lululovesblue:
I won't lie, it seems to me like this is a strawman argument. As in, you're grasping at straws. They were still at the dating stage? So did they do white wedding at any point in their lives before death? God himself had recognized their union, giving Eve to Adam as a companion. So they were still dating?

You said they were in the dating stage when Satan got them to fall. But in Genesis 3:6 it says "And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat"

Adam is referred to as her husband in this verse by most versions of the Bible. So what exactly are you talking about?

Oga, if you want to sleep around before marriage, do so. It's your body after all. But don't use the Bible as justification.

You are the one committing the fallacy of reversing the burden of proof.

The bible shows they were put together like boyfriend/gitlfriend are first put together.

But every boyfriend and girlfriend still need to go through the process of marriage, which nature has shown us that the coming together.of the boyfriend and girlfriend must be publicly celebrated by the families of the couple for it to be valid (lex celebrationis) just like Wofai fadas's marriage issue https://www.nairaland.com/8082484/wofai-fadas-in-laws-reject-marriage#129791915

And we can all see the bible shows that Adam's union was not celebrated, which you see male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

So you people already fornicate before marriage, so just know that you are guilty of it already like Adam.

Tallesty1:
What actually marries a man to a woman is their vows, not just parental consent. The moment a man asks a woman to marry him in good faith and she agrees in good faith, they are as good as married, but I think that is beyond the scope of your question.

Since you talked about consent, let me ask you: which consent is better than God's consent? Adam and Eve didn't have parents. God saw what Adam needed and gave him one, so what else do you want? A wedding with God as the officiating priest and animals as guests?

Also, things change. There was just one law in the garden and there is no sin without law. You do know that marrying one's sibling was okay and legal until the law against it came much later? Adam's children married each other, etc.

Wrong!

What marries man to a woman is Authourity and Law.

If God, our Authority had prohibited marriages, then marriages would be a sin.

But because God permitted it, He also set down the steps which.a couple must comply with to have a valid marriage as shown by Nature.

Which we know starts with Young adult male and female meet, and court each other privately, then publicly, then they report themselves and their relationship.to their respective families (consent of their Authorities) who after due and proper scrutiny, give their consent to the couple and then thereafter publiclly show to the whole world that they approve the Union (marriage) of their children formerly under their care by publicly celebrating the marriage. Hence the history of traditional and customary marriages.

And all over the workd, its the same procedure.

As you see in the new world to come, marriages are prohibited/deactivated by The Authority, God!

Goodlyhrt:
Then you have confirmed it that not being a sin till when they don't marry. Or caught.

Not a sin against God but to humans, to be punished by selfsame humans not God.

Was fornication expressly written in the tablets as a sin?

What mad twisting is this when i clearly showed that God punished them by making them marry so that they suffer a second time by having a bad marriage?

blazingyou:


I don't know you but I will tell you one thing....

Pray for the spirit of love in your family... Tell God you want Him to come in and dwell in your family...

God is love and that's why He sent His only son Jesus so, that we can be able to give out love through the power of the holy spirit...

If there's love among yourselves, there will be care, understanding and support...
That's what family is all about.

There is love amongst themselves, its just me they kick out.

papikushz:
Growing up as the last my siblings always don't wanna hang with me, the would rather be with their friends and tell me to get lost. I am grown now they wanna talk with me but I don't even know how to act around them or even know what to talk about while with them. It's like we are trying to force it but nothing most times I spend and express myself amongst outsiders than to then.
I learned to do things on my own, I only seek help when it's so bad, I don't even know how to ask them for help when I need, I just keep going till am stuck (being too judgy is part of why I just keep to myself and bear my cross and while at it I blame no one but sometimes it gets so heavy.
I just want to unwind here.
At some point I felt so isolated

ItBomb has spoken my mind. Turn that isolation to your profit and leave those people in their places.

Relate with them only if you have to and die alone if you have to. That is how the world has become.

blazingyou:
Uhmm

Mine is 9 years difference... It is bad

If I discuss serious matter with him, he won't even encourage me, nothing

Very annoying...

I don't even say anything anymore.... I've gone COLD
He face his family and I face my single life

My advice to you is that ... You shouldn't have any bad blood ... Family is always family and siblings are always going to be part of you for life...
They'll always come through for you only when you're at your lowest...

My brother can not leave me to die but that's only when he see that I'm dying. LOL

So OP, whenever you need help let them know, they will always come through big time

Abegi; I sell fabulous Ankara fabric

You are lucky.

Mine are praying and wishing.that i die.

But God disappoints them and through God, i love living to disappoint and annoy them.

Re: Chukwuemeka Okonkwo: 8-Year-Old Anambra Pupil Beaten To Coma By Teacher Dies

This wanted to kill him and now she has done it for the little boy finally died!

She wanted to kill him and now she has done it!

okoroemeka:
correct me if I am wrong,when the offsprings of Adam and eve we know as Cain and Abel,Cain went off to another land and took a wife,who created those people?who are Cain's inlaws? Can they be black men created by a black God?

Off point!

Plus, Adam and Eve had both boys and girls.

Goodlyhrt:
Fornication is not a sin of course but breaking a vow 'see adultery' is sin..

God is not interested in your sins anyway not like it will stop him from being God, no! But he listens to the cry of the downtrodden and visits parents sin even unto the 10th generation.

Summary is to not break any vow to him or to any human. That is the only sin.

Sin include:
*Not acknowledge God
*Idolatry
*Disobedience to God's command or parent's wise counsel
*Adultery
*Lieing/false witness
*Stealing
*Murder
*Pride
*Greediness/covetousness
*Glutton
*Drunkenness/abuse of everything
*Not keeping to convenant/cheating
*Dehumanizing your fellow man; because that man will cry unto God and his wrath will fall upon you

Not a sin but erroneously perceived:
*Fornication
*Gambling/lot
*Masturbation
*Laziness
*False pretence for a good course 'see story of Abraham and king Abimelech over Sarah Abraham's wife'
*Drinking alcohol
*Eating all types of animals/food

The sins I mentioned will make you a direct enemy of God.

While the other, though not much offence to God but might be an offence onto YOURSELF so you better be careful and understand that moderation is key in life.

I rise!

Rubbish!

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 shows that it is a sin for when a couple fornicated they must marry themselves else they be killed or turn vagabonds/fugitives by running away.;history of eloping and prostitution and new towns and communities

And this is the beginning and history of bad marriage for God punishes them by making their marrage very painfull and bitter as we all see people have today since most like you fornicated even thouaands of times before they married.

MythAngel:


Your Answer:
Genesis 2: 22-24.
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his Wife: and they shall be one flesh.

I am sure sir. That this answered your question.
Adam and Even became married from the moment God brought the woman to meet the man.

Thank you.

You must first meet your partner to be husband and wife and that is the period we call boyfriend/girlfriend aka dating stage.

And when the couple are dating, they do not have the right to.have sex or to partake in their partner's family functions etc.
It is after their Union is celebrated by their parents that they then have that right to have sex including all the other rights they previously did not have.

So, technically, marriage starts from "brought" together, but sex and other rights of marriage are only activated after the families have celebrated the couples joining and brought.togetherness.

Which is why another element of a valid marriage in Law is "[b]lex celebrationis"

And no lex celebrationis occurred between male and female Adam.

World over, Is dating not when a boy and giirl are dedicated anf committed to each other with an aim of being seen and taken as husband and wife?

All over the world, are the parents not already aware that their children have connected to each other and are in that period of time which comes before marriage which we now call "dating"?

You have seen all of these things and no where do you see in the bible where you see God had a party or something celebrating their union declaring them husband and wife.

And even male Adam shows that fact which is why he said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me as duly and validly married people will say.

Siberia01:
the same beetle wey dey struggle to do 120

That is why i said new beatle. Na old old one we dey normally see. And even Vollkswagen for lagos no be dey make beatle, so understandably new beatle bin dey scarce but i was just blessed to have seen and exlerienced one.

And then thieves stole the car and it was only 1 month old.

immortalcrown:
Any proof to back up your claim?

I have given them to you already.

I told you even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

And no where did you not see where God declared them husband and wife a nor did a marriage ceremony and celebration take place as we have seen parents do before and during their children's marriage

Testiebobo:
Is sex before marriage a sin?
Because Adam and Eve didnt marry and they had sexual intercourse with each other. And God didnt forsake them because of that. So what is really the superstitic idealogy of sex before marriage as a sin? Do you think it is actually a sin?
Marriage experts and geniuses

He did! Did you not see He banished them and cursed them like our parents wiill do in the days of old when they find that we had breached their trust and had had sex with each other?

Siberia01:
Gap 504? beetle?
Be like you no Sabi wetin be 504

If you see new beatle run, you go appreciate why i talk so.

504 power na from 0 to 120. After dat na struggle and hala edey do

immortalcrown:
Adam and Eve didn't marry?

Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

Yes! They were not married.

They were still at the dating stage when satan got them to fall.

And as you see, you do not see any place where God declared them husband and wife nor do you see any marriage ceremony and celebration take place.

Which is why even male Adam said "it is the woman you gave me" and not it is the wife you gave me or it is my wife whom you gave me.

Parental consent is a very important ingredient of having a valid marriage and a public show by the parents is also integral to it. That is why all over the world traditional amd customary marriages are valid.

F117nighthawk:
Santana made Lagos to Benin in 2.5hrs
505 3 hrs
504 3 and half to 4 hrs

Oh you too have seen a Santana run? Loved the car too.

Methinks Its santana and passat that saved Volkswagen from being dead in Nigeria because of its beatle which ofcourse is because most beatles we saw then were very old and beaten and all... Till my neighbour bought a new beatle and i saw, that car is fast and i think it would gap uncle 504!, in that state.

When will men have sense?

See as fools,don open dia mouth whuaa! Yet na dem go still kon ask how dis girl take know me!

tunene66:
There are a couple of differences between Jesus’s quotation of Isaiah 61:1 in Luke 4:18 and the normal translation of Isaiah 61 based on the Hebrew Bible. For one, Jesus omits “He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted” (something present in the Greek text as well). He also prefers the Septuagint (Greek Old Testament, LXX) to the Masoretic text (Hebrew manuscript) when He cites “recovery of sight to the blind.” There is still one more change, one we will notice tomorrow. See if you can find it in Luke 4:18!

As usual, we’ll take a look at the words used in the Greek and Hebrew and see how the word “blind” is used throughout Luke’s gospel account.

[By the way, here is Isaiah 61:1 in the LXX for you so that you can compare it to your Old Testament and Jesus’s citation of it: “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, on account of which he has anointed me; he has sent me to bring good news to the poor, to heal those who are crushed in heart, to announce release to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind…” (Isaiah 61:1).]

BLIND, FREEDOM, RECOVERY
So, the big question is why did the translators of the LXX and Jesus talk about the blind receiving their sight when the Hebrew is focused on freedom for the prisoners? Well, I don’t know the answer to that question, but I have a guess. It has to do with the word “freedom.”

While this is the only occurrence of this Hebrew word in the Hebrew Bible, the root of the word is found thirty-seven times. Besides a couple of names, this root word is used to talk about people’s eyes and ears being opened, except, of course, in Isaiah 61:1 where it is translated “freedom.” The Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew lexicon suggests that this term is used in Isaiah 61:1 to talk about prisoners being released from a dark prison.

I think that when we look at how Jesus used the term “blind” in Luke, this change will make sense.

The word translated blind is found seven times in the gospel account. In six of those times, the text is referring to physically blind people. In one, however, found in Luke 6, a passage we have gone to several times for assistance in understanding Luke 4:18, Jesus said, “A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Will they not both fall into a pit?” (Luke 6:39).

Like in the previous articles, there are two things at play here: the miracles Jesus performed pointed to greater spiritual realities. Jesus healed those who were blind, but He also helped to open people’s eyes to what the kingdom of God really is.

https://danielr.net/recovery-of-sight-to-the-blind-pt-4/

Is there any gain in responding to this mad muslim?

Do you not see that he does not really care about any explaination but just wants to attack the bible by raising non issues so as to make it look like the bible is flawed like their evil rubbish koran?

FatherCHRISTMAS:
I have always wondered what gives the Expatriate confidence to maltreat people in their host country.
They don't act like this in other countries.

I saw one arguing with a mobile police officer a month ago. What gives them this sort of confidence

You dont know that colonialiasm is still going on?

jaephoenix:

Lol. U r really a work of art. Anyway I have told you to seek psychiatric review. It would help you

See, you have no evidence!

jaephoenix:

There are evidence that can give insight into dino daily lives, including preserved gut contents, eggs, nests, footprints, skin impressions and even dinosaur poo. We can even view their fossils all over the world. I have attached their pictures. Unless of course you think we conjured those bones, footprints etc from thin air.
Like I have told you repeatedly, DTruthSpeaker, stay away from scientific discourses. Your brain is way too basic and retarded to engage in it

All movies and fabrications! No evidence.

jaephoenix:

<yawn>
Your scare antics get boring everyday. Try another thing… like engaging the topic at hand

Who is scaring you, when clearly you have more than enough of it? You are not worth it.

hopefulLandlord:

The sales pitch for heaven is that there is only happiness and no sorrow. But it also says that many people's loved ones won't be there. Since they can't feel sorrow about that, are they ecstatic that their loved ones are being tortured forever? Either your memories are removed or your human empathy is removed. Is it really you that is left over once some parts of you have been removed?

Stupid talk!

No matter how much love you share with your loved ones, you won't go to prison for them or carry their cancer for them.

And shit, its the same loved ones who asked you for money, any amount even if N10k for necessities who you still gave storiies and gave them nothing only to give your personal prostitute N300k to go the spa.

Solofresh2:
A lot of people don't know that we are God ourselves. God lives in us

Which does not matter as The Superest God has decided what shall happen to ye gods!

Negroid001:
heaven doesn't exist.

A criminials delusion!

DaddyCoool:


Ridiculous guy. Just learn your lesson and move on

Says the guy allergic to learning

Chrisrare:
Tomorrow you will tell us your target is no longer to know God but xyz. The Christian delusion.

Tomorrow you will wail in hell forever. So you are just jealous that your life has no purpose or meaning or goal. The atheists torment.

sprints1:
My question is why would any sane being want to live forever... As a seasoned biologist I don't even care about heaven... After spending years on earth I will die and want to go and live somewhere else without the body... Where I wouldn't enjoy food or fun... All we will be doing according to the scripture is singing praise and worship.... Please let me enjoy my time on earth and die a peaceful death so that my progeny will learn and enjoy life.. Heaven and hell I don't want the two... Let me die and die no coming back or going elsewhere

Like your phone saying let me die in peace. You are going to hell.

And ditto, the bible said those qualified are going to a new heaven and earth, so, there'll be food and dancing and playing and all the things living beings can do. But you will be burning in hell, so enjoy your earth.

Jokerman:


He's the only way.

God's wrath is on every sinner especially when such leaves this world and puts on the immortal body... You need Jesus to escape.

It's not a joke

I think you people who do this are exactly the same a s him and you will both end up in the fire.