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Again did you read the first paragraph, the example of tall, dark and handsome.

Whether it is African hair or not depends on the context, therefore in this context it is NOT wooly hair. There is no way he would have been a black man! He would have stood out and other descriptions would have mentioned this!

Even in Islamic context, there were people described as black, who weren't black but darker in comparison to the average Middle East. Yet there were actual black people in Islamic History.

2mch:
Wooly hair is African hair. Go and look at Cotton wool again and come back. You are obviously not black cause you can’t tell the difference.

In Oyinbo books they say tall, dark and handsome man, no one with two digits IQ ever thought they were referring to a Black man. It is always meant a white man with a darker complexion.

Lots of Middle Eastern have always had brown skin and wooly doesn't mean "African hair". It could be wooly to them but it doesn't mean it describes us. Jesus was never black and would never have been black.

dederocs:
In the songs of Solomon, Jesus was described as having woolly hair and brown skin...

People that want us to worship water we can sand fill in the name of ancestral practice are very unusual. Doesn't that sound assured you? What else, we should worship clay we can smash and use as decorative pieces for walls.

Ooni can volunteer Osun river and see it won't be sandfilled in a day.

Sheffdon:
bro there's sense in your write ups jare

Dem leave their own ancestry con dey practice and identify with foreign religion

Shame

There are many Christians, Jews and Muslims that have contributed to today's civilisation. It isn't about religion but government policies that support these initiatives. It is 2025. Let's apply our knowledge critically.

Omoawoke:
Normally I ignore single digit IQ people

But let me make this an exception

It’s weird that some people still think development automatically means Abrahmic religions. Yet the most technologically advanced countries today like Japan, China, South Korea and Singapore are not Christian nations nor Islam.

Japan leads the world in robotics while still honouring Shinto shrines and ancestral spirits. China became a global superpower while practising Taoism, Confucianism and ancestor veneration. South Korea gives the world Samsung, Hyundai and LG and still celebrates Chuseok, bowing to their ancestors every year. Not one of these countries abandoned their roots in favour of a foreign god before achieving greatness.

So why do Africans believe kneeling to the god of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (foreign ancestors) is what makes them “civilised”?

What exactly is foolish here? A Lagos State public holiday for Isese is not idol worship. It is restoration of identity. You don’t need to hate Jesus or Mohammed to love your own ancestors. But if your first reaction to anything African is to scream “demonic”, then you have simply proven that mental colonisation worked, your body is free, but your mind is still in chains.

How many Chinese have you seen bearing Mohammad, Ibrahim, Michael, Gabriel??
Just you confused black Africans, that take pride in bearing Arabic and Jewish names

I noticed you only commented on one paragraph

Again, we are not going to worship water we can sand-fill or metal we can melt into bedframes. That kind of belief is flawed; your ancestors were wrong. Just because something is "indigenous" doesn’t make it right or worth following especially worshipping things like water that we are superior to is much worse than mental slavery. It is just plain ridiculous and requires a question of your sanity.

Belief in one God is indigenous to almost every people on earth. And the Qur’an is already available in English. You’re missing the basics: Islam is one religion for the whole world, with Arabic as the unifying factor. But understand this Qur’anic Arabic is not the same as everyday Arabic. Even native speakers struggle with its precision. Non-Muslims will naturally find it even harder to read as it should be read.

So when Muslims meet across the world, Arabic is what binds their prayer. Complaining about Arabic, or using "indigenous belief" as an excuse is weak. Maybe you shouldn't be on the internet, because it is not indigenous.

So sir, emancipate yourself from ridiculousness. It is absurd and speaks to your sanity! Will you not then reason? (Quran)

Makinaki:
So Madam, for your mind, that Islam is indigenous to Africa, kwo? Arabic wey dem take write Koram is a Nigerian language, abi? Shior. Emancipate yourself from your mental slavery. None but you can do so!

If you value your kids’ mental health, raise them on old children’s shows. They don’t fry dopamine, overstimulate the brain, or sneak modern agendas that may be against your principles. Keep your kids off YouTube, TV, and Netflix.

You would rather we worship water that we can sand-fill or iron we can melt into bedframes. Things ourselves can create or bend to our will, yet you want us bow to them.

Muslims don’t worship a foreign religion. Even our forefathers knew there is one ultimate God. Muslim worship that; God reminds us: “And [mention] when your Lord took from the children of Adam… [saying], ‘Am I not your Lord?’ They said, ‘Yes, we testify’” (Qur’an 7:172). That innate recognition of The God has always been with humanity.
Even the Arabs mocked Islam as something strange, foreign to their practices and against their ancestral practices of idol worshipping, yet the Prophet Muhammad said: “Islam began as something strange, and it will return to being strange.” to affirm that they as well considered it foreign and strange.

So we won't cling to what our fathers worshipped because God also says: “When it is said to them, ‘Follow what God has revealed,’ they say, ‘Rather, we follow what we found our forefathers doing.’ Even though their forefathers understood nothing, nor were they guided?” (Qur’an 2:170).

Muslim worship the ultimate God directly, without jinns, idols, or any intermediaries. God does not have partner, not a child, not man, nor water. He is one God, the God and Muslim worship the God.

Makinaki:
I've never really understood why Nigerians carry foreign Abrahamic religions for head like Gala. She be Muslim, you be Christian. So damn what?

so Nigerian Muslim ladies are humans and commit sins like every other human?

Samantha125:
Wait, so Nigerian Muslim ladies have pre-merital sex? Call me ignorant, but I really thought they were innocent and don't engage in such things.

Lies and more lies. May God call you to bear witness on this post!

Guestmale:
Please don't come here with this your playing the victim attitude and wrong narration. In the first place are they supposed to even killed a single innocent person let alone 600 or 1200.

Secondly,why will Hamas be using human beings as shield and carmoflage to commit atrocities, digging underground tunnels under hospitals and public places. Many of the deaths are collateral damages which wouldn't have happened if Hamaz aren't using human shields.

Thirdly, what is so difficult for the Hamas in releasing all the hostages and surrender their arms and ammunition.

Fourthly,there's a saying that it's only the beginning of the war you can know, you can't know how it will end.

“And We will surely test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives, and fruits, but give glad tidings to the patient those who, when calamity strikes them, say: ‘Indeed, we belong to Allah, and indeed to Him we will return.’ It is they upon whom are blessings from their Lord and mercy. And it is they who are guided.”

— Surah al-Baqarah 2:155–157


“Every soul shall taste death. And We test you with evil and good as trial; and to Us you will be returned.”
— Surah Al-Anbiya 21:35

The believer is happiest when he dies, because he is relieved from the burdens of this world and enters the mercy of Allah.

-Hadith

“How wonderful is the believer’s state! His affairs are good in every situation: if he is happy, he gives thanks, and that is good for him; if he is tested, he is patient, and that is good for him. And death for him is a relief.”
— Hadith

Awon munafiqoons (hypocrites)

Surah An-Nisa [4:145]
Indeed, the hypocrites will be in the lowest depths of the Fire; and never will you find for them a helper.

Surah Al-Baqarah [2:14-15]

And when they meet those who believe, they say, ‘We believe’; but when they are alone with their evil ones, they say, ‘Indeed, we are with you; we were only mockers.’ Allah mocks them and prolongs them in their transgression while they wander blindly.

The best part is, Islam has always been filled with so many of them starting from of the time of the prophet.

What is it you don't like? That I am told you tell you that I am waiting with you as well?

You are waiting, I am waiting...we are both waiting. You don't like that?

Seunomobo:
I don't believe in your fictional story book.
Let it judge you who practice the acts in it not me..

Say..."So wait; indeed, we, along with you, are waiting"


- Surah Tawbah Vs 52

Seunomobo:
I'll be waiting

There are some opinions that should be shut down once and for all when they are brought up. If it leads to drama and all its accompanying siblings, so be It.

Send her back to family and continue to sponsor her.

She will be alright.

pocohantas:
For the first time words failed me o.

That is alright.

Again, this will be revisited. Have a long life!

Seunomobo:
I am not a Christian, I do not believe in any one but myself....
Life is a jungle, learn from the animals madam

I am going to assume you are a Christian.

Everyone is sufficient as their one accountant (Quran) and you will find it most exciting to tell your God about this.

He will even show it you in case your forget sef

Seunomobo:
Honestly, I think you should listen to your wife without questioning her motives, as a wife who's had a similar experience, I can relate.
My husband's niece lives with us, and I treat her like a helper. I've noticed that people who criticize wives in similar situations are often single or haven't had to deal with relatives staying with them and before having my husband's niece live with us, I was one of those quick to judge. But now, I see things differently. I use her help a lot, and my priority will always be my children. Let's be real, family dynamics can be complicated, and it's natural to prioritize our own blood relatives. Nobody will prioritize you like your parents do. We're all guilty of using people to some extent, and it's evident in our society.

By the way, nobody should quote me preaching the holy gospel to me, it will not change my stance, everyone is a user and it's evident in our society of today ...

Omo see the way she defended her evil actions

pocohantas:
Hiannnn̈nnnnnnnn!!!!!!

Again I don't care if your hate Islam

That si the beautiful thing about Islamaphobia, we have gotten used to the hate. You won't be the first bot the last

Goddyrichie:
for ur correct I don’t hate dem intentionally cuz I respect what everyone believe but I believe God say we should forgive and 2 why fighting for ur God why can’t ur God punish her instead of killing for ur God what kind of God is that that can’t fight for himself or instead forgive her and as for u saying abu Lahab where’s is he today me I believe everyone going to die one day weather u old or not

Someone already gave you an exhaustive list of why you are claims are absurd. It is a very minority opinion that is not popular and will never be popular amongst academic circles. Trust mez a lot of theologians think your Jay Smith a charlatan..

It is 2025 and I don't think you understand how ridiculous I find you. You claims are aon the same league with "Muhammad never existed" and "Allah si a moon god". I can even forgive "Muhammad is possessed " but this

Absurd, more absurdness, and more. We don't know where to start with absurdity. It is shame you live amongst us.

butterfly777:
Not every cited material is valid, so making reference to some materials does not automatically translate to giving VALID evidence.

And neither does your sentimentality serve as evidence.

Again you play revisionism with your religion

Please go and buy and read a lot of books including the Bible.

Our God says we should forgive as well but you are acting being a hypocrite if you think she should be let go at all.

A Muslim who goes to Myanmar to insult their gods old face same or worse. I won't blame the Myanmar government because thay would be expected but I would applaud them. What she did is very foolish, a lot of Christians like you would lie just to appear liberal and loving.

Goddyrichie:
for ur correct I don’t hate dem intentionally cuz I respect what everyone believe but I believe God say we should forgive and 2 why fighting for ur God why can’t ur God punish her instead of killing for ur God what kind of God is that that can’t fight for himself or instead forgive her and as for u saying abu Lahab where’s is he today me I believe everyone going to die one day weather u old or not

That is your headache o

Darling your God directed people to commit genocide on 4 different occasions in the Bible. A

There were a lot of women your people burnt to death because they were witches

You are not that one to talk! Your history is darker than dark itself. So shush please.

Goddyrichie:
oga Christian I know can’t kill her to say d truth islam too love killing slaughter u sef know no tell me wenti I dey see it’s only islam that kill for they’re God

Someone already has provided you with enough evidence.

Again, you are absurd, your claims are absurd that I genuinely worry about your lack of critical thinking. No jokes. I will lowk to believe that you went to school.

butterfly777:
You're asked to give convincing evidence that Muhammed, Mecca, Hajj, and Islam as we know it today was at the early times claimed by Islamics sources.

Instead, you're complaining about YouTube. How is your alfas better than YouTube. One can learn from anywhere a long as you have an open mind.

Please don't insist o.

Whatever blasphemy law is applicable in Morocco will be done. We don't care if you call Islam religion of peace or not . It is not of peace please. They can choose to forgive or not.

Deborah's death was sad and unjustifiable and the best part, there was no blasphemy. At most, she should have had a chance to prove her case.

Darling I love that you brought US and Israel into this, they are not the first empire nor will they rule forever. Also, they kill Christians too, bomb churches and call you pagans and they are mainly atheists. . Jesus will sure love you, O heretic!

When it comes down to it, you are pagan to them and we are of God.

Also, death comes to everyone including you . The grace is better for a believe than life (Hadith )

Omoawoke:
You don’t need to drag Christianity to this..

Face your own problem and tell us what your religion does to this kind of situation..

I insist that Islam is a religion of peace and won’t shed blood. They would forgive her.

And I see you are a Muslim, why are you choosing vengeance.
I am very sure you are among those smiling when Deborah Samuel was killed in cold blood and burnt.
I am sure it pleased you.
I am sure you are among those crying for Palestine.
Well, I am glad Israel is dealing with peaceful Muslims in Gaza in a peaceful way.

As long as you choose violence, you will continue to see those whose violence pass your own, if you think you get madness, madness pass madness.
All this mouth making only ends in Nigeria , go try am for US or Israel…. Israel na your papa

When you have verifiable facts/letters including wars between early Muslims and non Muslims. We can't say the same about Christianity.

There was a time modern Christian theologians and the West claimed Prophet Muhammad never existed until they realised it was all an absurd claim.

honesttalk21:
If you read through my ending paragraph in my initial response you will note I mentioned YouTube and other social media sources. Note my statement that information on YouTube wasn't absolute. I didn't say it was all false.

You stand with the video you shared from the YouTube channel Theological apologia which is engaging faith in Christ through Theological apologetics. Well you know that the view of apologetics is their propaganda dressed in scholarship.


Now,the idea that there are no non-Islamic references to Prophet Muḥammad (pbuh) from his lifetime is simply not true.

In fact, there are several non-Muslim sources from that time or just after that which mention him. Take, for instance, the Byzantine chronicler Theophanes from the early 8th century and the Armenian bishop Sebeos from the mid-7th century; both describe him as the leader of the Arabs who preached belief in one God.

Additionally, the Doctrina Jacobi, written around 634 CE just two years after his death talks about ‘a prophet among the Saracens’ who was active in Arabia. These accounts stand apart from Islamic tradition and provide solid evidence of his historical presence and leadership.
Just because some records are silent doesn’t mean we should ignore the positive evidence that does exist.

Sebeos, writing in the mid-7th century just a few decades after Muḥammad’s death, describes him as a merchant-prophet who brought the Arabs together to worship the God of Abraham, prohibited idolatry, and led them in conquests driven by their faith (Sebeos, c. 660s).

Although his account comes from a Christian perspective, it’s quite detailed and gives insight into how early Islam presented itself.

On the other hand, Theophanes the Confessor, writing in the early 9th century, portrays Muḥammad as a false prophet swayed by a heretical Christian monk and suggests that the Arab conquests were a form of divine retribution for the sins of the Byzantines (Theophanes, c. 810). While Sebeos provides a more contemporary and less contentious viewpoint, Theophanes reflects the later theological animosity of the Byzantine perspective.

Essentially the idea that Prophet Muḥammad pbuh is missing from non-Islamic history is simply not true. There’s a critical Christian text from his time, the Doctrina Jacobi (634 CE), which mentions ‘a prophet among the Saracens’ who preached about God and Paradise. Just a decade later, the Syriac Thomas the Presbyter Chronicle refers to ‘the Arabs of Muhammad’ in the context of battle. By the 660s, both the Armenian bishop Sebeos and the Khuzistan Chronicle recognize Muhammad pbuh as a leader, lawgiver, and teacher of monotheism. That gives us four independent, non-Islamic sources in just 30 years and is pretty solid early evidence compared to many ancient historical figures!

You may not like the disagreement in Jesus being the begotten son of God; a supreme one has no need for this, as well as disagreement about his crucifiction however in essence Muslims worship one Allah.

Be assured in your chosen faith despite our differences and at the appropriate point we all will know.

His assumption is right

Many wannabe Islam critics love YouTube and upon further inspection at times you know nothing about Islam.

For example, it takes a simmmmpleton to discount many materials aboit Islam because one or two charlatans say so. I worry for your critical thinking.


When we claim the Bible (John and Matthew) was most likely not written by eyewitnesses, that would be a MAJORITY opinion not the opinion of few charlatans.

butterfly777:
- First of all, your assumption that my source of learning about Islam is just through YouTube. That's no true.
- Secondly, you seem not to get the speaker well. He didn't say that Muhammed's name wasn't mentioned in the Quran. He said Muhammed's name wasn't mentioned in a non-Islamic source of the time he was claimed to have leaved. This creates doubt about the truth of his existence when Hadith claimed he was alive.

- That said, we have to respect the YouTube as a good source of learning. One just has to be objective and also examine ther sources of learning.
- Still, there is no evidence to show that early history of Islam is not man-made.

My God show us the truth in Jesus name.

They are very new and laughably absurd. No one that knew Islam during and subsequently after the prophet said this nonsense. Their only claim was Muhammad as possessed.

In fact when Christians claimed he didn't exist, it took a few sensible theologians that he did exist and now only foooolisssh people still claim that nonsense.

All Christian Apologists and none of them reputable. I am surprised that you don't know that Dr Jay Smith has been described is a charlatan.

If you bring me 100 theologians, 99 will look at you a fooool....

Shabir Ally? Are you alright at all?

butterfly777:
They are not new.

Even if they are new, it doesn't mean they're wrong.

No reputable scholar supports them? Let me mention just a few: Dr Jay Smith, Dr Robert Spencer. And probably Dr Shabir Ally.