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italo: What is what?

Jesus in the blessed sacrament

italo: If you want to see God face to face.

Go to the nearest Catholic Church and ask for Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament.

What's that?

veeco vee: As heaven is far from earth is as God ways are far from that of men. Apostle's handkerchiefs and aprons drove out demons and if you are a real chosen not of the church but of the bible, then if you call your God, God will drive out demons too

God bless you

You simply draw conclusions from nothing, you are blindly following a man who obviously has deviated from the Bible. It is your lost Bro, God doesn't pay for a meal He hasn't ordered

Call Him Jesus, only a demon will respond if you call another thing.

mimi77: The Ministry is moving!

Good, all the best.

fluxbush: Other names used are, ' The god of my pastor's power' , 'The god of Lazarus Muoka' and 'Baba Ijesha.' Hilarious,dnt you think?

For real?

Vicjustice: You seem to be know too much about "David", but why is "David" not making these enquiries for himself?

roadmap2money is equal to david

veeco vee: God of my pastor, God of chosen is Jesus Christ.

Read

John 15:16
King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained
you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit
should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my
name, he may give it you.

This is the same verse you started with and running in circles only shows you are out of ideas. I will ask you the same question I asked when you first brought that verse: if I said ' I have chosen you' does that make my name chosen?

veeco vee: See what i m saying? someone has come with another Yashua Hamashiyan. They are all the same ok, God of Chosen, Yashua Hamashiya, God of Ahraham, Isaac and Jacob, God of apostles and even in my language we call him yesu.


God bless you

Jesus, Yesu, Jesu etc whatever it is in your language, if you are referring to Christ, it is valid. He (God) created diverse of tongues.

Olorun paito mi, Olorun chosen (?), God of chosen, God of my pastor is unscriptural. Simply Jesus!

hisblud: are you implying that the apostles called on the god of my apron, god of my shadow? No man. It must be in the name of Jesus and the power by the name of Jesus called, flowed thru the instrument to the person for deliverance.

Valid

veeco vee: I think the ministry used the name "chosen" because the name was used in many places in Bible and of course they must anawer something....now you are equally coming to my point, not the name but doctrine. With out holiness no one can see God

God bless you

Thou was also used in several places in the bible, why are they not bearing Thou?

Holiness in the name of God of chosen or God of my pastor amounts to nonsense. You can't accept and ignore a portion of the scriptures. Holiness should be preached and the name of Jesus should be used in all prayers (name of God of my pastor is unbiblical and should be thrown away)

veeco vee: Why did the Apostles use their shadows, handkerchief, aprons etc.?

This has no relevance to our discuss. Let us first thrash out this heresy (God of chosen, God of my pastor), ok?

veeco vee: I ve not heard that one should pray in the name of God of overseer or God of chosen from any their of services. Rather in face of an armedrobber that you should challenge him by shouting " i am a chosen" or "the God of my pastor"

Christ taught all believers how ro pray ok....Our father who art in heaven.......


God bless you

I am a Chosen, the God of my Pastor in the face of danger still doesn't find root in the Bible.

Proverb 18:10
10 The name of the Lord is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.

Simply Jesus

veeco vee: What the difference between elect, choice and chosen? brother

Now you got the point, there is no difference. So what is the issue with screaming chosen?
God of Chosen, God of Elect, God of Choice (what is the sense in this nonsense?). Stick to the bible, avoid heresy and extra-biblical silly things. Simply Jesus!

veeco vee: I have not come across a tranlation that did not use "chosen generation" the only place there was change is "peculiar people" if its liar, then get the translation and paste it here for all to see.

God bless you

American Standard Version
But ye are a elect race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that ye may show forth the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:


English Revised Version
But ye are an elect race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that ye may shew forth the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

Young's Literal Translation
and ye are a choice race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people acquired, that the excellences ye may shew forth of Him who out of darkness did call you to His wondrous light

There are so many of them. Chosen has a meaning and it can be used interchangeably with many other words. It is not God of chosen, God of my Pastor but simply JESUS

veeco vee: I think that God cant be fully defined by any man. Moses worked miracles with rod, Elijah with mantle etc. Jesus spoke miracles to happen in somecases and in another case, he mixed his saliver and sand of the earth to cause miracle to happen, the apostles handkerchieft and aprons were placed on the sick and miracles happened.

One thing Christ says is "if your faith is as little as monstard seed, that it can move mountains.

Please leave this man with how God chosed to work with him God is omniscience,omniwisdom etc. Judgement is betweem him and God. The race is individual in nature.

God bless you

I don't know if you have ever taken a course in Comparative religion. There is no heretic that do make claim on a special revelation, vision or visit by angels. Jesus is Jesus not Chosen not God of my Pastor. There is no other name than JESUS. We can't leave him alone if it is true he has been preaching this, no man of God is immune to mistake, he may not even know of this and that is why we have to point it out to him what the Bible. The Bible is our final authority.

2 Timothy 3:16
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

We must stick to what the Bible says, it is JESUS!!

Infomizer: None that I can think of per se. I was only trying to toy with the fact that if ‘jesus’ were to be an exclamation or onomatopoeia in another language, and the folks there have not met christians before, then it means that they will be casting out demons without even knowing it. Abi?

There is a joke session on NL

veeco vee: Beloved alot of things are going on under the sun. There are alot of jesus, even in our nigeria, we have, i think, jesus of okoko. Nowadays, even occultic pastors call jesus.

I told you that i ve been to their service and they do pray in the name of Jesus Christ. But remember that, the only CHOSEN that can praises God and pray in Jesus name and say anything with faith and God will honour it, is the CHOSEN of the Bible in the book of

1 peter 2:9
New King James Version (NKJV)
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy
nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises
of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light;

God bless you

Some translations use Peculiar Generation,Selected Generation, Special Generation. I can prove to you all those words render the real meaning in the original greek than chosen, the point is there is nothing Special in the word Chosen. Pray in Jesus Name and in no other

veeco vee: Pls answer this question. Have you for once mentioned "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the begining and the end, i am that i am, emmanuel, lion of tribe of Judah, God of the apostles etc. ?

I told you that i ve been to their service and do not believe hear say. They do pray on the name Jesus Christ ok. I think what we should be after is doctrine. Some people do not like them because they condemn evil and heardly preach prosperity. I dont think this ministry is for everybody, its only for those who wish to avoid all evil and corrupt ways of life for the sake of HEAVEN. Without righteousness, no one will see God.

God bless you

There is no Christian is in his right mind that speaks against righteousness and there shouldn't be any that won't speak against heresy.

The Name to use is JESUS, I don't care how righteous and anointed a Pastor or Priest is, if his teaching doesn't bear root in the Bible, he is an heretic. Read the God's General and see how many genuine men of grace messed up because of some silly doctrine not seen in the Bible.

I use name like God of Abraham, God of Isaac, Elohim etc to worship God (they are in the Bible) I can't find God of Chosen or God of my Pastor in my Bible. I say my prayers with 'IN JESUS NAME' not even 'IN GOD OF ABRAHAM NAME'. It is not right, it is unscriptural, it should be denounced!!!

veeco vee: I have a friend who is a member and i have been to their service. This is the first church i have attended that preach rightousness without compromise. Infact, i have heard from one their pastors, telling the congregation not give offering or pay tithe with ingeniure(stolen, bribery, cheated, 419, harlotry, ritual) money. Infact that they should return the money, that they' ll have problem if they bring in polluted money into the church. Tell me how God wouldnt work with them.

Now coming to your question. Jesus Christ was the one who mentioned chosen in the Bible and gave power to them in the book of John 15:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained
you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit
should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my
name, he may give it you.

Why are taking up someone's revelation just because he is pastor. What Mouka( Chosen Overseer) tell the members to shout in face or danger is "i am a chosen or God of chosen or God of my Pastor", which is Jesus Christ who is the same with his Father(GOD almighty).

l ve heard alot of rumour, against this Ministry that is rebuking sinners and wishing their members heaven at last. Well it didnt start today, they even said Christ was performing with belzibub (evil spirit) 2000 yrs ago. I don't like been judgemental. Infact i am contepleting to join these elderly, not too rich, heaven consious and holiness preaching people, to worship the only one God we have, while we wait for rapture. Remember the Bible says "without holiness, no one can see God". God bless you

I have looked at the verse you pasted and I do not see where God said they should call him Chosen or if I say to someone 'I have chosen you' , does it make my name Chosen?

When we see irregularities (of doctrine not consistent with the bible) in any Christian body, we should denounce it vehemently without reservations, this was how many respected and ordained men of God entered heresy.

God of Chosen, God of my Pastor is nothing but absolute nonsense that have no basis in the Bible.

Philip 2:9-10
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.

It is at the mention of Jesus, not at the mention of God of my Pastor or God of Chosen.

The name is JESUS, if e no be panadol, e no b d same with panadol

When the center can't hold, things fall apart. Beyond some of our reserve denominated in China's currency, I don't think we have much to fear from China's economy fall.

plaetton: @op.
Why would the hilarious shananigans of this particular fringe evangelical cult
seem like a surprise to you?
C'mon. What would religion be like if it did not produce mentally ill people by the truckloads?
What would religion be if pastors , religious conmen and other elites of the religilous racket did not attempt deify themselves by adding mysteries and arrogating divine authority to themselves and their cult?
This is basic brainwashing 101.
Stop pretending that you are actually shocked.

I don't know what you are driving at but generalizing doesn't make much sense without emperical data to back it.

[quote author=m-ployer]though I hav not commanded a miracle with the name "God of chosen " before, but I believe God can invest power in anything He likes including names. He is a God of variety and can manifest in any form He so desires. My elder brother is a chosen member and I tell u his life has changed greatly since he joined the ministry.[/quote]He has invested in the name of Jesus, there is no other name under heaven given to men. Thank God for your bro, we need someone from that ministry to confirm this news.

hisblud: For me i have once watch his satelite programme but never consistent. I hope someone will clarify the statement that is bolded from the Lord's chosen.

Let's wait for someone (a member) to clear the air on this.

@OP
Is that article for real,is the magazine issued by the chosen ministry?

striktlymi: The bold is the reason why the venture will not be worthwhile....

You are going to draw such conclusions on a random verse which you won't bother to share with a brother
*sighs* and exit thread

striktlymi: I can but it won't help!

Atleast I know you won't pick a random text (or out of context) verse. So make a try

striktlymi: You do not hold Sacred scriptures in high esteem, so you are in no position to tell me what scriptures teach or not.

Says who?, do you care to validate your earlier claim with the scriptures?

I have heard of some disturbing news about that ministry recently, while I do not know how true those news are, I however have problem with their style of evangelism. They seems to promote more of their Church denomination and Pastor than the Gospel.

striktlymi: Lol!!!

I am a Christian and you know for sure that I will say Christianity...a Muslim would say Islam...and so forth.

But the absolute TRUTH is that the Children of God can be found in every religion and irreligion.

Ultimately, what matters to God is the sincerity of each individual's heart in doing what he or she considers good in line with the principles of right conduct and good conscience.

Except in the Traditions of Daddy Francis, this is not a teaching of the bible

Chiefupper: It was another miraculous work of Allah as yet to be identify Angel descends from heaven and landed on ka'abah(cube) located at the central part of the holiest place in the world,the Angel spent some seconds and ascends back to heaven.ALLAHU AKBAR!!! Source;http:// cdn.top4top.net/
d_d124d413290.mp 4

Small pikin dey worry dat demon?

mimi77: Hi ppl,
wots going on?
The thread has been silent for a while now.
Hope y"all are going smooth with your application thus far.
Its getting more interesting by the day.
God is with us
and will see us through successfully

One love!

How far with yours?

There is nothing like CONSISTENCY in this agbero's dictionary.