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cornelboy:
God and god is the same word. Upper or lower case doesn't change the meaning

And that is why you are a devil and a Satanist for only Satanist do not have regard and reverence for God for even the same Hebrews you claim separated the identification of The Almighty God from the rest of the fake and lesser things called gods which is why even you like the rest of the world where able to identify that Psalm 82:6 is talking about humans which your 1 Corinthians 8:5,6 is still saying.

So, you are just proving that Jws are Liars and Satanists.

bingbagbo:
There are many errors in your rebuttals, my post addresses them. But the moment I read the bolded, I knew you do not know what you are saying. Kindly check the following as to whether or the Sabbath was a shadow:

Colossians 2:16-17
[16]So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon [b
or sabbaths,
[17] which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

Further:



Do you now see it.

This says "Things to come" which means it is talking about the future future wherein all will be well and nothing like judgement would be there.

And not talking about the present future where Judgement is and Judgement acomming.

Christ Is The End of The Law (Romans 10:4)

Also "end of The Law" is Law term which you know that Paul is a Lawyer, so he means "the destination of The Law" and not the termination or extinction of the Law as you are wrongfully thinking and wishing.

Which is why I asked you "how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law?

bingbagbo:
I come in peace my brother. My post addresses your queries please. Thank you.

No it does not.

You are outrightly lying against The LORD because of you are in great error.

First, I can immediately see that you truly agreed with the Pharisees who called walking and plucking fruits to eat as work.

For if you truly appreciate that no reasonable person can call that work, then I believe that your opinion would have been different.

Secondly, again you make the mistake of saying that "the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets"

So how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law?

Address this, if you can.

Truthseeker10:
So according to you, Jesus is Worshiped but he is not the Almighty God?


Below is Matthew 4:10 and John 4:23. Who did Jesus say is the Only person that we should worship and serve? Himself or the Father?

King James Bible
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

King James Bible
But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

And who is The LORD our God? It is still the same Jesus Christ!

Acts 2:36
Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ—this Jesus whom you crucified.

1 Corinthians 12:3
..And that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

cornelboy:
The point is that God and god are the same word same meaning.
Maybe 1 cor 8:5,6 will bring sense to you.

And that is the Lie you lie, for I have shown you that even the Hebrews separated the identification of The Almighty God from the rest of the fake and lesser things called gods which is why even you like the rest of the world where able to identify that Psalm 82:6 is talking about humans which your 1 Corinthians 8:5,6 is still saying.

So, as already pointed out, you are Lying and have been Lying since

cornelboy:
There are many gods in heaven and earth, but for Christians, we only take Jehovah as the one God.

That is you and your group choosing what you want and not facing what is plain for everyone to see.

But this is a deviation so can it.

cornelboy:
Now ask yourself, when God called humans (Psalm 82:6), did he use god or God?
There's no difference between them ser

The bible already shows that He used "gods" for every other fake and lesser and powerless things, so this question is stupid and very unnecessary to ask.

bingbagbo:
Intriguing question.

The Sabbath was one of 10 commandments The Lord gave the Israelites through Moses (Exodus 20).

The Sabbath denoted rest from work on the seventh day; many believe the seventh day is Saturday (I am not contesting this belief).

Even under the dispensation of The Law (Moses), the Priests were exempted from the Sabbath (Matthew 12:5).

Moreover, the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets, he is under the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). The law and the prophets was until John The Baptist (Matthew 11:13).

Now, if even priests under the old covenants profaned the Sabbath and yet were blameless according to Matthew (12:5) how much more blameless is the born-again in regard to the Sabbath, he being a priest and a king in Christ (Revelations 1:6; Revelations 5:10).

The Sabbath was a typology of rest in Christ; to the born-again everyday is a Sabbath - rest in Christ. The born again is free to work and do all things all day including the seventh day provided these activities/works are not sinful.

The Lord Jesus himself who is our Standard and Lord of the Sabbath worked on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-15).

The Sabbath was a shadow of the real substance which is Christ Jesus (Colossians 2:17) - Now we have Christ Jesus (the substance and reality), why do you want to hold on to a shadow?

Why do you keep gazing at the photo of your spouse when your spouse is right with you?

Do you engage in any activity/work at all on Saturdays as a sabbatarian ?

Matthew 12:11
Then He (Jesus) said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?

I come in peace

I will bite you oo. Why are you Lying against The LORD?

Since when did talking a walk and plucking fruits to eat constitute working?

And did you not read that Cbrist, The LORD Said "if you love me keep my commandments"?

And go and look how many times God Said keep my Sabbaths?

Even in the new testament the disciples still obeyed it. Luke 23:56

"Especially that her shout of "I have gotten a man", leading to question wetin she bin get before?

And the answer is na woman she bin born before.

Which is why people react when women birth only girls for it is a clear sign of what transpired between her and Satan in the garden in Genesis, for the seed that was in her belly whom God Cursed was a woman.

And that is why women desperately panick when they birth only girls for they know that men do not know the Truth that indeed Satan fornicated/with Female Adam and since she was betrothed to Male Adam, therefore she was technically married, therefore she and Satan are both guilty of adultery also.

Meanwhile, since after her fornication/adultery with Satan, she then went and have her husband, therefore, male Adam's sin was only fornication aka sex before formal marriage.

While female Adam is guilty of both Fornication and Adultery

Hence, God looks at both of them as the same since both of them were committed at the same time, the very First Time, they were committed.

Therefore, since adultery is even worser than the 2 of them, it is sufficient that God only mentioned adultery in the Commandments knowing that any discerning and wise person would find out that those Laws also condemned fornication.

Because of my response to Delkuf's inquisition in the thread

https://www.nairaland.com/8363307/men-belong-god-women-belong#134459321

I have come to appreciate that God did not directly speak about Fornication because in His view it is the same as adultery.

Brenbentondiaz:
I thought this section was for religious discourse. Pls check comedy section that way 👉.

Is the talk on God and Satan not a religious discuss?

Just say that you are not ready to look at the Truths you already see and know especially because you love women and sex 3much.

doggedfighter:
Op, go and look for food and eat.

Na person wey don and bellyfull na im dey get time dey do investigation and think think.

Just talk say you no get wetin you fit talk as you dey fear say men don dey see and know all the things wey una don know since.

delkuf:
This your logic na only God know as you get am oooooo

Actually, I have noticed that when God acts, He always has a reason.

And so, I have been pondering for years why He chose first males and why He deliberately Speaks to men and while He has a soft spot for men.

And living already shows that men are kinder and gooder than women. Even women choose to be with and deal with men rather than with women.

And it is now known that women are eviler than men as proven by the statement "women and Satan are 5 and 6"

So, it began to be understandable why God deals favourably with men whereas women are bound with many many Curses, which is why you see they desperately need to have a man.

So, when I put all these together and began to trace the origin, it hit me to re examine Genesis 1.

And I can clearly see that Adam male never heeded not bent to Satan at all and therefore he never did Satan's will at the beginning.

Unlike Adam female.

And I see that he only fell because he loved his wife and he got tired of telling her "no, God Said we should not do it'.

But she would man pullingnatively say now that she has become evil "what about me who ate it? So you want me to die, ehn,?" And we know that she would make living very unpleasant for him until he obeyed her desire.

So I see that this resistance and non fall for Satan counted for male Adam and therefore saved all males.

Hence God's First Male had been protected and preserved. Which is why God later takes all first males. (Which I was pondering about)

And so, seeing how greatly evil women are and can be and the ease with which they do evil, I got to see that this shows that women belong to Satan and that Satan has claimed them.

Especially that her shout of "I have gotten a man", leading to question wetin she bin get before?

And the answer is na woman she bin born before.

Which is why people react when women birth only girls for it is a clear sign of what transpired between her and Satan in the garden in Genesis, for the seed that was in her belly whom God Cursed was a woman.

And that is why women desperately panick when they birth only girls for they know that men do not know the Truth that indeed Satan fornicated/with Female Adam and since she was betrothed to Male Adam, therefore she was technically married, therefore she and Satan are both guilty of adultery also.

Meanwhile, since after her fornication/adultery with Satan, she then went and have her husband, therefore, male Adam's sin was only fornication aka sex before formal marriage.

And that is why he was not as heavily punished as the woman whose case was even adjourned sine die

Go and check it, God never concluded her case like Kanu's case is still going on.

So this is how I arrived at this conclusion.

GothamCities:
The cultists will turn a blind eye to that verse. I've posed it to the several time. They never responded but continued in their satanism.

Clear proof that they are Liars and Satanists

HeatSeeker:
Have you considered the possibility that the JWs you have met offline might not be well versed in the JW teachings? Not all church goers can boldly speak or answer questions on the statement of faith adopted by their denomination.

It's like an open secret among Christians that a fairly large portion of any denomination are at best nominal.

Like I said earlier, consider calming down

We know intelligent people when we interact with them and when you ask or argue with them about subjects which are not about these their dem say beliefs, you will see them answer you

But once you hit this dem say beliefs or you even go near it, the same person who has been talking since now flees, for he knows he has to Lie big time here (for even in the other safe arguments they did it. But usually those arguments are not serious for anyone to reasonably convict them of Lying)

But on this big and serious topics, they run because they know that if they Lie, we would call the public to come and hear the matter and the whole world would hear how JW Lied

And the world would see that all their appearance of righteousness is Fake.

And then people would remember that they already see that these jws are exactly feeling like all the other cults they have identified and treat like they are Satanists.

So, understandably jw would want to protect and block people from seeing that they are Satanists so that people would continue thinking that based on what they have also seen already, which they have taught their members to play up, that they are Christians and even better righteous people than regular church goers who people call Christians.

Instead of the Satanist and Antichrists they Truly are.

So, the cult would not want their Deceptions bursted, so off line if you asked them about this dem say beliefs, they will run. And if one of them wanted to even address it, the others will stop him and drag him to run with them.

Knowing that as long as we do not have their word on this dem says, people would never know the Truth that they are actually representing Satan and that their already eerie looking and creepy feeling society is truly the same as the other eerie looking and creepy feeling cults we have already identified.

So, these exposẹ́ and their confessions and their engagement is very full filling and needfull. And from now on people now see and understand and know who Jws are.

And that they are truly Satanist as people have been suspecting and saying.

cornelboy:
So what's the word for God and god in Hebrew
I really wanna know how God and god means different things

Psalm 82:6
“I said, ‘You are “gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.’

God and god both have same root word "elohim".

In a nutshell, god, God, and GOD doesn't mean different thing.

The word God is more like a common noun and not a particular name for anybody.

Hope you're learning

Repeating yourself just proves that you are trying to find how you can bend the argument into another argument as you have been doing since.

I have already said the Hebrew language like every other language in the world has a different name identifying and distinguishing God The Supreme and All Mighty from every other lesser things that they know, which is what the Bible replicated by giving capital "G" to the All Mighty God and His Son and all other fake and powerless gods, small "g".

And everyone in the world understood that, and that is why there is no issue on this issue of the Hebrew root word of “God" being translated as “God, “god,” or “gods” in English.

You, like the whole world understood that God, The Supreme and All Mighty is distinguished with the capital G as God while humans and other lessers are called "gods" with a small g in the bible eg Psalm 82:6 which you evilly altered and deceivingly changed to "Gods" so as to defend your Lies (knowing that it is evil and fraud to alter documents during an inquiry).

And now you have quoted the the verse showing small g for gods which everyone in the world knew it says as I said for it is talking about humans as you yourself concluded.

Thus,yet again, this is you, yet again trying to hide the Lies you tell with another half truths Lie of Hebrew root word of “God" is translated as “God, “god,” or “gods” in English.

It does not work!!

All these Lies and frauds and deceptions just prove beyond reasonable doubt that that you JWs are all Satanists and Antichrists.

gohf:
Here is your "dtruth" the one you agree with and follow. He doesn't even know the spirit using him

Do you never learn that it is foolish to speak when you do not have any thing to say?

So as I said we all see, it was the woman who fell for Satan first.

While the man fell for woman and not for Satan.

Which clearly means that since the Adam man did not fall for Satan, then man is still God's child, even though he is now a corrupted one.

But, in less, he is still God's child and property.

Unlike Adam woman who fell yakata for Satan, so she became owned by him.

And that is why we see Satan easily use woman again and again to spoil God's Plans eg Eve, Sarah, Lot's daughters, Job's wife etc.

Hence why we see that God is still very much interested in men and why He claimed all the first males technically meaning, He has claimed all male Adams.

And because of this He then worked out and created ways to save men.

And that is why the bible speaks to men and is specifically directed towards men.

And why men became greater than women and is the head which till the world ends, women are envious, jealous and angry about for they know that both were the same as you see in children but they lost that ground

Thus, God still owns men while women are claimed and owned by Satan.

And that is why women are very very evil and there is no evil and abomination a woman can not do.

And women knew all these since since, which is why they look at us men one kain, and I know every man has seen the eyes of hatred a woman given us, whether from your mother or your sister or neighbour or the worst one is the one that comes from a woman we do not even know and have never even met before.

But we, men because of God's elevation over women and His blessings being plenty yanfu yanfu in our souls and life, we did not see nor know nor even care to see how pained the woman is because of us.

Neither do we think much about the unexplainable evil things we have just seen and experienced at their hands which a woman did to us.

Now I can say for sure that after all the inquiry and research, I can categorically state that Males and men belong to God and that women belong to Satan.

Yes, at the beginning both male and female were owned by God but as we all see, it was the woman who fell for Satan first.

Then the man fell for woman and not for Satan.

I repeat, the man fell for woman and did not fall for Satan.

But woman fell for Satan.

And man did not.

But man falls for woman if he does not hold himself.

Which is why those who say "if you solve woman problem, all of life's problems are solved" are very very correct!!

iLegendd:
Are you sure you're okay? Nothing you post makes sense.

I was trying so hard to be polite, but it seems you dislike such.

The moment I saw rice and beans in your reply, I knew you were battling with hunger and it'll be tough to be articulate and stay on topic. My apologies for whatever you're going through. APC caused it.

It's reality that hunger made you to call real eyeity. You must be a kid.

You sound depressed and I can't relate. Do you need money for rice and beans?

All because i spoilt your travel to dreamland and I used the opportunity to warn others that delusions are fake and are only temporary reliefs, you insalt me. No problem, continue dreaming and see if Trailer would not climb over you.

GothamCities:
That one na special case nah. Him case tie wrapper.

All of dem resemble am!

HeatSeeker:
consider calming down bro. You have created multiple threads on this same complaint. The JWs are the least of anything that can be remotely called a problem in this world. Overall they and other religious groups like them are a net positive to the society.

No they are not!

Unlike many other religious groups whose identities and beliefs are clear and people know to respond to them eg Eckankar, Guru Maharaj, Olumba mulumba, Cele, Catholics, Deeper life, Embassy, Winners, Redeemed etc

Jws beliefs are shrouded in mystery and if you asked them off line they run away. So they are filled with "dem say"(hearsay)

And the Truth is no one can judge a person on hearsay and it is not right to.

So, I am relieved to learn that all the hearsays that we have been hearing about Jws which they refused to answer off line, are True.

And the more these Jws talk, the more we see all the dirty filthy secrets they carry which they don't want people to see.

And so it is very needful to show and warn others about them that they are as evil and abominable as the other known evil societies and organisations that we know.

Hence these threads are necessary and that from these past few days people would start knowing in absolute certainty and confidence that Jws are exactly like the evil abominable cults we all know, since their spirits have been tried and tested as 1 John 4:1-5 Commanded.

And now we can all see that their spirits are Evil!!!

cornelboy:
God or god has same meaning and same Hebrew or greek root word.

When God called human GODS, he didn't mean they are fake or powerless

God in Hebrew sense simply means a mighty or strong one

In a nutshell, god is like a common now. Any mighty person can be called god.

https://www.ancient-hebrew.org/name-god/hebrew-word-for-god.htm

That site will give you an insight

Never tag me as a Satanist again or else i would skip your post.

I call you a Satanist because you are Lying so much just like Satan.

The threads show you have been moving from one lie to another because it is known you need a Lie to defend a Lie.

And look at it, you have now Lied another Lie using Half truths, the same evil thing Satan used against female Adam to kill mankind saying "God or god has same meaning and word in Hebrew.

Whereas, we know that yes one word could have many meanings, but the fact that we have identified the different meanings that word has, has made people create distinct ways of knowing the specific meaning of the Word

And the Hebrew language like every other language in the world has a different name identifying and distinguishing God The Supreme and All Mighty from every other lesser thing that they know, which is what the Bible replicated by giving capital "G" to the All Mighty God and His Son and all other fake and powerless gods, small "g".

And everyone in the world understood that, and that is why there is no issue on this issue of the Hebrew root word of “God" being translated as “God, “god,” or “gods” in English.

So, you have said nothing valid but have tried defending Lies with other Lies which has not worked so far.

GothamCities:
Can you just imagine?

They know what they're doing.

Exactly

See how the one up ⬆️ above this post is showing that he has no respect and regard for God as he is now pretending as if he does not know that capital "G" is used for God in respect and reverence for Him while small "g" is used for all the fake and powerless ones.

By all these everyone can see that Jws are Satanist!

Truthseeker10:
According to your explanation Hebrews 1:8, The Almighty God is the Father not Jesus. So the God in Hebrews 1:8 refers to a lesser God.

Every normal person already knows that a Father is always greater than a Son, even if
John John 14:28 and co did not Say anything.

So, this is pointless.

Truthseeker10:
According to your explanation, is there a difference between Hebrews 1:8 and Psalms 82:6 where humans are also called gods?

Are you that blind, Mad and a big Thief, to not see the difference in the Big "G" and the glowry and honour given to Him in Hebrews 1 eg angels bow to Him as different from the small g, in Psalm 82:6 used in reference to you human where no angels or even animals bow to?

Waka, Satan, you do not have any thing to say

Jozzy4:
But he call us God's too.... " ye are Gods"...

Devils don dey show demselves! So dis na d evil things una dey think!

Is it "Gods" with big "G" as you have bent it to He Said? Oya Liel to His Face!

Jozzy4:
Does that make us Almighty?

Off Point.

I have already pointed out that "God, His Father, Who clearly is the All Mighty God, called His Son, God.

So, this is completely Out of Point!

Truthseeker10:
So in conclusion....The person called "God" whom you claim is Jesus is not the Almighty God in Hebrews 1:8.

The "God" that anoints in Hebrews 1:9 is the Father who is the Almighty God. Do you agree?

I know your Madness is not letting you hear.

I clearly said God, His Father, Who clearly is the All Mighty God, called Him, God.

I have said this 3 times already.

So asking this is completely not sane

GothamCities:
You know, in Christianity, even in theological schools when you're studying world religions, they're designated as a cult and not as a cult. I did not understand why they were called a cult until I started interacting with them on Nairaland.

Ehen!

But as an ordinary man on the street I tend to think that maybe not all cults are bad as some people argue that Pyrate confraternity was merely an academic cults and not the evil cults we know.

So, I am compelled not to judge a person until the person has been given a fair trial.

And we can all see the trial of the Jws here and how they are just showing that they are badder than bad and more eviler and eviler they are, the more and more they speak.

Imagine, this one dared to say in his attempt to deny God All Mighty, calling His Son, God.

cornelboy:
Lol what's the difference between god God, GOd, gOD, GoD and GOD?...

Something only a Satanist or an atheist can do.

Clearly, Jws too are Satanists

GothamCities:
My brother, they don't behave like satanists. That's an understatement. They're satanists themselves. People who I'll see truth and call it a lie, and see lie and call it truth.

Remember, I am just arriving at this conclusion, but after now, I will start calling them Satanist.

iLegendd:
You're battling something I can't solve. Out of alignment. What is even eyeity?

You don't need to reply, you've tried, but I couldn't comprehend you.

You saw I said real eyeity but here you cutting it down to see one eyeity.

Then you pretend not to know what it is even after I have said it since?

Man, you love delusions and deceiving yourself, like a woman.

As I said, delusions are still not real eyeity. And that while you are deluding yourself, real eyeity is always there waiting for you to come back and face it. Or usually, while you are still living in delusions, real eyeity would kick you awake in your balls.

Denial is a save now, pay later scheme.” — Quote by Gavin de Becker

cornelboy:
When God clalled humans God, did he use upper case or lower case?

You gotta be reasonable for once

See Satanist.

You already know that the bible shows God used small "g" for humans and other fake and powerless gods, so if you have any reasonable thing to say, say it or keep silent.

Truthseeker10:
So the "God" in Hebrews 1:8 is not the Almighty God therefore meaning that Jesus is not the Almighty God but a lesser God? Yes or no?

I have already said it God, His Father, Who clearly is All Mighty God, called Him, God.

And that is the point of this thread.

Truthseeker10:
Who are the companions or fellows of the God in Hebrews 1:8?

Clearly your Madness has begun.

Told you before it is "Off Point", but your Madness would not let you hear.

iLegendd:
You destroyed the argument by deviating into something that isn't related to the topic.

Since it's about suffering, I'll still prove to you that things are cheaper now or same price.

I'll compare the exchange rate at that time and the exchange rate now. All countries use Dollar's rate against their currency as benchmark, so we'll do that.

Typing...

That is part of talking and communication.

One talk on one topic can lead to another topic and the point was to point out that though delusions are a sweet way to relieve themselves people should remember that delusions are still not real eyeity.

And that while you are deluding yourself, real eyeity is always there waiting to for you.

HeatSeeker:
You seem to be leading a campaign of calumny against the JWs. Wetin dem do you abeg?! Whatever it is please let it go, it seems to be affecting your mental health.

If you have been following closely you would see that they are the ones causing all these expose, whenever they speak.

Off line, when you ask them about these things they run away and never answer.

But here these answered and the more they answer the more they have revealed who they are.

And now the world can see for themselves who they are and know all about them, that they are Satanists, Atheists, Devils and Antichrists carrying bibles and using it to kill and destroy.