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Docodes:
this is my point

Yes oh..

Michael547:
So again, 'The SPIRIT' has no name?

Chineke okike

All power belongs to God..

Power to make peace and power to kill..

He does all

Michael547:
Ok....what is the meaning of chineke in English language?

The Spirit that creates...

honesttalk21:
Do you disregard that the Hebrew word for God is ELOHIM and that the word is plural. Do you not know Deuteronomy 6:4 that emphasises the oneness of God. If you did you will understand that the plural God is one God or a God who is a “plural-one.

Equating Allah with these ancient gods overlooks the theological differences and historical contexts that define each deity.


Who created the dust? In any case this discussion was not with the earth.

Your conclusions are wrong

Allah was already being worshipped long before anybody called Muhammad existed.His so called Father's name was Abdullah which means savent of Allah..

Elohim means plural..

So, there are several gods, but only one creator of the universe...He gave the other Gods their station, to Allah he gave the moon. As his domain.

Well asper Gen.1:26...I don't know what else to tell you, maybe when you grow up you will understand..
Till then... shalom

Michael547:
What exactly are you making better? You said ego is not a problem. So what are you Making better?

You are not following...

Let me call you..

honesttalk21:
God was not talking to the earth in Genesis 1:26. The verse states, “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.’” In this context, God is divinely and the verse reflects the use of the majestic plural with God.

Your thoughts are extremely far reaching.
Sumerian a language of Mesopotamia belongs to an isolated language family, while Arabic is part of the Semitic language family. This difference indicates distinct linguistic origins for both languages.

And if you choose Akkadian then you must know that despite some similarities due to their common Semitic roots, Akkadian and Arabic have significant differences in terms of vocabulary, grammar, and phonetics. While there may be some lexical overlap or shared features due to their historical connections, the overall structures of these languages are distinct.

Your extraneous drive to relate the pre-islamic idols are interesting but totally baseless. Allah begets not and neither is he begotten

If you bothered to continue reading you will get to where it says " And God formed man from the dust of the earth and breath into his nostrils and man became a living soul....
Man is is made up of dust from the earth and breath of God.....
So where did the dust come from ?

From my extensive research..Allah would be the equivalent of the moon God sin or Nanna, it could not have been Marduk.....

honesttalk21:
This is the text from the web page.

The majestic plural, also called the royal plural, is the use of a plural word (such as the pronoun we or us) to refer to a single person. As a type of nosism, the majestic plural emphasizes something or honors someone in a stylistic way. Basically, when a member of royalty, referring to himself, says, “We” instead of “I,” he is using the majestic plural. For example, Queen Victoria, upon hearing a tasteless joke, is said to have replied, “We are not amused.”

The ancient Hebrews used the majestic plural, and some examples are found in the Old Testament. But the construction is not unique to Hebrew. The Latin language also had what the Romans called pluralis maiestatis (“the plural of majesty”), and, as has been noted, English sometimes uses it as well. Other modern languages using the royal plural include Punjabi, Hindustani, Telugu, and Egyptian Arabic (in which the President of Egypt is referred to as “Your Excellencies”).

The effect of the majestic plural is to indicate greatness, power, and prestige. It is normally reserved for use by nobles, kings, popes, and other persons of high rank when speaking in an official capacity or by those of lower rank when speaking of or to their betters.

In the Bible, we find four verses in which God refers to Himself using plural pronouns. The most well-known passage is Genesis 1:26: “Then God said, ‘Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness.’” See also Genesis 3:22; Genesis 11:7; and Isaiah 6:8. The One God is speaking of Himself in plural form: us and our. This is a perfect example of the majestic plural. God’s divine greatness and transcendence are emphasized through the simple use of pronouns.

The majestic plural is also found in one of God’s most common names in the Old Testament, Elohim. The word itself is plural (the singular is Eloah), and it is sometimes translated as “gods” (when referring to a plurality of false gods). When it refers to the One True God, Elohim (plural) is correctly translated as “God” (singular).

Deuteronomy 4:35 says, “The LORD is God”—literally, “Yahweh is Elohim.” And the famous Shema says, “The LORD our God, the LORD is one.” Again, we have the singular Lord coupled with the plural Elohim, and this time in a verse that is crystal clear that there is only one God. His name’s plural form indicates His sovereign supremacy, His matchless might, and His exceeding eminence.

We carefully note that the majestic plural in the Old Testament was not meant to teach the doctrine of the Trinity. It is simply a linguistic tool that God employed to accentuate His greatness. However, the use of plural constructions to refer to God leaves open the possibility of God’s triune nature. Later, when the doctrine of the Trinity is revealed in the New Testament, the use of the majestic plural fits right in.

this has got nothing to do with royal plural, remember the satanic verses, if Allah has daughters, then he must have a partner as in a consult. Allah is the moon god, SIN/NANNA . who had three daughters, the first is INANNA, who is lucifer. i guess she would be Alat

in genesis chapter 1:26 God was talking to the earth as the earth provided the dust for creating the body of man while God breath into it to bring it to life..

Michael547:
So why did what the creator created become a problem?

who said it was?

That's the purpose of our creation. to make it better and live in peace.

the goal is peace.

Michael547:
So you mean ego is what makes this world imperfect?

Who created ego? How did ego come to existence?

it is just part of our nature as human.

what or who ever created us did so....

Ken4Christ:
Baseless points. When God said in the Bible, Let us make man in our own image..., we know the we he is referring to.

But in many other instances, he said I.

Please your Allah is not the true God. The God of the Bible is the true God. Your Quran is not divinely inspired. The Bible is the only inspired word of God.

who was he talking to?

Michael547:
How is the spiritual realm perfect? Explain.

there is no ego...which as human is the limitation nature has imposed on us......

The spiritual realm is made up pure spirit., No ''body'' ....as they are Gods..

Michael547:
Lol....where did you get the knowledge from?

from Nature....

Israel was unfaithful and broke the covenant, God YHWH withdrew his presence from Israel and punished the Jews (No king, no temple, no priesthood, no sacrifices)
Here is God’s decision after the end of the first temple period.
Hosea 3:4
For the children of Israel shall sit solitary many days without king, and without prince, and without sacrifice, and without pillar, and without ephod or teraphim;
So far, Israel is under punishment because all the signs of God presence are inexistent (King, temple, Priesthood, sacrifices).
This means that any person who claimed to be a messenger of God of Abraham after the end of the first temple period was liar, a fake messenger.

According to the New Testament scriptures… Jesus was born when Israel was under God’s punishment. The roman’s occupation was possible because God allowed it in order to punish the Jews.

According to Jacob (Genesis 49:10) … The Messiah (SHILOH) promised by God YHWH will be sent NOT TO ISRAEL, but to all peoples. So, the Jewish Messiah son of David (MASCHIAH) is also a Jewish fabrication.

The Romans relied on the false Jewish Messiah to create their JESUS CHRIST. The Arabs also relied on the false Christ to fabricate their MASIH.
Judaism( messianic), Christianity and Islam are all based on lies and idolatry.

FxMasterz:
You're abusing me isn't it? Just for pointing out to you that Hezekiah never fulfilled any of the prophecy in that chapter? Why are you guys always allergic to the truth even when you cannot defend the lies you're telling? I only asked you to show me how Hezekiah fulfilled that prophecy in any way, your response is to insult me rather than show me why I must believe your lies?

Jesus was God in man's clothing,¹ so as a man, how many people knew He was God to have called Him Mighty God? But when you see the life He lived, the words He spoke and His resurrection, you'll know who He was. Actually, by referring to Jesus as God, we do not mean the physical Jesus. The physical Jesus was fully man in His body, and fully God in His Spirit. Jesus told the Pharisees that "Before Abraham was, I am " Have you ever seen a man make such an assertion?

So, after His resurrection, Thomas referred to Him as 'My Lord and my God!" John 20:28.

In the Book of Revelation, where ever Jesus made an appearance in Heaven in His spiritual state, He was worshipped as God. He was called Alpha and Omega. He was called Lord of lords and King of kings. It was said of Him that "He shall reign forever and ever." Hezekiah is dead, and his kingdom is no more. His kingdom has no everlasting continuance."...Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end." Isaiah 9:7. Only the Messiah can fulfil this scripture. Hezekiah never fulfilled it. Stop deceiving yourself and stop getting angry at truth.

If you have any solid points to convince me otherwise, then bring forth your points without insults. I'm waiting.

you failed to provide where Jesus was called those things...

i don't want your opinion. Where was jesus called these title in your gospel.

so you did not still understand that the child was already born when Isaiah was writing. If the child is not Hezekiah he can never ever be your jman, because he was already born when Isaiah was writing..The person has to be the son of a king, because he is a prince, and the person will son assume the throne of David. so which of these did your jman belong?.

you are just something else.

That is what we all are. We are all Gods having a human experience. we are God spirit dwelling within a physical body made from dust. when we die, we go back being Gods spirit while our body is buried to become dust. comprende? ¹

KnownUnknown:
You point one finger but there are three more pointing back at you.

have you said anything intelligent?

Beautifulday:
What then is Christianity?

a personal relationship with insanity...

Westerhoffe:
You think you know the Bible, but you don't, and to worsen it, you have difficulty understanding simple English sentences.

I will yet again expose your erroneous statements.

You lied and decided to mislead the people about EZRA 10:3, claiming it is referring to DEUTERONOMY 17:17, meanwhile EZRA 10:1-3 was referring to EXODUS 34:15,16.

Now you see you're such a blatant liar, a Satanic grade deceiver, and a mislead.

I'll expose your errors, lies, and deceptions the more!

Sit tight.

The rate at which you contort the Bible is alarming.

Your mislead says Abraham sent away his other wives and concubines? NO!

Abraham sent away their SONS from ISAAC. There is no record of Abraham sending away the women save for Hagar.

So there, you lied just exactly like Satan the father of lies did when trying to make lies look like the truth.

Genesis 25 (KJV)
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¹ Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah.
⁶ But unto the SONS of the CONCUBINES, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country.

I insist, GOD said, "IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES…! as in “If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:”
— Deuteronomy 21:15 (KJV)

GOD did not say here that, if a man has two wives, it is ADULTERY! Rather, GOD analyzed how the man should share his properties BETWEEN/AMONG THE CHILDREN OF HIS WIVES!

Now, to expose your deception and attempted cover-up with your quote from Ezra, despite all your failed attempts to back up your claims of adultery from the Bible, this is what the Bible said there:

Ezra 10 (KJV)
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¹ Now when Ezra had prayed, and when he had confessed, weeping and casting himself down before the house of God, there assembled unto him out of Israel a very great congregation of men and women and children: for the people wept very sore.
² And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken STRANGE WIVES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing.
³ Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

They admitted they've sinned against GOD by taking STRANGE WIVES of NON-ISRAELIS according to the word of GOD here:

Exodus 34 (KJV)
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¹⁵ Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice;
¹⁶ And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods.

I have yet again exposed your contortion and twisting of the Bible to butter your personal opinion, and not the word of GOD. And to make yourself sound true and over-zealous, you kept calling me names like Satan, son of Satan, bla bla bla.
That doesn't work here on me.

What a pity to those you lead for you're a blind and a blindfolded leader.

NOW, GIVE ME A VERSE FROM THE BIBLE WHERE GOD SAID HAVING TWO WIVES IS ADULTERY.

You want to drag this, I'll make it LONGER! AND EVEN RIGHT NOW, WE'VE JUST STARTED!!

he is the same old Dtruthspeaker, he does not have any sense..you will only be wasting your time..

Splashme:
A country of of over 350m people is only targeting 6,000 MW

These people are confused
.

we need to depopulate.....

all those dumb heads who believe a woman can become pregnant without a mans input has to go....

TheBillyonaire:
AGI can write programs and code softwares. So the idea that there must be a being behind every creation is both true and untrue therefore both theists and atheists are wrong.

I hereby introduce you to Pantheism. Read about it and come back so I can guide you through. I have no time to argue with you.

or both are right..

Veecruz:
Says the shit eating madman of nairaland.

you are D(lie)speaker...

why do you keep changing monikers...

nothing further to say...

over to the juries..

Thank God we have NAFDAC.

They test all drugs and vaccines coming into Nigeria before they are distributed to the populace..

i just pray they are not compromised in any way...that aside, i am and will not take any vaccine that has anything to do with Bill Gate, he is not a virologist, he has enough money to en starvation in Africa, why is he spending it on vaccines.
it is questionable to say the least.

What's the purpose of this thread again?

Nah nah nah...

Some people are so full of poo..

If he has said spirit is energy or something along that line....

It would have driven the convo forward..

But no, like an ass wipe that he is...he has failed again..

God is all powerful..

A popular song goes

All power belongs to God..all power..
All in this case means all
Power to bless
Power to kill
Power to destroy
Power to create..

Any power you can think of, belongs to God..

Satan ...is just an orisha..(A principle or law of life) not a dual opposite of God..Any thing more than this is a big insult against the creator..
There is just nothing that God created that he can't control...so my dear, anything Satan does, is done with the explicit permission by God..

FYI the serpent is a serpent , not Satan or devil..
That's to tell you, it is just a tale...
Every culture has one...

Veecruz:
Now, its God talking to the earth, no more God Mother again!

No need to ask where you saw God talking to the earth in Genesis, only in your mad mind.

Earth is called mother Earth or mother nature...you need a male and a female to produce a son or daughter..I guess this is strange to you.... because you believe a woman can become pregnant without the input of a man...olodo, with no functional brain..

Veecruz:
See why you should have never been a mad person before? Your mad reputation will always follow you.

Olodo

Veecruz:
See your madness is revealed! Genesis, Proverbd and John clearly show God The Father and The People around Him created the earth. So how then did the earth now become a God the mother?

The truth has never denied the seeker..

It is the seeker who has denied the truth...

Stop fighting the it....it is about to burst through..

Which people where with him?
You know only what I said makes sense...

God was talking to the earth as she provided the dust for creating the body....

Ok, who are the ' people ' and how are they similar to man in image and likeness..

This is a spiritual story and you don't understand it...

Open a thread, let me open your eyes..

Steep:
Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Notice the use of 'we' 'us'.


Isaiah 48:16 Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me.

Note, the person speaking identifies himself as yahweh (1 person) he said the Lord God ( another person) and his Spirit ( another person has sent him. Making them three distinct persons.
The Trinity is not a new testament teaching God has already revealed it in the old testament though the Jews might not understand it.

Like he said, you are trying so hard to read what is not there .
Like Genesis 1:26..The conversation started in verse 25., it extended to verse 26. When Ezra was writing it, he never included chapters or verses...that was added by Christians to make the deception complete...
"Let us make man in our own image after our likeness....the "US" there means God the father (Elu or Enu) and God the mother(Ala, Ani or the earth) the earth provided the dust and all for creating the body while God provided the spirit that animated the body.(That is brought the body to life )..so like I always say, we are all God's spirit dwelling with in a physical body made from dust. When the body experiences "death" it means God takes his spirit and the empty body is buried after some ceremony, because the body used to house God's spirit. That is why God only gave us the laws/odinani/Torah...etc. they are the laws of existence. The spirit realm has its own laws .
There is only one Lord God creator of the universe..the name might carry according to different cultures and languages, But there is only One. The Igbos might call him Chineke and the yorubas Olodumare

Veecruz:
See how mad you are proving you are? First you, tried to dodge answering the question, Then you confess that he was in a Garden but not a tiny one. And the bible did not say it is a tiny garden.

Budaatum, the badatom, you have run mad like sonmvayina and mindhacker, and reasonable people do not relate with mad people, so Mad off!

You are not well at all...I suggest you see a psychiatrist..

What have I said that is wrong or those not make sense...?

Ewobi....Agbaya....

THE TRUE HOLY COMMUNION

Where we raise the kola nut okmade by MOTHER NATURE (they call God) They raise the bread made by man.

Then we declare "He who brings kola brings life"
They too declare "This is the bread of life".

We offer thanks,
They offer thanks.

We offer wine
They offer wine

Then we bless the congregation
They too bless their congregation

We call on our Ndichie and WORTHY ANCESTORS; Okeke,Okafor,Okonkwo,Okorie, Igbokwe, Odenigbo and Igbokenyi, in "the communion of the living and the dead" to partake in our kola,

They too call there #Ndichie, and ancestors; St. Perter,St.Cyprian, St. Caro, St.Mark and Kizito to partake in their rite, in "the communion of the living and the dead"

Then we break and eat the concecrated kolanut,

They too break and eat their consecrated bread.

For this task we chose our men folk
They too chose their men

A properly consecrated kolanut is the true #HolyCoomunion

Yet many of you fail to see that WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE TIME BEGIN! And they can only walk in our shadows

They took what is ours and made it look like theirs, yet in their envy they call us EVIL, we who welcomed them into our homes. They ENSLAVED the MINDS of our children and set them against their fathers. This generation can never be proud of their origin of existence,

our mothers are misleading their children in the ways of the dark that is against our traditions and culture,,efulefu will stand in their pulpit and call our Ancestors demons and evil doers ,
they enjoy ridiculing our traditions just to gain members, they are the first to attack the omenaala people but when we do the same they say we want to bring a man of god down ,they call us jealous people..but they can't do their preaching without mentioning the tradition and our culture.

Now our children no longer know who they are; the firstborn creation of CHUKWU OKIKE, a noble race, Freeman, priests, priestesses, all have lost their place in the light.

I pity the mugus and the gullible members that encourage them to be deceiving them.

We descendants of NDIGBOO the ancients, we are the light of the world.

I bring good news from our ancestors and he who has ears should listen and be save.

Go back to your root and stop being confused.
Religion is the number one obstacle that is holding you down from progress ,,religion is limiting your hustle..

Our culture
Our pride

This is goodnews

THERE IS NO RELIGION HIGHER THAN TRUTH
Omenaala

MaxInDHouse:
In Jesus name, Amen!

Lol...

I don't hate them...

They are modern day Arians....

They would soon wake up.....