RodgersAkpafu: I didn't mention "rector" where are you getting that from? You must be misquoting me
You're right, you didn't mention rector.
Gerrard59 kept asking the question: "Why would a former rector of a polytechnic japa in the first place only to end up in a factory? Sometimes, I take these posts to be comical."
While your post was focused on the 2nd part (bankers), it seemed as if the same fate befell the Rectors. Worse, nobody debunked the rumors. I'm specifically looking for the people pushing the narrative to satiate their appetite for falsehood.
Henix: That 42M probably came from his Nigeria savings or properties at home. You can't be able to pay ur school fees in uk with part time job while schooling.
Talking about whether he will consider moving back home if he recovers the 42M, he already said that himself and his wife joint monthly savings is 500, which is an equivalent of one million naira. What this means is that he needs approximately 4 years to recover that 42M.
Now, would you advice him to return home after the 4yrs? I don't think it's a wise advice. He is currently earning minimum wage, and his wife is not yet working full-time because of their kids, meaning there is a room for an improved earning and savings. The UK holds a better future for them, especially their kids, if they can work hard to improve their status
Very logical analysis. I don't understand why everyone will be attacking the OP if things are not going well for him right now. He's on the right track and with time he'll gain stability and consolidate. People don't want to hear about your struggles but are more interested in social media buzz. They say tough times create strong men, strong men create good times.
Are you the only one that is producing in Nigeria? What about other companies? Shd they start selling in dollar too cos they buy raw materials in dollar?
I thought it's a crime to transact in dollar in Nigeria!!!!
The only reason being he's in a free trade zone so he can collect payments for goods and services in USD
cococandy: Since you asked me to Google, here’s what Google says.
Well I’m Nigerian. Why won’t I have Nigerian mindset? What mindset should I have?
I should’ve listened to the small voice that was telling me to ignore you the first time you quoted me. Something in me knew it was about to be some BS.
You don’t know me. I wasn’t sharing my personal opinion. I Just telling you what’s happening in the current culture.
If you asked me what my personal opinion about designer items are and if they’re worth it etc, then based on my response, maybe you can have a basis to be going off the deep end like you’re currently doing now.
Now you're on the right track. I stated that they are designers but not luxury items but look at what Google said for the brands that you said are not designers. Note that Michael Kors is widely know as a designer brand and for it's luxury. That's same Google. That's the brand I used in the past so I wanted to know the village that you live in for not knowing that. My aim was to stop misinforming people nothing personal ma. As I dey I na Naija food dey hungry enough of the designers issue. Be safe
cococandy: Designers are viewed as luxury items in America. That’s why as the cultural appeal reduced and lack exclusivity happened with brands like mall Michael kors and Kate spade etc, people no longer refer to them as designers.
So if for example you say that you only dress in designer items and start pulling out brands like Michael Kors, people are going to look at you like “that’s it?” Where are the DESIGNERS?” Because when you say that, they’re expecting more exclusive brands. This is a cultural phenomenon that’s true for everywhere. I know you know that but you wanted to let me know that you know the definition of designers according to the dictionary.
So pls spare me the roundabout talk.
Which America? I guess your America. So I need to wear 50k clothing before someone will say I'm wearing designers. Tell me the city (except Houston) where you are in America and I'll challenge you to a Vox pop. Tell me how much you're willing bet on this. I told you initially you don't know what designers mean, you should have used Google or ask fashion designers. My dear designers are not viewed as Luxury in America. I've been to all the major cities and 2 fashion shows. Right now I'm jobless, so I can come see the Americans you associate with that view designers as luxury items. So much for Naija mentality.
Nazgul: Next time try to understand what someone is saying before rushing to hit reply.
I'm not talking about scholarships, as there are countless Nigerians who are benefiaries of American scholarships daily.
I'm talking about getting a foreign American job from Nigeria and being fully sponsored by the company to relocate to the US.
Do you think it's easy? Before a company/firm would sponsor you from Nigeria to work for them, you'd have to be the best amongst the best.
I uploaded a reply I got from a firm in my previous post. Our image isn't at its best currently. Thus making it extremely difficult for job applicants in Nigeria to be considered for remote jobs let alone being sponsored to come over there and work.
It has nothing to do with with self defeating personality disorder. It's just the harsh reality whether you choose to believe it or not.
Sir, you're not a talent. The earlier you stop deceiving yourself, the better for you. The job reply you uploaded further buttress my point.
1. I personally don't like the workday platform 2. You're applying to the wrong type of jobs 3. That was an automated reply (Your CV wasn't even viewed) 4. You should spend more time reading/learning before applying for any jobs.
You can continue to hide under the image of Nigeria while others leave you behind.
RodgersAkpafu: You are playing I repeat You are playing lol
My fourth madam in my unit when I was in the bank those days currently works in Care in Birmingham And btw makes more money collectively with her husband and her now adult daughter (she was still u 16 when they came) than they would have made even at that job
Forget the social. capital and status Tinubu devaluation has rendered professional pay in Nigeria useless
And no. we weren't "contract staff"
Stop lying. I repeat stop lying. Do you know what it means to be a rector? You try to justify your decision by gaslighting others. I know over 5 persons who returned to same Nigeria after finishing their M.sc and you're saying a rector which is a political appointment is doing care job in the UK. I don't degrade what others do and at the same time don't accept it when someone lies to themselves or others to justify their actions, making them seem reasonable or acceptable.
cococandy: Oh the artists themselves (not coach) are fashion designers obviously. They didn’t just launch their brands without credentials and got so much clout for nothing. Coach is a heritage label and reputation is built of their longevity.
But when people say designers (at least here) they mean luxury items. You’re the one getting caught up in semantics.
Exactly my point designers doesn't equate luxury. It's only in Nigeria that people think such. I actually don't know who you mean by when people say designers? Which people are you referring to? There's is no where in the world where Coach, Michael Kors or Kate Spare are not called designer clothing.
For Luxury items, we also have the lower, mid and upper echelons. Rodeo Drive is a famous luxury street for elite shoppers same as 5th avenue in NY. Instead of me to spend on such, I'd go for custom hand clothing.
Nazgul: Bro, Nigeria doesn't fall into countries the US considers as potential hubs for sourcing out professionals. However countries like China, India and most professionals in western Europe fall into this category.
If you carry out a study you'd discover that less than 15% of Nigerians have actually benefitted from this scheme. Reason being that our education system isn't amongst the top rated worldwide.
So telling a Nigerian living in Nigeria to keep applying that if he's good enough an American company would sponsor his trip over there to work is not a realistic objective. The best is to move over there, complete your Msc, and get a good job.
I see that as a self-defeating personality disorder. I assisted many with sponsorships and the last time I checked Nigeria is a hub for sourcing professionals. The only issue I found is many exaggerate their profile/achievements and sometimes lie. I responded to your post based on your claims, however, I will leave you with the words of Marc Andreesen “The world is a very malleable place. If you know what you want, and you go for it with maximum energy and drive and passion, the world will often reconfigure itself around you much more quickly and easily that you would think.”
Atk1nson: You are either an alternate account of the op, or you struggle with comprehension.
The guy could have clearly stated that he lacked ambition which is why he has no driving licence and lives on the bare minimum rather than suggesting its the norm.
For all I care, he can quit work and live in food banks where he stays, but he should be clear on why.
You're right. I have several alternate accounts and same as the OP. You that's over-ambitious, tell us your achievements and accomplishments. I put it to you that you may not earn in the next ten years what I earned ten years ago. But now, I'm fine with the bare minimum, happy and contented with my life. It's time you focus on yourself and your health instead of being a scandalmonger. You can direct your ambitions to assist your family and friends.
samuelson06: The fact is that the person here is using his unpreparedness to face life outside Nigeria to advise others. He's discouraging others from leaving because of his own personal failings. Months from now, he'll come back to open another thread and begin to wail again. Nobody should take him seriously.
Hmmm. The person is just sharing his experience. The fact that he was able to travel and you're getting discouraged by his piece shows that you have a lot of work to do on yourself. I don't get discouraged by what people say about their experience. I have my goals and work towards them. You can also share your experience so that others will be encouraged. I guess you have a prepared life wherever you are.
Mcslize: Brother, you just opened my eyes. Wow. No wonder some people said they are having 2 to 3 houses abroad. So, this is how they do it. I am saving this. You see how smart some people think? Most people mind won't even reason towards this aspect. With this, you don't need to worry about not meeting up cuz others are paying and you are using what they pay to settle the mortgage bit by bit. This is an eye opener.
You're very funny . What if no one rents the house? If you can't afford the mortgage without the rental income, you will be in a precarious situation. Half baked information from you brother.
Nazgul: Like I said. My post isn't for countries like UK and Canada. I understand that those countries are seriously overcrowded. So getting good jobs there is going to be a herculean task. My post is for the US only.
If you're highly qualified most especially in tech, you can comfortably run 2 (or more) jobs concurrently.
It's all about your niche and your skill.
It's good to have the right mindset but the truth is if you're good enough for any company, they'll sponsor you or create a job for you. The US has the best talents in the world and that makes it more competitive than any other country. RTO is also making it difficult to do multiple jobs.
Nazgul: That's because she travelled to the US without any degree or skill.
I have a cousin in the US who sends me links of jobs in America. Do you know that out of every 5 jobs I apply to 4 would reach out to me telling me that they can't hire me because of my location.
So if I happen to be there, I should be able to get at least 2 jobs to begin with.
This is possible because I have a very rich CV. So once any prospective recruiter looks at it, he'll definitely want to reach out.
A lot of Nigerians travel out with incomplete papers, zero or poor academic records and no skill at all. So they usually find it very difficult in getting a job. Cos no cooperate firm in the US would hire you if you lack the skill and qualifications they need.
If they really want you they will sponsor you. There are many Nigerians who work remotely for foreign companies. It's very easy to be in Nigeria say you'll get 10 jobs except you're in a high-demand field.
Originalsly: A friend of mine got visa and was super anxious to travel. I advised him not to rush to travel because of the cold ...winter...wait until late Spring or better ...summer. ..that winter requires appropriate clothing which is not cheap and can't be used on his return. He said he loves the cold ... used to A/C. His choice...he travelled. Spent a month locked in where he was staying ...watching TV and looking through the window. ....he didn't expect it to be so cold.
If you fail to prepare ...prepare to fail.
Your post reminds me of an incident when I took a friend from Canada on mountain climbing, he was claiming that he's very strong and rugged. At 2k feet, he started vomiting and shivering. I still remind him till today.
tunapawizzy: No. 1, your income shows you and your wife do not have skills that can command good income. But even at that and your wife working just 2 days and you working 4 days, you said you guys can still save 500pounds, that is 1million naira, Tell yourself the truth if you and your wife dey nigeria, will you guys save 1million naira per month as a family , with the skill u have and the job u will be able to do in Nigeria. Will you have access to the kind of facilities u have access to in UK. you send 150pounds back home every month, the people u send that 150pounds to every month, if u dey Nigeria will u be able to give them 300k naira every month.
Oga you and your wife work minimum wage(which means there is room for growth if you upskill with time), you work 4 days a week, your wife works 2 days a week and you guys are still sending 300 thousand naira home every month and saving 500pounds(approx 1m naira) every month. Now let's not even convert to Naira, una fit save 6k pounds per year, while working 54 hours a week(between u and your wife)...if that is not good enough, please tell us what u guys were doing and earning in nigeria before u left
It's funny how you're analyzing his income and savings instead of you to develop yourself. Developing valuable skills isn’t as simple as it sounds. It takes time, effort, and access to the right opportunities. I was one of the first Nigerians to obtain a certification that gave me many opportunities years ago but today that same certification is taking you nowhere. You also need to understand that not everyone has the same learning curve or resources to develop themselves. I'm of the school of though that if you're good, you're good. Nigeria has it's challenges but it's not responsible for the excuses that people ascribe to it.
Atk1nson: That guy is a guy with almost zero ambition and very little character to thrive but a big mouth for nagging.
From the first UK thread he open I did tell him he was heading for a bare-mimimum living in the UK and its not surprising how it turned out for him
People can be comfortable with the bare minimum and I see nothing wrong with that. Everyone’s circumstances and priorities are different. At the end of the day, what matters is personal fulfillment and making choices that align with one’s goals and situation. You can also create a thread and share your ambitious history.
Gerrard59: What I mean is: someone did MSc Business Analytics at a university in the UK. Unfortunately, due to visa issues and fierce competition, s/he cannot get a job in the industry or sister-industries or role aligned to Business Analytics. My question is: isn't it better for the person to apply to jobs in Nigeria that require someone with such skills and degree rather than settle for care jobs in the UK?
Intent matters. Many individuals who pursue degrees abroad are more interested in the opportunity to travel rather than the actual field of study. For them, staying in the UK is the priority, not necessarily securing a job in their specialized industry. That’s why they are willing to settle for any job, including care roles, just to remain in the country rather than returning to Nigeria to seek relevant opportunities. Those that return already knew they were not interested in settling in the UK.
Treadway: fullclub! I remember you very well..I remember engaging with your earlier thread, and wishing you the best through your ordeal at the time.
But I can't understand why you are yet again creating a thread like this one, that achieves nothing, ultimately.
I'm sure if we could turn back time, to go back to where you were mentally when you began your journey to Japa, 10001 of these kain threads would not have deterred you. So I just wonder what you hope to achieve with it now. Even Dele Momodu wey dey cap, prolly spends more than half of the year overseas.
These kain decisions should be left to each person to make and deal with. No need for convincing or explaining. It is pointless! I don taya to dey read this kain threads for here aswear
Those that think it best to stay in Naija should be left alone, as they have the conviction that they know what they are doing. Those that think is best to Japa should be left alone, as they also have the conviction that they know what they are doing...
All this shalaye is not necessary
Did the post irk you? Adults are generally presumed to be competent and responsible for their decisions, and are expected to manage their own affairs and make decisions about their lives, including travels. Don't take it personal, travelling will always be a burning issue and I don't expect any adult to make decisions based on a post by a stranger.
fullclub: Japa is not a one-size-fits-all decision. If you have ₦30M and solid income streams in Nigeria, it might be wiser to invest and build wealth at home. But if safety and quality of life matter more, than wealth accumulation then relocating might still be the best option but must be done tactically especially when coming on student visa as one academic error could throw u off.
Thanks for sharing your views. We need others to share their experiences as well. This has been lacking on this platform.
As you know your posts will be subjected to public criticism so don't post in public forums if you cannot handle criticism.
deeway200: It takes less than 45 minutes to load a truck manually and it takes less than 5 minutes to load a truck automatically . Now you claimed you are loading automatically but why is it taking eternity to load trucks? Stop all these lies and be responsible once in your life.
The NSChE is a professional body respected worldwide. If you're a member, it may change change your life. I don't know if you're a truck driver but loading trucks is different from refinery operations. It takes a longer time to send products to the storage tanks than offloading the products. Think of a water storage tank, it takes a longer time to pump water into the tank than emptying the tanks. 33 trucks can empty the PMS storage tanks and it'll be till the following day before another 33 trucks can load again.
casualobserver: Pay no attention to the guy and his like. Many of them have not a single brain cell between their ears. They are poorly educated, they do not engage their brains, they take their direction from people who themselves are ignorant.
Many of them do not know the meaning of “blending”. The Refinery in PH is working and never stopped working. Many of them do not know that all refineries blend even Dangote blends.
It was painful as a Nigerian to listen to Adesua and Seyitan embarrass themselves when the president of the Nigerian society of chemical engineers tried severally to explain the process to them and they still could not understand. They claim to be journalists. If our news stations feeding his likes do no investigation of their own, do not send their journalists to investigate, you can’t blame his like for being ignorant.
I just listened to the interview and this is the first time that I'm seeing a SME speaking about refineries. He was very simple and clear but the likes of Eriokanmi will still not understand. I wouldn't blame Adesua and Seyitan, they represent the average Nigerian public. This is a very simple issue and a science subject that's taught in secondary schools. For non-science students a simple Google search will provide a clear explanation. It tells a lot about the media in Nigeria.
Eriokanmi: . Your post simply describes your IQ and maturity levels. Google the meaning of IIoT . That's what my company does with the Dangote refineries, Total and SPDC facilities. Only by doing this would you tell if I'm relevant in the sector or not. I'd end it that way.
As you now know better how a refinery works than I do, let's see what happens to the PH refineries in coming days. I predicted it would be shut down cos it was an arrangee setting and it happened even earlier than the duration predicted. That refinery will never be effective cos only a fragment of it was touched by TAM and for blending purposes. The best bet is sell it off as scrap.
I know your type very well. I checked and didn't find anything online for IIoT. Now you go online and tell me what the USEPA does for the world. I first went to the PH refinery at the age of 10. I don't need any media to tell me what's happening there. I've executed contracts there and I have engineers working there that I can call to find out what's happening. The media have been awash with nonsensical reporting. They don't invite professionals to speak on subject matters and they don't investigate issues. You work for SPDC, Total and Dangote and you're saying "blending plant", I laugh in Arabic. You don't know that all products are blended. You see why I said a good secondary school graduate can filter through the noise. PMS is a blend of straight-chain and branched alkanes, cycloalkanes and aromatic compounds. Diesel is a blend of Aliphatic hydrocarbons and aromatic hydrocarbons. Your company works for Dangote, tell us how Dangote produces PMS. What type of CDU are they using? How's the SFN built? Let's start from there.
Eriokanmi: Read what I posted the day they deceived you as usual, that the refinery had commenced operation. But i doubt you will. What I said would happen had happened. It's you guys who look irredeemable cos despite the obvious , you still swallowed their usual lies hook, line and sinker without reasoning.
Redeem yourself from gullibility my friend. It's a disease and very dangerous to the growth and development of Nigeria.
I did read it. Your posts are usually brooding and sulking. You don't know anything about refineries and the operation of refineries. Even a secondary school graduate should be able to filter through the noise because the refinery has been working. I don't have a problem with your views or opinions on any matter but I do when individuals display stupidity and are vehemently ignorant. If you think you know anything about the PH refinery I'll challenge you to a live debate. You misanthrope.
skliz: dont compare higher education to the gym. They are completely different. Most people in the gym go there for purposes aside fitness. It a fornication ground.
I have a gym membership and I encourage others to do the same. Fitness is a way of life, if you feel your woman will go there for other reasons then provide an alternative. Both of you can go there together, there are personal fitness trainers and you can also purchase gym equipment.
@ topic. I believe he has a point ...but he is including all women. Women are naturally attracted to well built men ...and well built men are usually in the gym ...if not already built ...getting there. The women who will most likely be carried away are those whose husbands or guys are not in shape... the pot belly ones ... the flabby ones ... obese ones... the ones who are always too busy ...or too tired..... and there are manyyyy such men. They....need to sit up and pay attention.
It's same way men are attracted to physically fit women. Fitness is a holistic concept that everyone needs. You should understand that women need the gyms as much as the men. If you don't want your girl to go to the gym, purchase the equipment in the house. Saying your girl should not go to the gym for whatever reason is not different from telling women not to go to pursue higher education because of the level of immorality in schools.
koife: Hey guys, we just turned 6 years in marriage and for us, today is a memorable day. Please share in our joy.....Prayers are welcomed as well
Congratulations sir. I always admire young couples. I also like how you ignored detractors, please remain focused. If you don't mind we can send you our gift if we can get your account number so that you guys can have a wonderful dinner.