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Eruditor:
Leicester won't have won the league had Pep been managing AFC. He won't have bottled the league in 2007/08 when AFC finished 3rd with 83 points compared to CFCs 85 and Uniteds 87. Pep would have repeated as champ in 05 after the unbeaten year. He would have done so 2003 and 99 as well. In all these years mentioned please go and look at AFCs points compared to the winners at certain points. Wenger bottled the league in those years.

Don't get emotional on me. I am just calling it as I can see it. City have floundered this year and I am not making excuses for him or them. But this season is not over- not even close. Let us (you and the hating crew) ridicule him after 38 games not 21. That's all I am saying.

Your comparison is faulty because your are looking at isolated cases.

The best way to compare is to look at the table come end of season. Simple.

diggz:
Do you even know what football is all about? You think is to pass upandan with no purpose and call it attractive football abi?

Oga....I can see why you support arsssnal.

Na rubbish footie make Abramhamovic pursue Mourinho in 07.

He asked why fewer fans were attending Chelsea matches at Stamford Bridge compared to Arsenal matches at Emirates despite that Chelsea were back to back champions, both are in London and even Emirates is bigger.

When Mou tried to play attractive, Chelsea dropped to 7th position after about 10games. Mou got fired!

Eruditor:
To be fair to you I see your point. But the reality again is the pundits know more than us and they know why they voted MCFC. They could have made the same excuse everyone seems to be making now and claim he was overrated thus expecting another team bar city to win it but that was not the case. Let us assume CFC will win this one and Pep has 3 more years on his contract. If he wins the next 3 is it still hype? What about 2 of the next 3?

The fact is even if he goes on to win the title this season you guys would revert to saying City have the best squad or that he spent $180M.

The pundits gave their overwhelming support to Pep because of his achievements in Spain and Germany coupled with the quality of players he had, considering that Pelligrini finished 4th with the same group. They thought Pep was the king. What they fail to note was that England is a whole new test altogether. I think that must have affected Pep given the expectations.

If Pep wins the next 2 or 3 he is the best.

If we say City has the best squad should it surprise you? Personally I think that goes to United and Chelsea, considering the injuries at City.

Eruditor:
LOL. Wenger won a double in 98. 99-01 he watched United win 3 titles back to back to back because he couldn't galvanize a double-winning team to win again. 02 Wenger wins another double. 2003, he watches A subpar United snatch the title from him after leading by 12 points. 04, Wenger goes unbeaten. Then he watches CFC win 2 titles over that unbeaten team. So my question to you is, why can't Wenger just repeat as a league champion seeing that he evidently had the best teams following his league winning years?

It is not easy to win 3 titles on the trot in 2 separate leagues. If we claim he inherited a good Bayern team (which he did, but the argument about Barca is thrash) can we agree that that Bayern team of 2013 was not the one of 2015 before he left? The point is, he was able to tweak things here and there to maintain a good squad for someone else to inherit and he repeated as champ convincingly each time. He did same with Barca even when RM kept changing managers and buying players. For that alone, he is better than Wenger. Reason: even if Wenger was able to win a league title with those teams (LOL). Wenger would have not won a second or third with either teams in close succession because his history tells us so.

The season is not over, till then we can't assess his performance with a city squad that most recently finished 4th. As it stands, Conte is the man of the year because his team is punching above their weights. But Pellegrini's city team that finished as champs in 2013 were third after 27 games. That is, 6 games after 21 games which is where the league is at today. Calm your horses.

The point is not comparing the Arsenal team of 04 to Bayern or Barca.

It is a give away to predict that Bayern would win the title in Germany.

Not so in England, that's the point.

You win Bundesliga with Bayern? So what?

The real test is here- EPL!

Thank goodness all the top coaches have assembled. Lets see how each fares.

At start of season the hype on Guardiola was unheard of. See predictions before season began...

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/37040156

Out of 34,

18 pundits gave it to City simply because of Pep.

12 gave it to Man United just because of Mourinho

3 said Chelsea.

1 said Tottenham.

That's why I said Pep's got to win it else its all hype.

Eruditor:
Based on what you saw at a certain point this season Pochettino was not a good coach (UCL form); at another point Conte was not a good coach (LFC and AFC losses); At another point Mou was not a good coach either and now Pep is not.

The only problem with this is the hypotheticals. If X did not happen. If Y did not happen etc. Always wait for the league season to end then you can give your full assessment. In Pep's first league title we squandered a 12point lead to RM and where within 4 before we played them at Santiago. Bearing in mind, we had CFC away on the Tues (in a make or mar UCL semis).

What followed was a 6-2 thrashing of RM and a 1-1 draw at CFC. We ended up winning a treble and subsequently 6 trophies in a year span.

The message is: calm down, the season is not over. CFC look money for the title while the rest of the lot are scrambling for 2nd-4th. If it makes you happy, Wenger will not win the league with CFCs, City's, Tottenham or even Uniteds team. So how do you rate Wenger? If great, that's good because Pep is better than him.

I already said I like Pep because of his style. But his style only brings trophy if he has good quality players like he had at Barcelona.

diggz:
Oga.....what is more attractive than winning a league with the highest point?

I know your idea of beautiful footie is to pass upandan...! Mine is to win matches in any ruthless manner possible.

Fvck Wengay n fraudiola!

Everybody wants to win. How you win determines how good you are.

Win with any means- good

Win with attractive footie- better

TRendlona:
I'm not overrating him. He has won multiple so he's worth the hype.

If Pep had been coach of Valencia and not Barcelona, Leverkusen and not Bayern etc would he have won multiple titles?
It could be possible. But...

Based on what we are seeing now, I strongly doubt it.

United fans dreading a backlash from Gunners...

Evildoer - o kwala gi! Chrisley024 - your thunder wey for fire you dey warm up Eph12 - you are madt
Una lucky

Kagawa10:
Why did Henderson become fit for this game na!

Still, we should be thrashing this Liverpool side consisting the likes of Klavan, Can and that young arnold....

United just missing chances. If they up the tempo, one of two things will happen; equalise or get trashed.

TRendlona:
I was actually disappointed at the result but that doesn't mean he isn't a top coach.

So stop overating him.

raumdeuter:
So how does one win titles without correct use of players and tactics?

Some coaches win by employing tactics that produce attractive football. Eg Pep, Wenger, Klopp etc.

Some win but with unattractive football. Eg Mourinho.

I give more respect to the former because they choose the more difficult route.

kokaneprodigy:
who cares

Then stop complaining.

raumdeuter:
I am not sure Pep needs your respect though, Your respect is already reserved for the likes of Wenger who havent won a CL in their lifetime.

Honestly I love Pep, but I want to be objective.

You say he is the best manager simply because he won titles with Bayern and Barca.

I say he is the best manager because of his use of players and tactics. Same respect I have for Wenger, Poch, Klopp etc.

Few managers will have the courage to play Pep's way.

kokaneprodigy:
that fluke goal Giroud scored? Smh

His goal and that of Sanchez are similar.

If you like call it cornflakes, he scored kpom kwem!

Pep proving me right time and time again. Nevertheless, if he can turn things around and still win this league, he will deserve my respect.

Cc Trendlona, Raumdeuter

kokaneprodigy:
Sanchez was pissed cos Giroud would have played for 90mins if he wasn't injured, only for him (Sanchez) to play there for few mins and get subbed after a GOAL.
It was an opportunity for him to try beating Costa on goal tally.

Wenger took him off after securing the win and he himself scoring so as to save his hunger for the next match.

Managers often do so to a high scoring striker to avoid a nonchallant attitude in the following game.

Sanchez could hit a brace in that game and quench is hunger for goals.

On Giroud, we hate that he scored again don't we.

According to our agreement, he gets to start next match if he is fit.

eph12:
No way city is losing that match. Go figure

Then its bad news for United.

Roland17:
Really? After this long, I think the embolden should be conclusive. Our leader is in the dugout, thus, it is difficult to motivate the lads on the pitch.

We need leaders on the pitch not in the dugout.

We always start slow. We should begin games the way we end them.

Alonso. The rejected stone.

What are the odds that Manurre will remain 6th after this round of matches?

Scrappy goals




















3 pooooiiiiiinnnnnnttttttttsssssss!

mystikal:
Lucky us.

That was a penalty

You get eye? You should have notice Koa withdrawing from making a contact.

Not in this present world. This Jamie Vardy style penalty is being frowned at this season.

Bull poo!
Giroud again

Ramsey na goat nor be lie.

Another slow start. This team seem to lack leaders.

sod09:
yes u re rite hes d best in d league

He should be. Afterall he is a gunner.

Kagawa10:
In a 3-man midfield set up where he's had a free role? He's only had 3 assists in the league, Ibra as a striker has 3 and should have had more.

BTW, I could recall how we suddenly had our tail between our leg as soon as Lallana came on. De gea saved more than their keeper did in that encounter.

Herrera has been ok. Nothing he's done is out of the world. Personally, I will have Kante in his role every day.

Before nko?

Who says otherwise

Come see why dem sack person for Barcelona ontop Messi mata o

iheanyi40:
bro abeg go modify m
Na play I DE play biko nwanne

After you don scatter thread like oke abi?
Iyaf Modified it. You better modify those your quotes too.

iheanyi40:
wetin b dis, gerrarahere I own here

No worry I don signal mods. Dem go give you chair siddon for like 24hrs.

Muk come and see one animal that needs a small ban.

sod09:
better mf
i tot he's a dm.... wats wrong wit dis guy, he has been d only dm we av for a long tym
apart for dis season wen d man bought xhaka,so who was competing wit him

A dm is also a mf. And by the way, even if Coq was our only dm, he didn't give us reasons to need more.