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paxonel:
Yes, it is true that John believed whole heartedly, infact he we was the first man to believe and even draw his disciples to Christ.
But at some point when he was imprisoned, he lost he belief, he doubted whether this same Jesus Christ was the Messiah.

Matthew 11:2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
Matthew11:3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?

A man who is asking questions like that at this point shows that he has lost his belief or faith. .

When we want to confirm something we know is this not the question we ask?

TimiRume:
The Bible in Romans 8:17 has told us who the heirs of God are. Why would we be given that information if even angels are heirs of God? Are angels subjected to the suffering that ushers us into the glory of God? Or do you not know that there is a pathway to God's glory that has been appointed for man only.

Probably there is more about God that we are getting to know in these last days? Even Angels are not left out in looking into this side of God that has been enveloped in mystery before now.

Is it angels who lost God or man? In other words, is it not man who is trying to return to God like the prodigal son?

Who cares? The person is gone that's what matters.

Scientist are just lying playing up on the post tremors and movements which people can see. Even our phones and appliances have done this after they "died".

If they cannot see a person's thinking while he is alive is it now when he is dead?

Baldwretch:
Your objections has been seen and noted. To answer you...
Yes, we are all airing our opinion. Both of us might be wrong sef, but you must never doubt the rank of the angels as been higher than ours. Way higher. Way, way higher. It is a subject of sober reflection that the redeemed have to join the queue when they get to Heaven because we would have to prove our mettle in substantial ways and form. I will quote you now.

You are just misleading and destroying yourself in estimating thyself.

You err in coumting your chickens even before your eggs have been laid.

It is God Who judges these things and gives to each their own due, so you are not watching the Mark, and you are forgetting that even the righteous almost do not make it (1 Peter 4:18) yet here you are thinking of being the same with angels who are already with God,

Distraction is one of the weapons of Satan. I think its time i.make the thread.

paxonel:
what Jesus meant by the least person in God's kingdom is greater than John the Baptist is that, the least person who is a believer is greater than John the Baptist who didn't believe until he was eventually killed.

It was never a thing of angels comparing with man.
The kingdom of heaven is within us, that is what you have not understood

Where did you get that john was not a believer when you already see him beliving and looking out for He who was promised to come, up.to the point of seeking confirmation from Jesus ?

TimiRume:
But through Christ Jesus, we are now made Sons of God. Is there any status higher than a Son's apart from the Father? We are children of God and hence heirs, heirs of God. Romans 8:17 God is our heritage. We are now in the process of inheriting God until our final redemption. Angels are not Sons of God. Angels can't inherit God. So how are they higher than us?

Are they not already with God? So which God are they going to inherit again?

Righthussle:
Africans have a vey looooong way to go.

Say people going to the eternal flames!

Baldwretch:
So I was just thinking about divine government yesterday and I know that many Christians would disagree with me.

Don't just read and pass, let me read your disagreement perhaps I might have a change of thoughts towards this.

This line of thought is borne out of a saying of Jesus and an experience I have had in a workplace I am hustling to get by....

You have already mixed up everything.

First of,.Christ made that statement in Mathew 11:11 because of people like you.

Secondly, when God judges, is it not man with man? How then do you judge man with angels?

Thirdly, no man is going to heaven, it is heaven and earth 2.0 those qualified are going to.

MaxInDHouse:
The flood wasn't because of corruption rather it's because of the giants descendants of demons who are turning the planet into a place where violence is the order of the day.)

Men, see how you and satan are the same? So God was lying in Gen 6:5, ehn? Or when Cain and his grandchildren murdered and committed polygamy, it was the giants that turned them?

Whatever God uses to punish and destroy Satan so shall it be unto you and the op!

EnemyofGod3:
And the funny part of it is,all the angels were happy throw party.

And if I may ask.

What if another set of angels developed some bad habit and try to overthrow God, then the fight ensure between then and they eventually overpowered God and his angels ?

Who no go happy when dem troway bandit and kidnapper komot for d land?

If another bandit start no be the same thing go happen to dem?

That is why when devils like you die people like me are gonna sing and dance for joy!

GanagiBitrus:
What do you expect when Satan was kicked out of heaven to Earth to come and cause havoc here.

Get sense!

Your papa troway komot for house for Garki e mean say you no fit go Maitama or Wuse?

111GlassCup:
"We were told" is the problem. I think the Quran and the Bible are the major sources of evil and problems in the world.
Humans are truely tabularasa. You can decide to write anything on them, just like a program and they will run on your command. It's crazy


Things we are told or written down in certain books, which obviously are lies are being passed on as a true story and men keep killing each other over it.

So this murder was done by religion?

https://www.nairaland.com/8131784/nigerian-boxer-isaiah-olugbemi-dies#130592184

Or this one
https://www.nairaland.com/8137949/efcc-officials-invade-hotel-lagos

Or this evil tax is caused by religion

https://www.nairaland.com/8136039/13-killed-parliament-set-ablaze

Have some sense!

EnemyofGod3:
We were told that the first time he made the earth, he saw that it was good but it was eventually corrupted. Then he flooded the earth to get rid of the corruption but look at where we are today. Corrupted again, even worse. What's the guarantee that the so-called heaven will not be eventually corrupted?

Why are you complaining? Is your house?Owner of house no get right to tear down Hin house again?

Aftet all, you go dey fire like bole.

LordReed:
LoLz. Understand simple English, you no understand. Show evidence of attack, you no fit. Na the definition of useless you be. Bwahahahahaha.

Lol. Understand simple English, you no understand. Efribody no attack, wen we dey see am you no get wetin to say dat na why you just dey talk end none talk. Leave mstta for martha. Nywahahahahaha

derico:
What is witchcraft in it?
The man exercised his Islamic right to marry multiple, and she exercised her fundamental right to worship- and went the traditional way.


It's just unfortunate that people who practice African traditional religion still do it in secrecy.
If you're trying out traditional worship, do it with pride...as long as you ño go keeee person.

My former landlord had bantè on the wall of the entrance of his flat.
Confirm Muslim Alhaji, yet he doesn't hide the traditional practice.

See, this case shows that
1) Rights do not come from religion and

2) if traditional worship was good, it would be done openly and it is known all over the world thst your so called "traditional worship" can kee person.

3) your former openly shows the world that he is both a muslim and a traditional worshipper so that clearly warns everyone what good/evil to expect from him, so also should traditional worshippers show in advance that they are witches and juju people make problem no dey.

See another example of all the sins and evils a person commits on his way to polygamy

https://www.nairaland.com/8139061/popular-nairalander-sir-jarus-admits#130701337

LordReed:
LoLz. Na to show say you useless na. Bwahahahahaha!

See Lie, Na you don show say you be useless itself as you no get anytin to talk since, so you don dey do your normal lie lie and twist twist. Nyahahahahahahaha!

Watianoengineer:
I used this chew gum to marry my 3rd wife in 98. How time flies

Liessss!

We4all:
Abegi...He was all about the money and gifts he showered on her. So, is he saying that if a man gives a woman money regularly, she becomes his slave and he has the right to treat her however he pleases? By the way, if he is popular, how come I don't know him?

He did not say that.

Rather, he tried buying his way and the wife did not yeild to the point she resorted to witchcraft which caused him to act violently.

See all the hell and punishments that polyhamist go through

https://www.nairaland.com/8139061/popular-nairalander-sir-jarus-admits#130701337

Born2winnx:
I have fed people like you here on nairaland over the years... ask around.

Don't mind them.

Yet they wonder why wickedness and evil is on the increase.

Finally all the curses that the white people had has fully circulated and destroyed our African life.

Next one is uncaring children and elderly home and people neighbours cutlassing neighbours over parking space.

Natbrowny:
But passing an exam does not denote intelligence. It simply denotes “passing an exam”.

In summary THE ABOVE is what the Nigerian Education System is all about. Simple and short.

J[b]ust pass and get claps and accolades. If u r intelligent and smart out of books and outta 8 courses. U pass 7, U will still be abused, insulted and embarrassed.[/b]

We are timid, truth of life. Na street life make some of us beat that allegation.

The best student in Nigerian schools ends up been a lecturer who cannot pass the knowledge he owns to other people. No innovation, no money. He becomes a lecturers without changing or creating one single thing with his knowledge throughout his stay as a lecturer. He retires and stays at home. Others becomes politicians

If one is insalted for this, you can now see what a person who did not go school gets for not going.

isrealoski:
The school culture in Nigeria is off

The term “university” was gotten from the term “universal” and was created so that people can understand the world around them and have atleast common sense. But for a lot of Nigerians, common sense is not common. It’s just about getting rich though education.

This was how education was sold to us. Bet you do not know that there was no way they could sell education here which was why they had to create all the bad bad things we have now which is the riches and class thing and i better pass you thing.

Which was why they over rewarded the first educated natives with annoying riches and excessive wicked power and advantage where before all of us were fine and equal in nature.

But having made our brother over better and greater than us, and even teaching him to oppress us, origin of segregation, class and v.i.p thing, all because he went to that place called school, it was only logical for people to go there to stop the oppression and the wicked separation.

LordReed:
You no get wetin you wan talk before. LoLz.

Na you no get anytin to talk na why you kon dey ask useless questions.

LordReed:
State how I "attacked" him.

We know an attack when see one!

LordReed:
It's like English is hard for you to understand early in the morning. I stated quite clearly that his conclusion is based solely on intuition and can also support a different conclusion. If this isn't clear enough for you then I can't help you.

And i am stating quite very clearly that you never addresssed whatever you call "his conclusion" rather you attacked him where he was answering someone else's question and then sneakily dropped a conclusive declarative argument as if you had made an argument before.

And you get it, so leave mata for martins!

Steep:
It is a contradiction to say a born again believer may end up in hell.

Correct!

Steep:
Don't just type with emotions you have to provide proof from scriptures
Jesus said he will never lose his sheep, his sheep hear his voice and Will not follow another,

Clearly, the 11 disciples were His sheep and none of them did any fornication or adultery or any sin after they had become The Lord's sheep.

Unlike those who claim "born again" yet they are fornicators, adulterers, liars, wicked and evil like the op himself has shown!

Righthussle:
While Young Americans and Europeans are busy inventing life changing inventions, discussing human cloning and head transplant Africans are still discussing helll and heaven that doesn't even exist.
f

And here you are adding to the discussion about the heaven and hell which you say does not exist and they should no talk about. What a joker

LordReed:
As usual flat out nonsense. He made a conclusive statement which is predicated on his intuition which in turn can lead to a different conclusion. There is no demand for him to be omniscient since we are limited by his own intuition so you just spewed nonsense for nothing.

You are talking rubbish!

Did you address what you call a conclusive statement"? No.

You only attacked him where he answered someone else's question and inside that attack you dropped your conclusion as if you jad made a case whereas, you did nothing but attack a person who answered a question.

And who does not know that man speaks from his limits and himitations, hence he would always speak from that place whether you call it intuition or something else?

Atheist, you have nothing valid to say!

MaxInDHouse:
That's the name the true God called his faithful worshipers in the endtime:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Proverbs 18:13

You just jumped at the post without reading with insight.
I am not a BORN AGAIN i'm just talking about them and their attitude in our midst!

See, proof you are a devil, for devil is a Liar and a blasphemer of God and perverter but here you are Lying against God and using God to Lie (blasphemy) for Isaiah 65:15 DID NOT SAY "JEHOVAH'S WITNESS'

Complete proof that you people are devils and children of Satan!

Ken4Christ:
Tell me how many people who have asked for urgent fund on nairaland that you have helped with proof.

See, more proof you are a devil as i have always told you, for if you were truly a christian, you would have known proverbs 27:2