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ollah1:
The same unheralded team fought for title last season while defeating you in the process. In case you don't know, Poch has always been a problem for Pep right from their La Liga days

What of Wenger? He has beaten Guardiola na. Mourinho nko. Klopp? Whether there will be more only time will tell.

raumdeuter:
That is because the teams in the EPL are of lower quality just like the Nigerian league. When the teams are quality we would see them in Europe doing their stuff

Quality is irrelevant to the argument. Competitiveness is.

The unpredictability (oyibo ) of the EPL makes it standout really. Burnley beat Liverpool. Liverpool beat Arsenal. Watford beat United. Ttoenham beat City.

Who can beat Bayern. Abeg who?

ollah1:
Pep doesn't have anything to prove and EPL isn't yardstick. He is only there for the money. We see how EPL teams play in Europe. If indeed it's competitive, the teams representing them should prove it to the world but alas, they are always disgraced.

Pep's team got beaten by an unheralded Poch's team. That's one point already.

SlaughterGang:
Wheelchair has a better chance of being recalled January than him giving up.

B2B has a better chance of Ballon DOr than him letting go.

raumdeuter:
Pep never won a treble while in Germany

EPL is very weak thats why coach after coach come in and win it in their debut season
No team is able to dominate because they are all equal in mediocrity, tell me if Leicester would make top 4 in any serious league. That is why in the CL we can see the same team making semi finals almost every season and we barely see EPL teams there.

When Man Utd was strong they were dominating the league. Man Utd won 5 out of 7 leagues between 2007 and 2013

Its like telling us Nigerian league is competitive because most teams win at home, and different mediocre teams win every yr, Kano Pillars, Rangers, Enyimba Dolphins, Bayelsa United does not make it anywhere close to the Egyptian league that Al Ahly wins regularly

You that is the point you are not getting.

Nigerian league is more competitive than Egyptian league, that is why Enyimba and Pillars could only enjoy SPELLS. Al Ahly and Zamalek are dominating the Egyptian league. Just as Celtic is dominating the Scottish league. Who is dominating the EPL? Tell us and we will accept.

ollah1:
The managers u made mentioned of also dominated UCL. What would you say about that?

Winning the CL doesn't mean domination. Look, no one is saying they aren't good. In fact Pep may be the best. BUT we need to prove it first in the competitive EPL.

SlaughterGang:
Arsenal has a better chance of winning the league than you have of him to stop being stupid.

United has a better chance of having a taste of UCL this season than of him giving up.

raumdeuter:
EVen if you take out Mancini I have given you 3 coaches who won the EPL the first attempt, Mourinho broke the point record at first attempt, Pellegrini won his first title in Europe at first attempt, even Ranieiri who has failed for 30yrs won his first league title ever in the EPL

That alone shows how useless the EPL is

Pep dominated La liga in every season he spent there, including his first season as a manager.

Enrique took over and is doing exactly the same thing.

Pep dominated Bundesliga in every season he spent there too, winning trebles upon trebles.

Before him was Henckles who also dominated with the same team.

Dayo, which club has dominated EPL in every single season with different managers?

EPL is more competitive. Give up!

wonlasewonimi:
You should try and dream about winning EPL and CL too, when you wake up remember to wipe the drool.

The world's most expensive squad ever should at least be playing the UCL.

Or dreaming about it!

Most Expensive Squad In The World
1. Manchester United
2. Real Madrid
3. Manchester City
4. Barcelona
5. Chelsea

Funny that money can't give you UCL football.

This Life?

raumdeuter:
Dominance is when you set a record that over 10yrs later they are still chasing it. Pep did not set the point record in Germany, Mourinho set the point record in the EPL at first attempt

This EPL must be really useless

Obviously you have no clue of what dominance is about. So in your mind Leicester City dominated EPL?

As someone rightly screamed...

Nairalanders eeeppppp!

Meanwhile...

I really enjoyed our win yesterday more than the rest this season. I love winning controversially. Kai!

My dream win is...

With the scores at 0-0 vs Manure at Old Trafford, deep into stoppage time just a second left, with Manure pressing, suddenly...

Xhaka snatches the ball off Pogba with studs raised high- the ref not calling the foul, he squares to Ozil who finds Sanchez,
he is offside but the lines man's flag stays down,
Sanchez tries to beat De Gea, he couldn't, De Gea pushes the ball but Sanchez dives, a penalty! Sanchez picks himself up to take it,
oops! De Gea parries it only for Walcott to knock in the rebound. Goooooaaaaaaal! Then...

Pheeeewwww! Ref blows the final whistle, 1-0 to The Arsenal.

raumdeuter:
A record is a record, The point record in a first season is the biggest sign of dominance total dominance. The EPL has been running for over 100yrs, One coach came and in his first season broke the record of points

Its like saying a team went unbeaten but didnt win the league

Dominance is not one season wonder. Dominance is winning all available trophies for 3 seasons rolling.

Up Pep!

Down Burnthisleaguena

edoyad:
http://www.the42.ie/pep-guardiola-bayern-munich-bundesliga-2770146-May2016/

Now I don't know Maths very well owing to the course I barely completed, but one thing I know is that if you have an 80% win rate for 3 seasons in a league, that league should be sending your name to Vatican for Sainthood.

Sainthood? You got me cracking man. Just imagine Saint Guadiola.

raumdeuter:
Mourinho came to the EPL and won in his first season breaking the point total
Ancelotti came to the EPL and won in his first season scoring over 100 goals
Mancini came to the EPL and won in his first season
Pellegrini came to the EPL and won in his first season. The first title in his entire career in Europe

After 30yrs of failure all over EUrope Ranieiri finally won a league title, Guess where? In the same useless EPL

They all got found out soon after. None of them dominated.

Or maybe you mean Pep isn't as good as the aforementioned?

raumdeuter:
How has is going to be found out that wasnt done already in other leagues? He lost games in other leagues, He will lose games in EPL.

He will lose much more games in the EPL. Not just against top teams but even against relatively weaker teams.

Welcome to the EPL.

raumdeuter:
What is the truth twisting? That he lost 5 games when he won the treble in Barcelona?

Or that Mourinho dominated the EPL breaking the points record in his first season

The actual argument has always been that Pep's dominance was as a result of him being in a monopolistic league, with all the best players and that by coming to the EPL he would be found out.

I am not saying he is not good, no. What I am saying is that he cannot dominate the EPL the way he did Bundesliga.

Henry tests Wenger's stats...

Q1. Which player did you used the most?
W: Kolo Toure
H: Wrong. Patrick Vieira

Q2. Which player did the substitute most?
W: Theo Walcott
H: Wrong. Dennis Bergkamp.

Q3. Which club did you score the most goals?
W: Liverpool
H: Wrong. Tottenham.

Score: 0/3

Wenger?

raumdeuter:
Anyone who thought that must be very foolish since he doesn't have such records anywhere he has coached before

Especially when he lost as many as 5 league games in a season in the Bundesliga and La Liga even when he won the treble

Your mouth go bend o. With all these truth twisting. Only if I could draw up a post of yours.

Di Matteo should just give up coaching and join punditry. At least its safer...

raumdeuter:
And he didnt lose when he was in Bundesliga or La Liga?

OK we thought he wouldn't lose in EPL?

raumdeuter:
And he didnt lose when he was in Bundesliga or La Liga?

OK we thought he wouldn't lose in EPL?

ChristineC:
If there's any heart to be taken here I think it will be for the fans of the 12 years+ barren joke

Oh so the thing really pain you? Sorry o!

When next you wanna spend £90m on a barber also get a clipper for £9 so he can be useful.

bykebyke:
It took a former La Liga coach to beat him though.

It is this kind of comment that has made Niger Delta Militants and IPOB to keep fighting Nigeria.

@donjazet

Here are predictions about who could have won the league last season by all BBC pundits...

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/33764700

Here is their predictions for this season...

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/37040156

Summary:
about 80% thought Chelsea would win the league in 2016, due to their strong squad.

That pecentage droped to less than 10% for 2017 after the mishap of the previous season.

Conclusion:
based on squad depth, Chelsea had a better squad last season. This season, many still believe they can pose a challenge despite little changes.

donjazet:
Chelsea never had the best squad!!! Man city has always had the best and balanced squad in england for the last 5 years.. What they lacked was the mental strength.
That was the basic difference between chelsea and man city in chelseas title winning season and that is credit to mourinho. Jose in his first season said we were little horses who he was grooming. He then built the mental strength in the team hence the consistency in the team and eventual cup wins.



It is both. Willan shouldn't be in chelsea! His stats suggest that. Ivanovich. If you look at it the current chelsea team is average at best and there is no adequate replacement.



That statement there contradicts your entire post. You are correct. As you said a club should have a system of play which runs across all level. Are you suggesting mou is responsible for that?? That happens ONLY in barca. There is no other club that can say the same. Chelsea's under 21 have been successful for a lot of years under a guy named adi vivesh ( not sure of correct spelling) who has used the 352 formation at the youth level for many years. This was very different from mou.



Conte can adapt to any formation. He is still looking for the best for this team and that requires patience. He is not a magician that would change things over night. And it is a disadvantage, that he has the likes of willan, Oscar, Ivanovich, matic Mikel, etc to work with.

As a Chelsea fan you surely do have more insight about the club than myself. But from my own perspective, the frequent changing of tacticians must have affected the way systems operate from the youth team to the senior team. Changing managers leads to technical deficiencies in areas where adequate beefing is not made, and lack of transition from lower grades. All these are results of the 'win now' mentality.

Take Arsenal for example, the cohesion, blend, and timely upgrades enables the club to consistently finish above board despite the lack of quality.

The likes of Iwobi, are simple rewards for maintaining tactical consistency at all levels.

I still do believe that Chelsea has the best all round squad after Man City. The quality the club has at youth level is enough to sustain a title challenge,- when things are done right.

edoyad:
My question is, where was Oxlade blazing that ball to in the first place ? He had the goal post right there in front of him, how exactly did it end up on Kos's body ?

He did well to get into position, just as Koscielny, but his childish mind wouldn't let him calmly send the ball home. Besides this, I think it was Kos' boot that got the ball, Ox was just interfering. WE WERE LUCKY.

Spur's win over City is a proof of the point some of us have been trying to make as regards Pep's supposed 'master manager' stints at both Barca and Bayern.

He must have learnt a good lesson today, that EPL is not La Liga or Bundesliga. That here any team can be beaten by any team. That tiki taka 'nor be for England'. That for the fact that you won 'trebles' in a monopolised league, doesn't mean it will work everywhere else. That there are still top managers (Poch, Wenger, Koeman, etc) who don't make too much noise.


Oops! Jose?

[quote author=ChristineC post=49866365][/quote]You are pained because manure is not in the mix? Even with the menopausal striker and their world's most expensive barber2barber midfielder?

Take heart baby, life's not fair.

@donjazet
For the past 3 seasons, Chelsea has had the best squad in the EPL. This time it is City.

Infact, most pundits thought Chelsea would win the league back to back after their triumph 2 years ago.

The problem (I think) with the Chelsea squad now is a matter of adequate rather than quality replacements.

Obviously you are a Jose fanboy, but actually Jose spoiled Chelsea fans with his 'buy-buy win now' mentality thus failing to integrate young players. A club should have their system of play which runs accross all levels.

So, yes there is an imbalance, but that is as a result of changing managers cum changing systems and not the team per se. Conte tried to continue the Jose way, but has discovered it is not working for him.

That is, in the Jose way there is balance but in the Conte way there is no balance caused by lack of wingbacks.

Against Hull Conte went for his own system 3-5-2. This system requires the use of wingbacks which Chelsea lack.

Therefore, Conte's failure to acquire wingbacks (off course Alonso) is what is creating your 'percieved' imbalance.

Manchester City
Tottenham
Arsenal
Liverpool

One of these teams will win the league. The others to finish in the top 4.

Oasis007:
Seem FA wants Arsene Wenger to end his Reign as Arsenal Manager with a Trophy?!

Is the Ref blind to see that clear handball?! PDP has resuscitated..... but in the form of Arsenal!

I didn't see it.

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