₦airaland Forum

Jarchi:
Wiki has sources, I can't verify the sources on YouTube, you just don't get it. Will I put YouTube video for source material??

Jarchi:
° Brodaman, so if an Edo child or anybody in diaspora is told or wants to know the history, he goes on wiki, what does he believe?

Jarchi:



° Brodaman, that's why I'm saying you need to find the link or the source that prof quoted, the Benin census board to do that. That's a journal quoting, it is not in authority to certify that it is true only the body that conducted it can. You can try Nigeria Bureau of statistics if they can have the approx 2023 stats, but more of the links I have is for the whole Edo not Benin alone and that's the problem, our government needs to do more°
***Jarchi***

Jarchi:
Or na eyewitness or thesis research I go do if my pikin ask me about Hausa history no be same trusted site I go find

So bring up a post on wiki that's false or hoax?

lawani:
Edo is restricted to Benin city. Edo was a provincial language of the empire, spoken in the suburbs of the capital in the past but now it is the language of Benin city but it was never the language of the Benin empire but the people that invited the Yoruba there were Edo and they renamed their capital to Ife Ibinu which later became Benin.

lawani:
Are you educated at all?. I gave you academic proofs of things still existing today, what evidence more valid than that do you want?. I did not download anything from the internet. Ogotun, Agenebode, Ugbodumila and Onitsha are living things.

lawani:
The L1 languages of Anioma are Igbo, Yoruba (Olukunmi) and Igala. There are no Edoid languages there at all.

OceanRed:
lol.. you are funny bro , i wont insult or trade words with you. pre colonial map that yu got from google and you claimed that google returns garbage. how about you share the source of your map? lets start from there

Jarchi:



° Brodaman, so why haven't you edited it since anyone could edit wiki?
Population grows we all know that.
So those 4 links at the bottom of wiki is useless?°
***Jarchi***

lawani:
Apart from Benin empire that you claim to be multilingual. Can you mention another empire in history with no lingua franca, that was multilingual like the Benin empire as you claim, that had no language of business used across the length of the state for easy administration?

lawani:
Do you have any material for an Edo speaking empire?. I have given you names of Benin towns established from the capital and the fact that the whole place is hemmed in by Yoruba speaking communities that are not even contiguous with each other or with the rest of Yoruba land and I have pointed out that for thousands of years Edo was spoken only in the Benin suburbs and is local only to Benin today with communities two miles away not able to understand the current Benin language. What other material do you need again?

OceanRed:
You are more dumb than i actually thought, so google is now a lying machine right? the same google that you downloaded your map from, impressive!

OceanRed:
You are a complete dulard!, illitrate and extremely dumb. simply google oyo empire to have complete understanding of how vast the yoruba is. the current Benin republic was formally under oyo empire. it is diffrent from benin kindom which is currently a state in Nigeria!

bora1:
Youngman, Republic of Benin on the map is not the same as Benin township. Even the Benin republic has a part of their history traced to Ife. There had been Ife Oòyèlagbò, the origin of daybreak (after creation of man). There was Ife Oòyè the cradle of Yoruba race which was attacked by the Ugbo tribe. This war led to migration of some Ife aborigins to establish new town and settlement far and wide. The present day location, Ile-Ife is an expansion of Ife Oòyè. But what would you know? Even a tiny source like Ife can birth a large expanse like Benin republic, not to talk of Benin township.

ElSudani:
Once again I will ignore your insult, it's all about your intellect.
Now, let me educate you. What the Europeans of that era meant by "negro" is black and the meaning is still the same to this day.
What the maker of your map did not realize or didn't know at the time is that the whole continent was black. This is the only reason he would refer to one small section of the continent as Negroland.
We can excuse them for not having all the information but what about you?
Why are you arguing like you are still in 1747?

ElSudani:
I will never reply your insult so as not to derail this interesting conversation. Where in ancient or current history in known as Negroland in Africa? Negro means black if I should remind you. Which part of Africa was not Negroland?
It should be obvious to any smart 12 year old that this map was based on someone's imagination given what we know about own history in Africa and not a map made by a European who obviously did not venture beyond the coast of Africa at this particular time.

ElSudani:
People who argue like you are usually very uninformed and ignorant. The point remains that if the maker of the map can make untrue claims about several parts of Africa why would you base your argument about Benin on such a map? This is despite obvious and visible misrepresentations about the scope of the Benin empire!
And you call yourself smarter than a 12 year old kid.

ElSudani:
If I remember correctly, the entire Africa was populated by negro people in 1747 except for a few places in North Africa. So, which part of Africa was Negroland and which part was not according to your map?
The map was based on the imagination of those who made it. There was no Negroland region in Africa in 1747.
Are you still smarter than a 12 year old?

WeddingParol:
Oga, be educated.

The old Benin kingdom isn't just the current Benin city in edo state, in those days when you hear Benin, most times they refer to the today's Republic of Benin which Dahome was part of.

pacespot:
Where did you get this map from?

Stoplying:
https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

ElSudani:
I am telling you Mr. Who is smarter than a 12 year old in developed countries that there was never a place known as Negroland except to the people who created the inaccurate map.

Stoplying:
https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

Faithti:
Trying to explain to this guy's that Russia and China with the west doesn't have us in there best interest, is like going to a bar and telling the people beer is bad.

dinkyicon:
nope. Ọba doesnt report to emir. Ilorin is a irate but other towns in kwara state doesn't report to emir

Stoplying:
https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

ElSudani:
I saw Negoland in your map. Where was that?

HydraFeeds:
I have been to the national museum in Benin city and Oranmiyan was written there as the first Oba . Even the current Oba of Benin publicly said it but the only addendum to your history is that Oduduwa is your lost /exiled prince .

cliffypatt:
Please calm down, he is entitled to his opinion, you can as well reply him without all the unnecessary words.