₦airaland Forum

Obiagu1:
No bros, those borders were local borders not international borders.

how do you mean by being local border and not international. Which map was with UN as at 1960.

Below is the official map as at 1960, we shall revert to.

Again, Asaba is in Western Region. Deal with it.

Kestolovee95:
But Ibn Ayatollah rauf aregbe, has banned free waec fees and free food in yorubaland. Shouldn't that be of prime importance to you?Mr animal handler?


www.nairaland.com/2736108/dont-money-osun-stops-full

Mr. Road cleaner, it is my prerogative to determine what is of prime importance to me and not that of Mr Road Cleaner.

Obiagu1:
That border is not internationally recognised if you know what I mean.

Joker.

As at 1960 when the British were giving us independence, what did the map of Nigeria says -- Northern Western and Eastern regions.##that is the recognised international border.

Guess what, Asaba i in Western Region. Deal with it.

Obiagu1:
This thread was initially made in 2012 before there was IPOB. It was based on my knowledge of events and history.
I bet you, this is what will happen eventually.

What will eventually happen is the actualisation of the northern, western and eastern regions. Guess what, Asaba will be under west.

ok now

Biafra-ud has failed to woo the SS people, you are now using another method to coerce them

Why are you afraid to stand alone as Biafra-ud or Republic of Alaigbo?

You are not clamouring for the old northern, western and eastern region because Asaba will fall under west.

We can see through your fallacy. Try harder.

The gateman 419-ed the Biafra-sters by calling himself David Cameron.

Imagine the laughter of the gateman after closing that door.




You better change the headline to ''Biafra-sters meet the gateman at 10 Downing Street.''

Bunch of deluded jokers. Na so dem dey secede!!!!!!

This is the china tablet he used to enrich his son -- Kabiru.

I hope the curses of people will not keep fighting in his lineage until the 14th generation.

EUROBOMBER:
This simple political arithmetics is what my people have refused to recognise out of ridiculous pride.

If the we can reach out to the west and parts of the north the presidency is already taken.

Instead of us to calm down and do this my people are shouting Biafra which we all know is somehow linked to Jonathan's defeat whose people now call as expantionists.

To be candid, the Igbos have the right to call for secession if that is their dream and aspiration.

The question remains, why are they calling others unprintable names just because they want to achieve their aim. FOr that reason alone, others will gladly frustrate their effort just to jeopardise their ambition, ambition and dream.

Moreover, is the clamour for secession being done the right and constitutional way? It is more of an intellectual warfare that involves high level politicking, tact and subtle but efficient diplomacy, both locally and at international level. They will abuse yorubas, northerners,SS people that does not believe in their dreams, britain, catholic church etc. Who will ever take them serious? No region can secede alone or even alter the constitution alone without bridge building.

How many pro-biafra activists have they elected into positions of authorities to be shouting for their cause in Abuja? None. Even the regional party that was started by the biafran warlord Ojukwu is near comatose --AkPuGA.

Kanu will not be released and the world will forget him in that dungeon by December and move on and NOTHING will happen. The best that can happen, is the continued locking up of shops in SE for early morning jogging exercise.

meezynetwork:
Sorry to burst your bubble, in 2007, the leading two contestant were Buhari and yar'adua from the same state of kastina unlike obasanjo and falae who were from different state

Joker.

We were talking of pre-1999.

EUROBOMBER:
I am not arguing with you on the fact that two Yorubas were fielded. My point is that the SW as a zone went for Falae yet he did not win. My point is that the votes of a single zone cannot make a man president.

Gbam.

Not even 1 zone. Even 2 or 3 might not. The combo of SE, SS and NC can never deliver a presidential win against SW, NW and NE.

Politicking is all about bridge building and positioning, instead of continuous and sustained relationship destruction via calling of other unprintable names, born out of inferiority complex, lack of political sagacity and acumen to effectively navigate the stormy political water of this country.

They thrive under disordeliness.

No wonder they usually kick against bringing sanity into our market places in SW. They always term it to be -- "they hate us".

This says it all.

EUROBOMBER:
I don't agree with your point 1 because it can happen to any geopolitical zone.

It happened to the Yorubas in 1999 when they all voted for Falae yet Obasanjo won, will you then say that they lack political value?

What happened to the Igbos this year is a political miscalculation which I believe we should accept, correct them and aim higher.

We did not vote for OBJ in 1999 but we were certain that head or tail, one of us was becoming the president and we so care less.

Infact the slogan in SW then was "it is either Olu or Olu".

In the annals of Nigeria's history where have you seen the two leading contenders being fron.the same ethnicity, region or hemisphere, apart from that election?

That is yoruba's political sagacity at play.

That says it all.

kingzizzy:
There were Biafran protest during the time of GEJ by MASSOB and BZF ( Biafran Zionist Federation). Have we all forgotten how Ben Onwuka of and his BZF attacked Government House Enugu and hoisted the Biafran flag? Have we forgotten how they were later arrested when they attacked a television station? The main reason why the Biafran agitation has reached this level was the coming of Radio Biafra and Nnamdi Kanu. Kanu took the Biafran struggle to an unprecedented level never witnessed before using propaganda. The coming of Buhari was also a stark reminder that whenever the Yorubas and their northern compatriots come together, they decide the political future of Nigeria and that is unacceptable to any well meaning person from the SS/SE area.

Nigeria is fraud, it has always been that way since Lugard created it and I wonder why as an Igbo man, I should be in the same country with people I share nothing in common with such as the Yoruba or Hausa man. Everbody eventually breaks out to make their own destiny and Biafra is no exception.

When Zik came together with Balewa, did you see yoruba whining about it like bush babies you lots are?

When Ekwueme came together with Shagari, did you see yorubas rolling on the floor and wailing like y1bos are doing?

When Arthur Nzeribe came together with IBB to thwart June 12 won by a Yoruba man, did you see yorubas calling y1bos names because of that?

When Daniel Kanu organised a 5million man match for Abacha over June 12 issue, did you see yorubas calling for the heads of y1bos?

Those are just few but key coming together of the y1bos and northerners.

Keep licking your pain till 2039 because after Northerners are through in 2023, SW will take over till 2013 and after that notherners again till 2039 and if you are lucky and well behaved enough by then, we might pity you in 2039 if SS is magnanimous enough.

ichidodo:
[color=#1986BC] It should spread in the nearest future as you all realise Lagos is home to more than 3 million igbos... [/color]

For the sake of those 3milllions, keep your jogging exercise to your side of the country.

The flogging of that garrulous and fake Eze will be nothing compared to what you will be inviting on those 3millions.

There is something weird about the way y1bos use the word 3million every now and then.

The question should be:

will the early morning jogging exercises spread to Kano?

Before they move the early morning jogging train to Lagos, they should endeavour to ask their fathers about Ore first.

I am done with being party of the pity party for the Kogi people that the barbaric fulanis are killing like chickens, if they cannot pity themselves by organising themselves into an effective, rapid response, efficient and stealth militia too.

You confront madness with super madness. Let your attack go right into the heart of the fulani land, if they have any anyway, creating enough buffer between your homeland and the violence starting point.

So that when negotiation starts, you will have the upper hand.

chukwudi44:
Okay let me reply you!! Ojukwu is dead but is the Biafran agitations dead? Unless the root causes of the agitations are addressed,the agitations will continue to grow until it finally destroys this country

Pa Chukwudi,

At your quarter-to-join-your-ancestors age, you are not expected to be supporting hate mongering and speeches. You are a disgrace to elderly people and whosoever that is calling you either a daddy or uncle should feel sorry for himself.

What do I even expect from an old f00l that is using his old age to support corruption. No wonder you have never amounted to any thing in life, apart from the memory of how you were resoundingly defeated by Nigeria.

I do not even know who is worse between you or that older f00lish man Duru1 aka Deludedgull.

If these are the kind of old men in alaigbo, then it explains why your land is despicable and desolate.

The Ayatollah of Biafra-ud, the Supreme Leader of Alaigbo, the Lunatic Albino god of Igbos, th only online president in the world and the 3rd President of the imaginary biafra-ud republic aka The Dilector actually has a father and mother.!!!!!!! Chineke mehhhhhhhh

@ the parents -- you actually gave birth to Satan incarnate in the heart of the Jungle of Biafra-ud. By the time Nigeria is through with the deliverance session that is being conducted on him, all the evil spirits in him will be exorcised and cast to Sahara Desert and your son will be better for it, by being a new man.

"Nigeria guarantees freedom of speech and expression but it does not guarantee your freedom after a treasonable felony act, hate preaching, instigation of violence and public disturbance"

Rights and Freedom are not absolute. They come with a responsibility. Failure of you to fulfil your responsibility means you will also relinquish your right and freedom as the reaction to your irresponsible action.

@ the jobless noise making and chest beating almajiri nyamiris----- are you tired of your early morning jogging exercise?

The Ayatollah of Biafra-ud, the Supreme Leader of Alaigbo, the Lunatic Albino god of Igbos, th only online president in the world and the 3rd President of the imaginary biafra-ud republic aka The Dilector actually has a father and mother.!!!!!!! Chineke mehhhhhhhh

@ the parents -- you actually gave birth to Satan incarnate in the heart of the Jungle of Biafra-ud. By the time Nigeria is through with the deliverance session that is being conducted on him, all the evil spirits in him will be exorcised and scast to Sahara Desert and your son will be better for it, by being a new man.

"Nigeria guarantees freedom of speech and expression but it does not guarantee your freedom after a treasonable felony act, hate preaching, instigation of violence and public disturbance"

Rights and Freedom are not absolute. They come with a responsibility. Failure of you to fulfil your responsibility means you will also relinquish your right and freedom as the reaction to your irresponsible action.

@ the jobless noise making and chest beating almajiri nyamiris----- are you tired of your early morning jogging exercise?

These coys have taken Nigeria for long.

damton:
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THIS AMOUNT IS EXTREMELY ENORMOUS FOR THE FINE.

there is nothing outrageous in the fine.

it was a sanction that all telcoms coys signed willingly and not under duress. Why others complied to a large extent, MTN did not even make effort to comply.

people were being kidnapped with the sims, BH was using it freely in their operations etc.

Should we keep sacrificing our national security because of a South African company? Tell me a sane country where they can do that and get a way with?

Osomalo:
It has spread to town, gone are the days when it was restricted to campus.

Lord have mercy.

No wonder the likes of Mushin and Bariga are always witnessing incessant violence and blood org.ies.

Osomalo:


Someone who's looking for death meets someone who is going to kill him.

Imagine a bout between Osomalos and Flateenos, the ticket would sell out in few hours.

My parents went to do Osomalo in Ife in the 70s. We were all born and raised at Ife. I learnt a lot from my Mom, she's a successful trader.

Osomalo was an effective system, unfortunately most of Ijesha youths of nowadays are after quick wealth. They are either scamming oyinbos on internet or doing drug business. Things have changed. Na cultism dey reign now sef, I fear for the future of our unborn generation in Yorubaland.

Cultism bawo?

i thought that was out of fashion before i even left uni.

Yahoo things, okada riding and perceived apathy towards education are the main threats to future generations of people in the lower wrung of the ladder in yorubaland.

day dreamers. They want to reap where they did not sow.

They should galvanise AkPuGA to a national party level, if they want Chivita or 5 Alive appointments.

raumdeuter:
I used to be Dayokanu but changed it after Germany won the world cup because of a vow I made to honor Thomas Muller.
I announced the change of Name on the Bayern thread around July last year
On Politics, I used to be a legend in these part. I burnt down the whole place rebuilt it and burnt it down 5 times. Before taking my leave. To concentrate on Sports

The legendary dayokanu!!!!!

The albatross of the clowns from the of the Niger.

The Achilles heels of the jokers from lab o red mud

The slayer of the comedian from the land of gully erosion

Where is that mad girl - Ngozievergreen?

The only way out of this Sahara Desert that our thieving politicians have successfully navigated us into, is regionalism.

This will enable us to harness the resources and strength of the region collectively, instead of in piece meal we are presently witnessing.

Ritchiee:
This is no propaganda,Uncle,I am sorry,are you a politician?I am not.I am only very passionate about my Yoruba race and any party that would put Yorubaland where it rightly belongs,then I am game without forgetting my fellow homosapiens...

I am not a politician.

Try to understand what I am saying. I did not use the word propaganda to debunk the report.

I am only telling you that the politicians are majorly responsible for the over bloated recurrent expenditure, which is not a true reflection of the actual recurrent expenditure.

Shymm3x:
How's it propaganda? The stats was released by a Nigerian agency headed by a Yoruba person.

We need to start questioning these governors.

It is a propaganda in the sense that the bulk of those recurrent expenditures and overheads are finding their ways into the pockets of some people.

Those are the lies being peddled around by the governors as an excuse.

The report is looking at the recurrent expenditure in absolute figure. It did not recognised the fact that politicians have inflated the workforce.

Shymm3x:
I already alluded to this by calling it "man-made black hole for looting funds". And no one on here has said anything against the civil services and what it represents.



However, are they borrowing to do that? Once you start borrowing to meet recurrent expenditure, how will you even be able to finance capital/revenue expenditure to boost IGR? That's what we're complaining about on how they're running the recurrent expenditure alone in deficit.

Anyway, you'd agree with me that a lot of Yoruba folks are useful idiots, yes?

Shymexx, do not be deceived.

If they tell you they are borrowing to meet recurrent expenditures, just ask them how much was the wage bill before they took over and how much is it now?

Let them show the corresponding productivity that followed the increase in wage bill.

You will realise it is all propaganda. The reality is they say all that to cover up their unrestrained looting.

For most of you outside the country, you need to understand that the civil service plays a dual role. It is a civil service, as well as our form of social security programme. If the exact number that is needed is being adhered to rigidly as the workforce in form of civil service, thousands more will be jobless and the social insecurity and it's other attendant risks multiplies too.

The bane of the civil services is not productivity in totality , it is the ghost workers sneaked in by fraudulent civil servants and politicians.

Borrowing is not a bad thing at all, if you are sincere enough to utilise the borrowed money on developmental projects and infrastructures, that will motivate people to pay their tax, thereby increasing IGR and the repayment of such borrowing is expected to be guaranteed.

Is that what we have in reality in SW states? No. What we have is a situation where some politicians borrow in the name of the state, embezzle or cannot account for a sizeable amount of the borrowed fund, use a little to do a project that would be completed and abandon the rest of the projects.

With this they would have enriched themselves and their great grand children, while the children of the masses will keep paying back the borrowing that is in the pockets of the children of some bastar.ds.

It's a cycle that will ensure the children of the thieves keep lording it over the children of the masses.

How are we different from the northerners?

We are even worse of because we are expected to be educated.

The onus lies on us to start the campaign against this fraudulent people, that plunged our states into irredeemable debt.

They stole the money for their great grand children and they expect the children of.others to repay it.

Osun remains the worst. There is no value for money in anyway. There is no correlation between the indebtedness and the infrastructure on ground at all.