to Isaiah’s own wife.
(see Isaiah 8:18)
(3) ​Third, The Original Hebrew does not say “shall bear (future tense) a child.” It says “has conceived” (past tense) (Hebrew- Hara) and “Is pregnant” (present tense) (Hebrew- Yoledet) with a child (son).
(4) ​Fourth, it doesn’t say “they (plural) shall call,” it says, “She” (feminine singular) (Hebrew- V’karat) shall name him Immanuel.
* ​So literally, Isaiah 7:14 says:
“Therefore The LORD Himself shall give you a sign; Behold, this young woman has conceived and is pregnant with child, and she will bear a son, and she shall name him Immanuel.”
(Isaiah 7:14)
(5) ​Fifth, This sign that was given was Isaiah’s own son that was to be born to him. Matter of fact, both of Isaiah’s sons that were to be born, this one “Imanuel” in Isaiah 7:14 and the other one “Maher Shalal Hash Baz” in Isaiah 8:3, were both given as signs. (See Isa 8:18)
(Isa 7:1-16; Isa 8:1-18)
(6) ​In Conclusion, when Isaiah 7:14 is read in context with Isiah 7:1-8:18, it becomes apparent that this sign (Isaiah’s own son that was to be born) was given to King Ahaz so he would know the Assyrian Army that had surrounded Jerusalem would leave on their own accord and leave Jerusalem untouched while this child was still a baby. This was fulfilled in 735 BCE/BC.
(See Isaiah 7:1-8:18)

Hahahahaha

The letter killeth..
I can only reveal the message in that story if I get 10 likes..

Profound...

I think she would be Antu the consort of Anu in sumerian mythology...

And their children are Enki and Enlil...

She would be Rebecca the mother of Jacob and Esau in Judaism...

Only those with mind to discern can understand...

LilMissFavvy:
Not true. There are people who get freedom/disconnected.

What's the process called .

And your former hood members would let you go?

Dey play

elated177:
MaxInDHouse, we are the saints, servants, followers and messengers of YHVH Almighty, of Yahushua the Messiah.

Have you seen this thread concerning the purpose of the messiah as defined by the Jewish prophets?

Elated...have you gone through this thread?