₦airaland Forum

ThePrinceOfLuzz:
Tell that to the pigs that give you dick from behind, fucking_ schmuck!

From zero to 100 with obscenities in record time. Bitterness and stress related outbursts such as this above is crystal clear proof that the owner of those words above has deep rooted problems either with his self esteem or his societal acceptance.

People who dish out extremes in negativity do so in their attempt to compensate for other inner turmoil such as those I already mentioned.

The reason why I would encourage his outburst is so that he can heal. I am sure he would feel better by the time he is done declaring another 500 lines of vitriol toward me while I sit back and laugh through them all.

Life is good when you are good to life.

To those up there who are desperate for attention and words from me perhaps I should help dampen their urge by opening their eyes to the fact that not all comments or persons are worthy of response neither are they to be considered as capable of getting under my skin especially when the source of their words are their obvious raging teenage hormones. So I'll pass but I thank them for the attempted attention quest regardless.

ftechclass:
I like your type. Proving smart the more.

Now, to the dalaman comment, did he said "GENERAL SURGERY is not a SPECIALITY"? or did you purposely ignore the part where he said "if général surgery is a speciality, then general hematologist is a specialist as well". Hope aint doing this just to win as usual.

Secondly, general surgery and mistaken term SURGEON above if you could be sincere was a typo error and never a blunder. I believe if you read some of my comments, there was a part I repeated "general surgeon and general surgeon instead of the second surgeon been surgery". I had to rẹ modified my post.

I believe these are your so called blunders

Save your breath and simply "humbly learn".

His comment below after comparing General surgery to General Surgeon shows it was no typo.

adepeter26:

What is/are the Difference(s) between surgeon and surgery abeg, then relate it to speciality and specialist.

Now combine general surgeon and general hematologist....


In his entire ignorant argument he never ever for once mentioned a typo even when I put GENERAL SURGERY and GENERAL SURGEON in capital letters and dalaman told him General surgery and not General surgeon is a specialty.

Why are you trying to make excuses for him using a typo when he never made one? You made the same blunder and just like him are too headstrong to see it.

ftechclass:
Spacetacular, can you provide evidences for his blunders and corrections on this thread

We are quite finished here. You really do need to get some brain food though. Cheers!

ftechclass:
Your portray à habit of typical Christian on this section.

I'm not adepeter but I will like you to point out when he said general surgeon and general surgery are same.

Please, be sincere to reference where he made the blunder. Please.

Secondly, you're lying further. Where did he claim general surgery is non-existent? Can you still provide reference to the comment of his? We actually don't need to lie or try to win arguments.

Thirdly, the pathogen and vector part.

Lastly, i read from page 0 - last page of this thread, you have been the one makin assumptions about him. Hope you recalled when you said 'he claimed to be a Pathologist'? Hope you recall as well when you said he claimed to be a pharmacologist?

I guess he asked you for proof, you couldn't provide.

Please, be sincere to provide link to any error he made on this THREAD so the whole world can read else, kindly accept you formulate ideas, words just to win

Why do you have to tell lies in order to have an imaginary leverage? If indeed you had read from page 0 as you claimed then how did you miss these:

My comment

spacetacular(f): 11:17am On Jun 21
dalaman:


What is your own specialty? Answer it and don't run from it.

Run from what? How and why would I run from my truthful assertion? My specialty is General surgery.

Adepeters comment

adepeter26(m): 11:38am On Jun 21
dalaman:


She answered because she has a specialty. You are ashamed because she just exposed you as a liar. She has one and has stated it. You don't have any and since you can't give what you don't have you want others to be like you. You can't answer because yours doesn't exist. Mr lie lie doctor.

adepeter26:
You dae fall hands bro...

General surgeon, a speciality?
General haematologist na specialist as well.

The first correction from the same dalaman

dalaman: 11:47am On Jun 21
adepeter26:

You dae fall hands bro...

General surgeon, a speciality?
General haematologist na specialist as well.

dalaman:
General surgery is a specialty.

He still did not get it and went on with his blunder

adepeter26(m): 11:47am On Jun 21
spacetacular:


You truly do have a "dumb" head on your shoulder.

It's GENERAL SURGERY and not GENERAL SURGEON.

surely you couldn't have missed the difference because it is right there in front of you in black and white.

adepeter26:
Ewww... Me not gonna banter/trade words.


What is/are the Difference(s) between surgeon and surgery abeg, then relate it to speciality and specialist.

Now combine general surgeon and general hematologist....

Ó dull gaan

You can kindly read up on the rest from page 12 especially since you first lied to have read from page 0.

ftechclass:
Your portray à habit of typical Christian on this section.

I'm not adepeter but I will like you to point out when he said general surgeon and general surgeon are same.

Please, be sincere to reference where he made the blunder. Please

So you never saw it and yet you chose to make the same blunder he did? He withdrew and switched to memes and trash talk the moment he realised his mess up. Perhaps you should go backward from where he began with his memes and see it for yourself. Your ignorance is your bliss.

ftechclass:
I believed we all when to school for a reason (allowing school to pass through you). There is no point sourcing 90% article without 70% just to proof points. It shows you aint sure of what you're talking about.

To play the victim card back at you, i could copy everything from a website without understanding what's all about.

Like myself and somebody stated above, nobody is an island of knowledge. I will leave you to your online argument winning.

Attacking people's personality is your trick. Calling people names. Anyways, what ever makes you scream well at night during fvck, do it.

Bye

That copy and paste was specially for you being the special needs person you are. I have never copied and pasted any medical observation until I did it for you due to your peculiarity.

You can run a check on all my comments ever made on this website. I speak from my head and sound mind which is immensely brilliant (if I may say so myself) while you speak from an ignorant position which is evident in all you have said so far.

Adepeter has been corrected a number of times here by others besides me and here you come carrying out the same faux pas he did and that indeed shows how birds of a feather do flock together.

ftechclass:
Exactly my point bro.

Just watchout and see how she attacks you just to prove her points.

I like the way adepeter kindly withdrew himself outta the thread because no matter how you sink the knowledge down to some people's head, it wont Penetrate.

You mean the same adepeter who said General surgery and General surgeon are the same thing? And General surgery as a specialty was nonexistent?

You need to laugh at yourself for a wake up call.

nelszx:
My brother no vex oo say I want quote you.......

If you have made mistake or blunder don't dwell on it, admit you have committed one no one is above that. You can confuse a lay person but not someone in the line. Malaria is not PATHOGENIC but the Plasmodium species are the PATHOGEN carried by the VECTOR Female Anopheline which causes a Disease / Infection known as Malaria. There's always an interplay of the 3 elements before you can say it's a disease.

Malaria is not PATHOGENIC; but it is a DISEASE caused by a PATHOGENIC strain (of the 5 subclasses) of Plasmodium carried by a VECTOR which is the female Anopheles Mosquito

Saying malaria is pathogenic is like saying AIDS is pathogenic, it doesn't make sense at all. No matter how big we may claim to be we can still take correction from our patients and even "kids".
And besides the term "species" is both singular and plural in itself and it's medically wrong to refer to any organism as "specie" without the "s".
N.B: There are other strains of Plasmodium carried by the same vector that are not pathogenic to man (more than 20)

I think you need to read ALL of the comment you responded to and not what you chose to cherry pick.

ftechclass:
Before responding to your mention, I know your main aim is to win the point. Wont be surprised after reading the below response
Thought as much. Exactly what I expected.

I will try not to red Herr but the situation at hand couldn't help.

Lol funny enough, all you do is copy and paste. All your lengthy articles are copy and paste without formulating most points yourself.

There is this simple question I would have loved to ask but seems its uncalled for anyways.

General medicine is a course and speciality, medicine is a course and speciality as well. (ROTFLMAO)

At this junction, I'm going to do what others did on this thread, which is ignoring you. Enjoy your speciality Dr

What you term as copy and paste was my attempt to show you other corrections to your error besides my words. Afterall I already declared my specialty which you said did not exist hence my option of showing you from other sources.

Despite all you just read, assimilation seems not to be your strong side. If you do not realise what a sub speciality is and what a core speciality is then I am afraid you just might require a mental reset or at the least some brain food.

ftechclass:
Miss/Mrs, with all due respect, i will say he's right.

The source/point you listed further proved him right. You listed even sub-specialities of surgery in ya GENERAL SURGERY speciality. Sub-disciplines like;

Thoracic Surgery. ...
Colon and Rectal Surgery. ...
Obstetrics and Gynecology. ...
Gynecologic Oncology. ...
Neurological Surgery. ...
Ophthalmic Surgery. ...
Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery. ...
Orthopaedic Surgery.

You generalized your surgery by saying GENERAL SURGERY while his was Surgery.
Morealso, he has a valid points for saying there's nothing like general surgery instead SURGERY. General surgery to me is a répétition, it's like saying SURGERY SURGERY. I would have disagreed with him if only you listed sub-disciplines of surgery and he attacked it. I hope you get my point.

Now, General hospital, private hospital, federal and state hospitals are generally termed HOSPITALS.

The word "GENERAL" should be looked at critically from a clearer perspective and not a view to win argument

Read further and wake up from your blissful ignorance:

General surgery

General surgeons employ a wide range of knowledge and skills to perform surgery, often in emergency situations ( which is what I do) . There is frequently an emphasis on acute abdominal problems

Nature of the work

General surgery encompasses a broad range of surgery which includes:

surgical conditions of the gastrointestinal tract from the oesophagus to the anus
breast conditions
kidney, pancreas and liver transplantation
trauma to the abdomen and thorax
certain skin conditions
initial assessment of patients with peripheral vascular disease
general surgery of childhood
elective surgery is also an important part of the work

General surgery is one of the two largest surgical specialties in the UK (the other being trauma and orthopaedics) employing 31% of the country’s consultant surgeons. This is a wide ranging surgical specialty with many sub-specialties.

General surgeons usually have their own subspecialty and also perform more general work. Acute abdominal pain is the most common emergency presentation requiring surgery, since the abdomen has various organs which may be causing the pain. Common conditions requiring surgery include appendicitis, hernias and gallstones.

Speak knowledgeably sir or be quiet and "humbly" learn.

I am off to work now. Just had to quickly correct your numerous errors.

ftechclass:
Yes, and I gave my points above. I believe if aint the type you wants to win argument, you will see things from a clearer perspective above...

My message to spacetacular is enough to clear the air about GENERAL SURGERY and SURGERY

What "air" are you trying to clear about General Surgery and surgery? You ought to have kept quiet sir rather than further pollute the air you claim you wanted to clear.

Gensurg is my specialty and all others listed under it in the medical field are called "sub specialties". A Gensurg can choose to sub specialize or not. Read the below to disabuse your mind of ignorance. You feel because the word "surgery" is there then I am solely a surgeon? General surgery as a specialty makes me a surgeon and more and does not limit me to cutting and sealing.

Specialty of General Surgery Defined

1. The scope of general surgery
General surgery is a discipline that requires knowledge of and responsibility for the preoperative, operative, and postoperative management of patients with a broad spectrum of diseases, including those which may require nonoperative, elective, or emergency surgical treatment. The breadth and depth of this knowledge may vary by disease category. Surgical management requires skill in complex decision making; general surgeons should be competent in diagnosis as well as treatment and management, including operative intervention.

2. The certified general surgeon demonstrates broad knowledge and experience in conditions affecting the:

Alimentary Tract
Abdomen and its Contents
Breast, Skin and Soft Tissue
Endocrine System
In addition, the certified general surgeon demonstrates broad knowledge and experience in:
Surgical Critical Care
Surgical Oncology
Trauma

3. The field of general surgery as a specialty comprises, but is not limited to, the performance of operations and procedures relevant to the content areas listed above. It is expected that the certified surgeon will also have additional knowledge and experience relevant to the above areas in the following categories:
Related disciplines, including anatomy, physiology, epidemiology, immunology, and pathology (including neoplasia).
Clinical care domains, including wound healing; infection and antibiotic usage; fluid and electrolyte management; transfusion and disorders of coagulation; shock and resuscitation; metabolism and nutrition; minimally invasive and endoscopic intervention (including colonoscopy and upper endoscopy); appropriate use and interpretation of radiologic diagnostic and therapeutic imaging; and pain management.

4. The certified general surgeon also is expected to have knowledge and skills for diseases requiring team-based interdisciplinary care, including related leadership competencies. Certified general surgeons additionally must possess knowledge of the unique clinical needs of the following specific patient groups:
Terminally ill patients, to include palliative care and pain management; nutritional deficiency; cachexia in patients with malignant and chronic conditions; and counseling and support for end-of-life decisions and care.

Morbidly obese patients, to include metabolic derangements; surgical and non-surgical interventions for weight loss (bariatrics); and counseling of patient and families.
Geriatric surgical patients, to include management of comorbid chronic diseases.
Culturally diverse and vulnerable patient populations.

5. In some circumstances, the certified general surgeon provides care in the following disease areas. However, comprehensive knowledge and management of conditions in these areas generally requires additional training.

Vascular Surgery
Pediatric Surgery
Thoracic Surgery
Burns
Solid Organ Transplantation

6. In unusual circumstances, the certified general surgeon may provide care for patients with problems in adjacent fields such as obstetrics and gynecology, urology, and hand surgery.

Stop trying to use head knowledge to explain medical distinctions! I am even ashamed to see some people actually agreed with you and you all seem to love your ignorance.

You said you wish to humbly learn. Well I hope you have "humbly" done so now and will now quit with all the nonsense you typed above.

adepeter26:
Yes I don't know. I have no idea. I know nothing like general surgery but surgery.

Lol.

You could say that again Mr man. "IGNORANCE" is what you've been shouting since. Change mime jare...

Anyways, in UK, there are general Doctors, general biochemist and general biologist... Rotflmao

General surgery is a surgical specialty that focuses on abdominal contents including esophagus, stomach, small bowel, colon, liver, pancreas, gallbladder and bile ducts, and often the thyroid gland (depending on local reference patterns). They also deal with diseases involving the skin, breast, soft tissue, trauma, peripheral vascular surgery and hernias.

Courtesy : wikipedia
Courtesy : www.hopkinsmedicine.org
Courtesy : www.aamc.org
Courtesy : www.healthcareers.nhs.uk

Etc.

Painfully ignorant and yet so happy in it.

felixomor:
He is indeed delusional.

A simple acceptance of help from Google would have shown him In a heartbeat that General surgery is a specialty but rather than accept that help he would rather continue wallowing in his ignorance by mocking the UK and her medical specialities.

He is indeed delusional.

felixomor:
Nah sorry,
Because inside your deranged mind,
You can actually feel like a professor, you know?

But the fact that you could not make the cut,
Is Enough for me to evaluate you on medical issues.

Sir sometimes I wonder why I bother. Even as I bantered with him I kept having this nagging feeling to stop stop stop because he was clearly delusional about his position and was simply not making any sense anywhere. All he was doing was just trash talking much like the picture he just offered me. Such a bore!

adepeter26:
Yea, i guessed I stated my reason above. I know nothing like General surgery been a special instead Surgery....

But if there is a speciality called "général" surgery, then there is general Paediatric and general whatever. Hope you read in-between line?

So you had no idea that General Surgery is a speciality and you are living in the 21st century?

This puts paid to it. I am done with you. Your ignorance is painful and deafeningly loud.

felixomor:
I suspect he is a med school drop out.
Or could not enter
Its all over him.

Same thoughts I have. It can be a very frustrating and depressing thing and he is clearly frustrated. He keeps calling for re-enforcement from his friends by mentioning their IDs and has not made a single medical statement worthy of note ever since he began making his senseless noise.

felixomor:
Since you came to this thread,
You have not made sense.

Its people like you that couldnt enter or finish medicine because of this type of reasoning.
Very dull.

Absolutely no iota of sense. Just noise everywhere on every comment of his.

adepeter26:
You're becoming a liar lately. You don't have to lie to win arguments or pass ymessage across. Where did I say General surgery and general surgeon are same? Post the link pls else for ever remain silent.

I only about speciality called surgery and specialist called surgeon....

And what did I say about the points Sir or wanna frame up liés again ?

Yea, we use malaria cos that the simplest most people know. Should I use alkaptonuria or advancement of blood transfusion service? That will be forming ITK online. We (myself & Billy) aint in for online lesson.

Chaiiiiii, it's too bad

Kai.... Mr man.... This is serious

A certain dalaman even had to step in to correct your obvious painful ignorance regarding surgeon and surgery and which was a specialty especially when you said you were ashamed of him for believing that General surgery was a specialty and you muddled it up by calling it General surgeon.

You seriously need a refresher course.

adepeter26:
Laughing in swahili. Not gonna respond to this.

You see your problem? Pride and claiming to be jack of all medical profession.

You bounce into threads without knowing what's been discussed. I summoned you to read Dr Malaria who said malaria is a pathogen and vector.

I believed as a doctor, general surgeon and traumalogist you claimed to be would see the ERROR. What did you do instead? You buttressed his point by saying malaria is a pathogen.... You couldn't even decipher between a disease caused by a pathogen and the pathogen itself. Chaiiiiii.... UK patients Yaff suffered.

Your trick of medicine after death as usual. It won't help you Sir.

Its not good for a carpenter to be nightmare to doctors on RELIGION SECTION oo

1st, you said I claimed to be a Pathologist. Now again a pharmacologist. Stop the lies please.
Time without number, i ve said this, I never claimed to be a pharmacist neither did I say I'm a pharmacologist.

Drop link to the thread I claimed to be any above pls....

Can there be any sort of an afterthought from me when I clearly made my submission in one post at once?

Malaria is pathogenic! You can twist my words and say Malaria is a pathogen but middle line here is that no Pathogen, no malaria. Period. Take away the Plasmodium and malaria ceases so you can try telling me how you managed to separate Malaria from its pathogen

adepeter26:
This will be my first insult to you spacetacular....

You're too dumb. Ya license of practice needs to be re-assessed to of truly you're a "General surgeon", "traumalogist" as claimed

First of all you can try hurling the insults at yourself for first saying General Surgery is same as General Surgeon and that General Surgery was not a specialty.

Now you go on about Plasmodium and malaria. You and catfishbilly seem to both share malaria as your specialty especially since both your medical knowledge is only limited to malaria.

All I have been reading all day has been malaria this and malaria that.

You still do not realise that malaria is simply a human pathogenic disease.

adepeter26:
Anyways, I'm not surprised by your comment. Birds of same feather flock together. Two quacks in the making.

Malaria is the diseased state of MALARIA PARASITE infection. The disease caused by Plasmodium infection is malaria...

The pathogen is a parasite which is Plasmodium.
The disease state is malaria.

Hope your skull can grab the difference between PATHOGEN, INFECTION & DISEASE

Olodo...

Empty barrel make the loudest of noise.

Èm not suprise sha

It's now clear that you speak from the bottom of ignorance.

Malaria would not exist without its pathogen or it's Vector which is the Anopheles mosquito.

Malaria is powered by its parasites. Kill the pathogen and you kill the disease. Both are the same. In the lab people do not look for malaria, they look for its pathogen and when it's found its killed.

The street name meant for the non medical and medical inclussive is Malaria but the actual name is human-pathogenic Plasmodium specie.

You need to stop claiming to be a pharmacologist.

adepeter26:
Apostle must hear of this ooo.


CatfishBilly, akintom, hopefulLandlord, dalaman, Hahn and finally Dr spacetacular... Una doctor is at it again...

Malaria is a pathogen (1st blunder. I thought maybe it was grammatical error until he threw the second bomb, loading below).
Malaria is a vector (Amadioha, i cant take it).
Malaria is blood (Jesus Christi)
Malaria symptoms and treatment (we still understand this one)...

Jesus Olúwa wa Amin

This is why I had to help you with the different strains of Plasmodium. You obviously know nothing about what you claim.

Those specie of Plasmodium are known as human pathogenic Plasmodium species aka malaria parasites.

You do realise that a pathogen is a biological agent that causes disease or illness to its host of which malaria parasites are Pathogenic.

Try not to invite me into your world of dumb ignorance sir.

ExInferis:
Lols you obviously thought this is witty.

You poor insipid halfwit.

I wonder how long it took your insect brain to come up with that jejune effort.

Now, go skulk in your little shrine to Odin before you hurt yourself, pilgrim.

You just proved my comment right! My offer still stands. Will yourself to believe in your logicality and maybe, just maybe you will.

CatfishBilly:
It could be dumb luck or coincidence if it happens as a one off, I've given an example here before. A set of twins fell from a skyscraper while cleaning Windows. One survived and one didn't, that's just pure dumb luck.

But if it is shown to happen repeatedly, like Autoresuscitation, then it's no longer coincidence or luck, there's an underlying cause. This is where science steps in and tries to unravel the mystery.

Allow me use you own analogy to speak to you. If a set of twins fell from a Skyscraper and one survives while the other didn't the question you should be asking ought to be thus

1) Were all the skyscrapers designed the same way?
2) Did these twins fall straight down or intermittently bumped into things that slowed them down thereby making one die via blunt force trauma while the other survived same trauma due to angle of impact.
3) What attempts did the twins make to stop their fall or they simply just submitted to the inevitable? Did one try and another fail to try?
4) if same principles as above are applied repeatedly what would be the rate of death as against that of life?

You see your "dumb luck"analogy falls flat on its face right there.

Since you say autoresuscitation happens frequently, how frequent do you think it may have happened in the past 40 years?

Does frequency prove methodology? Is there a methodology which is applicably verifiable to autoresuscitation?

Since you agree that autoresuscitation isn't luck and medicine terms it a mystery simply because a lot of deaths have underlying factors and not just old age. Diseases are attached to these deaths and yet there have been records of instant disappearance of these diseases along with autoresuscitation.

So we are not just talking about death and revival but also elimination of the causes of this death.

I wish you luck with discovering the methodology of autoresuscitation especially when medically the cause of death was unable to be stopped.

CatfishBilly:
Now we have gotten to the point of replying questions with questions.

Goes to show you that every question has 2 sides or as many sides as you intend it to have.

Why ask me a question you hold no answer to when it's redirected at you?

CatfishBilly:
Ascribing it to a god is what I question.
If it is demonstrated as an exception that proves the rule, then I have no issues with it.

So if according to your statement miracles do happen which as you said, "things go against science all the time and that does not make them wrong (which puts miracles smack in the centre of this) ", what then would you ascribe those things to? Coincidence? Stroke of luck? An evolutionary bypass?

felixomor:
Wow
So why do u question miracles?

A very appropriate question which he already gave an answer to unknowingly while making his own comment. Lol

CatfishBilly:
What will you do when science finally describes the pathophysiology behind Autoresuscitation? Declare that there is no god or move on to another medical "mystery"?


Attempt to give a name to Medical mystery is nothing new. Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy when it was initially being studied was thought to happen only to boxers so it was called Dementia Pugilistica but through the good works of Dr. Bennett Omalu, we now know exactly how it happens.
What if Dr. Omalu took the easy way out and said it was god?

What will you do if science never can explain it and they admit to it and Lazarus syndrome remains a medical mystery till the day you suck in your last breathe? Would you ask those around you to make sure they attempt resuscitation on you just in case autoresuscitation ends up happening to you after death?

Would you declare there is God or claim its just one of those things and move to the next menu on your plate?

CatfishBilly:
Spontaneous remission of cancers is a known entity in medicine, with thousands of occurrences. Theories have been put forward, some more convincing than the others, that doesn't make it any less of a medical entity.

I've never submitted that all patients that had resuscitation attempts will achieve Autoresuscitation.

If a patient dies on my watch, after resuscitation attempts, I'll call it.
If the person regains spontaneous circulation, that's all swell. Just know that I won't call it a miracle though.

We are not talking about cancer. We are talking about death and autoresuscitation not spontaneous remission and you and I know why you would rather drop dead than agree that your Lazarus syndrome is not tenable in medicine as it is not an empirically verifiable medical position but simply an attempt to give a name to a mystery.

hopefulLandlord:
so its not illegal to offer prayers to a patient on the way to hospital but its illegal if one does that in a hospital?

Prayer is not illegal in hospitals here. Just that some people tend to push extremes which I have personally witnessed so I resolved to "suffer a temporary loss" by going out on the road in order to be able to do this without anyone making a video or complaining. If a Patient can only find comfort from God in a time of distress why should I deny them that comfort? We would pray together even while they have been strapped down and hooked up in the van.

hopefulLandlord:
are you sure you're in the UK?

cuz a nurse was recently fired in the UK for offering prayer to patients

That's why I love my job and why I chose doing it this way rather than being cooped up in a hospital where I initially was. Outside those confines I can offer prayer for patients as we journey to hospitals without any resultant backlash and we do it a lot.