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Also, I'm reading reports that the conference of chiefs of the western provinces was held at Benin city in 1937, not Oyo. That would make sense since the one of 1943 was held at oyo province.

When talking about history with Yoruba, the yoruba will come with fake documents and fairytales.

Christistruth03:
Stop lying stop lying
This came out in 1937

Look, you are wasting my time, I can also write a document and put 1937 on it and claim it was written in 1937.
You are supposed to give me a link to a reputable library's archives in which the library would give the date of publication.
You are just an uneducated 419, you can only fool illiterates.

I need authenticated documents, or documents with a trace which would allow me to authenticate them. What you are showing can be produced by anybody with a printer.

Show me a document from 1937 which has "conference of Yoruba chiefs as title"

Christistruth03:
The name is not fake it was called The Conference of Western Chiefs after it was later expanded to include.other rulers some years later

The 1937 Conference was the Conference of the Yoruba Chiefs

Your Not liking the Truth doesn't make the Truth fake

And to prove your point, you show me a Google search result which brought out one paper published in 2003 and an other one published in 2008 with "conference of Yoruba chiefs" as title?
Why are you dumb ?
I would expect a normal human being to produce a document written in 1937, not a document written in 2003 or 2008. How many times do we have to point your attention to the dates before it enters inside your head that you need to check the dates ?

Talking to this guy is like talking to a cow. I don't have time for this nonsense today.

Christistruth03:
You can also see that in the Last Document from 1937 the Ruler of Ipokia was called the Oba of Ipokia

1) your document is a fake, it is not from 1937.
2) As I said earlier, adesoji aderemi started the trend of Yoruba monarchs copying the title of the emperor of Benin in the 1930's

Christistruth03:
But I gave you proof that the Obatala dynasty of Kings that ruled Ife before Oduduwa were already using Oba before Oduduwa ruled Ife

The kings of Benin called Igodomigodo at that time were called Ogiso then

Here you go again, discussing fairytales:

1) obatala : fairytale
2) ogiso: fairytale
3) oduduwa: fairytale
4) igodimogodo: fairytale

Fairytales and fake documents, that is all you have produced. You are derailing a serious discussion about history with your fairytales and your fakes.

sotall:
Bros you are funny!

We say you should bring proof of Yoruba using Oba for their kings you are bringing 1937...

We didn't ask for modern proof. Stop playing

That document is a prime exemple of revisionism, the name of the conference held in 1937 didn't have the word Yoruba in it. That document was not written in 1937 contrary to what you have on the first page.
In other words, the document is a fake.

https://shop.memorylane.co.uk/mirror/1400to1499-01466/members-nigerian-government-conference-chiefs-21896697.html

The actual name of the conferences:

"Conference of chiefs of the western provinces"

So that document titled "conference of Yoruba chiefs 1937" is a fake.

sotall:
Being dated 1992, this paper you quoted is revisionism at best.

It is pure fairytale, that is what Yoruba do when people are discussing history, they just start talking about imaginary beings.

Christistruth03:
The Obatala dynasty of Kings ruled Ile Ife before Oduduwa defeated the last Obatala king

You again ...
Bring out a document written by a person who witnessed "obatala" or "oduduwa", or just shut up.
Stop parading with your fairytales when people are trying to discuss history.

otr1:
We have Ooni, Alafin, Awujale, Osamawe and the rest because the word "oba" is not a title, but a proper noun. All traditional rulers in Yorubaland are Obas because they "ba" on everything in their domain and that's why they have their specific names.
The word "Oba" has two syllables, O/ba. In Yoruba, the "O" means "the one", while the "ba" means "rules". That's why we say "Oba "ba" l'ori oun gbogbo which means, a King "rules" over everything.
The Binis most certainly adopted the name "Oba" as the title of their ruler from the Yorubas.
How can it be the other way round when we have people bearing Yoruba names inside Bini palace and some of their incantations being said in Yoruba words?
They don't know the meaning of Oba beyond being the title of their King.

You seem to think "Yoruba" languages are the same as Latin, look, your languages only started recently to have a written form, you therefore can't have this kind of analysis. What you did here is utter nonsense.
The first yoruba monarch to add the word "Oba" to his name was adesoji aderemi, it happened in the 1930's.
Oba is to Benin what king is to britain and what Roi is to France and what Alafin is to oyo.

The words "friend" and "foe" are not originally British words, they came from the Vikings, but today they are part of the British lexicon and have meanings un English...languages change over time, the fact you are used to a certain word today and have attributed a meaning to it does not imply that that word was originally from your language !

DaBullIT:
Wikipedia IA your friend

Unbiased, editable and can be accessed by millions

Wikipedia is not a reference.
It is common people who write Wikipedia and the content on many fields are erroneous. On the field of African history, Wikipedia is full of rubbish.

It is not about how you feel or how you prefer things to have been, it is about proof and reality.
But lack of education in Nigeria makes fools think they know it all, then they start creating their own version of history based on their feelings. But guys, history is not about your feelings, it is about eyewitness written records.

You don't even need to be that educated to know how important Benin was, just ask yourself where Benin Republic got its name from.

https://uniquemaps.eu/fr/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia?adg_id=&cmp_id=18827197097&device=m&gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4s-kBhDqARIsAN-ipH2QEMZ7tnAIrAR1ZjxJzVbVbXSaWDvyECML2AYmtBbwhfUWv8Z_kEUaAodnEALw_wcB&kwd=&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&variant=42258880299238

Also, in the whole of west Africa, there is only one kingdom which has more than 30 billion dollars worth of artefacts, guess what kingdom that is: Benin empire !
Don't get fooled by the fact we now live under the same flag, Benin is above the rest and always has been.

caleboxylic:
Nonsense. The last kingdom after some many kingdoms in west Africa is claiming everybody. The so called bini people no reach a senatorial district in Nigeria. Tell us your market days, tell us how you influenced those you claimed are your descendants. Tell us why and how ordinary igala defeated your so called warriors and seized the bronze from your palace that attah of igala wears till date.? Tell us how you counted your days,months and years before the coming of white man and how you influenced your so called descendant with it.

What people like you don't know is that literate people have been visiting our region since the 1400's and they wrote what they saw, so no need to debate, just check the records written by eyewitnesses. Guess what, those favour the Benin claim:

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b532480518/f1.item.zoom
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714

When people like you talk baselessly with their feelings, I just show proof and tell them to deal with reality.

WrriterNig:
⚡🇺🇦 Ukrainian President Zelensky alleges that Russia is contemplating a terrorist attack on the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.

The Kremlin dismisses the Ukrainian claim of 🇷🇺 Russia planning a "terror attack" at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant as "yet another falsehood."

I guess zelenski has the magical power to read the mind of Russia, or perhaps it is zelenski whom has planned a terrorist attack on the Russian occupied powerplant.

Procashtips:
You mean EU wants to tell 3rd world countries not to sell to Russia?

The way the EU just decided to sacrifice itself for USA's proxy war is mind boggling. The EU is in recession now, EU industries depend on Russian cheap oil and gaz, those industries are dying now...
As a citizen of a EU country, I can only cry.
The whites have all gone crazy for Ukraine poop.

okeysoninv:
because he is not agreeing to your propaganda. he is now an idiot. ok cont. meanwhile , let Ukraine cont. doing Lord's work ..multi polar world lolz. one world government is on effective .it remaining zombie china to start his own in Taiwan. una go get sense by force.

I didn't notice it was you I was responding to.
What a mistake, you are a complete fool. No need to talk with you. I will pay more attention before I respond to a comment henceforth.

okeysoninv:
una go get sense small small I thought putard said counteroffensive has failed hahahaha

Prigoghin is an idiot, stop listening to his rantings against the Russian military command which he hates and competes with.
I don't understand why prigoghin has not been arrested yet, eventhough he's a civilian, he's too close to the military to be doing all this.

WrriterNig:
⚡Two people are missing and seven are in a critical condition after a large explosion in the Latin Quarter of central 🇫🇷 Paris, police have said.

At least 30 people are injured in total after the blast set buildings on fire, left rubble strewn across a street, and sent a plume of black smoke across the French capital.

Only the rich live in that area

WrriterNig:
⚡🍁 Canadian Department of National Defence confirms two Royal Canadian Air Force members were killed in helicopter crash.

A Chinook helicopter crashed into the Ottawa River with four people on board during an early morning training flight Tuesday.

This is how they will report the death of their soldiers in Ukraine, they will say something like "helicopter crash within a NATO country or accident"

loyedammy:
You dull whalai, I watch CNN/aljazera(western propaganda) but you watch Russia channel propaganda, so who is gullible ? Guy we both are been fed.
Let me also inform you that NATO is not yet in this war. America gave loans to Ukraine inform of weapons which will be paid, so Russia has no standing ground to attack the west but if you think Russia is wasting time you can join join RA or Wagner so Ukraine will be defeated on time

I do not have access to Russian channels, I live in a NATO country and I have a functioning brain.

1) Kaliningrad is a part of Russia, how can a part of Russia have boundaries with Russia?
2) Taiwan was a part of China then a civil war took place in China, the PRC defeated the RC on mainland China and the RC retreated to Taiwan, that is how Taiwan and mainland China got seperated. It has nothing to do with the USA or japan.
3) the UN, the USA and most countries on earth recognise Taiwan as a part of China, but the USA is being strategically hypocritical by trying to "encourage" Taiwan to declare independence from China and become an official USA colony.

loyedammy:
Democracy is a game of numbers, UN is a game of numbers. Is Indonesia fifa or UEFA or any sporting bodies ? That it had the right to ban a team ? And it is only right to move the competition to another place. Let us all be objective even if you love what Russia is doing.

Away from this, I believe Russia Ukraine war is at a stalemate now, the collective west would not want this and would loan more weapon to Ukraine. Ukraine is the biggest loser Russia is the second loser in the scheme of things because they might just end up like the formal Soviet union if it does not find a way to win or withdraw immediately.

Bleep all of them and their war and let's prepare for the aliens

"Democracy is a game of numbers" I swear Nigerians just like repeating this sentence because they think it makes them look smart, the sentence actually has no meaning, the people who keep repeating this don't understand what a number is nor what a game is.


Russia-Ukraine(NATO) war is only a stalemate in the heads of people whom are victims of NATO propaganda, Russia is crushing Ukraine and NATO by proxy very hard. Right now the EU is in recession due to its stupid sanctions against Russia, Germany is even deindustrialising.
You need to stop believing what you see on CNN and other NATO propaganda channels (western media and its affiliates). Russia's economy has bounced back and is now among the ten greatest economies in the world.

Russia disintegration like the Soviet Union is just NATO and Ukraine's wet dream which they keep projecting as a reality through their propaganda. This war is going very badly for NATO and its proxy (Ukraine). NATO is running out of weapons !

You are basically just a repeat machine with not much thought of your own. You repeat sentences like "democracy is a game of numbers" because you heard it and think saying it makes you look smart, then you repeat NATO propaganda as if it made you "knowledgeable" and smart and as if it were the conclusion of your reasoning. You are just a repeat machine, a tape recorder. You have no intelligence.

WrriterNig:
⚡Climate activist Greta Thunberg arrested in 🇸🇪 Sweden.

She's not being arrested, she's performing, the police are there as accessory.
When me and you get arrested, there is no camera, no news paper and we are cuffed and beaten up by several policemen.

Is this "world news" or "Israel news" ?
I'm done, just change the name and continue with your Israeli propaganda.

Masterviolence:
In the western world if you preach masculinity to men an femininity to women you're digging your own grave.
They want men to be weak while promoting femininity.
More like switching traits, men becoming feminine and women becoming masculine.
Come to California and see for yourself, if you're not careful enough you might end up in a relationship with male thinking he was a female. To me this enforcement of LGBTQI+ is demonic.

🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2KsZHRrFpU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_u1OTgD14A

Procashtips:
Anything to destroy this guy with.

When the world wants you, pray!

Being successful with women has its cost.
You see women like to go after the same man, they just chose one man in the community, all the women of the community want that same man and no other man.
That gives that man leverage over the women and then the women who don't get what they want, set their minds on destroying that man. Then you will see them withdrawing consent for sex, after the sex has already taken place (the fact they gave consent before the act doesn't matter, a woman can withdraw consent at any time, even after the thing has already happened 🤡)
That is our world. Also, believe all women 🤡

HolinessForever:
The Biden administration has evidence Russia will use nuclear weapons against the collective west.

The statement comes shortly after Moscow deployed its nuclear warheads in neighboring Belarus. 

So it's ok for the USA to deploy nuclear weapons in NATO countries but it's not ok for Russia to deploy nuclear weapons in countries allied to Russia?

WrriterNig:
⚡🇺🇸 Hunter Biden has agreed with federal prosecutors to plead guilty to two minor tax crimes and admit to a gun charge under terms that would likely keep him out of jail, according to WaPo.

I guess some people are more equal than others.