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MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the Christ God's only begotten Son. Matthew 16:16
I hope you know what the Bible called all those believing this! John 20:31

According to you Jesus is angel Michael right? So where is it written that Jesus is angel Michael?

Adopting unbiblical standards is the undoing of the modern church.

What crown? A crown of sin. People are celebrating you for sinful acts you propagate. You better repent and turn to Jesus Christ.

This is what Nigeria exports-immorality.
The gospel needs to be aggressively preached.

Christianity is possession and living the life that is found in Christ. This life is given by the Father through the Spirit

The Bible does not say you confess that you are righteous to become righteous rather " with the mouth confession is made unto salvation" however, the confession made is the confession of Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour.

1 Timothy 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Paul described himself as the chief of all sinners whom Christ came to save, he uses present terms nor past terms, which means He recognizes the fact that he still sins.


What we confess in Christianity is our faith in Jesus not ourselves.

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses can help you people, go now and ask for help before it's too late!

Jehovah witness is no better.

MaxInDHouse:
Well Paul also said:
...those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 1Thessalonians 4:16
Then goes on to say:
Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 1Thessalonians 4:17
So when did Mark of the beast occurred and Paul refused to accept it?😟

The events in Revelation is yet to be fulfilled. You have deviated, so according to the book of Revelation the first resurrection comprises those who were given judgments and seats and the souls of those who did not recieve the mark plus where murdered for the word of God, the rest of the dead did not live till after the 1000 years non of what you wrote is correct.

If someone is owing and they said he is freed (KJV) or acquitted (NWT) please can you use another English?😟

Please check other translations if this is difficult!

That verse is not talking about be acquainted from sin in a judicial way but being free from the control of sin.

Rest in peace, very vocal pastor, MacArthur also died this year. Three very great preachers of the Christian faith. MacCatthur, Kirk and Baucham

Pastor Christ just like many of these so called prosperity preachers are used to preaching heresies, the mode of operation now is to condem the apostles of Christ and their teachings. Judgment day shall be very hot.

MaxInDHouse:
According to the illustration what GOOD did Lazarus do and what evil did the rich man commit?
When did this Lazarus lived?
Is it during Moses's or Jesus' times?

Or Lazarus to be in the bosom of Abraham, it showed that he has the same faith as Abraham while the rich man only cared for himself living in pleasure while Lazarus at his gate suffered.

[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=136918199]Is Paul also part of them?

Paul would be part of the first resurrection.


[quote]For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin. ‭Romans 6:7 NWT


because anyone who has died has been set free from sin. ‭Romans 6:7 NIV‬

For he that is dead is freed from sin. Romans 6:7 KJV

So where does it say they have paid for their sin? Do you know the meaning of pay and free?

Truthseeker10:
So kindly show us where hell is used in the spiritual sense in the bible.

What is the Hebrew and Greek word for hell?

In Luke 16:23 Jesus described hell as a real place where dead souls are, remember in all of Jesus parable he used real things that truly take place to illustrate his teachings. Jesus description of hell goes beyond the physical into the spiritual dimension.

MaxInDHouse:
These are the RIGHTEOUS and the UNRIGHTEOUS that will be resurrected! Act 24:15

RIGHTEOUS: people God declared righteous because they lived by His laws which they learned before Jesus came. They are declared righteous based on the way they observed God's word but they are not qualified for everlasting life yet because they haven't accepted the truth that leads to everlasting life from Jesus so during Christ's thousand years reign they have to prove they believe in Jesus by practicing what they learned from the Christians before they can have everlasting life.

UNRIGHTEOUS: people who don't know God's laws but lived by conscience so God didn't declare them righteous but He will show them mercy by raising them back to life {Romans 2:14-15} so after learning about Jesus during his thousand years reign they must prove their stand in what they learned.

These two set will be judged not by the things they did before their former death because those sins has been paid for by their death but by the things they choose to do after learning about Jesus.

WICKED: these are people who don't care about God so they does wicked things as they don't fear God or care so they have paid for their sins with their death and never to be remembered for resurrection! Psalms 9:17

According to Revelation 20, the first resurrection is for people who were killed for not accepting the mark of the beast but The rest of the dead did not live until after the 1000 years was over.

Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The second resurrection took place before the judgment seat of God.
By the way the bible described the second death as everlasting punishment.

Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
For everlasting punishment to be possible that those people must be fully aware of the torment.

For example the devil, the false prophet and the anti christ will be tormented forever.

Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Those who worship the beast will be tormented day nor night and the smoke of their torment will rise forever and ever.

Hence the second death is everlasting punishment not everlasting anhillation.

Since the first resurrection is for those who were murdered for not worshiping the anti christ then the second one is for the rest of the dead because the dead said so
So all the dead would be resurrected.

Truthseeker10:
So if hell means grave, where is hell fire?
Tell us the Hebrew and Greek word for hell fire.

Hell or grave can be used in the physical sense or in the spiritual sense depends on the context.

MaxInDHouse:
That means the living (believers) and the dead (unbelievers) who are alive not those who have already paid for their sins at death.
Remember Jesus clarified that only his disciples are living while all others are dead so by the time God's Kingdom comes both his disciples (living) and unbelievers (dead) will have to face their judgement that's why Jesus said the rest of the dead (unbelievers) didn't come to life until the 1,000 years {Revelations 20:5} it's after Christ's thousand years reign that we will know those to be given everlasting life {Revelations 21:3-4} untill then even though we will no longer grow old during Christ's 1,000 years reign whoever has not believe Jesus is still on his or her way to destruction! Isaiah 65:20

If the dead has already paid for their sins how come the dead are raised again to face Judgement.

Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

Daniel 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

They were judged according to what they had done, if by dieing their sins have already be paid for why will God raise them again to face Judgement

Truthseeker10:
Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Oga above is the writer's words.....was he describing life on earth or in hell?

He is speaking from what we observe of the dead here on earth. By the way hell means grave. The context of ecclesiastes is from the pov of earthly life (under the sun).

MaxInDHouse:
In line with Ecclesiastes 9:5 Paul said the dead has paid for all their sins {Romans 6:7} because the only punishment God is giving the sinner is death {Romans 6:23} so as humans we are all dead going by Jesus' perspective {Luke 9:60} but whoever believes in Jesus has gotten himself or herself another opportunity to live again in Paradise! Luke 23:43

So all dead people are gone for good if they have no business with God! Psalms 9:17

why then did scripture say God will judge the living and the dead? If the dead has already paid for their sins?

Truthseeker10:
So you mean "hell" as shown in the translation above refers to the life on earth?

No the writer was speaking base on the perspective of life under the Sun from the perspective of the early life, the dead has no, reward, no knowledge, and can't participate in anything.
Remember the writer said the dead has no more reward ecc. 9.5 that is in the perspective of rewards in this life.

Truthseeker10:
Does not the bible clearly shows that there is no activity in hell?

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Catholic Public Domain Version
Whatever your hand is able to do, do it
earnestly. For neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge will exist in death,
toward which you are hurrying

New American Bible
Anything you can turn your hand to, do with
what power you have; for there will be no
work, no planning, no knowledge, no
wisdom in Sheol where you are going

The writer is speaking from the view point of life on earth.
The dead cannot participate in anything.
The context of the whole of ecclesiastes is from the point view of earthly life.

bamvik:
A murderer and a liar will still go to hellfire
Someone who has been stealing in his entire life might go to heaven, while the one that stole once will go to hell. I can go on and on.
Mind you, in heaven no more vacation to different cities of the world, no more cruising in jets, ships and latest cars. No more Nairaland and other social media apps, no games, no football.
Just praises and hymns

everyone has sinned and deserve hell but God offer us mercy in Jesus Christ. Just believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.
Your thought about heaven is poor. Mind you it is not just about going to heaven but having everlasting life through Jesus.

The illuminati working on overdrive to install their one world government. Both the left and right are controlled by the globalists. The plan is to destabilize the whole world particularly the west through, war and other means, and then from its ashes build a one world totalitarian state where nobody have any rights nor free speech allowed. They created wokeism i.e feminism, transgender, gay movement etc. Israel is being controlled by them, Islam seems to be the tool to destroy the west the true enemy of the globalists is actually true Christianity.

Sirchiboy:
I went through traumatic childhood dUE to over religious woman called mother.
A mother that worship and cherish money more than her own kids.
I have studied this world and discovered that most people that are living good life are actually non religous people.
I stopped going to church in 2006 because I had no single clothes to wear.
I was putting on one trouser every Sunday while the woman called mother will buy clothes every Sunday and still buy for her pastors wife yet her kids wear rags to church.
My life would have been much better if I was born into non relgious home.

The purpose of Christianity is not to give you wealth or riches in this life.
Infact in one of Jesus temptation Satan offered to Jesus all the glory of this world. Jesus knowing fully well that that part of set by his father is full of pain, suffering and rejection rejected Satan's offer chosing the cross, by thus Jesus set an example for all his followers who wants to follow him. No man can serve God and mammon, the modern teaching in many churches that is geared towards prosperity, health and wealth came because men like esau want the temporary pleasure and glory of this life.
Scripture said when we have food and raiment we should be content and grateful, and even when we don't have we should be grateful.

The most important thing in life is to believe in Jesus Christ and follow him, by so doing we will be saved and lay our treasures in heaven, another thing is irrelevant in the long run no matter how serious we think it is.

Sterope:
Mark 16:9-20 never existed

You quoted Mark 16:15 . Mark 16:9-20 were never part of Mark.

Earliest manuscripts according to Eusebius (4th c.) and Jerome (late 4th c.) commented that almost all reliable Greek manuscripts of their time ended Mark at 16:8.

Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus also stopped at verse 8. These are all the earliest manuscripts of the Bible we have so far. There were some Bible that actually pointed it out as footnotes that they were probably additions.


Jesus was sent to all the nations of Israel never the gentiles

Jesus’ mission was for the nations of Israel. All of his disciples were Jewish, and he commanded them along with the people to uphold the laws given to Moses which were to Israelites.

So when he said, “proclaim to all nations,” it wasn’t about the entire world. He was speaking about the twelve nations of Israel the tribes descended from Jacob.

As Genesis 35:11 records: “God said to Jacob, ‘A nation and a company of nations shall come from you, and kings shall come from your own body.’”

unlike, the Koran that is just one book of which when information is lost there will be no way of recovering it.
The Gospel is made up of four books; mathew, Mark, Luke and john which are complementary to one another and also from church traditions. When an info is not in one it can be gotten from the other sources and used to fill it.
The command to preach to other nations is also in the book of mathew.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Sterope:
Exactly!

“And He has no partner in His dominion, nor has He any protector out of weakness. And proclaim His greatness.” (Qur’an 17:111)

“They say, ‘The Most Merciful has taken a son.’ You have certainly made an outrageous claim. The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation, that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son. And it is not appropriate for the Most Merciful that He should take a son.” (Qur’an 19:88–92)

He doesn't have a companion nor a partner now why and how would he have a son.

My God has no companion, no son.

Your God has a mother, a son of himself, he regrets and he rests!

🤣 so Allah need a companion to have a Son?
Allah is dependent on girlfriend to have a Son.

Sterope:
I pray to God.

And my God is not a God of regret, not a God that rests, now a God that lacks knowledge, not a God the devil would have the audacity to tempt, nor a God that was created.

But Allah cannot have a Son except he has a girlfriend.

Surah Al-An‘ām (6:101) reads as follows (translation by Saheeh International):

> "He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion, and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing."

Sterope:
Now you are lying he never said he came for the gentile. The Cannanite woman had to convince him to help her. Lmao!

"I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.- Matthew 15:24
Mm

you forgot to add that after Jesus resurrection he commanded his disciples to preach to all nations.

Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Islam is simply a religion of ignorance. No wonder it beeds terrorists, Muslims are victims of Islam. I pray that more muslims will come out of that darkness called Islam.

Janosky:
John 17:7
Jesus Christ doesn't OWN anything .
Rather, Jesus confessed he received whatever he has.

John 20:22, Jesus did not breathe any being on the disciples.

Oga,Stop deceiving yourself.


"Very nature" you quoted is not in any Greek manuscript at Philippians 2:6.

Adding maggi & medemede.



What is not true can never be true, no matter how it is whitewashed & painted with seemingly fanciful laguage

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Jesus owns all creation.
Col 1:16-17

Janosky:
In the screenshot evidence did the Jews say " I am" is the correct expression @ Exodus 3:12-14 for Hebrew lexicon 1961?
The Jews disagreed.
Jews Proper translation " I shall/will be".
Not "" I am".

Did the king James bible dictionary say " I AM " is the correct expression for "@ Exodus 3:14 for Hebrew lexicon 1961?
No, KJV dictionary disagreed

Is Olaniyi in Yoruba language , the same correct expression for Olaniyi in Igbo?
No,not at all.
Oga, Stop deceiving yourselves.

whenever God is using tense to describe his eternal presence he uses "I am". Jesus used I am to describe his presence in the past making him eternally present.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala jàre since it's not written in the Bible God warned His worshipers not to copy anything from pagans:


The Lord your God will cut off before you the nations you are about to invade and dispossess. But when you have driven them out and settled in their land, and after they have been destroyed before you, be careful not to be ensnared by inquiring about their gods, saying, “How do these nations serve their gods? We will do the same.” ‭Deuteronomy 12:29-30 NIV

So if Trinity is not found among God's people but history reveals that it's pagan traditions i rest my case!

No pagan has any God that is trinity.
But you as a jehovah witness you do not believe that only Jehovah is God, you believe there are other gods that jehovah created, you make jehovah an idolater even when he said there is no god besides him.