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BlackBaron:
Planting is just some of the obligatory nonsense drills to imply they make soldiers better. The supporters would also tell you that second video with horsewhips and cane is another to make them better.

It's part of what makes a few turn out to be sadists after army camp with that brutality.

that's what disciplinary commitees or whatever other countries call it are there for. every soldier in the world goes through inhumane treatment in training. and every soldier in the world is a potential rights abuser (it's not exclusive to Nigeria).

however, it is the responsiblity of the disciplinary body to reign in on soldiers who do such.

neither you nor i are in the position to judge what goes on in these training academies cos you can't tell me the top brass don't know about it. they as well went through it and it's part of what made them men.

if you are a Nigerian graduate and have passed through NYSC camp (not lagos and other soft ones) you'll know what i'm saying.

i thougt i was stubborn till i was fvcked up along with a few guys in front of the whole camp for dodging morning drills(imagine in front of those fine girls).

part of that and a lot more changed my orientation, toughened me for real bro.

MikeCZAR:
WT...F!

And someone will protect practices like these ?

cadets punishment/discipline is not alien to any military training in the world.

you guys don't have an idea what goes on in most training academies inbthe world. you have never been soldiers that's why you would scream abuse.

drop it alright. i have seen stories of worst commited by US trainers on their cadets. worst enough to be considered bullying and abuses.

it's not your business so move on. they are training soldiers not boys scouts

http://m.courier.co.uk/Army-Cadets-abused-Crowborough-training-camp/story-17123533-detail/story.html

https://www.rt.com/usa/female-cadets-sexual-assault-041/

“I believe that they had been doing it for a while. It makes me sick and saddened inside. It really, really, does. I was told that the cadets had their own internal investigation, but I’m not aware of what happened,” she added

https://www.rt.com/uk/218351-mod-compensation-abuse-cadet/

Mind you, the media gets wind of it doesn't mean it stops. You blokes should investigate yours and you'll understand what i'm saying

Nigerian soldier recieving treatment on the battlefield

what's the difference between this man and APC zombies?

M14A1:
I refuse to conform to your preset definitions and standards, if you cant point out the error, you certainly have no right to correct.

that first pic with the burning vehicle looks like a civilain jtf. is it?

thise guys should be integrated in the army by now. at least most of them

Henry240:
It burgles the mind, i don't see how the SANDF pulling out of Darfur is Nigeria's business. We can discuss the reason why, but that's that.

It took Nigeria contemplating over 1 year to deploy to Mali, when the French deployed, our politicians began acting all serious and forming activity.


Nigeria only has a few military advisors/Trainers in Mali, there are no combat troops or heavy equipment there. We only have Policemen in active duty in Mali, and that's it.


Every country has challenges not just the Nigerian military or SANDF.

I think BH exposed a lot of weaknesses in our military (thanks to OBJ's policy of downsizing and degrading the military due to washington's advise), and the military was cautious not to commit to such an offensive operation we clearly lacked the capabilities to execute at that time.

At first it was easy chasing out boko haram when they lacked conventional capabilities. A kind of war we were to engage in Mali at that time.

I think too much engagement in "peacekeeping missions" also added to our weakness.

Thank God we are gradually getting it right again.
We just need to lay our hands on some mad platforms if we are to prepare for ISIS. I believe Nigeria is in their sight and I don't trust our dull politicians to pay attention.

agaugust:
Some people here go soon bite you wit dem jealousy teeth and tear ya cloth

Pic....RPG declared surplus

bro, to be honest, if i were a moderator i go don ban you since.

i like this thread a lot and some of your post are quite provocative enough to start some baseless arguments that can ruin this thread. i love my country and all but sometimes we just have to be civil especially in a place that requires it.

i think south africa pulling out of darfur is none our business as they have their reasons.

same way we had ours when we pulled out major combat troops from mali before elections and we also defended had our reasons for pulling out some troops from same darfur and we happily defended the decisions on this forum.

my point is that there are some arguments you just don't get into if this thread is to be kept clean.

no harm in correcting a foreigner's info about your military when wrong should only be allowed. (i got my eye on you @patches )

abeg bro. make we try abide by the rules.

patches689:
*Best armored vehicle in SSA coming through*

Note: Driver wearing a Wermacht hat

why didn't ypur army upgrade to this? had this pic since last year.

agaugust:
Yea, like deploying your men inside Nigeria, is more important to you.

The news made all South Africans happy until it was proved false. None of you guys complained about needing your troops elsewhere when it was time to deploy SANDF in Nigeria, you were all very happy to deploy them where the job is now very easy after hundreds of Nigerian troops have died fighting to crush Boko Haram this far.

Yes every South African is happy to abandon Darfur Sudan where the suffering Dafurians have no army, but same South Africans are rejoicing at the news of deploying their special forces to Nigeria that already has a 100,000 man army including 10,000 SF and CT-COIN forces, and a war that has almost ended with Boko Haram heavily degraded and decimated.....yea, shows how heartless, selfish, and glory stealing South Africans are, they do NOT love Africa, all they ever want is national glory even if they have to steal it. What a shame.

PIC: Nigerian SF, CT-COIN...best trained-experienced in Africa...cool & confident...needs NO help

c'mon bro, not here.

this post can turn this thread to another who's d1ck is bigger thread

Henry240:
OFF Topic

Military related.


Hitting the Cinemas soon, "76" a Nigerian movie about a failed military coup. Promises to be a very interesting watch.


This movie took 7 years to produce, impeccable attention to detail in the scenes. The actors had to undergo military trainings for some of their scenes.

I'm seriously waiting for this movie to be released. The preview is mad

ANOTHER HIGH PROFILE BH TARGET BITES THE DUST

Troops of 7 Multinational Joint Task Force Brigade Quick Response Group (QRG) stationed in Baga and 118 Task Force Battalion, sprang an ambush along Daban Masara axis used by Boko Haram terrorists elements to convey logistics on Thursday.

At the encounter, one of the suspected wanted Boko Haram terrorists leaders who is serial number 95 on the first Nigerian Army wanted list of 100 Boko Haram terrorists leaders, was fatally wounded in the exchange of fire. He later gave up while receiving medical attention at the base, while other members of his team escaped with gun shot wounds.

The troops recovered 7 Jerri cans of 30 litres containing 210 liters of Premium Motor Spirit (PMS), motorcycles and food stuff in addition to arms and ammunitions.

The pig's pic below

it's so annoying how men have become pvssies in relationships these days.

you found evidence your girl is cheating and you came to nairaland to seek advise. you be monkey wey no fit toast other girls?

and please don't ever equate love with infatuation. you are infatuated not in love. i keep reading the "i love him" "i love her so much" in just few months in a relationship. like WTF do you know about love?

niggas need to grow some balls and be men. gadamit... grow some balls niggas.

this sh1t is annoying as fvck

patches689:
[s]I said:



This is correct (Dikwa is on your side of the border no?)

So how did i lie?

You need to calm down, properly read what people post and not fly into an emotional rage at the drop of a hat.
[/s]

No you clown. It's not your typo error that matters here. It's the fact that you keep trying to justify a false media report despite that I have provided original press releases that proves it.

And your attempt to do that with more falsehood makes my response to you appropriate.

Sorry guys.. I'm going to stop now since I've made my point

iblawi:
113 kilometers from chad's capital not to Nigerian border. Dikwa is a town very close to our border. For God's sake Lagos to Accra Ghana is only 450 km (two countries away) so tell US how a border town will be 113km from the border. You read too many fake news.

he gets turned on by lies

patches689:
They still operate on Nigerian soil (Ie;Dikwa is 113km from the Chadian border), which goes to the point that foriegn troops have deployed to and operated on your soil. So saying that they could potentially do so again is not unrealistic.

I'm going to get in on this to let readers know how not to take your opinions seriously since they are always clouded with lies.

And it's military related and I'm bored

First of all, a little education on the MNJTF since you are clearly ignorant about it.

The task force was first organised as a solely Nigerian force in 1994, during the administration of Sani Abacha, to "checkmate banditry activities and to facilitate free movement" along its northern border.[1][2] In 1998 it was expanded to include units from neighbouring Chad and Niger with the purpose of dealing with common cross-border security issues in the Lake Chad region, with its headquarters in the town of Baga, Borno State.[2]

With HQ was in Baga. A Nigerian border town. Please educate yourself

And yet again @patches you lie. The Chadians Are not on Nigerian soil. They played their part as a member of the MNJTF and were asked to withdraw because what they claimed was false.

Following report that Chadian troops are withdrawing from Nigeria before it was later alleged that, it was Nigerian authorities that asked them to leave Dakiwa, a town in Borno State that was reportedly reclaimed from Boko Haram by Chadian troops, some concerned Nigerians have negatively reacted to government’s decision.

https://www.naij.com/401977-insurgency-nigerians-react-to-chadian-troops-withdrawal.html

We went in and finished the job with pictoral evidence that we did. (something the media and chadians couldn't provide despite their claims)

https://www.naij.com/499081-photos-nigerian-army-dislodge-boko-haram-members-dikwa-borno-state.html

And patches, DIKWA IS A BORDER TOWN WHICH FALLS IN THE AOR OF THE MNJTF

More than three weeks after the Nigerian military issued a statement saying it had recaptured Dikwa, a border town in Borno state,

http://icirnigeria.org/nigerian-military-rids-dikwa-of-boko-haram-insurgents/

Stop trying to misconstrue the activities of the MNJTF to Back your fallacy.

The MNJTF have always operated across the borders of the contributing states. Now that Cameroon has joined in we have seen pics of Nigerian troops on Cameroonian border towns as well.

My response to your lies is for other readers to know the facts.

So feel free to prove otherwise (of course not with your personal flawed opinions)

Pic: Nigerian Army SF with Cameroonian counterparts working across the border as members of MNJTF

patches689:
Im not wasting my time with this.

of course you shouldn't. next time get your facts right before posting your opinions

patches689:
Why are you getting so emotional over this?

Its simply a hypothetical discussion. I never once said that we would deploy, I have only ever said we may deploy.

You need to calm down.

Pic: Nigerian SF, early days

stop aluding anything that pinches you to an emotional outburst. it won't make me stop.

i was only giving factual reasons and not giving persinal opinions based on false press release from only your media

patches689:
1. Please dont insult members of this forum (for no apparent reason)

2. Chad and Cameroon deployed on Nigerian soil - so what? Its not a big deal to admit that, and it in no way diminishes your national pride.

My statments are based on a press release and well documented Chadian and Cameroonian deployments in Nigeria. They are certainly not lies. Please contain your emotional outbursts, we are trying to have a discussion here, not a dick measuring contest.


Ps; Finally found a pic of an ERC 90 in the NE

not an insult if it's true you know.


i knew you would bring up chad cameroon issue. is it not you?

i hope yo are enlightened enough to know about the MNJTF and it's AOR which includes boarder communities of the contributing states.

so yes. you lie when you ignore that fact just to back your falsehood.

i wonder how bringing up facts to prove your media lied is seen as an emotional outburst to you.

this is not an issue to be discussed. it'll be political suicide if any government permits it. don't give us a Nigerian view from a south african perspective

Patchesagain:
No one deployed because you never actually asked anyone.

.

so can you quote any government official that has formerly requested SANDF to deploy? not you media please.

just stop it patch...

Patchesagain:
Chad and Cameroon had small ops in our territory in border regions

The visit from that fat cu.nt Zuma is irrelevant (lile everything he does) it was Chokes part of the entourage that was important

SANDF deployed would mean you have everything to gain and nothing to lose

If they help you then you get the glory

If they fvck up then you get to blame them and distance yourself from the error

These things are political, and so you must view them from that context

i'm not surprised you would take the false report seriously. only a liar will be decieved by the same lies he spreads.

stop finding a reason for it to be true.

SANDF nor any foreign troops will never be allowed to fight on Nigerian soil.

SANDF can deploy along the borders to fight alongside the MNJTF.

our geopolitics is too complex for such to happen.

for example, during the Niger delta crisis (which the military could barely contain at first), Bush proposed to send US marines to help but Obasanjo bluntly refused.

with or without election, GEJ would have never allowed it and not to talk of a retired General.

stop lying, maybe you would be able to decode lies when you see it next time

gottfried21:
Let me just leave this here

this is the problem with the media. i guess SA media is not so different from ours after all.

i watched the chief of defense visit and nothing like deployment was mentioned. just collaborations.

Nigeria does not allow foreign boots on it's soil except for training and non combat reasons.

i sense the media trying to change the narrative. first it was america and now SA.

it's not funny at all

Dan-Ali said after his meeting with Ms Mapisa-Nqakula in Abuja that since the MoU on defence co-operation signed between the two countries in 2013.
“It is a very good thing that we are thinking that South Africa being our close ally should come and help us in developing our industrial complex, that is the Defence Industry Corporation of Nigeria.
“We are of the opinion that very soon, after the two Commanders-in-Chief meet, we will look into going deep on how the two countries will work together and come to an agreement on the MoU and technical expertise between the two countries,” he said.

Ms Mapisa-Nqakula noted that the cooperation between the two countries would lead to stronger ties.
She stated that the areas of collaboration would include the “transfer of skills, technologies, [and] processing development together between the two nations”.

A recent visit of the SANDF defence chief also did not mention any deployment to fight boko haram.

The Chief of South African National Defence Force, General Zakaria Shoke has re-affirmed his country’s willingness to work with Nigerian Armed Forces to the benefit of the two countries.
General Shoke made this known when he visited the Chief of Defence Staff, General Gabriel Olonisakin in his office in Abuja.
The Chief of South African National Defence Force promised to support Nigeria in its quest to end Boko Haram in the country. General Shoke further maintained his Armed Forces commitment to the development of the Nigerian military in the area of capacity building, exchange programme and logistics support, among others. He said Nigeria is very important to South Africa, hence the need to working together for the benefit of both countries, especially now when Nigeria is fighting Boko Haram.
While responding, the Chief of Defence Staff, General Olonisakin thanked the South African Chief of National Defence Force for the visit and solicited for more cooperation in defence related matters. This, he said would go a long way in strengthening the two countries bilateral cooperation.
General Olonisakin also requested for training of more Special Forces and other equipment that could be used in the operations against Boko Haram which has been substantially decimated and degraded. He said the war against terror is closing up and would soon end.
The occasion also witnessed briefing from the 3 Services of the Nigerian Armed Forces who stated the need for logistics and training support to further terminate the war against Boko Haram soon.

So I wonder where the SA media for their false news from.

and this was the main purpose of zuma's visit that the media claimed was to seal the deployment of your military

Buhari spoke while answering a question during a joint press conference he addressed alongside visiting South African President, Jacob Zuma, at the Presidential Villa, Abuja.
The President explained that because members of the Boko Haram sect were using unregistered SIM cards, MTN contributed to the casualties recorded by the sect because of its inaction.
He said, “The concern of the Federal Government was basically on the security and not the fine imposed on MTN.
“You know how the unregistered GSM (SIM cards) are being used by terrorists and between 2009 and today, at least 10,000 Nigerians were killed by Boko Haram, at least 10,000.
“That was why the NCC asked MTN, Glo and the rest of them to register GSM subscribers.
“Unfortunately, MTN was very very slow and contributed to the casualties. And NCC looked at its regulations and imposed the fine.”
He said that was why his government left the NCC and security agencies to handle the matter in their own way.
Buhari added that unfortunately for the telecommunication firm, rather than negotiating the fine or the mode of payment, it dragged the Federal Government to court.
He said the country’s constitution stipulates that no further action should be taken on any issue that is a subject of litigation.
Buhari said now that MTN had decided to withdraw the case from court, it is free to go back to the relevant government agencies to see if the fine can be reduced and paid in installments.

i'm not against collaborations between the two countries but we should learn to scrutinize the media and get our facts right.
last year it was ugandan forces deploying to nigeria[/

patches689:
So it looks like SANDF SF/SOF may be deploying to Nigeria.

Should be very interesting to see what happens.

yea. same way they deployed through your media last year.

you must have smoked something strong today

grip her by the throat very firmly and dash her against the wall or mirror. make sure it hurts her. den while choking her, remind her you are still the man in the relationship and if she wants violence you will not essitate to oblige her.

do this very briefly and let go. i swear bros she go comport.

she's clearly in the alfa postion and you either take it back by force or end the relationship

Henry240:
Nigerian Armed Forces Special Forces

hehehehehe.... sometimes i wonder if boko haram was a blessing in disguise.

if not for the innocent souls we have lost. i would have thought so

bloody cowards. these northern animals would never ever dare try such in any south south or eastern state.

na only yourba people dem gobdey take shine because na only mouth una get.

fight back first before calling for breakup. bloody cowards

Henry240:
We are on our way. Infact, we've come a very long way, and have attained a modern basic standard. I've been sharing photos online for the past 5 years, and i can say we've done very well.


Our Special Forces across the Navy, Air Force and Army are all top of the line.

the army special forces need to ditch that russian camo. there are too many different types.

stanndardization need to be top priority if we want to talk about getting there cos to tell uou the truth, i get irritated when i see our elite men from the army wearing different camos that don't even blend with the environment. it's not professional at all.

hopefully, our top brass have considered it.

Patchesagain:
Unfortunately these are normally the last units to be created during an insurgency and the first to be disbanded in peace

RSA used to have a motobike bn and a horse bn... now all we have left is a motobike company (i think) and i think the horses are gone too

i don't think the army will make that mistake.

the problem of terrorism in the north will continue to linger as long as the sahara remains a hotbed especially now that ISIS has a presence in the region and the north continues to have fanatics

Patchesagain:
Americans and Dutch have both sent troops to RSA for training by the SANDF

Also, anecdotal evidence that the Swiss sent some guys for HALO training

unfortunately, they have more money than you.

MikeCZAR:
They have more money than you.

you south africans hqve some serious psychological problem.
who's talking about having more money than NATO?

ssaengine:
[s]Um...like has been argued on this thread many many times by Henry, can there be an attempt to stick to posting pics with brief summaries. The article belongs in the other military forum, there a dozens of such articles there which i have read, enjoyed and moved on...no problem.[/s]

- No I'm not a keyboard soldier, I'm an engineer that works in SA's defence industry. And you are? Only professional soldiers can call the rest of us "keyboard soldiers". So please...you are?

-[s]Using your own point....all posts, arguments, opinions by everyone on this and other threads are therefore null and void, since the opinions of the actual militaries involved matter more than ours. So when are you planning on deregistering your account? Since clearly we're all wasting our time here. [/s]

Very long winded, and yes hypocritical (no pics, long) reply by me.

sure.. and i'm a spaceman currently walking on the moon for NASA... see how easy itvis to type that with my keyboard.

moral of the story... the topic was on point, your response was kinda stup1d and yeah... your opinion doesn't count for sh*t.

no vex @henry. won't respond to the keyboard soldier again

ssaengine:
I'm sorry but it's not as if Liberia's opinion on the quality of any defence force holds much water. Most militaries on earth are exceptional and outstanding in relation to theirs. Just saying such articles don't need to be posted on a pic thread.

why the thing come pain you, like sey you nearly nack your head for wall as you read the post. is the topic not military related?

the other thread has got you paranoid about anything Nigeria bro. check yourself

i bet if it was DRC commending sandf for their support, you wouldn't have written tgis stup1d post.

guess what... any countrry's opinion on the quality of a military it partners with matters more than the opinion of a keyboard soldier.

keep your agony to yourself

patches689:
Really?

Ok then!



Just like your army decided to "quit" allmost all of NE Nigeria (well 45 towns and cities at least) and hire mercenaries to win the war for them?

Just like when bullets start flying your men tend to "quit" the battle feild in women dresses and head for the Cameroonian border?

dude, grow up and learn to ignore some things

PapaBrowne:
The sad reality is that Nigeria is having an exact repeat of 1983- currency controls, a rapidly dwindling economy and a Buhari presidency.
History seems to be replaying itself in the exact same mode. If that means Buhari gets sacked after one and half year, then hmmmnm.....

I pray Nigerians don't curse the day they voted for this man.

too late bro. i already cursed the day i voted the dullard and curse the dullard join.

my business is suffering, clients are delaying payments due to lack of money etc...

i just wish 2019 will come on time so i can correct my mistake