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TOPMAN4LIFE:
Use your google and you will see Bini all over,
You changed it to modernize the name just like eko was changed to Lagos.

Look, provide the dates. You make the claim that we "used to be known as Bini and changed it", you provide no date as to when we were known as "Bini" and no date as to when we "changed it", yet you want me to go through Google and provide the date for you and also provide proof for you...
Is this how you imagined debates took place ? You thought you didn't have to make precise claims and the other side would help you make your claims more precise and also help you to prove your own incomplete claims? 🤣
Just say you were wrong. You probably know it by now that you know nothing about history.

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2

These Yoruba guys think history is transmitted through DNA.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
You were known to be Bini before you changed it,

Look, I'm smarter and more educated than you, and you are wrong on the topic. That is the origin of your current frustration.
When were we known to be "Bini" and when did we "change it". Provide dates and proof.

"The problem in this world is that smart people are full of doubts whereas dumb people are full of confidence"

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2

TOPMAN4LIFE:
You people like to lie to yourself, bight of Benin and republic of Benin is for our neighboring country called Benin republic with capital Cotonou,

"The problem in this world is that smart people are full of doubts whereas dumb people are full of confidence"

1) Benin kingdom appears on Precolonial maps (even from the 1400s)
2) Bight of Benin appears in Precolonial maps (from the 1400s)
3) Benin Republic was only named as such in the 1970s, it was previously known as Dahomey.

You guys who call yourselves "Yoruba", you know nothing about history and you just keep jumping around repeating your uneducated beliefs with fanatism just like boko haram repeats that the earth is flat.
When I correct one of you with logic, he insults me and some times goes away (sometimes continues in his delusion). One thing is for sure, not long after, an other Yoruba comes with the exact same claims and ignores whatever was said previously on the topic.
Giving knowledge to you guys seems pointless, like trying to empty a river by drinking it's water.

Why are so many Yoruba this ignorant, you guys are fed with fairytales which seem to talk about Benin a lot and seems to make Ife the centre of the world, but actual history, you know none of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4gzsjdLo9U

TheFreshVanilla:
I'm disappointed. So most of our traditional beliefs are scam. Only created to control gullible masses.

What tradition beliefs are you talking about ?
I personally don't have beliefs, I double check everything.

TOPMAN4LIFE:
Continue to deceive yourself, even your oba of Benin knows ooni is above him.
How many traditional rulers are under oba of Benin kingdom compare to the large number of obaship kingdoms under ooni in Yoruba land,
If Benin is not from Yoruba, they will not be using oba title that belongs to Yoruba and you people will not use words that are taking from Yoruba,
Even Yoruba obas from Benin republic admitted they are from Yoruba and ife.
Yoruba even extends as far as itshekri and that is why they too have some of their words similar to Yoruba, for example the title 'Olu' of itshekri was taken from Yoruba land because many traditional rulers in Yoruba use it like Olu ilaro, Olu Ibadan, Olu Iwo etc
There is no how you lie, ooni is the head .
The traditional rulers concerned know this and they know their individual place when government is dealing with them

This has already been debated several times, but it seems we keep seeing Yoruba people trying to start the debate right from the beginning.
Look, we can't continue having the same argument until we die !
For more than ten years, there is always a Yoruba who reopens this already settle matter.

1) Ife was built in 1912 by the British, previously it was just a small and impoverished settlement.
2) Benin was already an empire in the 1400s
3) locate Bight of Ife or bight of oyo (I can locate Bight of Benin)
4) locate Ife Republic or oyo Republic (I can locate Benin Republic)
5) the word Oba is the official title of the Oba of Benin, just like the word Oni is the official title of the Oni of Ife
6) around 1930, Oni adesoji aderemi who was previously referred to as "Oni of Ife, sir adesoji aderemi" changed his name to "Oni of Ife, Oba adesoji aderemi", therefore copying the title of the Benin emperor as a replacement to a British nobility word (sir). From there on all Yoruba monarchs copied the word "Oba" into their name, it became a trend, just like many other things with yoruba culture of copy and paste.
7) your concept of "Yorubaland" is not historical, 200 years ago, many of those lands you now call "Yorubaland" didn't identify as such
8 ) many monarchs who now identify as Yoruba have been involved over the decades in changing their original titles, for example the "olubadan" used to be the "bale of Ibadan"
9) every kingdom which was originally ruled by a person with the Olu title used to be part of Benin empire
10) please before opening such a debate, just take a look at what has already been said on the topic right here on nairaland. The reason people are not engaging you Yoruba when you open this debate again and again and again is that we are starting to think you are only doing this to generate traffic. How can people just keep opening the same debate over and over for decades ?

It seems you want to create an argument and you throw the same bates all the time. Look, why don't you guys find some other people to talk about ? Why always Benin ? It is like all Yoruba were born into this world to talk about Benin. Your obsession with proving your superiority to Benin only proves your inferiority complex.

I know in some months time or perhaps even less, an other Yoruba will reopen the debate and ignore facts and what was said previously. I think Yoruba should just focus on themselves and stop yapping about Benin all the time !

WrriterNig:
⚡"The more territory 🇺🇦 Ukraine controls," the better cards it will have at the negotiating table," NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said in an interview with 🇩🇪 Welt am Sonntag.

The problem with this type of logic is that Russia could also think the same way and then the negotiations would never happen since both sides can not be having most of the land at the same time...

The Iranian government is elected into office, but gets called a "regime" whereas the Arabian government is just a family "Saud" which the British gave a crown to after taking the Arabian peninsula away from the ottoman.
But the Arabian government is not called "regime".

Well it doesn't really matter, but the Arabs and the Iranians should not let the west and israel divide them.
I don't see any winner or loser in the picture of Qasim saga, the west just wants to overblow it in order to make both countries fight each other.
Iran and Saudi Arabia, do not take the bate !

Copy and pasting "news" without giving credit to the news outlets you got the news from is not different from theft.
Some guys over here want to pretend to be journalists while all they do is copy and past without giving credit to the actual news outlets which produced the content.

All I wish to any Zionist is that what Europeans did to Palestine (after previously committing a genocide on European jews,) shall also happen to the Zionists so that they can have a better perspective. Let's see how fun it is to be chased away from your granddad's home and have people from Europe take it over while claiming God gave it to them.
Also imagine the prime victimizer of the European Jews (Germany) joining the European Jews as if they were best friends and at the same time nobody cares about the new chosen victim (Palestinians).
Karma will hit hard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjfANudnZA

There should be a law for a minimum degree requirement to post on social media. Because as it is, social media has become an eco chamber of the stupidest elements of the world, unfortunately the latter make up more than 70% of the world's population.
And in a gathering of idiots, signs of intelligence are interpreted as hérésie.

Shma2023:
A normal person outside BLACK-NEGROs(majority of whom were enslaved from Ghana - In UK and US) , won't know sh*t about Ghana .

You've taken your ignorance to a new level. Why are there so many brain dead guys like you on this website ?

vaxx:
A reputable organization called brand finance says Ghana is more influential than Nigeria . I didn't say so . So don't be too stupid to fight the organization and not vaxx.

Your second paragraph is actually from your anus not your brain anyway .

This is a global soft power index for 2023 ....

Nigeria is a nation which eats itself rather than grow food for its people. It's a big chaotic country with no aim to improve, Nigerians are only interested in having their turn at carving the national cake, they are not interested in baking new cakes. In 400 years, Nigeria would have become a jungle. I tell you.

When I was younger I thought that Africans were mentally strong enough to not be swayed by propaganda. Well I was wrong, today you have Africans (mostly Nigerians) who worship Israel, America, the EU, and now Ukraine...
Nigerians are the least equipped to fend off propaganda, especially western propaganda.

rvp2018:
Stupid ANC Ramaphosa find himself in trouble in north pole as his security is blocked by Poland. Now he is been told to enter Ukraine alone

What is wrong with some of these African leaders.

Peace envoy in Ukraine after covertly and overtly backing Putin. Ramaphosa will be lucky not be shot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQDC9NzEkc

So you think Poland is the north pole ?
🤣 Kids

Uprightness100:
🚨BREAKING: Whistleblower who exposed the ‘Biden bribery scheme’ has been found dead.

(GeneralMCNews)

Provide a link, information needs to be vetted, stop expecting people to just trust you, you are not special.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek77_C_ME7Q
News on Ukrainian offensive

VictorUSA15:
You wait and see what will happen.

By the time America seal its dominance via sapientic means and the failure of all anti-US nations becomes uncontested, you will realize how you have been fooling yourself.

Since you are a time traveler and came from the future to tell us what you saw 🤣
Yeah, you talk with no substance, but you remind me of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-oJTZ1b5Q

Zaha:
pls stop giving that idiot and fake pastor attention, he isn't worth it.

Thanks for the sound advise.

Masterviolence:
Experience is the best teacher, let him learn.
At the end of the day i expect him to lose some brain cells .

You guys are right, Nairaland seems to have a lot of guys like @okeysoninv though, extremely delusion and time consuming people. Thank God there are people like you on nairaland who give sound advise.

Masterviolence:
of course they won't be fooled.

Let us hope that you are right.

okeysoninv:
my point is that hypersonic failed already, cruise missiles failed, ballistic missiles failed. Patriot defense system is a top-notch

If by "hypersonic missiles failed", you mean that hypersonic missiles succeeded in hitting each of the targets assigned to them (without having to send more than one missile per target) then you would be right.

okeysoninv:
so Russia haven't used hypersonic missiles before in Kiev?

Russia has used hypersonic missiles in Kiev before, please go directly to your point, I can't read minds

okeysoninv:
oya bring out evidence of Kiev bombardment by hypersonic or you shut up forever.

Hypersonic missiles are the most expensive missiles which Russia has, so they are not used anyhow.

Masterviolence:
This agreement is meaningless.
It's like telling iran to stop pursuing her nuclear program for financial benefits.

I believe iran is not stupid enough to follow this path. it's not only absurd to think Iran with accept this but hilarious too.

The USA, just like Nazi germany, doesn't implement its international agreements. I don't see the point of going into a long term international agreement with the USA, because even before the signing of the agreement, the USA already has plans ready to go around the agreement. Iran should not be fooled.

okeysoninv:
if you have been following Ukraine war seriously you won't have a doubt about Patriot. The defense missile was too good that Russia has to abandon massive strike in Kiev to other region. Patriot is a game changer . No propaganda can change that

You think you are following the war, but you are only following the USA/NATO/Ukraine propaganda.

okeysoninv:
hypersonic is not a big deal even old Patriot missile has intercepted it before. so nothing can stop David string or the new sky Sonic from intercepting it.

Do you know how the patriot anti-missile intercepted the hypersonic missiles? It did the interception by:
1) being the target of the hypersonic missile.
2) getting hit by the hypersonic missile in the position intended by the operator of the hypersonic missile.

If you are Michael Jordan's body guard then when Michael Jordan's ennemies come and beat you up, you can legitimately claim to have intercepted the number of blows which you took to the face. It doesn't matter if you were the intended target.

Don't argue with a fool, and calling @christistruth s fool is an insult to fools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8PYb28ULHQ

Christistruth03:
Yoruba History is not Rubbish

That is why you get trashed all the time

So where did you say you were from again?

You are delusional.
You confuse fairytales with history, what you call "Yoruba history" is just a bunch of fairytales. And you ignore proof which shows you are wrong.
I don't need to claim any ethnicity, logic and knowledge has nothing to do with one's ethnicity.

Christistruth03:
The Popos Kingdom is a Yoruba Kingdom and the Oba of Badagry wears an Ife beaded Crown you can check it out on his head


So you are calling Egun People who arrived in Lagos in the 17th Century as guests of the Awori Oba the Alapa of Apa Migrants ?

Yorubas don't call them Migrants because their Journey began at Ile Ife with the Olupopo who was Oduduwa's Son

Where did you say you were from again ?

We are talking about history and as usual the Yoruba guy starts talking about fairytales like oduduwa and unsubstantiated migration from Ife. Ife which was only built up in 1912 by the British (being a small settlement previous to 1912).
Have you ever cared to show actual proof for your claims ? Is it just your fanaticism which you want to share ? If you don't know anything about history then perhaps you should stop debating history. And stop contradicting proven facts.