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Christistruth03:
Yebous is Ijebu

It was the Ijebu that successfully drove Benin from Lagos and took over
And that was even before the 18th Century

I challenge you to show us any Ancestral Land in Lagos Belonging to the Oba of Benin

Who to his Credit has never for even once dragged Lagos with the Yorubas or disputed Yoruba ownership of Lagos

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ogunijebu18:
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ogunijebu18:
The oba of Lagos is a king not a duke. You’ve been exposed. And he traces origin to awori tribe. Edo are not Lagos

Stoplying:
Eyewitness writen precolonial text stating clearly that Lagos belongs to Benin:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x.r=Y%C3%A9bou?rk=21459;2

Precolonial map of the region showing that Lagos (in its currents form) and its environs were part of Benin (see below)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2


Conclusion: Lagos and its environs were part of Benin.

I am not interested in debating things which have already been proven. Also I am not interested in talking to people whom have been harrassing me. (I also want to add that I am actually the only person whom has commented here who actually speaks french and that I am the person who posted the french caption and the book from which it is to nairaland. Some delusional people who don't speak a word of frecnh were trying to "debate" me on the translation of the text several months ago. Fools can only fool other fools.)

ogunijebu18:
Yes that’s why I wrote MODERN Ogun state if you could read.

ogunijebu18:
Before that it was ijebu awori egun who are the Lagos people.

ogunijebu18:
If it was part of Benin kingdom then why do they have their own king?

ogunijebu18:
The true lagosian are Yoruba. Not Benin. Benin are indigenous to Benin city not Lagos. My ijebu people were there before those people. You say the British took it from them like it was ever theirs in the first place. Benin was never an empire just arrogant idiots online spreading false history. The British empire was a real empire that’s why we’re speaking English right now. Benin are nothing. What is the meaning of Benin? No lagosian claims they’re from Benin. Some claim root to fishermen in modern Ogun and some say they fled from republic of Benin. No one says there from Benin (Edo)

ogunijebu18:
I’m not a fanatic. YOU ARE. Even the British called the Lagos people Yoruba. You’re just making things up. You won’t say it offline I bet. We don’t speak Edo in Lagos

ogunijebu18:
It was never part of Benin.

ogunijebu18:
If it was they wouldn’t be Yorubas and speak Yoruba but Edo. It was never Benin.

ogunijebu18:
The British colonized Benin city so are their indigenous now British. That’s how dumb you sound

ogunijebu18:
Yorubas were always there. No one else was there before Yorubas. They don’t have any other culture language name that’s not Yoruba. Learn respect. The lagosian people are Yoruba

gambolistic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZGxyimgGtY

Watch and learn

Stoplying:
1) contrary to your belief, the British are not gods.
2) the Precolonial map which I posted predates the British taking Lagos from Benin.
3) after the British took Lagos from Benin, they flooded it with American and European freed slaves and local slaves also migrated into Lagos.
4) once again, Yoruba is not a people but a Precolonial country also known as oyo kingdom.
5) the first mention of Yoruba is from 1808, all these different people who originate from slavery have decided to call themselves Yoruba, that is what explains Yoruba presence in Lagos.
6) migration into Lagos never stopped right from when the British took it over from Benin, it is still ongoing today.
7) it seems you have difficulties understanding, let me be even clearer: when the British took over Lagos, it was a part of Benin, it's people were by definition, Benin people or shall I say Edo. The British didn't take Lagos from Ife, they took it from the Oba of Benin !

ogunijebu18:
You are the one who can’t accept fact. It’s really disrespectful to the indigenous Lagos people what you’re trying to spread when the truth is clear. A simple documentary about Lagos would clear your mind

Stoplying:
1) contrary to your belief, the British are not gods.
2) the Precolonial map which I posted predates the British taking Lagos from Benin.
3) after the British took Lagos from Benin, they flooded it with American and European freed slaves and local slaves also migrated into Lagos.
4) once again, Yoruba is not a people but a Precolonial country also known as oyo kingdom.
5) the first mention of Yoruba is from 1808, all these different people who originate from slavery have decided to call themselves Yoruba, that is what explains Yoruba presence in Lagos.
6) migration into Lagos never stopped right from when the British took it over from Benin, it is still ongoing today.
7) it seems you have difficulties understanding, let me be even clearer: when the British took over Lagos, it was a part of Benin, it's people were by definition, Benin people or shall I say Edo. The British didn't take Lagos from Ife, they took it from the Oba of Benin !

ogunijebu18:
All the Edo speak Edo language not Yoruba. Some of the so called Edos are actually Yoruba blood like osimhen. Yorubas have a distinct look so you can’t confuse anyone. We’re not like Edos who look different from each other.
The indigenous lagosians speak Yoruba not Edo. They speak Edo in Edo state. No one forced anything

Stoplying:
1) contrary to your belief, the British are not gods.
2) the Precolonial map which I posted predates the British taking Lagos from Benin.
3) after the British took Lagos from Benin, they flooded it with American and European freed slaves and local slaves also migrated into Lagos.
4) once again, Yoruba is not a people but a Precolonial country also known as oyo kingdom.
5) the first mention of Yoruba is from 1808, all these different people who originate from slavery have decided to call themselves Yoruba, that is what explains Yoruba presence in Lagos.
6) migration into Lagos never stopped right from when the British took it over from Benin, it is still ongoing today.
7) it seems you have difficulties understanding, let me be even clearer: when the British took over Lagos, it was a part of Benin, it's people were by definition, Benin people or shall I say Edo. The British didn't take Lagos from Ife, they took it from the Oba of Benin !

ogunijebu18:
I told you very well. Go see if you can find any Edo speaking Lagos tribe.

ogunijebu18:
Go watch any documentary about Lagos and see if you find any Edo tribe there. Go tell them they’re Edo

Betscoreodds:
last year they said over twenty general was dead this year they all became alive lol

Stoplying:
Eyewitness writen precolonial text stating clearly that Lagos belongs to Benin:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x.r=Y%C3%A9bou?rk=21459;2

Precolonial map of the region showing that Lagos (in its currents form) and its environs were part of Benin (see below)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2


Conclusion: Lagos and its environs were part of Benin.

I am not interested in debating things which have already been proven. Also I am not interested in talking to people whom have been harrassing me. (I also want to add that I am actually the only person whom has commented here who actually speaks french and that I am the person who posted the french caption and the book from which it is to nairaland. Some delusional people who don't speak a word of frecnh were trying to "debate" me on the translation of the text several months ago. Fools can only fool other fools.)

T8ksy:
Omo, na wa o! Why the thing dey pain you so much?
I suppose, you know yoruba's history more than the Yorubas, themselves.

So, ile-ife was built in 1912, 2 yrs before Amalgamation? Clap for your self!

Benin kingdom that was destroyed by the brits in 1897. When the brits came to Lagos circa. 1860, who did they meet in lagos? Yorubas or Benin people?

Half education is no good o.

T8ksy:
Nope.............but indigenous Lagosians are Yorubas who traced their roots back to ile- ife.

Judolisco:
dats d sultan of sokoto na, all dis kings I'm seeing r first class kings... Wey get money pass emir of ilorin.. I can see ooni of ife, sultan of sokoto, I can see d deji of akure.... Bro u dey wine? I'm sure d oba of Benin 2 is there mayb camera no carry am... But no be small kings bdis... All first class

eldoradoxx:
Go to National Assembly of the entire country and convince the representatives of the entire country on why indigenous Lagosians (who are actually not up to 10% of Lagos population) should enjoy special status in commerical activities and property rights over the rest of the citizens living in Lagos. It cannot be done by Lagos Assembly alone.

T8ksy:
You are free to believe what you deemed true i.e Jesus Christ came to save ALL mankind.
Are you a "Lagosian"?

Stoplying:
I really don't have time to keep this back and fourth with you, quick chronology:

1) someone claimed India should be taken as a good exemple for protection of indigenous people
2) I said no, and my argument was that India has a racist cast system
3) you came and said my claim on India's cast system was untrue and your argument was that you knew about one person whose skin is as dark as that of an African who was among the top caste.
4) I proved my point about racism against darker skin colour in India by using YouTube videos.
5) you complain that I didn't use words and that I am lazy to not comment the videos, even though I actually wrote a comment on the post of the first videos and wrote an other comment at the post of the last video. I guess, I have to attach a comment to every video to make you happy (yeah, and I work for you 'ow I guess 😅)
6) I explain that I'm not a specialist on India's cast system (but I don't need to be a specialist on chemistry to know to not bath with acid), and I reaffirm the well known fact that India's cast system favours the lighter skin colour.
7) I also ask you to provide the percentage of darker skin people whom are in the top caste instead of relying on the one token guy (who may or may not exist by the way).
8 ) you ignore the question and continue to cry like a baby

Now consider your butt hurt and lying by omission and entitled self ignored. I've got a real life to live in the real world

T8ksy:
This is why, I, an ijebu man from Odogbolu, in ogun state can claim to be a "Lagosian".[/i][/color]