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Jodera:
lol...
I wanted spy to answer it. After all, Vieira didn't do any 2nd coming.
And he left even at his peak, same situation as henry (tho he was eased off cos of fabregas)

BlueRayDick:
Don't mind spy. That was a gaffe on his part; saying Henry coming back cemented his lgedary status.

Like say Lampard was not already hero at Chelsea even when heater played for man city.

BlueRayDick:
Bros this is your post which I objected to:

"Henry left for Barca under similar circumstances but found a way to return to the club even scoring goals again and retiring here. That's what has qualified him as a legend"

U specifically said it was about his return. That was why I entred the discussion. That was the only reason I quoted u to disagree with that and let u know Henry was arguably our best player in modern day football. Nobody comes close to him based on what he achieved in his time at the club b4 joining barca.

I don't know why u are changing mouth.....maybe cos u agree Ur initial assertion maybe far from the truth sha. No wàhálà

Jodera:
If I get you right...
Are you saying Ashley Cole is a legend, but doesn't have legendary status?
Lol...
Please, what's the difference between being a legend and having a legendary status?

Jodera:
lol..what drift?
Nobody says fab is a legend, or should be crowned one.
What we said was, all those his speech he gave concerning his transfer away from arsenal are valid and true.
Most arsenal fans who are logical won't hold it against him.

BlueRayDick:
You are talking a rubbish. You are talking a nonesense my friend!

Which one be statutory legend Na statutory Hennessy vsop u go see.

Ashley Cole left arsenal in a controversial circumstance, nobody will ever regard him a legend.

Ronaldo is in no way a legend to man utd like he is to Madrid. Everybody knows this. His achievement at Madrid has overshadowed whatever he had achieved with man utd

Just accept Henry is Arsenal's All time highest goal scorer, he won the Golden shoe 4 Times, lifted the epl twice and the FA cup twice. That is what qualifies him to be a legend.

Not some mumbo jumbo about his return to the club on a six montb loan spell as an old man.

Jodera:
lol...
Bitter truth

Jodera:
True...he didn't act crazy at first when he scored the first goal against us.
I'm not talking about his celebration against us wen he scored, I'm talking about how he left us wen we needed him most, wen we stood at him at his critical time. Nobody is against his personal ambition, what most are angry for is the loyalty he destroyed when we needed him.
He just gave arsenal 1 season. If he had stayed put at least till the 2nd full injury-free season, I'm sure no one will have hated him the way we do.

That's just my take, not necessarily the goal celebration he did against us.

Jodera:
Henry would have still been a legend whether he did the 2nd coming to arsenal or not. He's already paid his legendary dues before he left for barca. Coming back the 2nd time doesn't confirm anything. Just like drogba, his 2nd coming to Chelsea have no impact on his legendary status. He was already a legend before he left Chelsea.

Tell me any elite player that stuck to a club during the trophyless years , when the said player is not a local boy to that club growing up.
Is it Gerrard that's a lifelong Liverpool fan wen he was young, grew up at Merseyside and Liverpool run through his veins, or totti(same situation at AS Roma). That's why I named wilshere as someone who would have stayed at arsenal for long, no matter how underachieving we were if not for injuries, cos he's really a local boy, and he dearly loved arsenal (just like arsenal blood were running through his veins).

Now to the bolded.
Name me at least, 2 top players that stayed at a particular club during their barren spells when that said top player isn't a local boy, let's see (at least, from year 2000 upwards).

BlueRayDick:


How did u come about the bold part of Ur post?

Henry has been a legend b4 coming back and scoring goals na. His coming back was not what qualified him a legend o; it was what he achieved at the club that made him one Jare.

Jodera:
A club that isn't successful will have very few legend especially wen the environment is not set for him to thrive on.
Henry that we all shout that he is a legend, is really a legend cos the environment then was set for him to thrive then. When the weak mentality entered the team (post veira and bergkamp time), he flee from us and went to barca. He even shortchanged arsenal sef. You think if he came during the era of fabregas, he wouldn't have ran away from arsenal like fabregas?... Lol
Saying it's lame and insensitive is not fair on fabregas. Even as a fan, I knew how many times I was angry wen we know we needed a position filled just to become a title challenger and Wenger bottles it. And he repeats the cycle, year in year out. It's only someone unambitious and let's say a local boy(like wilshere) that will stay put. As long as you're not in this 2 categories and you're an elite footballer, it's a fact that you must run away from a club if you're not successful.
All fab says there is the truth and anybody that thinks otherwise then have blind love for Wenger.

Jodera:
It's not bullcrap...
It's the truth. Wenger really drained most ambitious players, and killed the winning mentality of the players

iamoyindamola:
Cesc revealed why he left in 2011, he was mentally, emotionally and physically drained he thought the club was going to invest and get better players to complement him.
Same reason every top players we had left, wengay was the culprit fvcking old stingy man.
I will never forgive that man

Fkhalifa:
And that's the problem,its not by fielding the big names but what works..
Remember France played Mbappe,Griezman and Dembele in their first game in the world cup, those 3 upfront looked dangerous on paper, but always struggle to break teams down, and the moment the Average Giroud was introduced, everything clicked..

Remember Spain hardly play David Villa and Torres.
For me, Sanchez,Rosciky,Nasri and Arshavin ahead of Auba on the wings.

Fkhalifa:
I rate V.persie ahead, and I can't play Auba on the wings, that's gon be drab football.

Fkhalifa:
Szceszny
Sagna. Toure. Kos. Clichy
Song
Fabregas. Carzola

Nasri/ Rosciky Sanchez
V.persie.

Miner13:
we have recorded more cases than ghana yet ghana have started disinfecting there public place.which types of leaders in this country blessed with?

Luizkid:
I stopped reading when you made claims about the virus being man-made, this is unfounded and you don't have facts so stick to the main aim of your thread calling for people to remember the needy amongst us... By the way, seems they're better of with little knowledge about the happenings in the globe. we're so informed right now it scares.

Jodera:
lol..
Yeah, with your 442. It's a perfect one.
The only issue I've with your set up is arshavin there, wen a certain A.Sanchez played for us.

Jodera:
What's this news I'm hearing about Hanta virus again??

Jodera:
Lol... Yeah.
His partnership with kos was stronger and better than kos- vermalaen.

Jodera:
Mine will be

Sczceszny

Sagna.... Merte.... Kosc... Monreal

Coquelin.. Cazorla

Van persie... Fabregas.... Sanchez

Aubameyang

Mehn, looking at our squad then, we really carried a lot of subpar and cut and join players o

Also, I know coquelin might be debatable, but what he did that sole season trumps what most 4 did during the duration. It's so sad Wenger head touch and he just switched him away from his best position.
Coq- Caz was really the best pairing we had at the base post 8-2 man u thrashing era

Roland17:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52005204

Arteta has fully recovered from the virus as anticipated.

Sniper4real:
Why will arsenal play champe

Ismy5000:
You can go for strong , or csat , or tiger or elephant

iamoyindamola:
This is really bad, this virus is really spreading fast

fredoooooo:
Sorry coachee
Assnal is a virus now Corona.. double wahala

iamoyindamola:
Adrian is the only one with error, our best defender in EPL was escorting morata

Jodera:
Adrian is part of the team, agreed, but he cost the team. There was no reason to hurriedly pass that ball....not like Liverpool was trailing sef.
Salah and Mane missed chances, they created chances and they tried their best. All was undone by just a stupid moment of Adrian. The attack was perfect, oblak was just too great. Yes they crossed, but that's what is expected wen it team parks d bus. But even at that, salah and chamberlain was still doing damages, in terms of breaking 18 and outside the ball shot. Everything was under control until Adrian happened