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Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jesus Created The Angels, So D4 He is Their God by StillDtruth(op): 5:22pm On Feb 28, 2025
cornelboy:
Whether off point or not, who were Jesus's fellow at Hebrew 1:9?
Even if I patronise you, you still have nothing for your own words doth condemn you saying

Hebrew 1 NIV[i]
6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.”[c]

Which clearly means that Jesus was with God, His Father and His Companion is God, His Father. Which John 1 and Proverbs 8 confirm.

Your own Hebrews 6:1, said so.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jesus Created The Angels, So D4 He is Their God by StillDtruth(op): 5:04pm On Feb 28, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You this man you like trouble too much.

Abeg mek i helep dem change wetin NIV tok to mek dem hapi

"You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy.” ‭Hebrews 1:9 NIV

Sorry this one don pour sand inside their gari.

Why this translators come tok like say Jesus get another person wey pass am nah?
And why this translators no call those people him creatures?
Why dem com say na him companions?

Abeg remind me wetin be the meaning of that word CO, CO, "COMPANION"‬ undecided
Your brother in Satan already confessed saying
Hebrew 1 NIV[i]
6 "when God brings his firstborn into the world".

Meaning that Jesus Christ was not even with them. For, He was with God, exactly as John Said, and your brother also confessed.


So, you can not change it, and you do not have any valid thing to say ever.

So, you Jws are Liars and bona fide children of Satan.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jesus Created The Angels, So D4 He is Their God by StillDtruth(op): 4:57pm On Feb 28, 2025
cornelboy:
I will ask again, who were the fellows Hebrew 1:9 talks about?

What was Jesus identity before he came to earth?

It makes sense that Jesus is the archangel, he is very powerful and leads other angels.
Off Point.

And no, you own words have proven that He is not.

And I have just raised another thread showing how proving that Archangel Michael was weaker than Jesus Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: Jws Lie :angel Michael Struggled Fighting With Satan, Jesus Did Not. by StillDtruth(op): 4:48pm On Feb 28, 2025
GothamCities:
That's even in Christ's manly body o.

Have the JWs seen the scriptures below or they're feigning blindness?

"And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years" (Revelation 20:1-2).

Do JWs think that this angel in this scripture who caught Satan like a fowl is mightier than Jesus? Angel Michael couldn't catch Satan this way.

JWs are liars!
Exactly.

That definitely is the Angel, the, Warden, I think Chief Warden of the prison of the bottomless pit, who of course is super stronger than Satan moving here.

He definitely sounds stronger than Michael.

And yet, even him is no where near Jesus Christ.

Clearly, Jws are Lying
Christianity EtcRe: Jws Lie :angel Michael Struggled Fighting With Satan, Jesus Did Not. by StillDtruth(op): 4:40pm On Feb 28, 2025
Another proof is that at the Name of Jesus, everything in heaven, earth under the earth, stops for a moment.

Philippians 2:10
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Still the same thing happened when Jesus Christ was known as The LORD!

Psalm 124:8
Our help is in the name of the LORD, who made heaven and earth

Colossians 3:17
And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

But without any disrespect intended, to angel Michael, this does not happen with Michael's name, at all, at all.

Whereas, whether we say "in the Name of the LORD" or "in the Name of Jesus", the effect is still the same.

So, clearly, The LORD and Jesus Christ, is The Same Person.


Whilst the Angel known as Michael is just an angel. Even if he has another name which he does not have, (for every time he was sent, he was identified in his name as Michael) he was still the same angel Micheal Person; he neither increased nor decreased.

Thus, again Jws Lie when they say Jesus is Archangel Michael.
Christianity EtcJws Lie :angel Michael Struggled Fighting With Satan, Jesus Did Not. by StillDtruth(op): 4:13pm On Feb 28, 2025
Here is another proof why Jws are Lying.

The Bible shows us that Angel Michael struggles a little bit when fighting with Satan and does not easily overcome him.

But when Satan came against Jesus, you can see he only used talk.

And when Jesus was done with him, He drove him away like a parent drives a little child.

And we can all see, Satan left, even without protest or fight.

So, Jws are Lying.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jesus Created The Angels, So D4 He is Their God by StillDtruth(op): 3:56pm On Feb 28, 2025
So there is no way that Jesus is an Angel since He created the angels.

Therefore, Michael the angel and Archangel is not Jesus Christ and cannot be Jesus Christ!
Christianity EtcJW Confesses That Jesus Created The Angels, So D4 He is Their God by StillDtruth(op): 3:45pm On Feb 28, 2025
cornelboy:
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That's why he's the archangel. God set him above his fellows/companions.
Please stop talking rubbish.

You have already stated and admitted that "Jesus is God's firstborn son, unique and the only being created by God directly".

Having admitted that Jesus was The Only one created by God, you therefore confirm John 1:3 that it was Jesus Christ Who created "all things", including the angels, which is why we see the angels bow to Him.

And not just based on the fact that God Commanded them to do so.

So, since He created them, He is not their fellow!!!

And finally, from your statement "when God brings his firstborn into the world" you confirmed that Jesus Christ was not even with them. For, He was with God, exactly as John Said.

So at no time was He their fellow nor did He keep company with them!

So clearly Archangel Michael, is clearly An Angel known as Michael and not Jesus Christ.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jw Is Lying When They Say Jesus Is An Angel by StillDtruth(op): 3:33pm On Feb 28, 2025
cornelboy:
u
That's why he's the archangel. God set him above his fellows/companions.
Please stop talking rubbish.

You have already stated and admitted that "Jesus is God's firstborn son, unique and the only being created by God directly".

Having admitted that Jesus was The Only one created by God, you therefore confirm John 1:3 that it was Jesus Christ Who created "all things", including the angels, which is why we see the angels bow to Him. And not just based on the fact that God Commanded it.

So, since He created them, He is not their fellow!!!

And finally, from your statement "when God brings his firstborn into the world" you confirmed that Jesus Christ was not even with them. For, He was with God, exactly as John Said.

So at no time was He their fellow nor did He keep company with them!

So clearly Archangel Michael, is clearly An Angel known as Michael and not Jesus Christ.


So there is no valid thing you can say at all so go tell your Jw congregation that they are Liars and children of Satan, blaspheming God!!
BusinessRe: Dissecting The Legal Battle Over Herbert Wigwe’s Estate And Inheritance by StillDtruth: 12:35pm On Feb 28, 2025
NothingDoMe:
Lol. I for say you are wrong but this is Nigeria.
That God you remember.
Christianity EtcRe: These Threads Show That Jws Are Antichrists! by StillDtruth(op):
Janosky:
Proskuneo Greek word original meaning to prostrate, kneeling in homage to a monarch or elder.
Screenshot evidence.

Your Catholic mentors said it's "homage" @ Hebrew 1:6.

Abeg carry your childish tantrums out of this thread.
Oh Pee!
Off Point.
BusinessRe: Dissecting The Legal Battle Over Herbert Wigwe’s Estate And Inheritance by StillDtruth: 12:28pm On Feb 28, 2025
Appeal court can still say something else eg that on humanitarian grounds the father and cousin should be allowed to partake in the administration.

Then Supreme court... Will choose which one it wants to decide
Christianity EtcRe: Bible, The Sacred Scriptures Of Judaism And Christianity by StillDtruth: 8:31am On Feb 28, 2025
Beatzchord:
Bible, the sacred scriptures of Judaism and Christianity...
You are talking rubbish.

Judaism is not the religion of The Commandment which God gave Moses but the worship of idols.

Even google confirms it.

": a religion developed among the ancient Hebrews".

Judaism refers to Judah's behaviour.

Jeremiah 3:7-11
With a few exceptions, notably Hezekiah and Josiah, the kings of Judah were more corrupt than their counterparts in the north. Israel set the pace into idolatry, and Judah enthusiastically followed. "Israel and Ephraim stumble in their iniquity; Judah also stumbles with them" (Hosea 5:5).

So judahism, is not the same as Christianity.
Christianity EtcRe: JW Confesses That Jw Is Lying When They Say Jesus Is An Angel by StillDtruth(op): 8:19am On Feb 28, 2025
So Jw seeing that he had nothing to say moved post and said

cornelboy:
So who were his companions?
Off Point.

The Topic is not Jesus Christ's companions.

Thus, it is settled that you Jws are Lying in Denying Christ Jesus and blaspheming Him in calling Him an angel even after you have confessed that "angels worship Him." and that "He is above them".
Christianity EtcJW Confesses That Jw Is Lying When They Say Jesus Is An Angel by StillDtruth(op): 8:16am On Feb 28, 2025
cornelboy:
6 And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
Let all God’s angels worship him.”[c]

I'm more interested in verse 9, who were Jesus's companions? And why did God set him above them?
See yourself.

Your verse 6 admits and confesses that the 'angels worship Him."

Your verse 9 also confesses and admits that "He is above them".

So, Jesus Christ cannot be their companion when since you admit that He was The First.

And secondly, from your statement "when God brings his firstborn into the world" it even means that Jesus Christ was not even with them. For, He was with God, exactly as John Said.

So, they never even got a chance to be His companions
.

So, you have no ground!
Christianity EtcRe: These Threads Show That Jws Are Antichrists! by StillDtruth(op): 8:10am On Feb 28, 2025
cornelboy:
So who were his companions?
Off Point. Different Topic.

Thus, it is settled that you Jws are Lying in Denying Christ Jesus and blaspheming Him in calling Him an angel even after you have confessed that "angels worship Him." and that "He is above them".
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by StillDtruth:
bobestman:
The post sounds funny to me
You already know the meaning of adultery and still asking if the person who married commits adultery. How will a person who married commit adultery with the wife or wives he married? Since he married them legally they are his wives so it is not adultery or sin..
Because

1) you can not marry 2 of them at the same time.

One of them must be first. And that would make her the first wife and the other will be a meddling harlot marrying a married man.

2) The expects fornication to be done with one person, but here you are carrying the immorality of 2somes into marriage and you think you are not guilty of sin?

3) premeditated adultery is still adultery

4) Using marriage to cover adultery, is still adultery and proof of adultery.

See how your love for sin is making you create a way of sinning and escaping punishment, like Cain, and Ananias and Sapphira.

See pagans imagining a vain thing.

Obedience is better than evasion of punishment


bobestman:
In the case of polygamy, Christ was a Jew and it is not sin in the Jewish laws. Christ must have had friends who are polygamous. ..
Name one of Christ's friends who was polygamous if you are not a Liar?

While you are on that name any Isrealite in the new testament who still had 2 wives, if you are not a Liar?
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by StillDtruth: 7:31am On Feb 28, 2025
FreeSpirited:
It's either your confusion has no remedy Sir. or U have comprehension problem....or u are deliberately feigning ignorance of my logical point
It is you who is trying to Lie and change post since you saw that the road you took got blocked.

So you are trying to go back to the spot where you think you made a mistake so that when I answer you would respond in another way that you think would not get blocked.

If you want to try another way of argument, lay it on its own and let us see if it won't still fail like all the others.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 7:24am On Feb 28, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
So you know how God communicate to warn of dangers? You have God special mobile digit?

If you were born in Somalia, you would be a staunch Muslim today.
Change of Post.
Even you were not born in Somalia so how do you know that he must be a Muslim?

We have Muslims states up north and many born Muslims still changed religion eg Maximus69 aka MaxinDHouse claims he was a Muslim now he is JW.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 7:20am On Feb 28, 2025
Proserpina:
When I see people try to defend their disbelief in God i laugh. Why spend so much time trying to convince others of the inexistent/inactiveness of someone you claim doesn't exist or care? huh

Here's the hard pill you don't want to swallow, life is good and bad, everyone including children of God will go through life. It is left to you to decide what you make out of it. When I go through bad times, I say "God it's that time again help me like you have done before."

There's divine protection in times where bad situation could lead to destruction if a child of God goes through it but how many people know how God communicates to warn of danger ahead? Yours is just to open mouth waaah and blame God.

It's the entitled ones that even amaze me most... You hear, "Lord how can you let this happen to me". Even Jesus went through pains and hell, who are you again? :-\

Nobody should vex me this night o .
Imagine, devil go dey expect say God go help am.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 7:19am On Feb 28, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
They have known each other for more than 10 years and consider themselves best friends.

I am trying to make an allegory to individuals who pray and entrust God with their protections and still become victims of horrible crimes.

When God fails like Obi, we try to make excuses for God who is supposed to be almighty, all-powerful and all-seeing.
So when people have known themselves for 10years plus, then they are automatically friends.

Obviously, you are a child and have never worked in an office.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 7:17am On Feb 28, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
They have known each other for more than 10 years and consider themselves best friends.

I am trying to make an allegory to individuals who pray and entrust God with their protections and still become victims of horrible crimes.

When God fails like Obi, we try to make excuses for God who is supposed to be almighty, all-powerful and all-seeing.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 7:15am On Feb 28, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
@Proserpina,

I am interested in the answers to this question too.
Like you have seen a property that is owned by 4000 people.
See foolishness.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 7:12am On Feb 28, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Why are people having a problem with my chosen scenario?

If you trust in someone to take care of you, that person fails in that duty, will you continue to trust that individual again?

On pages of Nairaland, worshippers and their pastor were kidnapped in Delta State, these are individuals who went yo pray to God.

Why pray to a God who cannot do the basic job of protecting you, a God who sits back and enjoys seeing you suffer and ravaged.

Does it mean he is not all powerful or does not even exist? Have you ever asked yourself those questions?
Everyone here is telling that they are witnesses that they see God takes care of people whether they are worthy or not.

However, they are also telling you that it is understandable that if you do not have a relationship with Him, then it is not surprising that bad would happen to you. And 95% of the time, people play fair weather friends to God. They want Him to be there for them and take care of them and all those things but when it comes to doing His own things, they run away.

And tell me, is it not clear that you are a devil, for since you have made up your mind that you would hate God, why are you trying to force others, since you are not the one they raped or kidnapped in Delta?

If you are not a devil then why is it paining that other people pray to God?
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 7:00am On Feb 28, 2025
Foodqueen:
Certain scenarios can't happen, these are one of them.
Exactly!

He is just trying to find a way abusing God.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 6:58am On Feb 28, 2025
Free2Fly:
You for use Western names nah, because this kind yeye scenario no fit happen in Nigeria in the presence of a Nigerian(Obi).
Nigerians have their issues, but not when it comes to protecting something entrusted into their care.
They intruder cum rapist go collect well well, so no need going that far of imagining how the friendship will pan out.
Exactly.

Plus mama put no dey abroad.

Plus you no fit send 6yr old go buy food for abroad

Plus for Nigeria we get idea who fit rape person so eye dey on top am well well.
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth: 6:54am On Feb 28, 2025
Nnamdipapa:
Thank you for your response, I will answer your question with detailed explanations but I need to know your position, If you have a friend like Obi, will your friendship continue?
Surely, Obi was never your friend and you made a big mistake in thinking he was.

But the biggest mistake is u no sabi measure friend?
FamilyRe: I Need Your Honest Opinion by StillDtruth:
Nnamdipapa:
I have this scenario playing out in my mind and I will like everyone to weigh in and give me their honest opinions.

Let's assume your name is Charles and you have a 6 year old daughter and you also have a close friend whose name is Obi.

You and Obi have been friends for more than 10 years and one day, you were going to work, no one us at home and, you asked Obi to take care of your daughter.

Obi agreed afterall, what are friends for right? He came over and sat with your six year old daughter looking after her.

Now, an ugly incident happened while you were away, someone broke into your home, a criminal and a serial sex offender, he attacked your daughter, the poor girl was screaming and crying hysterically in fear, Obi was sitting down, watching the whole incident and did NOTHING.
He could have called 911, he could have directly intervened but he sat there and did nothing, as a matter of fact, he found the whole incident to be amusing.
At the end, the poor girl got raped and blood every where under the watchful eyes of her caretaker, Obi who did not lift a finger to help the poor girl during the whole ordeal.

Now, you are back from work to find your daughter unconscious and ravaged, you were told Obi, your best friend, entrusted with care of your daughter, did nothing to help in her time of need.

My question, what will your reaction be to Obi knowing what you know now? Will you still continue to be best friends and chummy with him? Will you still continue to trust him with your family members?

I need your honest opinion and please stick to the topic
What type of friendship? Is it good morning only friendship?

From his reaction, clearly you are not friends and besides do you not know how to measure if a person you meet is a friend?
Christianity EtcRe: Finding Out That I AM GOD Has Changed Everything by StillDtruth: 6:42pm On Feb 27, 2025
ANCESTORIAL8:
Okay then.

How do you KNOW what is TRUE my good sir ?
Walk me through how you validate "TRUTHS"
There are many ways.

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. Arthur Conan Doyle

By doubting we are led to question, by questioning we arrive at the truth. Peter Abelard.

Truth exists; only lies are invented.
Georges Braque
Christianity EtcRe: Finding Out That I AM GOD Has Changed Everything by StillDtruth: 6:28pm On Feb 27, 2025
ANCESTORIAL8:
Thank you for your input.

It seems I don't have anything to say to you, as you seem to know everything and do not require any more effort for a discuss.

Thank you for stopping by. Trust you're having a great time ?
Sorry sir, I am interested in what you have to say but you have to ensure that it is Right, Accurate, True and Valid.

That way we can be sure that what we are getting is GOOD.
Christianity EtcRe: These Threads Show That Jws Are Antichrists! by StillDtruth(op): 6:23pm On Feb 27, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Why are you still bothering about this?
Ask them clearly to define the terms "God" and "Lord" and ask them from their definitions whether or not Jesus fits!!!

Also ask them, how their supposed Michael(Jesus) showcased great hypocrisy by fighting in heaven then turning pacifist on earth after all God is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow?🤨

You should also ask them, where their non, transcendental God dwelt before he made the universe and also where he will dwell when the heavens and earth are rolled away🤨?

Also ask them, why they don't equate Jesus to a fan🙃? after all one in a certain verse records him "coming with a fan" but why the persistent equation to Michael?

Also ask them what about the other Archangels? And how their supposed Michael is preeminent over them? Or did the other Angels become "arch" because they too like Michael came to the earth and died?🤤 Or they were the first created👀 because how then do you reconcile Max's primus conventus🤤(first set) with Michael's preeminence 🤕?

Also ask them how come science confirms the omnipresence of "ENERGY" but yet their JEHOVAH is not🤕?

All these are the pertinent questions they should provide🤤!!!

Am still waiting for that fool, Janosky, to see how he will wriggle his way out of the logical trap he has put himself 🙃
grin
Let me use my own way to catch them.

Me self dey wait Janose let me see the abracadabra he will perform. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Is It Adultery If A Christian Bachelor Marries Two Women Or Virgins At A Time? by StillDtruth: 6:18pm On Feb 27, 2025
gohf:
shhh shhh 🐍 come let me swallow you up like the rod of Moses 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The thread already shows that you do not have any valid thing to say again.

All your tricks and Lies no work. So just go sit down and think about your Life.

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