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princeade86:
so u telling me us just invaded a country and put president there to rule them or what.

That is the timeline of events:
1. Invade
2. Fight
3. Put in a puppet government
4. Lose the fight to the real government which you met when the fight started
5. Let fools who were born yesterday and are completely ignorant put an other spin to it.


If you want to talk about USA's intent, then you should be aware I'm not a native doctor, I don't read minds. I only see things which belong to the logical world.

I bet you didn't ever ask yourself which government was in place in Afghanistan when the USA started its invasion of the country: it was the Taliban!

GreatUniben:
America might be at work here! God bless America, my beloved and most intelligent country. Peace to the world.

At least don't drag the great name of Uniben in your disgraceful love affair for Bandera boys

princeade86:
ok grandpa. So the government Taliban over throw, what are they? They are not government abi. Taliban are like terrorist group and dictatorship which their citizens are regretting till now

Did you read what you are replying? If you did then why are you asking a question for which an answer is in the message which you are replying?

Stoplying:
The Taliban fought against a USA proxy, the USA invaded Afghanistan while the Taliban were the Afghan government and the war lasted more than 20 years. I bet you are too young to know the reality of that war which I saw starting when I was a teenager.

Point is: the Taliban were the government of Afghanistan, the USA was occupying Afghanistan and propping up a puppet government to fight against the real government which is the Taliban.

princeade86:
Taliban say hi to u. They fought government and won.

The Taliban fought against a USA proxy, the USA invaded Afghanistan while the Taliban were the Afghan government and the war lasted more than 20 years. I bet you are too young to know the reality of that war which I saw starting when I was a teenager.

Point is: the Taliban were the government of Afghanistan, the USA was occupying Afghanistan and propping up a puppet government to fight against the real government which is the Taliban.

Phraences:
I did. And i maintain they won't invade in the remote chance Mexico voluntarily and willingly decides to align itself with Russia.

Didn't the USA try to invade Cuba when Cuba joined a nuclear alliance with the USSR ?
You don't know what you are saying.

TobiAbuja:
Putin is fleeing to St Petersburg. You can almost feel the tears of confused Putin bots on this forum.

Some Russians aren't stupid or brainwashed, they can see first hand that this was one land grab too many by Putin.

And you know this because your little drawing told you so?

SangoOlukosoOba:
From Russia to Yoruba 🤣🤣🤣

Well you openly support Ukrainian Bandera boys, your ancestors were slaves and uncle Toms who sided with their white masters against fellow black people.
When the British were destroying my ancestors and our kingdom, you were with the British sheeting them on.
We were being destroyed and you were being rewarded.
Your people see colonisation as a blessing.

Moniya4Real:
I think the Russian government can end swiftly if the Russian Air Force could wipe out the entire Wagner bases and where they are now but civilian casualties would be enormous . Secondly, Russian ally, Belarus can also do the dirty job including the Chechnya leader supporting Putin. A 25k fighters of mercenaries are too thin to overrun Russia.

Russia wants to avoid killing it's own men and starting a fight against itself while it is already busy fighting a war against NATO in Ukraine.

SangoOlukosoOba:
He is only conducting a special military operation in Russsia against Nazis. 🤣🤣🤣

It is not surprising to see Yoruba supporting their western masters. Yoruba have always been slaves to the west. Your ancestors betrayed Africa and sided with the colonizers, you are only keeping up your family tradition

Raskimonojendor:
Russians are supporting Wagner over their corrupt government.

Don't believe all you read, NATO propagandists are taking the opportunity to spread lies and make sure the situation escalates

Raskimonojendor:
Caught his own side unawares.

Nobody expects to be stabbed in the back.
Prigojine's stupidity is greatly underrated.
Nobody in Russia thought he was this dumb.
Russia doesn't want to fight itself, that is why they are not killing Wagner right now. It would be stupid to start fighting yourself while you are actually in a war with NATO in Ukraine.

Most if these guys supporting Ukraine are bit if African descent. I think.

Raskimonojendor:
Wagner took 9 months to capture Bakhmut and 3 hours to capture Rostov.

Attacking your own side is easier than attacking the enemy.

Phraences:
Some people will leave the Nigerian government and be blaming UK our colonizers, US, Russia even China for their poverty. They will even add Israel as the cause of their problems.

So to you uk did us a favour by killing our ancestors and colonizing this part of Africa and leading us to the current corrupt government? Government in which the UK still has a lot of influence, by the way.

Phraences:
Na u be fool if you can't argue constructively without insults..

Again

Stoplying:
Can you read ?

People want to go to the west because they believe they can make money in the west and have a more than decent living condition in the west, it doesn't mean they love the west's politics.

I may want to do business with you, it doesn't mean I like you or everything you do, it only means I see opportunity to make good money with you.

Phraences:
Ancestors killed Ancestors. Both the oppressors and the oppressed are dead. Why don't Nigerians rush the visas of the non oppressors like Russia that didn't kill their Ancestors?. Dey play.

Can you read ?

Stoplying:
Was it Russia and China who killed our ancestors?
Wanting to go to a country in which you can make good money doesn't imply you love the politics of that country.
It is fools like you who mix business and politics.

People want to go to the west because they believe they can make money in the west and have a more than decent living condition in the west, it doesn't mean they love the west's politics.

Phraences:
I see some Nigerians supporting Russia and i laugh. Them no go rush Russia and China visa. Na Western countries visa dem dey rush.

Was it Russia and China who killed our ancestors?
Wanting to go to a country in which you can make good money doesn't imply you love the politics of that country.
It is fools like you who mix business and politics.

Landmine1:
From 3 day “special operation” to military coup within Russia. Almost impressive how terribly this has gone for Putin.

It is not about Putin but about Russia, but guys like you are hooked on NATO propaganda which is obsessed with president Putin.
You guys act as if Putin killed your mother

JohnBullMySon:
That cannot happen because the Ukrainian military is regimented. A mutinous officer would be replaced, arrested and court martialled immidiately. In fact, such a situation was avoided with the Azov battalion by integrating them into the army despite their record of human rights abuses. Also Ukraine is fighting under stronger morale and ideology unlike Russia.

Russia started the foolish game of equipping a private military outside their control. Play foolish games, win foolish prizes.

In your brain, were you responding to me ?
What is the logic of your response ? You totally deviated from what you are responding to:

Stoplying:
Well your bias is taking over your reasoning faculties.
Prigojine doesn't need to work for the defence ministry, he can very easily resign, he's just a civilian. He can as well sell his company...attacking his own side is the dumbest "solution" possible. There is no possible justification for this.

Since you support Ukraine and NATO, how would you feel if a unit of the Ukrainian military just started attacking the military of Ukraine for similar reasons as prigojine? Would you also feel it is the best course of action?
Think objectively, supporting Ukraine doesn't mean you should be stupid.

You are the one claiming that attacking your own side is justified, I asked you if you would also claim it were justified if an Ukrainian unit did it against Ukrain, and you deviated from responding by saying it can not happen in Ukraine.
I'm not asking if it can happen in Ukraine, I'm asking if you would support it if your own side attacks itself since you are claiming it is the best course of action for Russia's interests.

JohnBullMySon:
Nobody is wrong or right here. Those military generals treated him like shit. Do you know that after the brutal war in Khakiv and losing many of his men. He still had to plead for Russia to recognize his efforts that was not recognized in the official statement. It is obvious they wanted him to slave out for them.

Will since I support Ukraine, I hope they hold out each other till they deplete themselves completely.

Well your bias is taking over your reasoning faculties.
Prigojine doesn't need to work for the defence ministry, he can very easily resign, he's just a civilian. He can as well sell his company...attacking his own side is the dumbest "solution" possible. There is no possible justification for this.

Since you support Ukraine and NATO, how would you feel if a unit of the Ukrainian military just started attacking the military of Ukraine for similar reasons as prigojine? Would you also feel it is the best course of action?
Think objectively, supporting Ukraine doesn't mean you should be stupid.

BadMaster:
This must be giving you one hell of a pain, yeah? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Well Russia is fighting (against the west) the war which my ancestors fought against the same west and lost, I have sympathy for Russia's fight against the colonizers trying to colonize Russia. I'm disappointed in progojine's incredible stupidity.

In Russia's fight I see the fight of my precolonial country and its emperor.
I will never forget the pain of my ancestors.

JohnBullMySon:
When he was bearing the cross for Russia's infantry he wasn't an idiot then

Some of you folks just sit in your houses typing crap. Do you know or love Russia better than him?

I don't love Russia at all, but I don't need to love Russia to recognise a fool and a foolish action. Prigojine is a fool and what he has done to Russia is deserving of a death by hanging sentencing.

Prigojine, what an idiot.
Now NATO propagandists are spreading incredible lies which are being more believable due to progojine's actions.

Moniya4Real:
Neither side should be emulated.you guy’s contentious responses further shows Africans don’t have identities yet.. but come to think of it, do Africans really hip the fact that what the west and Arabs did in supplanting African history and identity to theirs is what Russia wants to do to Ukraine?

Ukraine is literally a combination of Russian land with polish land. At least 40% of Ukrainians identify as Russian and still speak Russian.
The people trying to destroy Ukrainian history are zelenski and NATO whom have banned the traditional church of Ukraine, Russian language, Russian litterature...
So you are saying complete rubbish.
If anything, NATO is trying to do to Russia what NATO's ancestors (the colonizers) did to Africa, the colonizers never changed their colonial mentality, Russian oil and gas are too sweet, NATO wants it for free just like Hitler did.

Faithful007:
Since the Ukranian parliament voted to remove him, the removal is legal.

Look, I don't have time to educate you, as it is I'm late on my work. I've already wasted so much time on nairaland. Believe what you want, since USA propaganda looks good to you, then by all means. I don't care.

Faithful007:
I hope you have pictures of the US troops in Ukraine "overthrowing the government"

Where did I say it involved USA troops?
USA has conducted many coups all around the world, none of them involved USA troops

I don't know if you are being ignorant or pretending to be

Faithful007:
I don't know how a constitutional parliament removing a president somehow becomes a US coup.

So you think that is what happened?
It seems you are a kid and was too young when the coup happened. But you can take a look at the videos which I already posted.

Faithful007:
Until much recently, the US was not in geopolitical tensions with any of the global powers. After 9/11, the focus was on terrorism and ISIS. US and Russia were at this point even collaborating in research, doing joint military exercises and even building the ISS together. Russia was not in any chaos then whatsoever.

After the Soviet breakup, Russia continued to meddle with the old bloc states using Wagner group and KGB to install leaders. It failed horribly as it caused some to join NATO from 2002 upwards. The US was busy fighting wars in the ME then. When they lost Ukraine in 2014, they went too far by annexing Crimea. Things spiraled out of control from that point.

So the USA overthrowing the government of Ukraine in 2014 was an act of kindness towards Russia ? That coup is not the problem but Russia's reaction to the coup is the problem ?
And I guess the continued existence and expansion of NATO to Russia's borders was an act of kindness from the USA to Russia?
You are basically just spewing USA propaganda.

Faithful007:
EU has always seen Russia as a threat more than US because Russia had aggressively tried to expand its political ambitions in Europe which most western European countries and former soviets absolutely do not want. That's why they all joined NATO, to make sure the US is on their side against Russia.

Your statements are extremely vague and unsubstantiated, I can't even address them because they are too vague.
Countries are joining NATO because the leaders are corrupt or too emotional (Sana Marin) or because the USA either bullied them or enticed them with economic prospects. It is not all about fear of Russia, for example France didn't join NATO for fear of Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROTwyP5no08

Faithful007:
The war in Ukraine is a bigger concern for Europe than the US. In fact, since 2014 there has been constant lobbying in DC for US support to Ukraine.

USA's Victoria newland while planning Ukrain coup in 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2XNN0Yt6D8

Bleep the EU she says

Faithful007:
Russia was not under any threat, NATO does not need Ukraine to end Russia. We already have borders with Russia (Finland alone doubles whatever borders Ukraine would have given) and US ICBMs can strike from the mainland.

Did you have those borders before the war ?
So you didn't need Ukrain to destroy Russia because you had future borders in Finland which you would only get after the war between Ukraine and Russia started ?
When reciting propaganda without making sense of it...

Faithful007:
The US relations with Russia was better than the entire Europe after the cold war.

Ok, such a subjective statement, but let's go into it, I guess you are talking about the 1990s when Russia was in complete chaos. I guess that is the state in which Russia needs to be in order to be in good terms with the USA. Also the USA even bragged of "helping" the Russian President of that era to become president in Russia.
So the conditions for Russia to be a good boy in the eyes of the USA is to be in chaos and to let the USA pick its leaders