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I forgot to disprove your Surah Fil That were people older than the Propjet when that chapter was revealed and when the prophet died as well None of them called HIM i.e the prophet a liar about the chapter of the Elephants Not all Arabia is desert. There is something called War Elephants and it is not unusual. Even, the Persian army had one. In Namibia they have elephants that live in the desert. Quran says this is what happened and neither people who don't believe in God nor people whose God regretted and rested and wrestled dare say it didn't. No one is listening to you! |
And Not a single answer to a single question. Not all scientist even disbelieve in the existence of the events science cannot explain. You are mistaken if you think I care about being deceived. I don't do religious leaders at all. What my religion gets out of me is charity to others, contribution to the mosque and its welfare. I am not interested in seeking out religious men for some bond. obinna58: |
Someone read the well detailed quote below and said I have refuted nothing, what an insol.....,,,ent lie but nothing unusual about that with you anyways. If you understood a little bit about religion, nothing special about the parallels you don't own the sole claim to God and His prophets. Lmao. Qur'an has stripped you the right to blaspheme against God and his prophets. God doesn't regret not does he rest as claimed by the Bible. Prophets of God like Aaron never worshipped a golden calf, David would never do that to Bathseba and her husband, Solomon would never have 700 wives and 300 concubines. Jesus would never call a gentile a dog. Jacob would never have been too drunk to sleep with the wrong woman or treat her with such injustice. Jacob would never wrestle with God. Lot was never rap.......,,,,e.d by his daughters. Blasphemy upon Blasphemy! I seek refuge with God from you! How about that for parallels... 😆. Arabs are descendants of Ishmeal yet you are claiming sole ownership to God and his prophets? Are you high? About how the Prophet referred to Mary, it doesn't need to make sense to you, nothing will. The reality is people call others in Semitic culture as son of, daughter of , sister of....... Nothing surprising about your disbelief. Quran describes you perfectly! Indeed, those who disbelieve; it is the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them – they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil; and for them is a great punishment. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:6–7) Did the Prophet copy the Bible? |
Did the Prophet copy the Bible? To say the Prophet copied is the laziest argument ever. The Qur’an’s writing is VERY DIFFERENT FROM the Bible. Few people were even scholars in his time, yet the Qur’an contains things far beyond the scope of the Bible. Access to such knowledge would have placed the Prophet at the very top of the educated elite of the world and they were very few people in that sphere and if he had copied, people would have called him out during his life and after. Do you really think the past was like today, where information is at your fingertips? . For such beautiful scholarship as the Qur'an, there should have been other works before or during his supposed scholarship with the other educated men of his time in Rome, Syria? Where are they sir? ![]() And let’s be clear: for a liar or copyist, even the stupidest one wouldn’t “confuse” Mary with Aaron as her literal brother. The Bible’s genealogy is obvious, which only proves one thing, it wasn’t a copy. Otherwise, it would be the dumbest copy in history. The Prophet himself explained that people were often called by the names of prophets and righteous figures before them. So Mary being called “sister of Aaron” was a cultural expression, not a mistake. It was a way of linking her to noble ancestry just as Jesus was called son of David and God calls us children of Abraham. Mary came from the priestly line of Aaron through the family of Imran. That’s why her people invoked Aaron’s name to remind her of the honour and responsibility tied to her lineage. And the Qur’an strongly suggests Mary grew up in the temple whose first Chief Priest was Aaron himself. The Prophet is right; you know nothing. Haman in the Qur’an vs the Bible You assume the Bible is historically accurate. That was your first mistake. This is the same Bible where God “regrets” twice and “rests” on the seventh day, and where Moses somehow writes about his own death in Deuteronomy. Jews themselves don’t always claim the Bible’s books are historical. The Universal Jewish Encyclopaedia says about how the boo of Esther is nto historicaly accurate: “The very tone of the book itself, its literary craftsmanship and the aptness of its situations, point rather to a romantic story than a historical chronicle.” ![]() Some scholars even argue it’s a reworking of Babylonian myths of Marduk and Ishtar, not Jewish history at all. Now compare that to the Qur’an: two ancient Egyptian inscriptions the Rosetta Stone and a Stela actually mention an overseer of stonemasons with the name he-man-ḥw, which matches what the Qur’an says about Haman/someone serving Pharaoh as . I care not for the academic side of it. Pharaoh said: "O Haman! light me a (kiln to bake bricks) out of clay, and build me a lofty palace (Arabic: Sarhan, lofty tower or palace), that I may mount up to the god of Moses: but as far as I am concerned, I think (Moses) is a liar!" [Qur'an 28:38]Pharaoh in the Qur’an vs the Bible The Bible casually calls every ruler of Egypt “Pharaoh.” The Qur’an, however, distinguishes: Joseph’s ruler is called king, not Pharaoh, while Moses’ adversary is called Pharaoh. Historically, Qur’an is correct NOT every ruler used to be called Pharaoh. The original meaning of “Pharaoh” was the royal palace or residence, and it only became a title for the king much later. How exactly would Prophet Muhammad have known this if he was copying the Bible?[/i] Samiri and the golden calf In the Bible, Aaron, the very man God appointed as Moses’ prophet and the first High Priest is said to have built the golden calf. Think about it:, the same man chosen for honour supposedly commits the worst sin of leading Israel into idolatry? That doesn’t even make sense. [i]The Qur’an fixes this. It names Samiri, not Aaron, as the one who made the calf. That preserves Aaron’s role as honoured prophet without attributing to him the most egregious act of betrayal against God. I will stop here. These examples are enough. Anyone with sense can see the Qur’an didn’t copy, and if you’re serious, you can do the rest of the research yourself but wait it is the heart that is blind. Take care of yourself Gabrielshow24: |
You are one of those ones that doesn't know meaning of Allah. Which is a good pointer that you know nothing Even AI and a simple Google search knows. It was a mistake to copy you. |
How do you explain people who dream of future events warnings, predictions that later unfold? How do you explain those who feel sudden unease, an urge to check on a family member, and then discover something serious has happened death, accident, illness? Have you ever seen true possession? Not the staged or exaggerated kind? No, possession is not always running mad or falling ill. Possession might even be good or neutral fyi. Even in something as shallow as reality TV, there are cases where people visit fortune tellers who predict events. Some are false which is no surprise to me as a Muslim but others are accurate. How would you explain those? What research have you actually done to test whether such things exist? And if your judgement rests only on myths, many of which are exaggerated or outright false, that doesn’t mean the reality itself doesn’t exist. Across the world, every culture regardless of language, colour, religion, or place shares a belief in the unseen. How do you explain that? Is it really reasonable to assume all our ancestors, across every civilisation, were completely wrong? obinna58: |
TenQ Jesus Is Not God God is not His creation, and never will be. The Creator does not become the created. My God does not punish one soul for another’s sin. Why should I bear Adam’s guilt? In the Qur'an when God forgave Adam and his wife upon their repentance and not a sacrifice was required. My God does not demand human.....,,, sacrifice for sins others committed. He forgives out of His mercy; He does not require an innocent to die for the guilty. No should shall bear the burden of another. My God is the Most Merciful to the truly repentant. The Gospels and Their Authors Much of what is claimed about Jesus comes from texts written decades later, not by eyewitnesses. Nearly half his life is unrecorded; the rest pieced together from anonymous accounts. John was a fisherman, unlikely to have written sophisticated Greek. His gospel never names him. Matthew is also anonymous; no proof he wrote it. Luke and Mark were not disciples at all. And for Paul, only God can forgive him. It took your early father's 300 years to develop the concept of trinity. I refuse to build my belief in God on uncertain attributions and second-hand claims. Jesus He referred to a gentile woman as a “dog” (something Muslims don’t accept). He feared death, and cried out for rescue. He admitted not knowing the Hour, didn't even know the fig's season He was tempted by the devil and repeatedly, he said: “God sent me/I am below God.” That is not God but a man under God’s authority? What the Prophets Would Say The core doctrines of Christianity original sin and the Trinity are absent from the Old Testament. Would Abraham or Moses have accepted the idea that the Creator became His own creation and died? They would have been astonished at such claims. Even your scriptures describe God in ways Muslims would never accept: a God who “regretted” creating man and flooding the earth, a God who “rested,” after the sixth day, a God who “wrestled” Jacob or a God deceived. I seek refuge in My God from such blasphemies, it must be whispers of the devil that drove men to write such blasphemy. I Worship as Jesus Worshipped I worship as Jesus worshipped: bowing, praying, and submitting to the One who sent him. Not inventing doctrines he never preached. Above all, he said: “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” Not to you. Not to me. May peace and blessings of God be upon Jesus, the son of Mary. Why Compare Prophets Jesus with Muhammad? For the umpteenth time: why compare Jesus to Muhammad (peace be upon them both)? Muslims know Muhammad was fully human. It would be a sin to equate him with God, just as it would be a sin to elevate Jesus to divinity. True Muslims do not rank prophets against one another; they were all noble men, chosen by God, and not the distorted portrayals found in the Bible |
TenQ is what happens when the Bible isn’t taught properly, and only the parts that fit western liberal and atheist ideals are highlighted . They don’t want to be like Islam unyielding in its definition of morality.If they studied honestly, they’d see that their accusations against Islam are either false, oversimplified, or nuanced; and their own history is far darker. We don’t, and won’t, take lectures from you or from the false gods of western liberalism that you’ve placed above your own God. The audacity!!! ![]() |
How can you call Islam sinful when the Bible allows genocide, sex slavery, father selling his daughter as a slave, and polygamy to 700 wives? On Snatching Wives No, I don’t know anyone in my Muslim community who “snatched” someone’s wife. And if it ever happens, I am clever enough to NOT judge what consenting adults decide between themselves if they can’t find what they are looking for in their initial marriage, especially when it doesn’t involve adultery. Marriage isn't by force!!! We thank our God that divorce is allowed in Islam without being limited to adultery, unlike in your Bible where it’s forbidden except in that adultery. What a miserable existence that might be! The Jewish Tribe The tribe you quoted: you conveniently and unsurprisingly missed a lot of background to the event including the Islamic political history the events before the punishment and how tribes make decisions back then. Including how it was a former Jew that judged and applied the law of Deuteronomy against his own former people. They had agreed to abide by it beforehand. The supposed “offense” was treason, and the punishment was according to the Bible. What now you hate Deuteronomy? Your God’s law? You are exhausting. Biblical Genocide So because God gave the land to the Israelites, so it was “okay” to k..ill…..,,,,, newborns and children of four groups: Amalekites, Canaanites, Moabites, Midianites. Yes, there were four genocides explicitly allowed in the Bible for anyone wondering. In the Qur’an, God allowed them the land but never commanded genocide of babies, Captives must be treated with dignity, and they had rights, wmen can also marry their slaves, not just men; slave prostitution is forbidden (Qur’an 4:36, 24:33). So, tell me, how can you lecture Islam on morality when your own God commanded that against innocents? Are you serious claiming moral superiority here? Sex Slavery Allowed Numbers 31:7–18: “But all the girls who have not known a man by lying with him, keep for yourselves.” Deuteronomy 21:10–14: Captive women could be taken, and if the man desired them as a wife, he can marry them. It doesn't mean they can't be taken as concubines. Exodus 21:7–11: Fathers could sell their daughters as servants or concubines. ;Polygamy and the Christian Hypocrisy Claim Really? Moral authority based on a timeline? The men of God Christians revere Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon, Moses had multiple wives. Jesus never condemned or abolished polygamy. So why lecture Islam now? Does your “morality” only start after Christ, or do you just cherry-pick what suits your narrative? Not surprised though, Christians often blaspheme against and deny their own prophets when their actions clash with Western liberalism and atheist ideals you seek to judge Islam with. Men closer to God than you’ll ever be are dismissed, while you cling to stories about him you barely know, half his life missing, the rest anonymous hearsays. The cracks will show .If Solomon in your Bible could have 700 wives and 300 concubines, I bet you can have 5,000 wives and 8,000 concubines? I have called out your audacity. Don't do that next time! Bye! TenQ |
I shall keep my opinion on the sentence. Because A 15 years old knows enough to not take a life! |
You have confused the Bible for the Qur'an. Christians tend to do that a lot. I don't know why, it is very bizarre. You are not the one to talk about morality AT ALL. The following are from your God (Known as Jesus) and his "chosen " people: 1. Slavery or sex slavery is in the Bible. In Islam, the matter is very nuanced. “Now ki.. all the boys. And ki.. every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” 2.Genocide: bible advocates for genocides including children and new borns and animals. (Numbers 31:7–18; 1 Samuel 15:2–3; Deuteronomy 20:16–18). There are wmore verses. You will never find same in the Quran. Quran goes if you fight us, we shall fight you but genocide? NEVER 3. Polygamy: Christians can marry as much as 700 wives as King Solomon of the Bible. many men of God in the Bible had multiple wives and no restriction was ever made. 4. Raepeise: Deuteronomy 22:28–29 – If a man rapeies an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay 50 shekels and marry her, without the right to divorce. That sums the sense in it. 5. Blasphemes against Men of God: King David (Peace be upon him) would never murder a man and steal and his wife. Jesus calling a gentile woman "a dog" unprovoked. Jacob tricking Issac. Jacob getting drunk. 6. Blasphemes against God: God regretted twice (Flooding and creating men) and God rested (creation story) and God is a man that cried, was scared and was tempted by the devil and was born of a woman. And there was another part where it reads the "Lord deceived". 7. Traps women in marriage: impermissible for a man or woman to divorce except for adultery basically marriage is a trap. I don't even want to start with New testament that relies on anonymous hearsays. You should not be talking about Islam. It is absurd and extremely rude. I will leave you with these links. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html&ved=2ahUKEwj5o4mJlq6PAxVqR0EAHc3BPTIQFnoECDoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0MaH0b8DyM6ALACCdFm_-u https://blog.cinqmarsmedia.com/is-islam-a-religion-of-peace-aea607622476 FYI, marriage in Islam isn't like your liberal and 21st century definition of marriage. It would never be! If a muslim finds or do not find tranquility in marriage, they can leave however so many common sense nuances. If you and some men decides to abuse marriage, to you is your account with God. Furthermore, the way we marry and divorce reflects how many conservative societies conduct marriages even outside Islam. You need to concentrate your effort on other cultures and religions and leave your obsession with Islam alone. TenQ: |
Nowhere...says who? Culturally, women have always had head coverings...then Qur'an came said women should extend their head coverings over their bosoms as well. And there are numerous scholarships that dates back to how slave and no -muslim women dressed then compared to Muslim women. The meaning of hijab isn't head coverings alone. I am glad you know that little fact. Harnny: |
And if you know anything about Islam or the slightest thing about the Qur’an, you would know this is exactly why elites are highlighted because they set trends that mislead the masses straight into hell. The Qur’an warns repeatedly that leaders and their followers will argue on Judgement Day, each blaming the other for misguidance (Surah Al-Ahzab 33:67–68). Surah Al-Ahzab 33:67–68: People will say, “Our Lord, indeed we obeyed our leaders and our great ones, and they misled us from the way. Our Lord, give them double the punishment…” Everyone chases the lifestyles of the powerful; Lmao. And some Muslims and Western puppets, in the name of “moving forward”, genuinely think adopting Western liberal standards of dressing is the benchmark of progress as if cloth length determines civilisation. If you’re so eager to imitate your masters, go ahead. To each his own; in the end every soul will account before God. God bless the Niqabites and Hijabites, who continue setting strides and breaking ceilings with their veils. Botragelad: |
You are even relying on Revelations written by John which is sillier because the disciple John never wrote about Jesus. A fisherman could not have written a detailed account in sophisticated Greek. It was impossible so no. Jew ko Jew no. 2mch: |
Again did you read the first paragraph, the example of tall, dark and handsome. Whether it is African hair or not depends on the context, therefore in this context it is NOT wooly hair. There is no way he would have been a black man! He would have stood out and other descriptions would have mentioned this! Even in Islamic context, there were people described as black, who weren't black but darker in comparison to the average Middle East. Yet there were actual black people in Islamic History. 2mch: |
In Oyinbo books they say tall, dark and handsome man, no one with two digits IQ ever thought they were referring to a Black man. It is always meant a white man with a darker complexion. Lots of Middle Eastern have always had brown skin and wooly doesn't mean "African hair". It could be wooly to them but it doesn't mean it describes us. Jesus was never black and would never have been black. dederocs: |
People that want us to worship water we can sand fill in the name of ancestral practice are very unusual. Doesn't that sound assured you? What else, we should worship clay we can smash and use as decorative pieces for walls. Ooni can volunteer Osun river and see it won't be sandfilled in a day. Sheffdon: |
There are many Christians, Jews and Muslims that have contributed to today's civilisation. It isn't about religion but government policies that support these initiatives. It is 2025. Let's apply our knowledge critically. Omoawoke: |
I noticed you only commented on one paragraph Again, we are not going to worship water we can sand-fill or metal we can melt into bedframes. That kind of belief is flawed; your ancestors were wrong. Just because something is "indigenous" doesn’t make it right or worth following especially worshipping things like water that we are superior to is much worse than mental slavery. It is just plain ridiculous and requires a question of your sanity. Belief in one God is indigenous to almost every people on earth. And the Qur’an is already available in English. You’re missing the basics: Islam is one religion for the whole world, with Arabic as the unifying factor. But understand this Qur’anic Arabic is not the same as everyday Arabic. Even native speakers struggle with its precision. Non-Muslims will naturally find it even harder to read as it should be read. So when Muslims meet across the world, Arabic is what binds their prayer. Complaining about Arabic, or using "indigenous belief" as an excuse is weak. Maybe you shouldn't be on the internet, because it is not indigenous. So sir, emancipate yourself from ridiculousness. It is absurd and speaks to your sanity! Will you not then reason? (Quran) Makinaki: |
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You would rather we worship water that we can sand-fill or iron we can melt into bedframes. Things ourselves can create or bend to our will, yet you want us bow to them. Muslims don’t worship a foreign religion. Even our forefathers knew there is one ultimate God. Muslim worship that; God reminds us: “And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam… [saying], ‘Am I not your Lord?’ They said, ‘Yes, we testify’” (Qur’an 7:172). That innate recognition of The God has always been with humanity. Even the Arabs mocked Islam as something strange, foreign to their practices and against their ancestral practices of idol worshipping, yet the Prophet Muhammad said: “Islam began as something strange, and it will return to being strange.” to affirm that they as well considered it foreign and strange. So we won't cling to what our fathers worshipped because God also says: “When it is said to them, ‘Follow what God has revealed,’ they say, ‘Rather, we follow what we found our forefathers doing.’ Even though their forefathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?” (Qur’an 2:170). Muslim worship the ultimate God directly, without jinns, idols, or any intermediaries. God does not have partner, not a child, not man, nor water. He is one God, the God and Muslim worship the God. Makinaki: |
so Nigerian Muslim ladies are humans and commit sins like every other human? ![]() Samantha125: |
Lies and more lies. May God call you to bear witness on this post! Guestmale: |
“And We will surely test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives, and fruits, but give glad tidings to the patient those who, when calamity strikes them, say: ‘Indeed, we belong to Allah, and indeed to Him we will return.’ It is they upon whom are blessings from their Lord and mercy. And it is they who are guided.” — Surah al-Baqarah 2:155–157 “Every soul shall taste death. And We test you with evil and good as trial; and to Us you will be returned.” — Surah Al-Anbiya 21:35 The believer is happiest when he dies, because he is relieved from the burdens of this world and enters the mercy of Allah. -Hadith “How wonderful is the believer’s state! His affairs are good in every situation: if he is happy, he gives thanks, and that is good for him; if he is tested, he is patient, and that is good for him. And death for him is a relief.” — Hadith |



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