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immaculatesense:
Good sir.
So, you agree that their are some people who will be judged by their WORKS and not by whether they believe in Jesus or not.

Thanks.

Did I not already say that where in the bible do you see a person judged for failing to believe?

immaculatesense:
You have not answered my question directly. Before Jesus came, Africa has existed and they were not Jews. When Jesus came, Africa has existed before Jesus gospel was brought.
My question is: How will the Just God judge this people who lived by their conscience during these periods. Use your answer to explain Romans 2:14-16. Make sure you read the verse before you respond.

Thanks.

And I have a answered, the same way all men are Judged which is, your father accuses you of sleeping with his 3rd wife; guilty or not guilty?

Or Tochi accuses you of cheating him because he trusted you as his brother by selling him a swampy land when you knew that he was trying to buy a dry land to do his carpentry business. And when he asked for refund, you refused, guilty or not guilty?

Romans 2:14 Which nation does not have and know these Laws and that they should not be done?

That is the import of my answer.

ThatWriterBoy:
Hello everyone!
Thanks for your explanations on my last post. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge with me.

So I have entered the book of Deuteronomy, and I have some questions. On the surface, it seems as though there are some discrepancies when Deuteronomy and Numbers narrate the same events.

1. In Deuteronomy 1:9-18, Moses said he was the one that suggested the Israelites split themselves into groups and select leaders to judge the case, but Exodus 18:13-27 said it was Jethro's idea. Now that I look at it, it makes sense. Perhaps it was already a known fact that Jethro gave the idea and there was no need saying it again in Deuteronomy.

2. But in Deuteronomy 1:19-25, the Israelites were the ones that suggested they send spies to explore the land and bring back a report, and in Number's 13:1-3, it says it was The LORD. In fact, in verse 3, it said Moses did as the LORD commanded him to choose the spies and all, but in Deuteronomy, Moses was like "it seemed like a good idea so I selected the spies" (1:23).

The thing is in Deuteronomy it seems as if the narrative is different. While the account in Numbers shows the great rebellion because the LORD commanded the spies to go, Deuteronomy makes it sound as if the people did something God wasn't a part of, and then it went wrong and they were forced to wander for 40 years.

Could anyone please explain to me?

Do you not see that Deuteronomy is simply Moses recounting all that Israel has experienced and witnessed for themselves?

When you are talking to people who saw what you are talking about, the speech is always different and many things do not need to be repeated as all of you together saw what happened.

And see, as I said you are just reading the bible looking for what is wrong that you can use to accuse God for I have been reading the bible since 2019 or so like you are doing and I am still at Deuteronomy 4.

But here you are, flying so fast.

It is very obvious that you are a devil atheist looking for what you would use to accuse God

jaephoenix:
The olden day Israelites are not related to present day Israel
Besides, even if they are related, how does it make the Bible legit

That is why I said that it is you who manufactured them from Toyota factory.

jaephoenix:
Sometimes I wonder if you switch off your business during religious discourses. How can an ALL-KNOWING God be disappointed or have heart breaks? The bible even said God was disappointed with man. Is it that you guys are so retarded you don't understand the meaning of words you use?

You that knew your children could be armed robbers and murderers, did that stop you from being broken hearted when they became it?

A lot of times you talk like you your brain does not have network. Stop repeating yourself.

TheBillyonaire:
NPC, I really feel for you. Your contexts, language model and knowledge are limited.

Going out of reasonable
bounds is what Madness is!

jaephoenix:
So yhwh did not want to know. Simple

Privacy is respected!

jaephoenix:
I didn’t want to go through your idddiiotic post but I have a question… Cant your god look for ways to convert those midianites instead of killing them outrightly.

Please keep your stupidity away from me.

First, Off Point!
Besides, can we count the number of times you atheists have is it by force to be converted?

So please stop talking foolishly.

jaephoenix:
Also god an instruction and the soldiers broke it(thereby sinning). So your god was good with the sin and shrugged and said"Fine, lemme allow these guys to abduct and rape these virgins while I watch"
Awesome

Again, please stop talking. You are too stupid to talk.

When your child did not do all of his homework l(thereby sinning) did you not overlook it, in your right? So, also does God have a right to overlook disobedience.

Secondly, for them to present everything to Moses already tells us none was raped.

And if you had read the Commandments you would have seen that it prohibited rape of captives. And if the captured does not willingly accept marriage then she shall be sold out.

Which we have told you severally but you are too stupid and evil to hear.

Janosky:
Still D dunce, keep venting the bile & evil in your heart.

You know you don't study your Bible but you're shouting upandan.
JW's can consult Biblehub,Bibliatodo, JW's website, Bible.org etc, to see several Bible versions online.

Wicked empty soul.

Tueh !

You are just proving that Jws are Bible/book ashawos . You are looking for any book that supports whatever fantasy you have discarding anyone that does not support as you have proven in your discard of your own Jw bible. Bible ashawo.

caracas:
Stop fooling yourselves, so you know there's God the father , God the son and God the holy Spirit, yet you ppl posit that Muslims n other non Christians that worship God will not make heaven.
Make it make sense.....
Or do you not know that God was been worshipped before the existence of Christianity?

They were worshipping God and yet God did not bless them rather they got wiped out?

Anyone who is truly not a Christian is going to be burned

immaculatesense:
StillDtruth
I have taken a bit of time to read some of your perspectives on this platform especially on this fragile topic. Let me engage you a bit so I can have some clarity and also know your complete line of thoughts.
OUR ANCESTORS .

Do you think it will be Just for a Just God like our heavenly Father to send these honorable men to eternal damnation on the basis of "They Didn't Believe In Jesus."?
While You provide your answer. Please, consider the book of Romans 2:14-16.

Thank you.

This is where I get to remind you of Samuel's error. Remember he saw one of David's brothers as good and as acceptable but God answered him "No".

So, this is where you I remind you again that God Said "His thoughts are not your thoughts and His Ways, not your Ways"

Thus, whom you call honourable are often guilty of secret sins eg adultery, sleeping with father's wife, or brothers wife, murder etc

Then, lastly, where in the bible do you see anyone convicted because "they did not believe"? Was it Noah's world? Or Pharaoh over Abram's wife or Sodom and Gomorrah? Etc

Did you not read that man is condemned because he has done evil?

TheBillyonaire:
Typically, Non-Playable Characters (NPCs) are triggered by these types of messages. You are running on a substrate that has no future out of the sophia system, so how can you relate? I feel for you.

Men, you are not sane. If the embassy asks you to lists the places you have stayed and the number of children you have, you would do that and guaranteely, you would never say that you came from a star or a planet.

So, you obviously are running a religion of Madness for mad people

Cold141114:
It's misery, I am currently 29 and I have been working towards getting the answers but none i swear

"Nothing in this world can satisfy
Jesus is the cup that won't run dry!

Isreal Houghton lyrics.

I've searched all over, couldn't find nobody.

Looked high and looowu
Still couldn't find nobody!

Nobody greater, Nobody greater, Nobody greater than Jesus.

But you can keep searching.

DarkLover:
We come here, whine and dine, until we grow old & die to become an history, it's very strange to me. Isn't life ought to be more than that?

Why should it be more than that?

I am very sure that if you were hungry, then you would have known that what God has given us, is very very good and complete.

But if you are Cursed then, you must seek for something else

Unfortunately, there is none for the Cursed

WhiteBalaclava:
We give more in charity and to the poor

Than you do to your pastors and so called Daddies

Because of the riches Rome stole from the nations it unlawfully killed and invaded.

No problem, you win. God will give you people your reward

Catholics don't believe in tithes.. Even though they would say that they are not against it


And it is the principle of Catholicism that their members must be anti protestant, so how can they pay tithes to other churches!

But we know they do because Catholics are polytheists in secret

TheBillyonaire:
Now that we have both agreed on pre-birth existence and the certainty of After-Life Existence. It is necessary that I begin the real process of clearing the misconceptions in the mind control systems of the Savior Programs. And to do that, I need to ask you certain basic questions so I can understand your position and if Christianity is the right tool to explore these, because for me, this is where Christianity had little tool to guide me beyond.

1. Which location Star System -Planet, Continent, Country was your Soul before you were birthed into this incarnation?
2. What were you doing there? Was there marriage? Did you have kids?
3. Why did you come here? Were you forced, deceived or willingly exploring the universe?
4. What is your mission here and how are you doing on that mission?
5, What is the purpose of your present life on Earth ?
6. Where will you be heading after your mortality and have you been doing site seeing to check those locations prior to your exit?
7. Even if you are not sure of the questions above; What do you think is the over all purpose of our lives collectively?
8. What is the nature of Soul?
9. What is the difference between Soul and Spirit?

I will be patient with you here and hopefully we will gather enough data to guide you through this stage.

Because people are too simple to see that you are Mad.

For, if you came from a planet or star somewhere would you not know it exactly how you know the place where you where born or raised?

Not to talk of being married and all.

It's ok, mad people also have a right to have followers.

Zonefree:
Women are easily manipulated. Check videos of fake miracles online, about 94% of the people around are women.

Why are they always looking for a miracle?

Because they are Cursed.

GOFRONT:
Women are in church to honour their Daddy in the Lord


Men no send any daddy

To steal his blessings and bring him down.

Because women are 3 times more Cursed than men. Why do you think they hate you men and are always trying to put you down or destroy you?

There was no church when Noah, Abraham and Moses followed God!

And if you follow God rightly people would run from you because you will be seeing that they are still devils even if they go to churches.

And the funny thing is that it is you who threatens them because you do not go to church because it clearly means that you do not want to join them.

And I have not gone to church since 2015 I think, so choose do you want to please God or please men? That is the exam in front of you.

jaephoenix:
The Bible is a fictional book. Don't worry yourself about those tales by moonlight. It won't make sense. There are worse stories there that are idiotic

Yes. Israel fell out of the sky or was manufactured by Toyota in Japan.

ThatWriterBoy:
Hello everyone!

So these are my questions;
1. Wasn't Moses somehow related to the Midianites? His father-in-law Jethro was a Midianite. His wife Zipporah was a Midianite. Didn't he have family there he cared about when giving the instruction to totally wipe them out? In fact, the Bible mentions his brother-in-law Hoban in Numbers 10:29. Moses begged him to stay with them, but he decided to return to Midian to stay with his family. Was he killed too? That's wild to me.

Did you not read that Moses's father in law was God fearing?

And do you not see that his father in law was not there meaning that those in the land were not the kind of people who Moses related with?

Thank God you saw his brother in law was with him meaning they followed him but clearly, anyone who does not want to follow Moses means that they reject God's salvation and they choose to return to their evil and pagan way of life.

Which means that they become enemies of God and if their land does evil to God and becomes an enemy of God, then they shall be destroyed.

Any midianite who does not want to be an enemy of God knows to run especially as they see and have heard what God does to His enemies.

So, if they were there, then it means that they agreed to be God's enemies and that they were ready to fight Him, as atheists and devils have sworn they shall do.

ThatWriterBoy:
2. I understand why God would ask them to wipe out the entire tribe and all, and I even get why they had to kill the male children too. But why did they have to share the female virgins amongst themselves? In fact, in Numbers 31:28-40, it talked about the Lord's share of which included 32 virgin girls. I thought only Levites were permitted to serve in the temple (correct me if I'm wrong) so why ?

Read Moses's speech again, you can see that he was commanding that all should be killed with none remaining.

But God decided to work with what the soldiers had done, which means He Saw the good they had in mind, which is clearly according to the foolish mind of them, they thought these things they had kept alive were good.

And if God did not accept it, then they would lose morale and doubt themselves and of course even go against God and die.

But God saved them and decided to walk with their mistake and seeming "good intentions".

So, is it that you see that after that day, women worked in the temple? No.

Do you know what happens to things that belong to God?

Answer: They get burned in the Fire.

So, technically the women were burned in the fire.

However, God directed that they should be given to the Levites.

And remember they are foreign slaves, so they can be sold.

ThatWriterBoy:
3. I'm not comfortable with the whole genocide and all. I get it, but it's disturbing. Or maybe I'm just reading an ancient book with my 21st century mind. But then people would say the word of God remains constant. So how is it OK for the Israelites to own slaves, and even commit genocide back in the BC era and it's an abomination in the 21st century?

I'm not an atheist. I believe God is good. I'm just trying to understand. Thank you very much for your time.

You are Lying, you are an atheist and you are actually fine picking the bible to find what you can say is reasonable wrong with it.

And especially if indeed that your mind was pure and bona fide, by now you would have seen how God's mind operates and the abundance of good mind and extreme over patience and Honour He has above our standard of reasonability

But I can see nobe of these things count for Him, else even you would have started advocating for Him.

But because you are evil, therefore you are looking for evil to say that He did even though you have started since Genesis till this point and you have not found one.

And that did not even count for Him.

So, you are a devil atheist and I am here to answer you on whatever you discover to the best of my ability for God has already fore answered you even before you were born. You are not the first.

Have you called America's bombing of Japan genocide?
No.

Or have you complained about the wiping out of bandits in the north?
No

Or what Isreal is doing to Hamas since Hamas attacked them 2yrs back?

Why, because it is covered by the Law of Just War!
There is nothing like genocide in Just War.

FreeSpirited:
Trust me, some of us aren't sharing our comments or views because of a need to fornicate or commit adultery. It's just a need to know the real undivided truth devoid of assumptions, without attempting to pursue an ideal that was never really inferred in the scriptures....which we by ourselves made conclusion for.
You will be shocked some of us are heavily anointed and have overcome the spirit of lust and fornication that estranged us from God in our earlier years. I will say make sure you live true to ur claims of perfection and not just glory in perfection in a virtual internet world while being tormented by sexual lust in real life
.

Lies!

When people want to rob a bank they start asking questions about bank security.

Janosky:
Empty low life, Still D Dunce.
you."

See Demon jw did not let shame stop him from saying that he abandoned his JW bible and went bible shopping, even to claiming Aramaic bible that no one just to defend his Lies. What a madness.

As I have said you Jws do not have anything reasonable to say, ever

GreyApple:
North Korea does not allow any religion, they worship their president, so, what will happen to them, because they have not heard of Jesus or Mohammed

Which started only after Kim's father took power in the 70s.. but before that they had Christianity.

OlofofoCorner:
Brainwashed blackman......bloody slave.....

Na only una the Brits colonized? Look at indians.....mumu blackman

See brainwashed black slave dey repeat wetin American movie don colonize and brainwash you to say as hin no get anytin wey hin won talk .. foolish atheist Blackman with useless life

caracas:
Ppl in Noah ' s time heard of Jesus?
Chai you ppl will really lead a lot to damnation with your dumb teachings

You people do not read. Did you not read that Jesus is The LORD?

Janosky:
LYING is embedded in your genes.
Just continue deceiving yourself .

Says the Liar who went as far fabricating his own bible to defend the Lie he gave.

Janosky:
Hebrew 1:2
God Yahweh created the universe THROUGH his Son (Jesus)".

From Colossians to John 1:3, to 1 Corinthians 8:6, the Greek word DIA meaning 'THROUGH ' is in right there in these verses.

None of these verses support your FALSE claims.
You can continue WAILING & ranting up and down, the meaning of Greek DIA won't ever suit your FALSEHOOD and self serving deceit.

See Madness. You confess that The Mightiest created everything through His Son, yet you dey argue they define "through".

Your Madness don cast finish and you no get any reasonable thing you wan say for this life

Courz:
Exactly. The topic of your thread is actually Correct. Satan cannot stand in the presence of Jesus. Former Satanists who are now Christians have said that they have observed How Satan runs away with a speed of light when Jesus came to deliver them and rescue them from their Coven when they called upon his name. There is no such thing as Satan and Jesus fighting. Satan is too small for Jesus. From several Testimonies I have read and watched, Satan and his Demons flee at the sight of Jesus because Of Who he is, because of the Authority he has. They know it means Death for them. This proves that Jesus Can Never Be Angel Michael. It is such a shame that JWs don't know Jesus whereas Satan himself understands who Jesus Truly is! All because of their Freemason Governing Body who are Satanists giving Jesus a different identity so that JWs do not have a relationship with him same way they don't have. Reason why they are taught that Jesus is Not their Mediator.

I think you are now seeing JWS for what they truly are. They are not Peace loving as how they like to paint themselves when they go to preach. At least from what you have been seeing from the JW miscreants that have been arguing with you for weeks. The person has another moniker you already know about. It is even possible the person is amongst these JWs around you. The person went to open a new Nairaland account today today to threaten you to make you back down because you have shown the foolishness of their doctrines and how they sound to Sane people. Many people are already aware of how they act when they are exposed and have their doctrines trashed in the dust bin. It is good the person helped to reveal who they are by his threats. This way, the public can testify of their hypocrisy. That's how Cults operate. They threaten you When you show them that you cannot be brainwashed same way They were threatening people to join them back in the day with the belief that the world is going to end in 1975. They don't like it when you know the Bible very well and can use it to prove them wrong. JWs are Never wrong. Only the rest of Christianity are wrong and are for Satan.

Every normal person has seen it that is why even atheists shout "Jesus" and choose to marry christians even if it is the fake ones.

Courz:
Hypocrisy! You see these JWS? This is how different governments will start shining their torchlight on them when they notice the damage their doctrines do to people. The Denmark government is also shining their torch on them too. JWS will come out and say they are being persecuted because they are the One True Religion forgetting that Christians are persecuted for being Followers of Christ, Not over some stupid archaic doctrine with no basis in the Bible that destroy Families and go against Fundamental Human Rights. They also forget that they themselves persecute their members who choose to disagree with their leadership and doctrines and Leave the Cult. Good luck to them as they try to justify their breaking of the Laws of the Land.

I believe God is now dropping blows on fake religions like Jws and Catholics.