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Let me get this:
1) it's ok to ban Russian sports teams from international competitions, it is even seen as a good thing
2) it is not ok to ban Israeli sports team from international competition, it is even considered extremism and hatred

HolinessForever:
After losing hosting rights for FIFA U-20 World Cup, Indonesia will now lose hosting rights for World Beach Games over its refusal to accept Israeli teams.

It's quite ridiculous that 100% of Indonesians that hate Israel have never been to Israel. Indonesia is plagued by radicalism. I pray this will change. 🇮🇱🇮🇩

( Hananya )

But banning Russian teams from FIFA world cup and other sports competitions is ok, right ?
I love how hypocrites don't see their hypocrisy.

Tiopii:
Russia that can't even guarantee their own soldiers safety 😂😂😂

Can the USA guarantee its soldiers' safety ?
Can you guarantee your body guard's safety ?

Hotice085:
Man you are extremely DUMB

That's your perspective, now answer my question.
Also, I think "extremely" is not precise enough, tell me with more precision how dumb I am, numbers exist for a reason.

stanluiz:
Nice one from Abrahimovic. We Chelsea fans really miss you.

If UK government like. Let them sieze the money. It won't stop Russia from Annihilating Ukraine silently and painfully.

I think the UK will be legally forced to give the money back at some point.
I don't see how international legal system can survive if some countries are allowed to just go into the accounts of people based on the nationality of the people and take their money and give it to someone else.
The UK has always been a thieving nation, even the Oba's bronzes are still in the British museum where the British still pride themselves on how good they were at taking other people's property without consent.
But today, British old tactics will not survive, and one day they will reconcile with Russia, and then Ibrahimovic will be asking for his money back.

WrriterNig:
⚡The Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of 🇺🇦 Ukraine, Valeriy Zaluzhny, stated that the counteroffensive is continuing according to plan.

If the plan was to be bleeped in the a** then yea, the plan is working.

Hotice085:
Your village that contributed greatly to slave trade and the headquarters of colonial power

Where was your ifa and Oracle then?
Mr know something that doesn't know anything

Not a fan of "ifa" and other Yoruba stupidities, but it seems silly to blame a person's religion for the person's misfortune.
Don't forget that Ankara used to be a Christian city before the Muslims conquered it, where was Jesus during that war ?

An other question: what was slave trade in the perspective of Africans back then ?

President Putin said that Ukraine signed the peace deal and went against it afterwards. The western media is just full of lies these days. This fake translation of what the Russian President said doesn't even make sense.

Oduduwa is a character in a fairytale.

If it is determined that after defeating Ukraine Russia will attack a country which is part of the NATO alliance (proof never given, of course), then what is the point of having Finland join NATO ? What is the point of trying to have Sweden join NATO ? What was the point of trying to put Ukraine in NATO ? What is the point of NATO ?
Why are these same guys saying Russia wouldn't have dared attacking Ukraine if Ukraine had been allowed to join NATO before the war ?

Kingsnairaland:
Clown your men are already in Ukraine fighting and losing.

It is the same guys who keep saying that Russia wouldn't have dared attack Ukraine if Ukraine had been allowed to join NATO.
Their logic is always fuzzy.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Fake history that can't change original history and position of ur oba

Position in a sitting arrangement in a group photo with prince Charles? 🤡
History, backed by eyewitness written record is fake ? 🤡

All those reading this on the side, why don't you inform this deluded teenager that he needs to take his meds ?

TOPMAN4LIFE:
My last word to you and those that argue blindly on this subject matter is that where ooni sits, your oba must be behind him or else he stays back at home

It seems that all you have is a sitting arrangement in a group photo with prince Charles 🤡
I'm giving you history, while you are talking about a sitting arrangement for a group photo ?

TOPMAN4LIFE:
My last word to you and those that argue blindly on this subject matter

How am I arguing blindly if I am providing evidence?
You are the one whom is providing no evidence and whom has been shown several times to not have any knowledge about history.

You don't understand that Benin Kingdom had that name serveral hundreds of years before there was any such thing as Benin republic, and I'm the blind one?

TOPMAN4LIFE:
I don't have ur time again, the other time, you said I should show you when Bini was changed to Benin, l did

I asked for date and proof, you provided me with a Yoruba fairytale written on the internet which claims that Benin used to be called Ubini before 1441.
You provided no proof, rather just a claim made on the internet just like your own claim. Where is the document written by an eyewitness which backs the claim?

Imagine someone tells you that your house inherited from your dad belongs to him and then you ask for proof but he replies you should get the proof yourself while telling you to vacate the house 🤡
That is why, people need to prove their own claims and not expect the other side to prove it for them.
I'm guessing you are a teenager.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Everything is on internet, l can't waste time to provide you what you can do for yourself,
Google is ur friend if you are confused

Once again, your logic only helps liars. People are supposed to prove their claims, you are not supposed to expect me to prove your claim for you, especially if I don't believe in your claim. I can't be going on a wild goose chase.
It is very simple, don't claim what you can't prove.
If you claim something, then be ready to provide proof on demand.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Maybe that bight of Benin is for Benin republic of Cotonou

So the person who drew the map in the 1600's did a time travel from the 1600s to the 1970's, saw Dahomey being named "Republic of Benin" then he traveled back to the 1600's and named the bight after the future Benin Republic ? 🤡

TOPMAN4LIFE:
There is also bight of Bonny in River State, and there is a town called Bonny in River State,

Look, you are talking in a void, provide Precolonial maps.
Also just for your information, Rivers state is not a Precolonial state. You are very confused.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
The word 'bight' is not important in this matter, the word only means curve or bend which is used for some coastal location around city close to the ocean, so you can't see something like bight of ife because ife is not by the Coastlines

So now Benin city is "by the coastlines" ? 🤡

So let me see if I get this right:

1) I provide documents made by eyewitnesses hundreds of years ago, and that makes me a liar.
2) this Yoruba provides a page on Google written by people whom are still alive today and are probably in their 30's, this page talks about the 1400's and that makes this Yoruba a truth teller ?

3) the lesson is that if you provide proof for what you say (which I did) then you are a liar, but if you have no proof for your claims (like this Yoruba guy) then you are a truth teller 🤡

From an other map maker in an other language:

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b532480518/f1.item.zoom

TOPMAN4LIFE:
This thing you are showing here is not for ur own Bini but for Benin republic our neighboring country with Cotonou as capital city
Stop spreading falsehood

🤣
Ok, it seems clear you can't read maps or dates.

1) This is clearly Benin kingdom not Benin Republic
2) this map was drawn in the 1600's when there was no such thing as Benin Republic
3) even Benin city is clearly situated in the map and it is the capital of Benin kingdom.

Your ignorance is at a very high level.

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b/f1.item.r=Benin.zoom

TOPMAN4LIFE:
All what u have been are lies,
U that claimed republic of Benin is for Bini in Edo

Stoplying:
This has already been debated several times, but it seems we keep seeing Yoruba people trying to start the debate right from the beginning.
Look, we can't continue having the same argument until we die !
For more than ten years, there is always a Yoruba who reopens this already settle matter.

1) Ife was built in 1912 by the British, previously it was just a small and impoverished settlement.
2) Benin was already an empire in the 1400s
3) locate Bight of Ife or bight of oyo (I can locate Bight of Benin)
4) locate Ife Republic or oyo Republic (I can locate Benin Republic)
5) the word Oba is the official title of the Oba of Benin, just like the word Oni is the official title of the Oni of Ife
6) around 1930, Oni adesoji aderemi who was previously referred to as "Oni of Ife, sir adesoji aderemi" changed his name to "Oni of Ife, Oba adesoji aderemi", therefore copying the title of the Benin emperor as a replacement to a British nobility word (sir). From there on all Yoruba monarchs copied the word "Oba" into their name, it became a trend, just like many other things with yoruba culture of copy and paste.
7) your concept of "Yorubaland" is not historical, 200 years ago, many of those lands you now call "Yorubaland" didn't identify as such
8 ) many monarchs who now identify as Yoruba have been involved over the decades in changing their original titles, for example the "olubadan" used to be the "bale of Ibadan"
9) every kingdom which was originally ruled by a person with the Olu title used to be part of Benin empire
10) please before opening such a debate, just take a look at what has already been said on the topic right here on nairaland. The reason people are not engaging you Yoruba when you open this debate again and again and again is that we are starting to think you are only doing this to generate traffic. How can people just keep opening the same debate over and over for decades ?

It seems you want to create an argument and you throw the same bates all the time. Look, why don't you guys find some other people to talk about ? Why always Benin ? It is like all Yoruba were born into this world to talk about Benin. Your obsession with proving your superiority to Benin only proves your inferiority complex.

I know in some months time or perhaps even less, an other Yoruba will reopen the debate and ignore facts and what was said previously. I think Yoruba should just focus on themselves and stop yapping about Benin all the time !

I'm pretty sure that numbers 3 and 5 are obviously true to anybody whom is not completely uneducated.
So I have just debunked your claim very easily.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
U that claimed republic of Benin is for Bini in Edo

What do you mean by "republic of Benin is for Bini in Edo" ?

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Are you not seeing it

Where is the document which you are quoting ?
When was the document written?
Who wrote the document?

You basically quoted a fairytale written on the internet.
Let me explain to you how history research is done:
1) you look for documents which were written by eyewitnesses
2) you need to know the date of publication of the documents
3) knowing the author is a plus.

Given how you reason, I can deduce that you are a kid. Let me inform you that not everything written in the internet is true. If you look closely then you will see that the person who wrote what you quoted wrote it with a computer, that person is probably still alive, that person certainly did not witness the 1400s.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Just hold on, l am trying to upload, l thought it has uploaded that is why I said read for yourself, don't think u can feed anyone with lies without exposing you

Where is the document which you are quoting ?
When was the document written?
Who wrote the document?

You basically quoted a fairytale written on the internet.
Let me explain to you how history research is done:
1) you look for documents which were written by eyewitnesses
2) you need to know the date of publication of the documents
3) knowing the author is a plus.

Given how you reason, I can deduce that you are a kid. Let me inform you that not everything written in the internet is true. If you look closely then you will see that the person who wrote what you quoted wrote it with a computer, that person is probably still alive, that person certainly did not witness the 1400s.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Just hold on, l am trying to upload, l thought it has uploaded that is why I said read for yourself, don't think u can feed anyone with lies without exposing you

What lies have I told ?
Point to a lie which I told.
Is it my question for the dates which is a "lie" ?

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Read for yourself

The problem with your "logic" is that any person can make up a lie and when asked for proof, he just tells you to "read for yourself".
In your case, you make an incomplete claim, you are unable to complete it, and you expect me to not only complete it, but to prove it for you 🤡
I'm still waiting for the dates in which we were "known to be Bini" and the date we "changed it" according to your claim. I am also waiting for proof. Meanwhile:

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b532480446/f1.item.zoom#