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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 8:37pm On Nov 04, 2016
TRendlona:
FYI when Enrique was still Celta Vigo's coach, the club clinched to their highest position ever in La liga (7th position) before their present coach took them higher.. Now lemme ask u a question. If anybody can coach Barca and win titles, why did Martino go trophy less in 2014 when he had players like Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar, Dani Alves, Busquets, Pique, Mascherano, Jordi Alba and your god Alexis Sanchez in his first eleven?
Martino was less than average. He picked quarrels with Messi and co which led to his downfall. Yet he finished second. That's how bad it can get.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:40pm On Nov 04, 2016
raumdeuter:
So why didnt he win the treble in 2004?

Or why didnt Ferguson win more than 2 CL in his 20yrs at Man utd if he was not beatable
Understand my point please.

Take United as they are now, if a manager comes in now and takes them to the top of the league by end of season without additional spending, that becomes an exceptional achievement.

Could Pep become an exceptional manager? Yes.
If he can win the league and UCL with this City team.

If he wins just the league, I don't see how that makes him exceptional, a blipping Pellegrini did so.

Blanc won league titles for fun at PSG yet got sacked. Why? He had resources not to just win the French league (any asshole can) but to also win the UCL. Had he won the CL, he would still be PSG manager today. Get it?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:33pm On Nov 04, 2016
chrisooblog:
i disagree with you bro Pep is most definitely an exceptional manager.

at the time he was appointed barca was at a low period in their history. he came in with relatively no experience yet transformed the playing style, turning them into a footballing force of nature. you might say ''o but he had messi'' but he was intelligent enough to know in which position messi would truly flourish. like ferguson did with c.ronaldo and wenger with theirry henry. Pep showed that football as much as is all about results can be achieved in a beautiful way.

even his stint at bayern was not just routine like you are trying to paint it. before pep came bayern was not as dominant. dortmund won a couple of bundesliga titles of bayern before Pep came. even the great juup heynkeyes (sorry if i spelt it wrong) struggled to win 3 bundesliga titles back to back in style. everyone says pep had a poor time at bayern munich yet he won an average of 2-3 titles per season. if that is poor then may a poor manager like pep handle my team. no EPL experience yet his team is top of the league where more seasoned EPL veterans like wenger, pocchentino, mourinho (lol) are playing second fiddle. give it to pep na tactical guru.
From your point of view, Blanc too was exceptional. Enrique that was a flop at Roma and Celta Vigo is exceptional. Nonsense.

Any average manager can win titles with Barca and Bayern. That is not exceptional.

If an exceptional coach is in Barca or Bayern he should not just win the titles, he should also do it unbeaten. That is because already, he has the best squad by a mile.

If Barca beat Celta 5-0, that is no news. If Celta beat Barca 1-0, that is news. An exceptional coach should never lose a game if he is coach of Barca. sad
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 4:06pm On Nov 04, 2016
raumdeuter:
Was Ferguson very beatable in his time at Man Utd that was why he won only 2 CL in 20yrs

Wenger exceptional yet he didnt win any EUropean trophy in his entire career. Jose was very beatable at every time in his career

You stated that a manager cant be exceptional if he is beatable yet you are giving us a list of very beatable managers and calling them exceptional
There is a difference between beatable and beaten. Wenger was beatable in 2004, but was unbeaten.

This little understanding could end this.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 4:04pm On Nov 04, 2016
Lana1:
Mourinho is a fóol. Mkhitaryan hasn't played in weeks. And according to him(Mourinho) Mkhi was not fit to play in an easy home game vs Burnley. But he throws him on in a tough European game that we are losing 2-0 away from home?? And then goes on to say shît about Mkhi after the game. That man is mad. No sane manager go dey mke those kind decisions.
Mou failed to upgrade when he should have. By exonorating himself, he shuts himself out from self improvement.

Mkhi came to United as arguably the best player in the Bundesliga. If Mou can't make him play, then whose fault?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 3:59pm On Nov 04, 2016
chrisley024:
Same with Wenger
No. Wenger has consistently delivered CL football at the least.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 3:58pm On Nov 04, 2016
MrTA:
We don go beg Eva? undecided
United for give am job make her mind rest.
Afterall pikin wey say him mama nor go sleep, how himself go sleep?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 3:37pm On Nov 04, 2016
Moyes had the best record after early games compared to LvG and Jose. It's name that is just keeping Mou up till this time.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:33pm On Nov 04, 2016
It looks like Ramsey will replace Cazorla against Spurs. Won't sound nice for some people.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 7:03am On Nov 04, 2016
dmcdad:
Where's GBR1? cheesy
Where is elrony? cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 6:49am On Nov 04, 2016
raumdeuter:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/624/cpsprodpb/089D/production/_92250220_telegraph.jpg

[size=28pt]Jose Mourinho: Man Utd manager questions players' commitment[/size]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37867990
Na so e dey start.

Now he wants to defend his career.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 6:47am On Nov 04, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
DJ play me ,this world is not my own
Evil Troll
cheesy

Carry Go
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:39am On Nov 04, 2016
sod09:
Claudio rainieri is an exceptional manager till date.... Day won d epl last season ND remain unbeaten even yet to concede
Yes last season he won the league with a low budget and average players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 8:54pm On Nov 03, 2016
eph12:
Mourinho no need this match. We know what he is capable of when he needs a match stick and 1 gallon of petrol
cheesycheesycheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 8:48pm On Nov 03, 2016
Nihilist:
The only Ibra we acknowledge is Ba. cool
Ibra's BRA can't save his sagging titties...

cheesycheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 3:49pm On Nov 03, 2016
raumdeuter:
First that wasn't Pep Bayern that was Juup Heynckes Bayern




So in the history of football for over a 100yrs has there been any coach who wasnt beatable?, Or you mean there have been no exceptional coach ever in the history of football.

If you mean that there have never in history been an exceptional coach then is Pep God that he should be unbeatable?
Winning Laliga or Bundesliga with teams like Barca and Bayern possessing such calibre of players is only doing the obvious. Any average coach can achieve that.

So without counting those, an exceptional coach is one who is the major reason for his team's success and who does that consistently at least over a period of time. In other words, one must do EXCEPTIONAL things to be an exceptional manager.

Sir Alex Ferguson was an exceptional manager, especially in 1999. Wenger was an exceptional manager in 2004, same as Jose.

I absolutely have no reason to view Pep as an exceptional manager so far UNTIL IF HE CAN WIN THE TREBLE with Man City at the least considering the array of talent at his disposal.

Had he been unbeaten in the league, I'd say OK let him win it just as Arsene did in 2004, but that has been defeated already.

No doubt he is a very good manager, but as yet he hasn't done anything exceptional.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 6:41am On Nov 03, 2016
When the cat's out...


[size=16] Scummies play [/size]
cheesycheesycheesy
Goodmoaning...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 6:34am On Nov 03, 2016
This morning I was just thinking 'how many fans in the world would love that Ozil-goal?'.

I am pretty sure two people wouldn't- Kroenke and Gazidis.

It would cost them £100k more every week from next summer and a 'shut your mouth' negotiation with Ozil's agent.

Sign up Ozil or die niccurs!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:07pm On Nov 02, 2016
raumdeuter:
Probably because Pep deployed superior tactics something Wenger, Pellegrini and other Barca victims in the past were not able to figure how to do
Maybe you have not considered personel in your analogy. And by the way, Wenger has defeated Barca and Bayern some few times as well.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 5:03pm On Nov 02, 2016
raumdeuter:
spy360 and co will form like they didnt see a Pep coached team outplay and outshoot Barcelona yesterday
I think Pep is a brilliant coach. We should just not over-rate him. He lost last time, but this time he won against the same team. Similar to when his Bayern won at the Emirates 3-1 but lost at Alianz 0-2 to Arsenal.

He is a very good coach but not exceptional. Right now there are no exceptional coaches, everyone is beatable. We only have a class of very good coaches, and Pep is there.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 1:17pm On Nov 02, 2016
ColtPython:
Ramsey go just dey bomb forward like brainless ram grin
Arsene seems to like it.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 9:34am On Nov 02, 2016
21Savagw:
Ordinary ludogrets, It's nice to see a small club like arsenal putting up brave under dogs fight but we all know the end result.
Ordinary Ludogoret are playing UCL. If you are a Man United fan, you should be ashamed of yourself.


Very soon, hopefully you will get to play Ludo too. Sorry but not in the CL. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:29am On Nov 02, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
Clattenburg to ref the game against Spurs.
I prefer him to Dowd. Clattenburg makes the game flow, and makes less costly errors.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 9:27am On Nov 02, 2016
mystikal:
I think I would join join my opinion with the opinion of those who think Giroud and Ramsey need to be starting from the bench. Our attack blunt small today. Our cause was helped a bit by the fact that Ludo has a terrible defence. This team against spurs might struggle.

How long is cazorla, walcott and bellerin out for by the way or was it just precautionary?
In as much as I also would prefer Sanchez upfront against Spurs, I cannot judge a team based on just two players playing a CL away game far away in Bulgaria. A game which they both contributed to the victory. Na wa o. Make una cool down now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 6:00am On Nov 02, 2016
On the news list, I see something like...

1. City dominates Barca
2. Arsenal snatch win to qualify
3. KDB takes centre stage
4. Wenger hails Ozil
5. New FA charge for Mourinho


cheesycheesycheesy

Good moning scummies...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:13am On Nov 02, 2016
United vs Ludogorets

This is a possible fixture.





















But not in the Champions League. Before manure fans start having erecttions. cheesycheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:08am On Nov 02, 2016
sod09:
make no body mention my name here oo
Sod09
cheesycheesycheesy
nor be me talk am o! cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:07am On Nov 02, 2016
Lana1:
Useless Team grin grin
Vain repetition = symtom of madness

Afrodoc come check your man o... cheesy
If him enter market, e don finish be that. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 12:02am On Nov 02, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
So cos Ramsey had an assist means we should endure playing with a blunt attack.
Those guys are better from the bench abeg,
Better from the bench true. That doesn't mean they are useless when starting. This was like a second team performance and they handled it well. Take away the shaky start (which can happen any where) they had a brilliant performance. They showed great character and tenacity to come from 2goals down to win the game.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:58pm On Nov 01, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
Oga leave this epistle, I'm not looking at the goals I'm looking at the overall performance.
Our attack was really blunt this is not the Arsenal I'm getting use to seeing jor. Is it until we lose y'all will C this? We couldn't even string nice passes in their box, kept losing passes here and there.
Wenger had better not start those two on Sunday, I go vex gan.
This was a CL away game in BULGARIA, that could give you malaria. Abeg free them. They made their contributions.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:53pm On Nov 01, 2016
Lana1:
Useless team!!
If topping both PL and your CL group is useless, then being useless has a new definition.

I believe in your dictionary, Manure is useful. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Spy360(m): 11:50pm On Nov 01, 2016
kokaneprodigy:
Can y'all see how disjointed out attack was with the introduction of Giroud and Ramsey.
Ramsey assisted Giroud for the second goal. Are you not just fault finding? shocked

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