₦airaland Forum

IyaebeTheGreat:
Asiwaju is a father to all, you all will come to love him.

This is for sure, if his health doesn’t fail him… those against him now will be wowed and eventually give him a landslide winning for another 4 years.

No surprises here, an average maga still believe that Trump won the American election too but Trump is already preparing for the new election lol

Obi and Atiku are already preparing for the next election too.

So take your time to digest the fact that Tinubu is your president for Atleast the next 4 years.

Thekaghan:
Who is encouraging this man? I guess he wants to stay relevant.

He need to stay relevant in preparation for the next election. He knows that there’s no mandate that got stolen from him… he won all his strong hold and a little outside. He knows better that you can’t win an election with one regions vote.

Sowore is beginning to lose it, he was my preferred candidate even though his chances of winning was ultra slim… but he’s being too childish lately with his utterances.

Fake list of it doesn’t contain African languages, the indigenous Mayans, the Aztecs.

onuman:
Jagaban is very old, frail, sick, suffers dementia, or are you blind that you don't see Jagaban often lose tract every time he speaks?

First you said he doesn’t know what censor is and now it’s old again… you’re blind one who also happens to be delusional.

Good luck, but a time will come when you all will be picked up for defamation and prosecuted to the full extent of the law of the land.

onuman:
Obi sees far ahead of his peers.

Jagaban is let me be president of Nigeria, even for one day.

Does Jagaban even know about the census? Doubt.

Jagaban is more educated and have more professional experience than Obi will ever have. Take that to the bank.

TemplarLandry:
Excellent!
In my eyes, Tinubu's presidency is the start of Nigerian democracy. No more Khaki men in Agbada. We technically started democracy in 1999 and it's going to be uninterrupted henceforth.

This is the very first time a true democrat with no stupid military background will be our President.
Note, I said “a true democrat”, not wannabes.
The very first time a President from the South supervises a digital Nigerian census. So credibility rate of the census is way high.

The first digital census in Nigerian history.

No more wonky inflated figures from the Ariwa.
Hopes are up!

I agree! Jonathan’s regime was the start of it until the return of Buhari.

All these kids that don’t understand how the world actually work sef smh

Jerryherd:
When a country sends someone on diplomatic mission like AU mission or negotiation he gets diplomatic honorary passport

The earlier you start ignoring the better. I don explain this part tire.

Look into Portugal! See if you can find a school within your budget. Cost of living is really low, big plus it’s a schengen member and once if easiest at getting their residency. Also Estonia.

[quote author= post=122704685]Ogun recently commissioned airport[/quote]They commissioned only a cargo airport not a commuter airport.

ruffhandu:
I assume I made some clarifications in terms of morals on the person of Obi. I never wanted Atiku to get close to the seat of the president of Nigeria, except when he is placed in contest with no other person but Buhari. If I had supernatural powers. i would have done anything to stop Buhari, but Nigerians simply shut their eyes to all red flags. For the three top contenders - Tinubu, Obi and Atiku, Obi is a saint in comparison in my opinion.

This is where I completely disagree. The 3 are all on the same level. Remember that Tinubu is most investigated governor till date all thanks to his opposition during Obj’s regime.

ruffhandu:
Now you accuse me of being sentimental, I don't think that's fair.
Tax revenue grew in lagos under Tinubu, but that was done with motives and because he was pressed at the time. Saying he used 'his legitimate accounting firm...'. I hope you know he denied ties with the company when he was indicted? That act was criminal in Nigeria- using your public office for personal gain. He was taking 15% out of Lagos internally generated revenue, we are not talking about federal allocation yet. If he had done that after office, and the company had been vetted, no matter how shambolic, that would have been ok. tinubu claims he 'owns lagos', and rightly so.

Coming to Obi, it was no family business he invested the state funds in, his investments also cuts accross several other establishments. including nigeria states (through bonds). Obi was careful not to spend the state funds carelesslly, he even denied himself his entitlements- which nigerian politician has ever done that? Do you know he was impeached twice? you may need to find out why.

i actually encountered him during his valedictory ceremony as a governor, and thereafter, i spoke to anyone who cared to listen about how this is one of a kind in this country. He had said, and still says, that if you have anything against him, and show him where he has spent a kobo out of the state fund recklessly, that he will drop out of this struggle. 'Recklessly' also includes inflation of government contracts, etc.

Obi did not come into politics for gain , he came to serve. He made up his mind the day he witnessed bakassi boys killing some 'thieves' without trial. He ended god-fatherism in Anambra, changed the educational, health and agricultural status/fortune of the state.

The reason I feel he is the best candidate in this race is because our leaders have wasted our resources, plunged us into damaging debts, and the other frontline politicians personally do not stand for anit-corruption, let alone ending the corruption in the system, except Obi, going by their antecedents- unless of course he changes tomorrow. But i strongly believe that if he was able to survive Anambra, where political wolves existed with federal might, he will be the one to succeed in steering Nigeria to the right course.

Apologies if that come off offensive, that’s not my intention. It seem sentimental when you ask if I could hire a politician to manage my business… reality is that the politician in question is a seasoned accountant that rose to the highest peak of his career. Again, apologies if that come off as offensive.

I chose to agree with you for the sake of this argument that he owns Alpha Beta even though no solid evidence to defend that claims yet. I don’t want us to go down that rabbit hole is why I choose to answer your question directly and you haven’t addressed the morality of other candidates that I called out.

Good damage control moves after the leaked audio. Nice move! Kudos!

ruffhandu:
Great points. but don't you think the two politicians you mentioned did way greater things considering the amount of resources at their disposals in comparison. Also, I think they already placed Lagos on a trajectory that will make it obvious if any subsequent governor fails to deliver.
Now, compare those other two leaders to Tinubu and tell me what you think about their characters. Again, what do you posit as regards Alpha beta, and all the private property and wealth acquisition as a result of conversion of state resources using political powers.
Finally, would you, considering all you know about Tinubu, employ him to be the general manager of your private company- please eschew sentiments, I know you've been objective so far.

Okay you’re getting sentimental and politics don’t work like that.

1. Jakande contributed immensely to Lagos development so does Tinubu, it will be a disrespect to underscore his contributions as Lagos state govt. Forget trajectory, Lagos was in the same of PH and some other oil producing states. Those states cannot come close to Lagos in terms of development now. Tinubu widen the tax bracket which ushered in the resources that you’re talking about now. Many governors would still fail even if you laid down all the plans for them cos majority are out there to recoup their investment, if it was that easy, all oil producing states should be like Dubai by now considering their income to population ratio. Tinubu improved on Jakande’s plan that’s no secret.

2. Speaking of Alpha beta, now you want to get down to morals. Nobody is holy amongst all Nigerian politicians in this regards. It has always been padi padi unless you want to pretend like you don’t know. Just like Tinubu having his legitimate accounting firm consult for Lagos state, Obi had invested Anambras state funds in his family business, also Atiku has used in influence as a former NPA boss to expand his business Intels progress. Now tell me why Tinubu’s case becomes a problem now and others are not.
Tinubu’s situation ushered a money generating channel for the govt, State government in the US use private firms to manage and collect their taxes too on behalf of the state, if Lagos state business stays within Nigeria I don’t have a problem with that as long as job is well done.

This is the single reason why I do not support any of the 3 folks, they are exactly the same in terms of morals but none of them come close to Tinubu in achievements as a governor.

3. If I would hire Tinubu as a manager, if those 3 were the ONLY candidates I’d definitely hire a Tinubu instead of Atiku or Obi. But in the case of 2023 election, we have over 16 candidates yet NIgerians choose just those 3 which I found very annoying, but it’s all good. Those 3 are all desperate don’t be deceived, infact Obi is the most desperate judging how he used religious and ethnic lines that has been a fainted line in our country, he got there and unleashed the old wound.

Again, my only problem in my opinion with Tinubu is his health… that’s why I never supported his candidacy. Now that election is over, I’d gladly support him.

BrotherSade:
😎

Kwankwaso can never join APC.

Not possible 😎

Even though I agree you but never say never brother!

yarimo:
But he should be taken seriously when ever he said something good about peter OBI abi ? Mteeeew

Lol you nailed it 😂 that’s exactly their expectations.

ruffhandu:
Good, i like the debate.
1. Can you point out how you feel he will achieve that, with all the wolves around him.
2. Do you also feel buhari did a good job (this one na side question)?

1. Tinubu’s contribution to Lagos development can never be rivaled anywhere else in the country. His contribution is in the class of Lateef Jakande and the Awolowos. The invincible wolves? If they exist, I don’t see them affecting his performance, he always have a good eye to spot performers like him. Again, only his health is my concern that might affect his performance.

2. Buhari only did well in infrastructure. Outside of that, everything else is trash. Which mostly explains Tinubu’s reluctancy to support his second term it’s like … this is not the promise we made to Nigerians kind of vibe.

ruffhandu:
Honestly, I do not think Tinubu will make Nigeria any good, instead worse. If Obi was not at the polls, and Osinbajo was there, I'll stick my neck out for Osinbajo.
If we keep turning blind eye to all these things happening in Nigeria, then the politicians will keep succeeding. They believe: 'Do whatever you can to be declared winner, thereafter, forget it'. that was exactly what played out in the Binani case. So by the time you go to court, they have a way of dragging the case to 3-4 years when the tenure is almost over so as to discourage you - check history. I believe they should be accelerating the hearing to end before swearing-in, I believe we should sort this out now, it's a virus, a political pandemic. When you leave the shores of Nigeria then you see what I mean. This Nigeria is not what we should bequeath to our descendants.

If I would play the devil’s advocate here… Tinubu will turn Nigeria around I have no iota of doubt about that but I am more worried about his health.

Femmyfamous4u:
Wait till Inauguration and hold him to whatever. Right now, he deserves his rest

Exactly! Until May 29, he’s technically not Nigeria’s property.

This is a dumb report which is targeted at another tribe, as such should be taken down.

@seun

Fortruth:
Tinubu is a demented old MAN who is “resting” in his colonizer’s land


Blackie

Nothing new here you said worse about Buhari, you even call him a clone lol and that the was Jubril from wherever 😂😂😂

ruffhandu:
Hahahahaha. One of the funniest posts I've seen. You know, I could say the same of you. Been expecting to receive an insult from you, or call me IPOB, or say one denigrating words or the other, but Mba.

But this is how it should be, irrespective of tribe, religion or political affiliations. All we need is a good Nigeria where the ordinary man will not be second class. may of of us have run away from the country to be second class citizens elsewhere because it seems better to them than being worse in their homeland. God bless you bro.

I appreciate that. At the end of the way we all want a good Nigeria that we can all go back to irrespective of tribe or ideology.

Just an fyi, I don’t even support all 3 front runner… Tinubu, Atiku and Obi but since Tinubu won it’s all good. Best we can do is support him at this point and hopefully make the best out of him.

My preferred candidate did not even make it to first 5 lol

infohenry:
why we will he steal even one vote from an unpopular candidate, don't worry even Tinubu knows he lost the election but all thanks to criminal governors he gave victory.
Man was not popular anywhere, lost Lagos, Osun, Abuja, Kaduna, Kano, Kastina Delta and stole Rivers.

He lost to who exactly?

ruffhandu:
Another matter is that he did not make that known in his INEC form. he may have reasons for that anyway, but that is one of the contentions.

I just say that I respect your civility, you’re the first Obi supporter who could have a discussion without cursing. You earn my respect sir!

infohenry:
From Peter Obi, already caught in rivers state which proves it.

Somebody who came distance 3rd is crying stolen mandate lol Wetin make 2nd person talk na 😂😂😂 Carry your evidence to the court and the votes can be adjusted accordingly.

Hopefully you find more votes like Trump was looking for one that wasn’t lost lol

IVORY2009:
Tinubu can not rule in peace, just watch and see, he is standing on a stolen mandate bro

Stolen from who ?

ruffhandu:
Another matter is that he did not make that known in his INEC form. he may have reasons for that anyway, but that is one of the contentions.

If he got the diplomatic passport from consulting, I’m sure it would have expired once his consulting contract ended and won’t be renewed. Again, why and how he got the passport is what matters, and if the Guinea govt will officially come to testify in court is another though.

ruffhandu:
No bro, we are not talking about evidence anymore, Guinea has confirmed he possese one. It is the impact of that we do not know now.

Okay. If he got one just by working for government I don’t see any problem. And it will be a great luck to have Guinea govt to officially defend it too lol

ruffhandu:
It's ok my brother. If Nigeria allows one to hold a diplomatic passport and become a president, good luck to Mr tinubu.

Yes I like that! Also, until there’s concrete evidence that he has one. The court will decide on that.