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cixak95211:
You were kinda right before, then you took a swift turn . . .
APIs go far more than a frontend calling a backend service. That would be classified under 3rd party APIs
There are Language APIs which are constructs built on the core layer to help the language interact with stuffs, for example, in Javascript: there is a browser API . . that allows Javascript communicate with the browser. Under browser API for example, there is a Device API , this api contains a Vibrate API which makes your device vibrate . . There is a Storage API, localstorage, cookie and indexed db comes to mind . . Audio and Video API . . the list is very long .

What Dan was trying to tell you that these interfaces are not for you to learn, cos that's how the language communicates with the environment. They are sub-levels, Your own job is the high-level part of it, the 3rd party API part . . .

Truly, APIs goes way beyond /GET /PUT /PATCH /POST and /DELETE request to a server sitting somewhere.
This right here is one of the problems with being "self-taught". While its a good thing, it comes with a whole lot of limitations. Cos 99.99% of the tutorials on what have you, like Youtube, all refer to building 3rd party APIs. And if yo follow these videos rigorously, you think life ends there,
when in fact, it just begun.

API are not beyond applications, whatever the end result maybe, no machine respond without API. We know the first kind of software in a machine are Logic gates and circuit, they also have their own API.

Language do not communicate, that particular statement is wrong, Instead you communicate with a Language compiler.

API are advance form of the language that abstract communication. It is what we used to construct communication and then sometimes compile to bitcode.

C compiler has it own way of building you app to communicate with machine, so also so Java VM. What ever library code you call depends on how your application are constructed. That is what API means
You can communicate with virtually anything, any software or sub software has it own API, machine could have it own API but such API are interpreted by a particular Application kernel in it 10010101011... form. It just depends on which API you call

DanGeek made a terrible mistake by saying “An applications communicate with a language using Api” I then told him it is not so
JAVA API means java compiler API.
It doesn’t mean Java Language API. Different is small but important.

Moreso I am not self taught, I went to school to learn computing science and I know what I am talking about

VirginDiva:
does it matter?
He made a point about life being fair- one can't eat their cake and have it again. And I contered his veiw. In reality, people do. How many honest relationships have you come across. I merely stated a fact, argue with logic.

There is nothing like fact you stated. There are good relationships that went well. Stop demonizing and generalize everything about relationships. There 7billion people in the world. There are good people and bad people also. You are just one of the redpill crew. You think you understand it all. The beginning of your problem.

DanTheGeek:
You clearly don't know anything about APIs. The API is the only reason an application can communicate with the programming language. I can build an Uber clone within a few weeks but a Golang clone will take months to design. Why are you talking like a rookie, you are about to lose my respect.

Google wasn't built with one language nah, it's a combination of many programming languages with complex data structures and algorithms which makes it naturally more complicated than a single programming language. Some libraries are written in C directly for Google.

Most libraries are not part of the core language but are built from what? Sand? Ogbeni park well.

DanTheGeek:
Somebody just shoot me already. You should've googled Java API before posting nah. O wrong nau. You're just emphasizing on your ignorance.

Btw, is it only cement that's used to build a bridge who have you seen building bridges with just cement. The context is quite different. For software the only major dependency is the programming language.

I was simple trying to correct your wrong statement

“The API is the only reason an application can communicate with the programming language”

If you cannot prove the above by today then kindly and peacefully apologize to this group for misleading them and apologize to me for stressing me.
Because how can an application be communicating with a language
You can only communicate with a compiler or an application or a software not a Language.
You have been mislead by hearing Phython API or JavaScript API, not knowing they mean python compiler API and JavaScript compiler(NodeJS) API and you have refuse to take correction.
Let’s draw the line.

DanTheGeek:
Somebody just shoot me already. You should've googled Java API before posting nah. O wrong nau. You're just emphasizing on your ignorance.

Btw, is it only cement that's used to build a bridge who have you seen building bridges with just cement. The context is quite different. For software the only major dependency is the programming language.

You are still stabbing yourself boy.
There is nothing like language api.
We only have application API.
When next you hear Java API.
They mean the compiler not the language. Goan quote me anywhere

DanTheGeek:
I guess you should just try building one then. You're comparing something that takes years to get right to something that can be implented in months at most.

Dont make me laugh you please. I don’t want to. I follow Lc0 and stock fish engine back to back everyday. They have been finding all manner of research through neck and teeth to improve it and you talk a month.

I am developing my chess engine though, I know it will be slow but I can do it in a month but I won’t say I have an engine.

DanTheGeek:
Baba, it's just large not difficult. If you know what you're doing you can build anything but somethings require a large team because of the level research implementation that needs to be done. The 50 million lines of logic repeatedly call methods from the underlying programming language's API and if it's through a library it still ends up calling an inbuilt method. My recent project I posted here on NL has closet to 50k LOC and it's just a web app with no complex algorithms yet. Simply calling a method multiple times for multiple scenarios can make the application complicated but doesn't take away the fact that all credits are due to the programming language itself, for without the years of hard works of men like Brendan Eich and co, we wouldn't be able to build meaningful software.

You practically don’t know what you are saying it is clear.
So if cement was used to build a bridge. You mean people who created the cement did a better job than people who created the bridge?

And please stop saying language API, say Compiler API, language does not have api. Language is just a language. Have you ever heard of anything like Java API or C++ API?

You only hear C++ compiler API, JAVA compiler API. No dey fall your hand.

DanTheGeek:
I suspected you don't really know what an API is from this statement. It's a shame. Just delete your posts before somebody hiring sees it.

Please Goan learn what API Means
Application programming interface. If I write an app and I want other app to communicate to my app. I write an api, set of functions. Api are between apps not languages

DanTheGeek:
Not only applications have an API programming languages do too, applications only communicate publicly either stateless or stateful via REST or SOAP. According to wikipedia “In computer programming, an application programming interface (API) is a set of subroutine definitions, protocols, and tools for building application software. In general terms, it is a set of clearly defined methods of communication between various software components”

You just embarrassing yourself bro.

you nor go school, read it clearly nah
You said communicate with a programming language. And I said it is between two applications.

DanTheGeek:
A basic compiler is not difficult and will probably be very useless (not much use case scenario for it) but a useful compiler can easily take years to build.

Even at that they are not the hardest to build.
Chess Engine today is very hard to build to a notable level. The way computer scientist can advance is unknown due to because it is NP-hard. This means there is not shortcut tomorrow for the solution.

Coming soon PS5 Polygon games engine is very mad, thousand and thousand research where made for the rendering alone. Not to talk of the complex analysis. Please read about it.

Cloud computing Operating systems. Linux tools and distribution are exceedingly difficult to build.

Window operating system is neck bending to code with more than 50 million lines of pure logic. And heavy chains of tools everywhere.

DanTheGeek:
You clearly don't know anything about APIs. The API is the only reason an application can communicate with the programming language. I can build an Uber clone within a few weeks but a Golang clone will take months to design. Why are you talking like a rookie, you are about to lose my respect.

Google wasn't built with one language nah, it's a combination of many programming languages with complex data structures and algorithms which makes it naturally more complicated than a single programming language. Some libraries are written in C directly for Google.

Most libraries are not part of the core language but are built from what? Sand? Ogbeni park well.

This part remove -1 from your rating. So google is more complex because it was built with more than one language abi? SMH
I was expecting you to talk of google cloud architecture and the search algorithms to make billions of search per seconds. Instead you fall my hand.
You said api are what is used to communicate with a language. Then you just remove -1, API are stateless communication between two applications. It is not to a language.

SegFault:
Exactly, which is why papers and articles are still being written on parsing techniques till this day.

If it is that one then compiler construction dey learn when it comes to Os development, Virtual System, Cloud softwares, Game engines, Bare metals, embedded system.

DanTheGeek:
There's nothing special about it. I have a friend working at Gokada, I went through his laptop and was able to go through their ride hailing implementation it's no different from what Otrek, OCar, Lyft and co uses. In fact it's an open source library. The load balancing and all that gibberish is just to make sure the application scales and if you're talking about scalability then you're the one diverting here.

so what is now the topic about. Compiler becomes difficult for scalability.
On ground level, me and you can sit and code a compiler in one week. So what is now your argument?
I coded a slow compiler in 300level. I don’t see anything so hard. Except you go into bare metal coding like Rust which is built to be robust. Why should a compiler be hard?

SegFault:
Oh boy no talk that thing, compiler construction is fucking difficult.

I can build a compiler. Compiler is not hard jare. What are you saying. We have thousand of compiler. Just say it is hard to develop a good compiler

DanTheGeek:
You clearly don't know anything about APIs. The API is the only reason an application can communicate with the programming language. I can build an Uber clone within a few weeks but a Golang clone will take months to design. Why are you talking like a rookie, you are about to lose my respect.

Google wasn't built with one language nah, it's a combination of many programming languages which makes it naturally more complicated than a single programming language. Some libraries are written in C directly for Google.

Most libraries are not part of the core language but are built from what? Sand? Ogbeni park well.

May God forgive you for this statement, you are clearly ignorant about how Uber load balance those strategy used to pick you up.
They spend $Millions.
I am disinterested in this discussion.

DanTheGeek:
If the language was not built and designed properly applications can't be built on top of it nah... I'm stating the importance of the language and the fact that designing a language is the real deal. Applications just merely plug into the API of the programming language. If you're hardcore enough you should understand what I'm saying and agree.

You have moved from language to API now. You need to slow down and think things out abeg.
Most library are not part of the core language and shouldn’t be referred as the language itself. Many library were built by independent coders.
Golang is the language use for Uber. Does this mean Golang is more difficult than Uber. Certainly not. It is just an instrument to implement the complex polygon logic of Uber.
Google app is more complex than C, python, Golang compilers, although coded with C and Golang

Cuteind:
Guys, can you let your girl have a male bestie?
Ladies, can you let your guy have a female bestie?

why not yes, from time memorial stop girls from friends has never really helped anyone. Everyone knows the rule and everyone should know how to thread.
You just need a shark nose to smell blood, that’s all

peterangelo:
I'll work on the styling like Reddit

That clone go make sense

You dey try keep it up but find better clone do na and leave this Nairaland ancient design for Seun.

DanTheGeek:
Without the design and structure of the underlying programming language the game and codebase will be useless.

Are you stating the importance of a programming language or it’s difficult?
You dey loose concentration o

DanTheGeek:
Programming Language development is the hardest thing ever in programming. Quote me anywhere.

To your I guess
have you heard of Game programming?? or AI or Machine learning??
Grand theft auto 5 was written with about 50 million lines of codes and the algorithm for the sun ray alone was killing...

VirginDiva:
That point of view narrows down to the laws sex and seduction. Politics, crime, romance, that comment had nothing to do with any of them. Do you know Robert Greene? Read often...

You wanna teach me seduction?
You are starting to sound like the Nairaland Redpill drug dealers, Tell me you're not one. Because they talk about games and games and games all day.
I have read all pages of 48 laws page by page and his seduction books in the past.
This is what I came about, those laws are just for mind and social hackers, they are not for healthy social lifes, if you need to exploit social settings then you may need to start taking those theories seriously. But there is something I learn, I only use those knowledge to avoid mind hackers. I don't use to knowledge to exploit people. People exploitation are for narcissist not for real men who wants to be productive and bring wine from rocks

VirginDiva:
Men yield to their urges, have careless sex as often as they please. Because of their gender, later get married to a virgin.
Women can be dead broke and because of their beauty, get married to a multi_milloniare.
Don't be naive. Life's a game... The wise eat their cake and everyone else's.

This ideology is same ideology of a jungle mentality which has led to the creation of Criminals, kidnappers, prostitute, playboys, arm robbers, love-vendor, hooligans and many more. They see life like a chessboard, you move, I move, if you make a mistake I see then I gain/win.

But what happens to a society where the de facto is mutual interest and responsibility are clearly stated and a working law abide to track and punish default no matter what! . Everyone pay for their deed and are held responsible for it.
Why would a modern sane man not think in this line?

This one strong o.
Some people are just totally heartless. So poverty led you to such extreme measure and the next thing you could think is to turn one of your daughter to a drilling machine.
The Thunder bolt wey go roast this woman and her cohort never finish im cigarette

Ayemileto:
You already broke up with him na. How's he still your love?

Like some people said above, it's likely a Super story.

she told you why she broke up! You should understand the context

Saintmary:
You can only attract your type

Mtchewww

Sulele04:
Mr stanliwise will not like this post.

You ran from the other thread

thebosstrevor1:
was the guy from the same class?

Most of them are normal self made guy that has big job. The money was just so huge for normal marriage but na them want fine wife

thebosstrevor1:
these sort of women you want are hard to see in this generation, most women want ready made men even if they have nothing to offer.

I will rather go where my asset is protected that go where it will decrease because i am feeding the girl and her family.

I rather remain a priest than marry any woman who nothing but a handbag.
That being said, women of higher classes make life a bit difficult o. I have friend that went such lane o. Money for wedding nor be here o. Ordinary traditional self, the Porscheness ehn fit break person neck.

VirginDiva:
Stanliwise:
A woman can have sex with either a poor or wealth man...
Society tells a woman that the best is the latter. She grows up with that doctrine...
You approach a woman with such a mentality, fully aware of the fact that she's materialistic...
She rejects you...
Whose fault is it? Hers for having an exaggerated impression of herself? Or yours for deciding to swim with sharks?
Don't chase heaven if you aren't prepared to die.
And since majority of women are materialistic, follow the golden rule: in Rome, behave as the Romans and make money. Since it's the easiest path to getting a woman!

Let’s get this straight I see nothing wrong in materialism only if you are ready to do genuine work and get it, it is fine by me but here we are talking about Greediness.
Heaven knows I will never have anything to do with a Greedy lady. As a responsible man who has decided to stop playing small boys Relationship games, I would desist from them.
But on a good day you and I know Greedy ladies are the problem objectifying women as intimacy gadgets till today and it is a big problem. Men toss them around and Bleep them at random all over the places because they are looking for people with big money.
At the end of the day everyone has their life and are entitled to it. That being said, Beggars cannot choose

thebosstrevor1:
actually, it is more easier to flow and adapt to people of your class. most wealthy guys will rather go for women of their class or women that comes from the same family background as their.

Marrying a women with sense and business smart the future nkonjo iweala. these type of women can be gotten from a wealthy background

You think a woman from a poor home can be the next nkonjo iweala.... it takes money to be the next nkonjo...her type of education takes money that only a wealty father can afford.

Many entitled women actually come from poor background.

Brother please do your background research, many men and rich women today didn’t have a rich family. They started from scratch. Almost all successful men today still confess how their wife was the bedrock of their success since they worked hand in hand and ensure the best is achieved.
When I was younger, My Dad lost job at a time and my mom business sustained us like nothing happened until another job came. That sort of women is what I want, not because of to shoulder my responsibility (God forbid). But to be someone I can be rest assured that my family and bloodline(children) is save with.

VirginDiva:
life isn't balanced. My point isn't that being materialistic is alright, I pointing out the fact that there are women like that! It's for you as a guy to filter what would work for you.
If a woman demands a man's money, [s]there are those who have excess money and wouldn't hesitate to spoil her.[/s] If you can't, stop ranting. Walk away and accept the fact that she can place herself on an almighty pedestal.
Freedom!

Nothing is truely free, if anything ever comes free then someone somewhere has paid for it. If you think men are ready to lavish on pretty and nice shaped ass just being because of the view then you are a liar. Everyone is looking a sweet bite. Na so olosho take start.

There is no difference between a beggar on the road and women who wants free money because she looks pretty with nice body. A beggar looks haggard and hungry and then seek for help from passerby so a beautiful entitled over ego bloated lady.

MY ANGER IS THIS
A beggar can’t be a chooser yet this pretty over ego bloated beggar want to start choosing who would donate and who won’t

thebosstrevor1:
apparently, women can only reject a man based on only finances

My take is simple, if a woman wants a man of higher income then she herself have to be from the same social class as the man.

At the highlighted, i cant marry date or marry a white woman but lets come to think of it, if she equates white with been beautiful, i also think it will be fair to equate black with beauty

Don’t fall for that trap o. For the fact she comes from a higher class doesn’t mean she has anything to offer o. Sometimes the reverse is the case. They have a sense of false entitlement and demand even you drops of blood.

Marry a women who has sense and is business smart. With big dreams. For me I like fearless women and Boss lady who like work and family, the ones we would build our work life to the best of our career. Those breed are rare but they are my taste. I want to marry a Nkonjo Iweala of next generation, me sef dey prepare myself so to be the next Zuck