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Kbs468:
Pablo Mari Makes premier league debut

BlueRayDick:
Option 2.

Xhaka should not be the one to decide hire and fire decisions. The club/team does not revolve around him.

BlueRayDick:
The club has scouts paid to do that job already. No be scout go find Pablo Mari come out?

kokaneprodigy:
If Xhaka dies today God forbid we won’t play football again? Xhaka is easily dispensable

BlueRayDick:
Bros I play amateur football quite well as a teenager. I didn't end up playing football as a professional because I was doing well academically and my parents would have none of the irresponsibility that trailed most local players.

You see, coaches start players for different reasons. It is not every player u see on the pitch that are the best in their position in the team.

That Xhaka starts under Wenger, Emery, Ljunberg and under Arteta doesn't mean he is the best player in that DM role in the team. There are so many considerations that could have led to that decision. Since Alex song left that DM role, we haven't had any physical player to step into that role. Coquelin was short. We had paid good money for Xhaka who is 6 ft 0in as against song who left that is 6 ft 1 in. Xhaka was the only option. Considering the fact that we haven't invested in any DM afterwards, it is only normal for all coaches to stick with the physical Xhaka till they get money to cop another DM with his stature but more of a ball aying DM; not one who wants to stay in North London and pass the pass to Sambisa forest.

This is why I hope and pray out of the funds that will be made available to Arteta, he should get a DM and sell off Xhaka to recoup a part of the cost instead of continually managing Xhaka

BlueRayDick:
We've seen a ball winner like Torreira play alongside him winning all winnable balls, but that his superior ball passing ability how often have u seen it on display?

At what point did he display this attribute consistently that we all didn't notice?

If u ask me, Sincerely I think u are obsessed with Xhaka. You seem to have a believe he will reach some certain heights when he hasn't even left the floor.

BlueRayDick:
Quick question ; Do u honestly think Arsenal can win the league with Xhaka playing DM all season long?

BlueRayDick:
Bros why?

You quoted my initial post pointing it out that my submissions are invalid when I called for the sale of Xhaka because his contribution to the game in the middle of the park is below par( At times Guendouzi a 4cking 20 year old bests him in the middle). I clearly stated the fact that Xhaka has not really being the midfielder we all crave for until the role of Auxillary leftback was specifically carved out for him under arteta, you disagreed.

In order to make it seem he was being judged unfairly, you posited :

" There is a reason why Xhaka has always been on the first team since his U17 days in Nigeria for Switzerland to his time at FC Basel, to Borrusia Mgb , and Arsenal all under Wenger, Emery and now Arteta.

He may not be the super star midfield maestro, but he does bring value to his team


Now the same you has proposed that we all agree he just doesn't fit into arsenal playing style. Bros, Is that not the same thing as XHAKA IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ARSENAL? Now is it not only sensible to sell a player whose style doesn't suit the team and get one whose style does?

Why did it take you this long to agree?

Jodera:
Yeah...OK means, just good enough. Nothing exceptionally more.

Lol, wen discussing players, please, let's don't call Ronaldo or Messi biko. Those 2 aren't players but aliens.

The bolded is true, which means we're getting somewhere. While kdb wasn't given chance at Chelsea tho, same with salah, so we can't judge them then..I remember reading an article were kdb literally begged mou to be given chance, but my guy no gree.
Xhaka on the other hand, we've seen him play time and again... But we all know his limited in some basic critical qualities according to his position. Can't tackle, can't push ball forward, No speed and all. So he's just good enough. Even his outside 18 shot have stopped sef. What we need is that "sometimes extra" in his quality and maybe we'll be good. Look at wen we paired coquelin with cazorla(on his peak season). Even tho coq is not scoring, nor assisting, but then we're always confident that once opponents are venturing to our half, they won't find it easy cos he's good at tackles and interceptions. He doesn't over-do and releases the ball quickly. He wasn't world class but we cherished him then...imagine we had that kinda person now partnering ceballos... Mehn, midfield don dope na.
That's the kinda players we want....
Lacazette also na anoda OK player.

Jodera:
Lol...
But to be serious. What the guy says is right. OK players especially in a critical position can hardly give you trophies. We need above OK players in most positions to be truly competitive. What he said is really the truth

Fkhalifa:
Football today especially in England demands more than OKAY, in the least be "very good" if not brilliancy.

OKAY players are good for 5th,6th and 9th, but very good for something bigger.

Auba is an example of a player beyond being OKAY and maybe Torreira, they are very good/brilliant and are top4 materials.

The young players and new signings can be understandable to look OKAY for the main time, but the main Men starting every week have to do more than OKAY to get us above 5th,6th and 9th.

Messi and Ronaldo's brilliance is top notch.

Fkhalifa:
Covering for defenders are basics most deep midfielders do, but the main job as seen with Alex Song,Axel Witsel,T.partey et Al is what is lacking..

Too one dimensional, one footed,no techniques, styles, sharpness and surprise element..

Yes, he's been OKAY, he may look better in orther leagues, but to move up with the top best in England, We need to upgrade to a better deep midfielder.

Fkhalifa:
Covering for defenders are basics most deep midfielders do, but the main job as seen with Alex Song,Axel Witsel,T.partey et Al is what is lacking..

Too one dimensional, one footed,no techniques, styles, sharpness and surprise element..

Yes, he's been OKAY, he may look better in orther leagues, but to move up with the top best in England, We need to upgrade to a better deep midfielder.

BlueRayDick:
Everybody knows Xhaka starting at Arsenal has always been about his physical presence and Long ball ability(Which David Luiz presently looks better at it than him).

I don't know if we do watch the same matches, but equating Xhaka's role in that Auxilary left back position to what a short Kante does to cover for a tall Alonso when a corner is being taken in an opposition is just not it.

You are talking about Fernandinho , when last did he even start as a DM?

Nobody is saying Xhaka role as an auxilary LB is out of place considering the limited choice of options at his disposal, however it will be unwise if Arteta continues to use him in that role after the close of the next transfer window instead of buying a decent DM who can play his primary role well enough.

Xhaka thus far under Arteta is not well known for what he does in his primary role (DM), rather for what he plays in an auxilary LB role.

My concern is when we have our experienced LB's fit and there is no need for the Auxillary LB experiment anymore, trusting Xhaka with that DM role he hasn't really excelled at will be our bane. So I will prefer he is sold, get a proper DM that does his job well enough and let's have peace of mind in that position instead of always praying he doesn't slide an opposition player in front of the box each time he goes into a tackle.

BlueRayDick:
You don't get it. Xhaka is only playing that makeshift Auxilliary LB role because that's like the only use he seem to have due to his weakness in core Midfield.8

Just look at any of the top 5 to 6 teams in the league and point out any of them that adopts this pattern of play that involves the DM/CM shuttling between the middle and LB position. To me, this pattern that involves Xhaka deputizing for Saka each time the latter attacks is only adopted to manage the shortage of manpower in the two roles. I mean we have an inexperienced youngster playing out of position in LB, and a Physical DM that has not played the DM role as it is required.

Arteta is only doing what a football manager is expected to do; MANAGE!

Just like I pointed out, when we have Tiernney back and probably a backup LB to replaced Kolasinac, we should sell off Xhaka and buy a proper DM. Xhaka is far from being a proper DM and should not be used as an Auxilary LB if and when we have a LB that can be trusted to do his LB job.

You won't find Ndidi, Fabinho, Kante, Mctominay and even Eric Dier playing Auxiliary LB when there is enough battle to be won in the middle of the park.

davodyguy:
If they can add CNN, definitely it's over for GOTV.

Those guys exploited people enough.

Though I'm off both DSTV and Startimes for now, but when I need to watch DOVE TV, I subscribe Startimes one day basic for ₦120 which lasts 2 days.

My combination now comprises
9e, 13e, then for local contents ,I have Nigcomsat and MyTV/Startimes for DoveTV

Lana1:
Una suppose do guard of honor for Watford when next they visit the Emirates. It's the least u can do.

Jodera:
Hmmm... To me, ozil isn't the worst o. The first header, I don't know who to blame tho, cos they just all allowed the guy free run, and as zonal marking, I don't expect ozil(of all people o), to chase that guy. At least, I know his limitations.
2nd goal isn't sokratis fault. That's fully on Leno for conceding the corner. Just kick your ball in, I trust Martinez for that. Also Luiz is to blame to. I mean head that ball out, he ducked away, allowing a simple tap in on the far post. It's so so sad. Further more, our attackers are bad...I still don't understand why he's alienating Martinelli of all people. When we all know he's a decent goalscorer. Not putting him in league, then Europa u benched him, wen you know he's our highest goal scorer, then you're putting him at extra time 2nd half. Like who does that. Me I'm still critical of Pepe tho.. He needs to learn how to hit the ball hard. Most of his ball are tame shots.

Also about the 442 ish, we'll need a very strong dmf and a cm with high work rate, which neither xhaka or ceballos is, thus our midfield will easily be bypassed. Also, we'll need clinical forwards, Pepe isn't clinical enough neither is lacazette. It might be good on paper but to be sincere, that formation won't work with our personnel we're parading.

Roland17:
Liverpool can now go ahead and win the league They have my full support and blessing.

Roland17:
Hopefully this is a learning curve for him.

Jodera:
Pepe needs to work on his output. Aside the west ham goal which was well taken as he cut in to his left and hit it to the far corner, his other tries have been worrisome. He two other goals(against man u and Newcastle) was really to do with positioning than actually cutting in to his left. In summary, he needs to add end product to his play. Watched the highlights of ystdy game and I felt if only he hit the ball hard and far corner with any of the 2 opportunities he had, (one in first half, one in 2nd half extra time), we could have been singing a different song now. We can't solely be depending on auba for goals, it's just not right.

Also laca in that team need to be moved on sincerely. He hasn't been a prolific goalscorer for us, gasses out quickly and even his holdup play is not top notch, not also good aerially. We need auba there or groom nketiah and martinelli there.

Also, Amn should compete the rb spot with bellerin. Bellerin have been subpar this past few weeks. A little push in terms of competition can boost him up, if not, then straight to bench.

All in all, I feel the 442 on pitch won't work, especially those two in the middle of the park(ceb and xhaka). Our midfield will be overrun and bypassed easily

Roland17:
Arteta needs to raise his hand for this one.

purpleprincess:
Yes Nigeria is that bad! What do you expect him to achieve playing for Nigeria? He has a better chance at winning international awards and laurels playing for England even if he doesn’t win any trophy with England. Atleast England can take him as far as semifinal of the euros and World Cup. Nigeria will hold him back, that’s the simple truth.

BlueRayDick:
U mention one african player that stayed in the limelight for so long but was dropped by cause of his black skin

I already told u the reason why the players don't get to play for the NT on a long term basis; it's simply because they fizzle out along the line and sometimes they even become non-starters in their club.

U mentioned chilwell earlier, if tomorrow Leicester gets a record signing left back and Chilwell is relegated to the bench, do u think England will call him like u are claiming?