Henry120: The South African National Defense Force is reportedly considering selling off its Gripen fighter planes and its Agusta A109 helicopters as it has no money to operate them.
According to a Beeld report, the South African Air Force's 18 Agusta helicopters were occasionally enabled but the craft did not ascend.
Due to military budget cuts, the 26 Gripen fighters purchased in the controversial arms deal were also not being used. The report said that the SANDF was considering selling off the aircraft due to the lack of money.
Military expert Helmoed-Romer Heitman suggested that the SAAF was suffering from the state's indecision about its military expectations.
"An air force without fighter aircraft is a dead duck in Africa's military context. An army without helicopters and transport aircraft is a dinosaur in a swamp," he was quoted as saying in an IOL report.
"An army without attack and tactical transport helicopters is a lame duck. A navy without helicopters and maritime patrol planes is blind."
2013 report, but it clearly proves my point.
we all know these SA goons here are just talking for patriotic reasons. the real experts keep revealing the reality. so sad for the SALoanDF
mzilakazi: The true reflection of the Nigerian Army ad told by the Commander who is directly involved with the operation of the military on daily bases, absolutely not lies and fallacious claims that @agaugust is parading to us. Now we know what Nigerian military is.
PLEASE MR PRESIDENT SAVE THE MILITARY AND NIGERIA FROM COLLAPSING
1. Sir, I am constrain to write you this letter which I consider it a matter of more than great importance for me to inform you and put to record issues that are happening in the North East (Operation Zaman Lafiya). I choose this medium to write you this open letter because I have written similar letter but no action was taking which I believe some forces have blocked it are now after my life. Sir I have served in 7 Division as staff officer and presently I am the commanding officer of 103Bn in the field. My combined wealth of experience as a staff officer and now commanding officer are the disturbing fact that necessitated me to write you this letter. While as a staff officer, I was among those who believed that the commanders in the field are not doing well. But presently, as a commander in the field, I found out that it is not the fault of any commander that the defeat of the so called BOKO HARAM (BH) has not been achieved.
2. First and foremost sir, the Nigerian Army is poorly equipped in the North East, if all the battalions are well-equipped as required; it will not take the Army more than two weeks to flush out the BH. Presently there are four units in my location here in KONDUGA including 21 Armoured Brigade HQ. If all the units are provided with all their requirements, we can advance and flush out BH out of North East. Mr. President sir, the Nigerian Army is well-trained and capable of defending our nation. It has demonstrated the capacity to even successfully enforce peace in other nations. Why not in our own country Nigeria?
3. The fact about NE operation is that we are poorly equipped, understaffed, high corruption from Army Headquarters down to battalion level. Commanders see it as opportunity to make money. My predecessor has complained of the same problem. Instead of ASA addressing the issue raised by him, the army authorities decided to Court Martialled him. All the units in NE are understaffed, but on payroll their strength are complete just to collect more allowances than what each unit is supposed to. The commanders see it as a personal money making venture rather than taking care of men and equipment. This ugly trend led to loss of many officers and soldiers and thereby having adverse effect on the moral (sic) of troops. Majority of soldiers in the operation area wear mufti (civil cloths) under their military uniforms in case there is an attack and the troops cannot withstand the BH, they found it easy to disguise as civilians to enable them escape. This is not the traditional practice in the NA. Though it is lack of adequate equipment and poor administration from the higher authority that resulted to this ugly trend by our troops
4. Sir, another bad and unprofessional act is that soldiers don’t take to orders from their superior officers because they have lost confidence/trust from them. The case of former General Officer Commanding 7 Division Major General A. Mohammed is enough evidence to show that all is not well in the Nigerian Army. It will interest you to note that worse cases has been recorded before that of the former GOC and more are still happening, but nobody is ready to investigate the root cause of problems facing the troops in the field.
5. This brings me to a recent occurrence which is my main purpose of writing this letter. As I mentioned earlier, due to the failure of the authority to address issues that I made mentioned, when a unit is attacked and overran by the BH not because the soldiers are unable to fight, but lack of weapons, ammunitions and communications equipment, the soldiers on many occasions will ran away, and a commander cannot stand and fight alone as a result of this. Presently seventy percent of commanders in the NE are facing Court Martial due to the reasons mentioned. We the commanding officers are very worried over this development. This is because we many soon find our self as victims of this maladministration from our higher authorities.
6. There is no sincerity in this operation; this is because the present acting GOC has never visited any location outside Maiduguri town not to talk of principal staff officers in Army Headquarters or even the COAS. But we keep on hearing all sorts of lies that Generals are leading the fight against BH. These are facts that can be confirmed from officers and soldiers in this operation including those in the 7 Division Headquarters. The GOC is so afraid that even with the Divisional Headquarters; he doesn’t go out and always locked himself inside his office. Infact it is a common knowledge among officers and soldiers in this operation that the acting GOC is here to make his money and earn his promotion to the detriment of the operation. The completion of his mansion at No 8 Gwamna Road in Kaduna which the GOC ignorantly disclosed that when he completed it, will be among the best houses in Kaduna, has turned to be a subject of discussion among troops.
7. The former 21 Armored Brigade commander is facing Court Martial today because the acting GOC does not want to see him and his garrision in Maiduguri town simply because of the huge monthly allocations from the Borno State government to the brigade garrision. He wanted to be collecting his money by using 7 Div Garrison, but in reality 7 Div Garrision does not have troops to claim such money. It is worthy to note that the GOC received 33,000litres of AGO and PMS each, 600 bags of rice monthly from Borno State government. All these items are diverted for his personal use.
8. Recently the newly appointed 21 Brigade commander lead 3 units to flush out the BH, that operation was successful, almost 300 BH were killed, weapons and vehicles were recovered from them, in the process the troops exhausted their ammunitions from the Div, the GOC simply replied that there was no ammunition this made all the troops to withdraw back to KONDUGA.
9. Presently more than 3000 officers and soldiers are either killed in action, deserted, captured as POW or on AWOL. But due to lack of proper administration the army directed that their salary should be stopped. This affect the families of those that are either genuinely killed in action or captured as Prisoners of War. It has also affected some of the troops that are still participating in this operation.
10. Mr. President sir, if all issues raised in this letter are not urgently address, the Nigerian Army will soon be history and by implication there will be no country called Nigeria. No country without strong army will survive. I decided to write you this letter because the life of officers and soldiers trusted in my care are no longer save. My life is also at the stake because the NA authority as usual will say I have communicated directly to you as the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces and may sanction me. As a citizen of this country and a commander in the operational area, with all the points I have mentioned in this letter, it is clearly that the Military authorities have failed the country, as such they should be held liable for their misdeeds. I have consulted seasonal constitutional lawyers if writing you this letter will be an offence, but they said it is my constitutional right to inform the C in C about what is happening in the NE and within the military which if not address will affect the survival of Nigeria.
you forgot yo post the source of your fake letter mr man.
CAMNEWTON4PRES: trust me the day Cameroon will work against Nigeria or with france is the day Nigeria will only exist in history book
furthermore as a typical uneducated Nigerian supremacist you need to get educated and get in your thick skull that Cameroon was not a colony and you that is not shitty , big and def not a colony what are you waiting for ? come and take it back ..funny how someone in my thread mentioned land grab and here I am confronting a land grabber, I can only advise you this way, I indeed you love Nigeria do not mess with us , not only we are your only hope in this region but we can annihilate you and conquer a big chunk of your territory if we want, we don't believe in emptiness and are not loudmouthed but be sure that whenever our mind is on something we go to the fullest to have it. I think at this time it is necessary to remind you that Nigeria owe us more territory and sooner or later we will get it back, and before you start crying , you are not alone , you all land grabbers surrounding us will give us back what belongs to us or face the wrath of our imperialistic army, the empire has been awaken, ,our shackles have been broken, we have shake off from our slumber, we have the youth and the will ......trying anything don't cry the world hate you when you start counting your bodies
bwahahahahahaha... this guy should be king in the comedy section.
orobs93: Apc just like real Madrid full of stars...rochas all the way...
roaches better go and sit down. a man who has finished owerri with sub standard projects. the pedestrian bridges he built is a death trap no sane imolite is ready to die using. dude is sooooo unqualified.
u still wonder why fashola was dropped from the race. dude would have been the best alternative to jonathan. they are both performers but jonathan is too weak to hold this country.
my mum is always worried anytime she sees the news about buhari's intention. these are the people that felt the brutality of this dictator, ( of course i was still a kid then so wasn't aware of these things) not us young ones that blindly support him. (i used to support him till my mum gave me the chilling story of buhari's reign as a dictator).
my question to Nigerians is.. why do we love bad leaders so much and pray for their comeback?
obasanjo was a dictator who governed poorly and still failed under a democratic rule. now it's buhari's turn to take us to the dark ages. what we don't realize is that these people will continue to have that traits of dictatorship in them no matter how they re-emerge. what does he want from aso villa that he is willing yo borrow money to contest for? why isvhe desperate?
i don't like jonathan but the APC will make me hold on to my vote if peopke like fashola don't contest for the number one seat. not these old failed politicians who had nothing but sorrow tears and blood to offer when they had the chance.
mzilakazi: You really do not understand that there are some of the weapon system which will really not adapt well with gripen as a platform. The integration of some weapons might possibly interfere with the effective operation of the fighters' software and thus causing the overall malfunctioning. However, the A-Darter has been found out to be the perfect compatible AAM for gripen fighters. Mr stillchriss, you just have to understand that the gripen system is very complex and is not just another system from SU-30, JF-17 or a J7 system.
it's funny how you saffers always have excuses whenever your weaknesses are exposed.
you bought an expensive hardware you need permission to fully use. did you know that just like our uncoming OPVs we can use whatever avionics we want on the jets?
the junk is on par with your over priced and outdated fighter. heck, the pakis will even let us use whatever we want on it if we wish. soooo unlike the conditions the swedes gave you.
patches689: 1) Nigerians are of unknown training and are no where near the best in the continent, confirmed by the fact that your men had to be trained from scratch.
2) Russian training is inferior to Western Training
3) Your emotional nature has cost you an opportunity you will never again receive
1) sure, no training, yet carried out successful peace enforcement operations when SA was still struggling for identity. and we refused to be trained from scratch, we are not the iraqis... period. the police CTU that recently arrived from intensive COIN training from Russia defended damaturu from BH in a blitzkrieg attack (you are aware that's the strategy BH used and it's not easy to defeat expecially in a populated area) before the army and airforce intervened. that's what we need... intensive COIN training from expereineced professionals. i.e russia, israel
2) no need to respond to that seeing as your pro western stance will blind you from an effective debate. so, whatever floats your boat.
3) pray tell what opportunity is that. is it advanced weapons systems we will never get from the west? advanced infantry training on media? please, enlighten us what opportunitiese we have missed mr patches.. since you are the smart one.
patches689: Nope, that is literal fact according to a US Embassy press release reported on by ENCA
Your "ranger" battalion completed phases 1 and 2, but will not receive phase 3 which is advanced combat training
i believe the boldened i quoted was whatvi referred to.
yes we cancelled it cos the russians offered better training in just one phase.
mind you, aside from the useless propaganda from the US, phase 2 never commenced and this is among the reasons the training was cancelled. Nigerian army does not need to be trained from the scratch, we already have one of the best infantry on the continent.
what we only need is advanced counter terror training which the US claimed they feared would be used on civilians. a gap the Russians and Israelis have filled and will be backed up wiyh weapons supply without the human rights brouhaha.. so tell me why we shouldn't ignore the US since we have already been ignored.
but go ahead, argue about Nigerian issues with a Nigerian. we know that's how you roll.
Henry120: They can say whatever they like. After all, the U.S military assistance was all media and no substance. Just like everything with the Americans.
We would defeat this insurgency, that is a fact, we only need to tailor the media to report the news primarily from our point of view, propaganda or not, it is imperative that we do so.
canceling the training was the best thing to do. i watched an aljazeera interview of a retired british army colonel as to why the slow assistance to Nigerian military from the west. the guy made a very insightful revelation that the west will never give the required training and weapons to the Nigerian military because of the abuses in the north. (against BH for that matter). something they do with impunity to terror suspects. (UK had a death squad that targeted terror suspects during their own insurgency), saying they fear that kind of lethal training will be used against civilians. of course he was referring to the military dictatorship that ended like 14 years ago.
we desperately need to overhaul our defence and foreign policies.
it seems the US media attack has started since we canceled military training with them. i saw one article from a US media saying Nigeria will collapse now that the US has left.
the propaganda war has begun. and i fear it is one our government will lose cos they never learn.
can someone tell this old fool to just shut up already. so now that he is not in power he realizes the youths are the future but when he was seeking a sit tight presidency he was blind to that fact. Nigerian politicians, always forming saints after losing power. just like ezekwesili. rubbish old monkey
haba bros. this clip is just to support the news of an event to come na. not the actual exercise. from the little i saw, it was well cordinated and cool. and it wasn't just the police.
Henry120: Since none of us saw it, have checked on youtube, and it hasn't been uploaded @Chris, can you give us a vivid description of what you saw?
wish i could bro, like @fynline said, the coverage was just too poor. instead of focusing a little more on the exercise, na the ogas dem just dey interview anyhow. that's why i couldn't properly identify the sbs/dss men.
there was a mock security drill in abuja today that involved special forces from all security serviced. it's in preparation for a possible westgate styled attack ( since boko haram likes to copy so much). The DSS troopers stole my heart with their gear but i got kinda confused if they were DSS or SBS since they both wear black.
@henry should be able to tell cos they wore the standard plain desert like tactical gear.
it was a nice clip i saw on AIT 8 pm news.
i hope pictures will be released soon. won't hold my breath though
tqmbuwal should be arrested for breaching the constitution of he refuses to step down as Speaker. no where in the world does a minority bloc lead the majority in any house of assembly. he is now a minority and has no business being the speaker.i don't know why Nigerian politicians just love trouble like this.
and by the way it is shameful that PDP has not dealing with false and those agbero lawmakers in Ekiti for the recent show of shame over there. what is wrong with these politicians sef
ayukdaboss: Pity yourself. Are you in support of yesterday's show of shame?
the show of shame was caused by her APC pay masters. and it's not news that the group is lead by APC senior members.
there is no where in history where a minority party in the house of reps leads the majority. tambuwal should be arrested for breaching the constitution. trying to convene a house where he is now a minority? since he was selected to be speaker under the PDP as the majority party, he should step down now that he belongs to the minority. it's common sense. only in Nigeria will which nonsense be allowed to slide.
the police tried to be civil but the rascal APC don't understand the meaning of civility.
fela was right right all. Majority of Nigerians are like zombies. ignorant to the benefit of these rogue politricktians.
mzilakazi: Nigerian army will lose a bitter battle against SANDF.
Soldiers who cannot carry their weapons correctly will not stand a chance against SANDF.
the same H.I.V invested SANDF? same one your ministry of defense has confessed to being over stretched despite being involved in very few operations with less than 5000 personnel deployed. try protecting your border from ordinary rhino poachers before you can confidently brag abeg.
you dey mind patch? on the other hand, war crimes against boko haram isn't a bad way to go.( i assume the group is what the guy is sympathetic to. not civilians)