₦airaland Forum

I've forgiven him

This forgiveness get as e beooo.

The material IS toxic and HIGHLY regulated in the UK. If caught doing this, the company can be severely fined.

This is nothing but greed. The recycling company claims to have recycled the product, got paid for recycling but ships the product off to Nigeria.

Who allows them into the country?. Don't they clear them at the ports?

you are delibeartely missing the point. this same problem repaeats itself everyday in the lives of everybody.

example
a brand new original gsm mokia xxxx phone sells for n7000

someone gets a shipment of used nokia xxxx phones, buys covers and sells them as brand new

whether you are rich or poor, you are being cheated - worse, you will prolly not get value for your money - the phone may only last 3 mths

They can do that as refurbished or fake. The price may give you an inclination of how original they are. Some people call me here and request for a laptop computer but when you tell them the price, they usually shrug and tell you it's too expensive because they can get it half the price at the computer village.

Oyb, sometimes the price of a particular item may be a giveaway to the authenticity of that item especially nowadays we can easily verify them online. Like i said before, they have bootlegs here in the states and they look very much like originals but their prices are always a give away to it's authenticity.

Secondly, Nigerians love expensive stuff for the purpose of ostentation. That's why they wish for phones that are well over $1K for a price in the range of $300. Cut your coat according to your cloth.

hotfunmi, as an engineer - i can tell you authoritatively that a large number of importers bring in fake/substandard products and sell them at normal prices. and it is getting harder and harer to id the fakes

just yeasterday, we were arguing on site witha contractor who was supplying us an inverter . the model did not coreespond with the manual provided.it was not in its original box.  the serial and model numbers were nowhere to be found on the body of the inverter. when i looked up information on it online, it appears it is a model from 2005/2006. when we powered it up we had issues.
the installer was blowing all sorts of grammer. i simply made a recommenadation not to accept it. earlier the same installer had been going on and on about how his boss is a 'big boy' well thats how most of these 'big boys' make their money, by selling fake/scrapped prodcuts as originals.

and those pricks make my life very, very hard

They have same problem in China too but your personal agro shouldn't be mixed up with a national issue here. 70% of Nigerian citizens cannot boast of an income equivalent to that of a successful engineer so, an engineers problem with the market is irrelevant to us.

i advocate we find a solution to the poverty and people will choose for themselves from reputable companies but you advocate we stop the importers.

Let me tell you the problem with your policy, if you ban drug barons from importing cocaine into a country, will it reduce the number of crack heads in that country? No, because they'll look for another drug of choice available and if they can't find any, they may resort to sniffing their toilets of gutters. It's rather better for you to find a cure for the drug addicts while controlling their access to these products.

In America, they also have bootlegs on the streets but if you can afford to buy a Gucci bag from a Gucci store, why waste your time with a vendor that may sell you a fake one?

poverty has nothing to do with it. it is all about greed. where will paupers get the money to import oyinbo scrap in the first place?

a few years ago, MTN scrapped some defective cards. what happened - someone redirected them to the market. this was the time when cards were still was it 5000, or 500 - i forget. but you get the idea. they were selling them all over CMS at that time.

OYb, look at Nigeria in it's entirety, what percentage do you think that can finance any form of importation even if they are scrap?. If citizens are not poor, they wouldn't have any need to buy substandard products.

you are right but why import a fridge that affects the Ozone layer? does it matter if it's lethal to humans?

Ozone layer in Africa?. Start by banning all those beetles that run from Ojota to ojodu for a small fee.

so is that not what is happening? i am not talking about lightly used/fairly used here - i am talking about things they have thrown away.

Thrown away where?. They recycle stuff here so, Nigerians should stop believing oyibos throw stuff away. If those things are actuallt toxic, they will not keep them where Nigerian businessmen will have access to them because they may end up poisoning their citizens during the process of collecting, loading them and taking them to the seaport.

I remember when they used to tell us that cars lie around on the streets of Europe with the keys in their ignition. Big lie.

A substance can be toxic without being lethal. A toxic dose below LD50 can make you seriously sick without killing you (which is what lethality is all about).

Toxic is quarter to lethal and it's not a good thing. It also depends on what they mean by toxic because imported chemicals are also naturally toxic.  If they are electronics, wouldn't that be Tv's, computers and cell phones?. Are they radioactive or what?

Read up again, this is not about importing secondhand goods in Africa, but about dumping wastes that costs them money to recycle in third world countries, despite the risks posed. I know they do this a lot in Ghana, but did not realise they have shifted base to Nigeria too

Is it not the Nigerian customs that allow them to bring them into the country?. There was a time Nigerians were feeding on imported turkey that were declared unhealthy in Europe. Some speculated we had corned beef made from mad cow in UK during the mad cow epidemic in Britain. France once tested some radioactive materials in the Sahara desert causing the influenza epidemic in Africa and so on. Poverty is the root cause of these rubbish, I'd say. Very soon, Japan will dump SARS infested cell phones in our corridors.

see deepthroat calling me dcikhead Grin

wonders shall never end

Don't forget to add chauvinist pig to your list of titles. I think Nigerian women should be calling you to curse you out instead of their state govt.

the real issue is the fact that importing oyibos scrap and selling it at a hefty profit is big business

scrapped cars are sold in nigeria as fairly used, clothes from dead hospital patients in the us /uk are sold until we stop this policy of importing scrap to sell as goods, this will continue

Nigeria is not the only country that imports second hand items. Many poor countries in Asia and eastern Europe do the same. Have you asked yourself how products and services will work if we rely only on new vehicles?. How many people can afford a new car in Nigeria today especially for commercial purposes. Until the problem of poverty is solved, you can never successfully enforce the laws otherwise you'll be exposing your citizens to illegal behaviors. A country that has 5th lowest GDP in the world cannot afford to do that. I am sure some Nigerians will buy a used food or condom.

The effect is gonna be felt by the 2nd quarter of 2009. If you want to buy anything in Nigeria, do so now before April.

osunashawo/ho-funmi/redhotrick/deepthroat has come again
if you called me a tribalist - i might even understand , since i have siad some less than pleasnt things about those pencil carrying boys you are following Grin, but a chauvinist

You may need to get a lawyer before you implicate yourself the more otherwise Rotimi's case may be your case very soon. I never called you a tribalist and am yet to see the proof you are one. All am sure is that you are a manliness head.

If the right steps were taken to sack this man, it shouldn't matter who is picked to replace him.
I honestly feel that the selection of a replacement should be purely based on qualifications and absolutely, not because you come from my mother's village or based on how many times you're able to kiss my ass per minute.

This is the only method to effectively and efficiently move this country forward.

Each region can produce at least 10 qualified people for that job. Why i advocate for quota system is because that is how our govt was structured. Ministerial, ambassadorial, congress leadership and even the presidency were allocated by the quota system. There is no way Yaradua will strip this man of his position and hand it over to an hausa man or Edo man or any non Yoruba indigene because it'll be unfair. If you want them to use only standard to measure appointments, let them recall everybody and select them per qualification, let's see the region that will suffer most.

9/10.

I withdraw my comment if you had to understand my humor wrongly. My mistake.

I neither misunderstood your humor nor was I offended by it. Funmi is rock solid and have weathered worse yabs in the history of Nairaland. I fear no male mortal.

Stop defending him. He is as bad as the rest of them. I repeat, Otumokpo and Amadioha will deal with him if he doesn't change.

Do you have any proof of your allegation or are you just stereotyping him because he's a governor/politician?. There are honest politicians in Nigeria and Oyinlola is one of them so, stop lumping them together, abeg. You cannot compare him with Fayose or Oni or Daniels or Odili.