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[quote author=calis2 post=50230513][/quote]With the same tp? Because its red. I blind scanned nothing.
Meanwhile, some nice stations are free on megachoice.

TRendlona:
That match no go easy at all.. But u know sei n God save una today

Na Godwin.

PulloutGameA1:
It's nice to see small clubs doing well, who knows maybe Arsenal will perform a Leicester this season.

It is still October and somebody is already scared?

kokaneprodigy:
At that age an RB playing with so much confidence in front of goal, Wenger should fine tune his contract extension ASAP.

He got a pay rise last week.

Don't forget he began as a RW, Wenger convert him to RB. With his pace and energy he has the ability to cover the length of the pitch.

He gives us options, an extra man in attack. The RW drops into the box while he- the RB becomes the RW. Very useful lad.

Abeg any solution to TVC news at 16e?

This match showed how the team have developed mentally. It was the sort of game we would have dropped points with our players just returning from international commitments.

Lets hope the luck continues with City dropping more points.

TRendlona:
U ehnn...

Hahahaaaa....

I wanted to keep you busy for like 3 days defending yourself. You get luck say dem dey sober mood now because of the impending calamity awaiting them on Monday.

Lana1:
trend-whatever-his name is no sabi anything na. Na why i no dey pay attention to his posts.

Hmmmmmmm? Ok o!

Pataki:
Is Perez on the bench?

Yes. Hope he gets a run today.

Pataki:
The beauty with all our attacking midfielders is that anyone of them can be a false 9. Very difficult for any defence to cope with that.

With no target man, defenders become confused on who to mark. Alexis, Walcott, Iwobi and Ozil swarm like bees.

TRendlona:
Presently, Man u can't be in classified as a big team cos they are off form.

Elrony, Chrisley024, chidexxy07, lana1,

pickabeau1:
Staying in a top club earning eight million pounds is no fun

Check, that's the lowest in a top club. He could earn more at PSG.

TRendlona:
Arsenal is there cos it's in a big league.

Those 3 words could make a classic. Speak volumes.

Many 'big' teams aren't 'there'.

solomonbrown64:
Look mate, you misinterpret what I wrote earlier...
.... I never said he was a failure, I actually said he managed our resources well especially around the stadium debt period but I am only saying that he didn't sacrifice nothing to the new state of the club today...

...... And please stop with the line of Psg wanted him and all that. Not leaving us for those clubs wasn't a sacrifice, it was just a choice. Besides, he was well paid by his employers at Arsenal and given free rein, the kind of power some certain managers will kill for today..

.... Leicester city won the league with average players, hell, Athletico Madrid did the same thing in Spain with an average squad too. So the talk on stadium debt stopping him from getting tropics is stale and not an excuse at all...

.... Wenger is a good manager no doubt but he didn't sacrifice anything to where the club is today, that's my point.

It's a sacrifice to stay in a top club having in which you received no transfer funds but rather or even worse have to sell your best every summer.

The likes of Jose, Pep, Carlo, LVG, Conte and most top managers wouldn't do it- not when they could get offers else where.

Do you know why Conte left Juve?

Answer: not enough transfer funds.

Hell even Steve Bruce left Hull City- a small club due to no transfers.

Guy you wicked o!

elrony:
Plus Nkwobi =Confam!!!!

If una no beat Liverpool, na you go pay. Pls add ugba for that menu.

elrony:
Solomonbrown64, did you say Wenger was "Loyal"?.

He's been hustling and getting paid,that's all!

Spy360 talking about "sacrifice",like Wenger collected half salary for one year!... onye nmanya!

Onye odekwu

solomonbrown64:
Careful there mate, I wouldn't add everyone to that list.
... Some of us here know that Arsene might have Been a very good manager in terms of resources but he didn't sacrifice nothing for this club.

.... His salary of eight million a year was untouched, rather the fans have been the one doing such a sacrifice with the high ticket fees asked of them over the years. .

.... So some times when my fellow fans put Wenger and Sacrifice together, I just laugh.

.... He was loyal yes but who wouldn't be for eight million a year?

Real and PSG wanted him and would even pay higher. Why on earth do you think FA wants him to coach England?

Think, before the Stadium Project, he won titles, doubles, unbeaten, got to UCL finals where he lost narrowly despite down to 10men against Barca.

It was when the project began that the titles stopped and focus moved to finishing 4th. Paying the debt meant selling his best players, getting no more transfer funds etc.

How many times must I explain this?

If you rate him as a failure well that's your opinion but it's irrelevant. Those to whose opinions are relevant think he is the best.

So sorry.

TRendlona:
If you wouldn't rate Wenger's performance as a failure then don't compare Arsenal with big teams again. Arsenal should be compared with the likes of Everon, Villarreal, Moncheglabach, Napoli etc

No problem, but we finished above United, Chelsea, Liverpool and City.

kokaneprodigy:
Na Sod dey fall my hand pass on this matter, quite alright Wenger could be stubborn at times, but bulk of the blame for those trophyless years should be put on the owners of the club and Wenger should be cut some slack. I reiterate Wenger over achieved with those lads that period, making it to UCL and never crashing out in the group stages against all odds. No matter how lean and inexperienced the squad was he never played the Europa. I see him as someone that placed the club's ambition at the time before his personal ambition.

With the books now looking good At least he's now turning up, we've spent over 50M on 2 experienced DMs this year alone, he signed experienced CB and CF and brought two younger players to be nurtured in CB(Rob Holding) and CF (Asano) depts as well, he sent players with potential but surplus to requirements on loan instead of selling them. This is someone that really cares abt the club's future and not some mercenary.

During an interview last week, Henry asked Wenger why he sacrificed he career for Arsenal.

Wenger replied that he had job offers everywhere but chose to leave his legacy at Arsenal. He continued that his desire was to make Arsenal stable enough to compete with the best in the world with or without him.

Henry responded with a 'thank you boss'...

But some Arsenal fans would sit at home and be wailing. Mtchew!

I only hope they don't realise their folly,...

elrony:

See them manufacturing and branding excuses for failure!!!!....
wailing Gayners!!!!

Don't let Liverpool beat you, if not...
Ana ma chi ochi...

joeace2020:
This my friends is how you rate the stupidity level of assnal fans.... don't use any IQ meter. Just guage any discussion or contribution they make with this.

Now it's not only that Howard Webb is influencing matches in the EPL but he can also call up colleagues in other countries to do same in the Champions League.

I have seen trolls come and go on this thread.. I have read stuffs that came from people who awarding them an IQ score in the negatives is being merciful but this... this is the cherry on top, the crowning glory of all your trolling endeavors. Congratulations my friend, you are now the undisputed champion!!!

[size=20]Thunder fire you. [/size] ;>

MrDojo:
Arsenal board know why they kept wenger ( they'll take what he has done over the years over some trophies )

I may not like him as I used to, but I cannot deny the fact that the man is a superb manager.

The reason he survived till now is becuz he met the board's expectations, for 5-f years I'll transfer budget was just 20M ( we never bought a player above 16M until cazorla I think ), we had extremely average players yet top 4 is sure, we sold our best players and Captain every season because we were trying to payback debts. For the record trophies were not our piority during this period everyone knows ( whether you admit it or not, Idgaf ).

With the signing of ozil over selling days were behind us, since we started splashing the cash again @ least we got 4 trophies ( 2 FA and 2 shields ).

Imagine making top 4 with players like djourou,senderos,denilson,chamakh,andre santos,eboue,Lord bendtner, etc

Abeg wenger tried, could he have done better? Maybe.

Imagine with the millions of pounds United, liverpool and chelsea have spent, they drop out of top4 or even 8.

Like him or hate him, he will go down as one of the best EPL mangers of all time.

And yes Madrid wanted him at one point barca too, psg and bayern, even fergie said he wanted wenger to be his successor @ one point ( please google it I dnt have a link for you I read it on goal or somewhere, I'm not giving you BS facts )

MrDojo no vex abeg, I don tire to explain this issue so I decided to use it to answer trendlona while highlihting some salient points.

kokaneprodigy:
Nobody is saying the teams in that period were good enough, everyone knew this, we were a selling club nurturing young and selling them once they mature.
going into the season we were always written off and that points to the fact that Wenger over achieved with those players. Particularly when you look at how much some rivals have spent and the so called quality they claim to have on paper and they still find it difficult to make it to Europe.

Excellent.

Many Arsenal fans fail to realise this. They have become gluttons because Wenger has overfed them with constant CL football.

Ask a honest Chelsea fan how he feels not playing European football. My brother is a Liverpool fan, and he tells me we are always lucky.

TRendlona:
My point is that Arsenal is not ready to make a great change. They are complacent.

You called it complacency. For us, we are allowing a group of young players mature together.

Changing personel every season does no good to team play. A new signing that disrupt team balance, that is why a good manager must carefully pick.

Take Liverpool's signing of Benteke as an example. Or Gotze to Bayern.

raumdeuter:
How was Bayern richer than Arsenal based on what you are seeing there?

Who were the players injured 90% of that season and who were their replacements. How many of those leicester players will Arsenal buy to replace theirs

Dayo you posted that Rich list. Don't tell me you can't add.

Bayern- £213.7m + £206.7m = £420.4m

Arsenal - £215.9m + £196.5m = £412.4m

Cleared?

On the injuries part, players like Walcott, Welbeck, Wilshere, Ramsey, Ox, Rosiscky, just to mention a few were out almost throughout the season.

Coupled with UCL commitments it was difficult.

Note that I am not giving an excuse, just trying to let you feel the situation on ground then.

BossKratos:
So you expect a 'dim witted underachieving gayner' to reason like you?

You go like to dey donate to charity wella!

See this failed human being.

AdisaOwala:
How can a British Ref officiate a CL game involving a premiership side for Fùcks sake?

See you? Have you not received rumours of refs deciding to pick out on someone in order to favour another? How do you think they are taming Costa? An influential ref can move his colleagues to act otherwise.

I am done with this lame discussion, before I start to lie to buttress my point.

raumdeuter:
RICHEST CLUBS
Revenue 2003/4 (2002/3)
1. Man Utd $323.8m ($330.2m)
2. Real Madrid $293.5m ($253m)
3. AC Milan $276.4m ($277.9m)
4. Chelsea $269.8m ($175.8m)
5. Juventus $267.4m ($286.8m)
6. Arsenal $215.9m ($196.5m)
7. Barcelona $210.3m ($162.2m)
8. Inter Milan $207.1m ($213.3m)
9. Bayern Munich $206.7m ($213.7m)
10. Liverpool $173.3m ($196.4m)
Source: Deloitte and Touche

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SPORT/football/02/17/england.united/

Now lets not forget that Juventus spent several years in relegation, missed CL football and SerieA football lost value as a result of the scandal

Yet Juventus are able to win league titles and still competitive in Europe till now

Are you really serious with this below?


Leicester 2016 Schmechel, Simpson, Morgan Huth, Fuchs, Drinkwater, Kante/Amartey, Mahrez, Albrighton, Vardy, Okazaki

Arsenal 2014/15 Sczezny, Debuchy, Mertersacker, Kocielny Gibbs, Arteta, Cazorla Walcott Ozil, Sanchez Giroud

Which team at the time is better? or you are just trying to twist this into what favors you?

Will you rather have the Leicester 11

Your richest club list supports my point.

Again I mentioned conditions. We had injuries to 90% of the season, add that to UCL commitments. Leicester had practically no injuries, apart from Vardy's suspension.

ChristineC:
you have not told us how Howard Webb or FA helped Sir Alex beat EPL counterparts home-away-neutral in European match ups.

Wasn't Webb a UEFA ref? Those who knew Fergie acknowledge he could do anything to win. Including introducing 'Fergie time'.

Oasis007:


You think he's truly a SHE! LOL! On Nairaland she's a Female, but outside Nairaland...... hmmmm!!!

It's like a copied Assignment - *in Wizkid Voice* I can't explain!!!

I suspect say na Coogar self. ChristineC, sHe talks like him.

raumdeuter:
Why cant Arsenal win a league title in the last dozen yrs whether its once in a while or a regular occurence. Rich clubs have won, A club without means have won, So whats Arsenals excuse
2- What is the meaning of this question
3- Refer to 2
4- When the other big clubs let down, why isnt that Arsenal was the one to benefit from it?
5- If we call Leicester failing to defend a league failure, what do we call Arsenal failing to win once in a decade?
6- There are enough quality players in Arsenal over the course of the past decade to have won a league title

Objection sir, you didn't answer any question.

1. Since Blackburn in 1995, no other team have won the league except the usuals.

2. Every other club apart from the top 4 are 'Leicesters' and should win the league too since you don't need top quality to win a league- according to you.

3. Don't even compare Arsenal with Juventus or Bayern, before 2006 they were richer than us. Our stadium project places us above them today in terms of revenue.

4. On quality, Leicester 2016 were in a better condition quality wise than Arsenal before 2015. Injuries and UCL apart, Arsenal would have won titles given the quality of our manager. We still challenged for it though and managed to finish top 4 every season against all odds.

5. Lastly, that we finished second last season is statement of intent, still against all odds- injuries.

donjazet:
Obviously, it was an error. I meant attack. But if you reply me like this again. Dis place go hot for me and you.

chidexxy007:
@ur last line, am i supposed to b afraid or wat? lol.
U were sleep writing abi....

I just decided to pull up 2 quotes from Scummies thread just to show how hilarious they are over there. More...

SIRcumalot:
I hear say lallana sef don injure.
God dey hear prayer sha.

eph12:
Na so we happy say Aguero no go play o. E come be like say e for better if he play sef

Jokes United!

Lana1 see una life?