₦airaland Forum

SIRcumalot:
Am already doing what I didn't plan to do
LVG came to us as a master tactician I mean we applauded the man for a changing keepers for a penalty shoot out
The man didn't attain this level playing in this manner.
And we saw what he did with Holland in the world cup
I say this because I have to justify some of his action I can't rationale in my mind.
I think Martial as been striking for us most times now even against bournemouth.
And the rooney thing is just team politics any other bizzare sub I just make peace with myself by saying LVG knows.
I still want him out of the club by mid season

LvG's current system which is a 4-3-3 is different from what he used at the WC, a 3-5-2.

Nevertheless I think van Gaals feelawsawfee of total football can be very effective, the problem I think is that the players aren't really into it which is a huge problem.

Every system is good, and every system has it's own weakness. Failure depends on whether the weakness has been found out (as in the case of Jose) or if the playing staff is wrong as in the case of LvG.

SIRcumalot:
We've been lucky to know one manager for more than twenty years, but I don't see this attacking football style as our philosophy infact I see a lot of similarity between jose and SAF.

Attacking philosophy is "Arsenals way" Wenger's Arsenal used to play better football than we. Could ever hope for and for awhile rivaled Barcelona for "most fun team to watch"
(No wonder they swap players back and forth)
Wenger lived and mostly died playing that way.
Man utd on the other hand are very pragmatic(which is the one word that describes Jose best)
We adapt to whatever play style get us the WIN you just have to watch an Old gunners VS utd game to see what I mean.
I hope you understand that the time it takes for us to establish this said blueprint we're slowly on our way to becoming Liverpool.

SAF always got the best of Arsene because he knew Arsene was obsessed with possession and attacking, so he sets up his teams to defend and counter.

BUT

SAF normal way of playing aside against Arsenal is a direct attacking pattern orchestrated from the wings. His best players have always operated from the wings (no 7, 11) - Beckham, Ronaldo, Giggs, etc

SAF is as pragmatic as Mou but their playing patterns are different. Mou is more interested in not conceding ie defending. He believes that if you don't concede you don't lose a game.

LVG's 3-5-2 system at the World Cup was quite effective, I thought he would keep RvP and get a partner (Depay) just as RvP paired with Robben as the mobile front two at the WC. But was surprised when he let RvP go and changed to a 4-3-3.

I think he could still play a front two of Martial and Depay with Rooney behind. Both are very fast and skillful, and if they blend effectively, Man Utd would have another deadly partnership strikeforce of the calibre of Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke.

From an Arsenal fan with love.

AdeLaNa1:
Merry Christmas u annoying Arsenal fans


Hope Wanyama breaks Özil's leg tomorrow!!

Merry Christmas to you too, hope you have some wine and mince pie.

#vanGaalOut

Roland17:
Wilshere's situation is a very tough one, it brings to bare a conversation about the future of the CMF for our team, Carzola turned 31 this month and is inevitably approaching the latter path of his career as the rigors of the EPL are daunting, we have not exactly handled offensive minded players who hit the magic number 30 well, Rosicky's situation comes to mind, I feel he should have been treated better and deserves some playing time when fit.

Ramsey, Wilshere, depending on what Wenger does with academy players like Jeff Reine- Adelaide and Krystian Bielik would compete for that CMF first team spot and again the transfer market would play a huge role especially if Wenger decides to dip into the market.

I am with you on taking Ramsey ahead of JW albeit a lot of improvement, it would be interesting to see how things pan out.

Just as RvP and Diaby, I'm afraid Wilshere may only give us one or two seasons before he phases out.

How good do you see Jeff and Bielik within the next one year?

nyabinghi:
like baba said, e don beg me, eru ba were. You for know say khaki no be leather.

Hahahahahaha!

You are such an unrepentant f00l.

You are still forgiven though.

nyabinghi:
you this illiterate still feel avensis is camry, you deserved to be fed to vultures. R.I.P in advance.

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Surely you are dead scared.

FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST WHO SETS US FREE

Your sins are forgiven. I deliver you and your family from the curse of death in Jesus' name. Enjoy your Christmas.

nyabinghi:
see this flat headed ojuwku bastard wannabe, so avensis is also camry, youy are supposed to have been sacrificed to ekwensu as a kid, your mama don use her pussy born throway, anuofia kogu. Onyeberibe, classless ichi monkey,omo ale irankiran.

So the Toyota na Avensis abi?

CHAI! THIS BOY NA GOAT.

Avensis is Toyota, so also is Camry.

So its because of Avensis that RvP will begin to jealous Rooney abi?

Your mumulity knows no bounds. You are a confirmed ewu.

Your curse is still active on you head o.

Are you afraid?

Your dirty mouth have killed you and your family. Today is 23rd, you have this night and tomorrow to live. Amadioha is coming for you.

Anumanu.

elampiro:
26 goals cannot win league.

If RVP didn't come, with less injuries that season and Scholes availability, we would have won those matches 4-0, 3-0, 3-1 instead of those slim victories. DDG too had improved hugely from previous season.

Guy, without RvP, Man Utd would not have won the title. It was very obvious, even Fergie admitted it.

Unless of course you just wanna argue.

nyabinghi:
see this biafran armed robber, so toyota makes camry only, aye e ti baje

What is Toyota and what is Camry?

YOU IMBECILLIC BASTARD!

Son of a LovePeddler'. Are you afraid? You and your family will die onwu ike before xmas. You used your mouth to swear for yourself and I support you. Amadioha will kill you.

When you all die, I will know who will bury you. Umu anumanu.

pickabeau1:
Bayern and Barca perfected possession football

United players are just lazy

I don't think it is laziness. They are simply not suited to that style. Imagine an iroko like Fellaini wanting to play possession football? Nah!

LvG himself seems to be experimenting with that pattern, which explains the purchase of Schneiderlin and and Schweini, may be with time he will perfect it; but that's the problem - NO TIME.

pickabeau1:
Dude...

Possession football is very powerful if you have the players

Arsene moved from his power footie of the invincibles to a possession style to suit cesc, santi, etc

Only that he never got the enforcer which is required

Flamini was a one year experiment that was truncated when he left on a free

Until now we have him n coq

I accept totally. But tell that to Man Utd fans and they will hate you.

Their brand of possession football based on the powerful feelawsawfee of Oga van Gaal is simply unique.

pickabeau1:
Seems he Is giving himself brain

chrisley024:
After almost a decade, he's a slow learner

Football evolves and a good coach evolves with it. Arsene like Fergie has been known to change their systems regularly.

Once upon a time, possession football was the trick, Barcelona and Spain used it to dominate football for years.

As a matter of fact, some small teams still use it eg Bournemouth.

But as Arsene rightly pointed out, it is gradually phasing out. Leicester is a good example.

nyabinghi:
is camry there,na Amadioha go destroy you mofo. Is fifa golden ball not mentioned before the car, guy your case is hopeless. You will die before xmas in your sleep.

Ewu ausa, tell us which Toyota it is, or is Camry not Toyota?

You and your family will die before xmas, and na onwu ike una go die. Amadioha gbagbwo kwa gi nga ahu. Anumalu.

nyabinghi:
guffanti, it was meant for your co-idiot spy, apologized to kesh already.

You see as your mama no know your papa, that's why you couldn't tell Spy from Bigkesh.

That gangbangg really affected your DNA. Ask your whorish mother whose sperm brought your miserable life into existence.

nyabinghi:
it shall never be well with you sonofabitch, quote where I mentioned camry or die before xmas in your sleep, bastard. You are a silly arsenal fan, deal with van persie's betrayal oloriburuku somebody.

If you mentioned Toyota, may your curse rest on you and your family.

nyabinghi:
rooney has a fifa golden ball and a brand new toyota from fifa world club cup, rvp is still dreaming of that. Rooney cares less about golden boot even kevin phillips won it, rooney doesn't care, is it easy to earn 300k a week. Rooney is van persie's lord and saviour

bigkesh:
That creature is a special dunce........

You have found your kind in nyagbidi or whatever.
So you don change moniker again?
We know you, your stupidiity has a special file on NL archives.

Dickhead.

nyabinghi:
where is this mad man from, certainly not from planet earth, where did I link winning the mvp of fifa world club cup with ballon d'or. Seun needs a overhaul of this site. Too many illiterates abound here.

SHUT UP YOUR DIRTY MOUTH YOU IMBECILLIC slowpoke

Are you not the mumu that has been spilling trash on this thread since last night.

Your mumu brain say na FIFA Toyota Camry make Rooney beta pass RvP, anumalu.

Ewu like you should be tied to a pole to chew cud in oblivion. Nama like you.

So wetin go appen for Watford now that the loser fraudster of a manager s been sacked.

nyabinghi:
this is why I doubt if you were created by God. Is the toyota car not attached to the golden ball for the mvp of the fifa world club cup. Your case is beyond redemption.

So all of us wey get Toyota Camry na Ballon Dor?

Yahagerusakarimagafefru...

#speakingINtongues

funlord:
Na "complete sports" you read am?

It is true. The news dey for Ikebe Super... Check the back page.

Fkhalifa:
Guy your head they there o, they sha want to blame ramsey for everything, the guy tackled them at our box several times, and even still had the energy to run at them at 86mins, since ozil doesnt shoot, we need another mielfielder to attempt goal thats if there isnt any player in a better position to shoot..
Aside wilshere and Rosciky and sanchez no orther playet has the energy for that box to box position for good 90mins...

TBH, carzolas best position is the ozil role, but we cant afford to sit one on bench, he can only be good at cm and lw but not his best.
Carzola is good on the ball, disciplined and good at lauching good pass better than ramsey but he isnt as energetic like before,he cant drive and that slows our game to side pasding possesion boring foorball,i doubt he can run at oppositions,cant break up play and often bullied in the middle

i laugh when they expect him to track yaya down.

Both are different and both have their advantages.

I like the way Ramsey adapts to combining with Ozil as Cazorla did. It has really helped. His tackles also makes up for Flamini and maybe reduces his foul incidents. But...

Cazorla > Ramsey

sod09:
I will prefer 20 of Ramsey to wilshere.... Abeg make d guy day rest day go

Hahahahaa... You harsh o...

Roland17:
Nwanne'm Biko forgive me if I sounded off wrongly, i felt you excused a lot Ramsey's deficiencies while comparing him to Santi.

Again, I am not sure Ramsey has an impressive pass range especially long passes from deep as you postulate, he makes incisive runs into the area which I must admit is very difficult for opponents to contain/ track considering his runs are usually from deep and unpredictable angles and that is a weapon to have.

I do love Ramsey's growth in the game and that has everything to do with Wengers faith and patience in his talent.

Ezigbo nwanne'm I concur. Accurate analysis.

When is Wilshere coming back?

Roland17:
I am very sorry but I will not allow this ridicule party of Santi degenerate past the sea of mediocrity which it is seemingly sailing towards.

I concur with your assertion that both players have different playing styles but there is absolutely no level of comparison between both in terms of "on and off the ball skill", talent, intelligence, experience, positional awareness..absolutely none..it is irrational.

Your fifth paragraph was the highlight of your bias and sentiments which I think should be rephrased (please this is a personal opinion), Infact i almost questioned your knowledge of the player Santiago Cazorla Gonzalez and I would restrict the questioning to his time with Arsenal worth more with Villareal, before suddenly rich and now poor Malaga snapped him and the Spanish U-21.

The time Ramsey expends saturating the box with runs and making irrational tackles after losing the ball or exposing the DMF because his pass timing is abysmal, Carzola creates scoring opportunities with a single pass from deep, or opens up the field of play with a single pass.. to claim Santi's pass specialties are sideways and backwards is utterly ridiculous, despicable and a nefarious comment to associate with Santi, Santi is an offensive midfielder in every aspect, granted he might not have the pace but his plays/passes are offense ladened, he has field vision which can only be rivaled by Mesut Ozil especially in the final third of offense on our current roaster.

We have watched Ramsey in Carzola's role since the absence of the latter owing to injury and the difference is very clear if we must be objective, I mean..you don't need a soothsayer to tell you we could have been punished severally especially against city last night..

I would allow others generate perspectives from your other paragraphs but I am not sure I would allow that fifth paragraph slide...no bro...noo way.

I love Ramsey..so much I celebrate his growth but please let's argue with some objective intelligence devoid of sentiments and bias.

No hard feelings bro.

#COYG

Enyia, don't get me wrong.

By sideways pass, I meant that he builds attack gradually using short passes, one-two, working with others as we press.

For Ramsey, he can't build gradually and prefers that single long forward pass which often doesn't get to destination.

Check again, I mentioned that Cazorla has a better passing accuracy. Earlier I said Ramsey would do well to learn from Ozil on how to release a timely pass.

My intention with that post was for us to realise that Ramsey being Ramsey can not play exactly like Cazorla. So we should take him as he is and see some good in him instead of condemning him outrightly. By the way he is a great player.

So mehn we are on the same page.

Talking about his off the ball movements, check Ramsey's goal against Villa; after setting on Walcot on the counter, he ran the entire pitch to finish off the goal. Mehn that was brilliant. Again his missed chance against City was from his off the ball movement. Take it bro he is better in that aspect.

edi287:
Seriously the guy struggles to keep possession. He has an average first touch; the new Stevie G.

Even though Cazorla seems better in the position, we must understand that Ramsey is a different calibre of midfielder.

Ramsey pushes forward into goal scoring positions while Cazorla is more conservative.

Ramsey is less discipline in positioning. He prefers to roam, which comes as an advantage sometimes. Cazorla maintains his position religiously.

Ramsey is better at tackles and interceptions, Cazorla is better at wringling out of tight situations.

Ramsey prefers a forward pass and so suffers from lesser accuracy, Cazorla prefers the sideways pass and so has better accuracy.

Ramsey is better off the ball than Cazorla who is better on the ball.

Both are remarkably intelligent. Both are utility players.

sod09:
so who go win am Chelshit Manure Loserpool.... Oh I remember man chitty

Liked

sod09:
wetin consign me if afc win or lose
I'm interested in wat happen in may...d over all review

May doesn't come in a flash. I thought you said one game at a time, how come you are jumping to May all of a sudden?

DEAD THREAD
Where are the mods?

SailorXY:
We all know Nyashnal won't win the league so what's new?

What's new is that we just got you and your roomie pregnant within 3months. Hope you both give us triplets.

sod09:

There we go again
one game at a time.....

I hope you will repeat this comment whenever we lose as well.

elampiro:
Merry Christmas.

Season's Greetings brother.