₦airaland Forum

NotJustOkay:
Point out the lie wawa. How many millions did you give Gej in kano in 2015?

My friend, get lost. I'm done with you.

NotJustOkay:
[s]You would have made sense if igbos were able to give Gej 1m votes in kano in 2015 since your population in kano is 4m according to ohaneze.

Voting population is diff from actual population. igbo voting population in sw is not up to 300k[/s].

You are a liar. Face front

danie09:
then I will have to conclude you don't know much about the Yoruba's .they would have easlily swing towards kwakwanso ,tanbuwal or any other contestant with the exception of atiku and saraki and saraki for the obvious reason that he's desperate and not trustworthy. You can ask around most Yoruba's hate obasanjo with passion. And his only crime is that they believe his 8years civilian rule was riddled with massive looting and self enrichment and he neglected his region in terms of development and they also tag atiku to his sins cos they ruled together. Except only if atiku is ready to invest billions into vote buying .he might not get any tangible vote from the west and mind you all 6states are now APC controlled ..

May God spare our lives to witness the next election.

We shall see.

Hotfreezer:
Bro, no need to let the cat out of the bag. Those who are kicking the SE about like a sagging scrotum know how worthless the SE is compared to the SW.

The truth is this: the SW has the capacity to swing election results and has been doing this. The SE on the other hand is very predictable and this predictability is a problem for them.

That predictable block from the SE and SS is crucial to Atiku now because these regions are reliable.

SW votes will split.

There is nothing special about SW voting pattern. If you are thinking you are too much because Buhari won in 2015 there's nothing special about that because the Igbos did same many years ago with Shagari and Ekwueme.

Besides, the MB also played a key role in 2015 yet you don't see them beating chest everywhere.

ORIENTATION101:
i [s]telling you the fact the largest concentration of igbos voters in south west is lagos they re not up to 300 000.
i work for inec in 3 seperate election years 2007 2011 2015 only few igbos participate in election here in lagos.forget about nairaland noise here .
igbos couldnt save jimi agbaje after promising to upgrade eze ndigbo .[/s]

Take your lies elsewhere.

danie09:
my point is most of those non yorubas will also vote for APC .but the decider in all geopolitical zones will always be the locals

I am not disputing that.

I am telling you that many Yourubas are willing to give Atiku a chance seeing the deplorable state Nigeria is currently in.

With or without a SW VP, Yoruba votes will split.

danie09:
there is a large % of northerners in the south west also.the beggars, cart pushers, shoe shiners etc

Thank God you agree

NotJustOkay:
where do these foolish thinking come from? Why not check the gap between apc and pdp in the 2015 election in ondo and ekiti? who voted for adeleke in just concluded osun election? Are those ones ibos too? look, I'm a politician myself, no outsider can determine the outcome of election in any region in Nigeria. Why don't you ibos influence votes in the north? Ohaneze said there are 11 million ibos in the north. why did't you give pdp 5 million votes in 2015?

foreigners will alwaysa vote according to the dictate of indigenes. No ibo man dare vote against my party in my polling booth or they are not even allowed to vote.

Seun, INEC to take note of this comment.

danie09:
ya'll need to stop this wrong assumption of a large population of Igbo voters in sw.such nonsense doesn't exist.what happened in2015 won't repeat itself.there's a different government in office and for Christ sake .millions of Nigerians see atiku as a corrupt man they can't trust with the treasury

The truth is that a significant percentage of the voting population in the SW are not Yoruba.

This is not up to 50% as exaggerated by some posters but I am sure it's considerable.

Fawklicant:
It would be a death knell for atiku if SE is ignored for that position. The SW votes is already divided. Igbos and other tribes own a huge chunk of the SW votes, Lagos ,Ogun and even NC like Abuja come to mind. SE/SS is the only place he can get block votes unadulterated. If they have a sense of vested interest, then expect massive voting of pdp in SW/SS.
Registered voters in SW is around 7million. SW is 14million and that includes SE, SS, MB and other non indigenous tribes. Let's even say they constitute only 2million of the lot, the balance 12million is already divided along several political considerations.
Atiku should be guided properly.

SW votes will be split whether Atiku takes a VP from the SW or SE.

He should get a firm grip of the SE & SS.

ORIENTATION101:
you guys will just be pulling out stats from thin air like igbos 30%. of south west like re u kidding me .
apart from lagos and ogun .igbos populations in osun, ondo, ekiti,and oyo state is not up to 800,000

i am a yoruba i have worked for inec ,2007,2011 and 2015 in southwest . i can tell you igbos dont have up to a 1 million voters in whole south west.

60% of igbos in south west re petty traders ,majority of them dont participate in election.

if you re living in southwest i want to give you an assignment in next election.
go round all polling boths in the local govt u stay and check the names of list for accreditations and confirm this yourself.

You're a liar to say that Igbos don't have to 1m voters in the entire SW.

danie09:
unfortunately atiku isn't the change most yoruba clamour for. Most of them see him as a carbon copy and share the same hatred they have for their son obasanjo . they see him as a corrupt fellow who laid the foundation for corruption after the nation's return to democracy and his unwillingness to travel to the united states is a big turn off for most people.

There are still many Yorubas that are willing to give Atiku a chance because of the condition of the country now.

There's so much frustration and hunger in the country. Ask around.

deomelo:
According to ipobs on NL...

I am not IPOB and have nothing to do with IPOB

Sanchez01, your analysis is flawed and let me tell you why:

1. It is common knowledge that there are millions of Igbos in the SW especially Lagos, there's no argument about this. The 14m voters in the region are not all Yoruba. Millions are Igbos. Check the numbers in the SW between Jonathan and Buhari in 2015. Also check the numbers between Ambode and Agbaje in the same year to confirm this.

2. Even if Atiku picks a VP from the SE, Yoruba votes would be split between Buhari and Atiku. Same thing will happen if he picks a VP from the SW, some Yourubas will still vote for Buhari. It won't make much difference.

3. Atiku cannot risk voter apathy in the SE & SS regions. If he makes the mistake, APC will quickly take advantage and run him over.

4. Many Yoruba are already tired of Buhari and the fraudulent change. There's so much frustration in the land. Many will vote for Atiku even if he picks a VP from the SE.

Seun, lalasticlala

deomelo:
With ipobs supporting Hausa Fulani Muslim as their lord and savior, you know pigs are actually flying.


This is what you get when you have zero sens of propose, when you are aimless, when you have zero sense of belonging and self worth.



Who swear for you people sef?

Buhari has already lost the election.

Wait and see.

*ATIKU VS BUHARI; WHITHER TILTS THE PENDULUM?*

No doubt both candidates above are formidable in their own right, but let's look at their individual strength; *this is purely my personal analysis*. Though I would have preferred a Dakwambo or a Tambuwal, but when the desirable is not available the available becomes the desirable. *This is not about social media noise of SAI BABA but the reality on ground!*

Let's consider the following points; why Atiku has a better advantage.

1. Atiku and Buhari are both Muslims and full blooded Fulanis, so the Hausa-Fulani ethnic stock, won't be concerned on who emerges.

2. The Northern Elders forum will always go for Atiku. Recall in 2007/2011, when the Northern Elders chaired by the late Ciroma, was faced with who to choose between Atiku, Aliyu Gusau, Buhari and Saraki, they unanimously choose Atiku; check records.

3. Integrity; Atiku has integrity issues so has Buhari; Before 2015, Buhari was viewed as a saint and has cult followership, but since, he was given that opportunity, he has not been able to deliver anything meaningful. Change sermon has seriously depleted and doesn't ring bell anymore. Besides Intels, Halliburton & Siemens scandal, APC doesn't have much against Atiku.

4. The Caliphate and Emirate council have withdrawn their support from Buhari. Recall that the Sultan of Sokoto was amongst the first to congratulate Tambuwal during his defection from APC to PDP. The Emir of Kano has always been an Ally of Atiku and he has been vocal against the misgovernance of this administration. Go and Write it down, once the Sultanate and Emirate is against your ambition in the core North, just go and rest.

5. Virtually all Notable religious leader in the North is against Buhari from Sheik Gumi, El ZakZaky, etc. They have been going everywhere campaigning against Buhari, regretting while they voted against Jonathan.

6. Military Establishment from Danjuma, IBB, Abdusalam, etc are already scared that PMB will turn into full scale dictatorship if re-elected. Besides OBJ, who may reconcile with Atiku in the next coming days, they will prefer anybody but PMB.

7. APC is currently in shambles right now. Consequent upon the primaries which is still going on as I write. Aisha Buhari has cried out, Governors Yari, Bello, Amosun, Akeredolu, El Rufai, etc are threatening brimstone and fire. I don't envy Oshiomole at all. Almost all the states APC is in control are having major crisis resulting from the conduct of the primaries. Adams automatic tickets to loyal Senators has backfired. Okorocha just returned himself and his son-in-law as Senatorial and guber aspirants respectively. And so on and so forth. I see this challenges snowball into unmanageable monumental crisis.
PDP to my astonishment achieved almost 90% rancour free primaries! And they will reap abundantly from the APC crisis!

8. Atiku political foray started more than 30years ago. You can see how he earlier rejected PH as venue for the convention, but later accepted and beat Wike to his game. The reason Atiku has not won the Presidency is because he has never emerged the candidate of a major National political party; ACN then was just a regional party. *With almost a limitless and unmatchable financial war chest, he will deploy his financial arsenal, knowing this is his last shot at the Presidency* I doubt if any politician as prepared as him.

9. The average Northerner likes power so much, whether they benefit or not. They know if PMB wins he has just 4 years, but if Atiku wins he might have 8 years. *I tell you with their penchant for love of power they might tilt towards Atiku because of another 8years!*

10. Recall that Atiku inherited the late Shehu Yaradua political machinery the SDM; even in Katsina he is loved because of this relationship. Most SDM members in other political parties will work for him. The roll call includes; IBB, Orji Uzor Kalu, Tony Anenih, Kingibe, Ibori, Lamido, Aliyu, etc.

11. The business establishment like banks, conglomerates, oil majors, magnates, business moguls, captains of industries, Importers/Exporters, etc will go for Atiku any day any time, you can take that to the bank

12. Religious bodies are already frustrated with PMB; There is no major Christian denomination who supported PMB in 2015, who are still with him now. From CAN, PFN, Oyedepo, Adeboye, Lazarus Mouka, Mbaka, Paul Enenche, Sulaiman, Bakare, etc has abandoned the change project. *Atiku will win majority Christian vote and divide Muslim vote with Buhari*

13. The Academia and the Labour movement have not hidden the direction they will go in 2019; it's almost anybody but Buhari.

14. Atiku's greatest selling point has been restructuring, but PMB doesn't even talk about it. The Southern and Middle Belt leaders will mobilise support for Atiku; Ohaneze, PANDEF, Afenifere, Middle Belt Forum, etc. Take my words to the bank!

15. Atiku will sweep votes from the North East; the sentiments are rife that no North-Eastern individual has ruled this country as President before! He will whip that sentiments massively. Watch Atiku, his propaganda campaign machinery might be second to none!

16. Just like PDP propaganda machine pushed PMB to victory in 2015, I see APC making a bigger blunder than PDP on Atiku. The way and manner they have started attacking Atiku even before campaign proper will eventually, endear Atiku more to the electorates. Remember how they lost Osun in the first round of voting regardless of the avalanche of attacks against Adeleke!

17. Geopolitical zonal permutations; SS & SE is already a given for Atiku. Atiku has always been a darling of the SW, besides the fact, that his most popular wife Titi is from there. In fact in the just concluded PDP National convention, the SW voted for him en block. Afenifere has been on the fore front of restructuring. In fact Pa Adebanjo, Reuben Fasoranti and Olu Falaye have said Atiku is the only candidate to implement restructuring. Middle Belt and North Central will go for Atiku. With the likes of IBB, Abdusalami, Saraki, Ortom, Useni, Mama Taraba, Mark, Gemade, Jonah Jang, etc leading the charge. They all believe Atiku is a moderate. NE is gone because of the earlier stated sentiments. NW votes will be splited; if Kwankwanso, Tambuwal, Lamido, Datti Ahmed, Turaki, Markafi, etc all agreed to work for Atiku, PMB will win NW, but Atiku will pick serious votes there. *Recall Zamfara is almost gone with Governor Yari defection few days away*

Let me stop here before I start answering questions, I don't have answers for.

2019 is very interesting; Muslim VS Muslim, Fulani VS Fulani, Former APC VS current APC, North VS North, money versus more money. This is my veiw from daks.

Augustine Idahosa

raumdeuter /dayokanu. gurnam / ilugunboy. abduljabbar4

Shuku0kukobambi:
Will you prostinute yourself or not if Atike picks a Yoruba VP? Will you continue Atikulating even then?

We will give Atiku full support even if he picks a Yoruba VP.

We are ready to make any sacrifice to see that Buhari returns to his 150 cows in Daura next year.

Buhari is a narrow minded bigot while Atiku is not. That is the difference.

Lalasticlala

sarrki:
President of ipobians

You just being f00lish.

Your attempt to paint Atiku as IPOB has failed already.

EasternActivist:
You are OYO.

Ekweremadu is highly qualified just as any other person with an Igbo root.

So guide your utterances if you ain't an afonja who wanna spite sisters.

Ekweremadu is a big No.

He will not sell in the SW.

QuotaSystem:
Unfortunately you failed to discount for the electoral strength of the regions. SE & SS combined are just 15 million voters strong (assuming 100% turnout).

Even with the 60% victory you've accorded to Buhari in the NW, that's 11 million votes already from the North west alone which has neutralized the entire votes of the SE (7 million) and over half of the SS votes which are Atiku's only strongholds. Remember that with Oshiomole, Amaechi, Akpabio et al the SS will be shared with President Buhari.

With a SE VP, just forget the southwest as Atiku will struggle to get 25% in most of the SW States which adds another possible 10 million votes to Buhari's kitty.

For the reasons I stated, PMB will also sweep the NE but I don't expect a fact-lacking person to agree. In fact, we haven't even accounted for federal might and the extra million votes PMB will get in Boko haram freed regions where people couldn't vote in 2015 due to PDP's corruption and incompetence in battling the insurgency .

The only states where votes will be significantly shared are the 4 states in the NC already mentioned. Clear victory for PMB to the discerning.

2019 is pregnant .

Atiku will eventually defeat Buhari.

The two will almost go neck-to-neck in the entire North combined and the South will determine the winner.

Atiku will defeat Buhari in the South.

PassingShot:
This[s] drug addict is only taken serious by his fellow frustrated perpetual wailers.

His own major frustration has to do with his ongoing looting case and the fact that he can’t move out of Nigeria like Omokirikiri and Diezanni his fellow looters.

If it remains one vote for Atiku to win, APC must manufacture two. Yes, I said it.

Nonsense![/s]

Go and kill yourself. You sound so frustrated and bitter.

OlaAshawo:
chaii who told me that our own sani that is outspoken will allow greed to destroy him i won't believe

this was the first person i taught will decamp but at the dying minute he rubbished his legacy because of just 100 million naira thinking his longest time enemy Elrufai will suddenly forgive him

no single pity for him

was very suprised when i heard apc gave him automatic ticket

even cilicmarin was suprised

Omisore own loading

unless no be apc i know

Serves Shehu Sani right.

He should be thoroughly dealt with and disgraced.

He ought to have decamped to PDP since but made a sudden u-turn. I was so surprised.

xbernardx:
That is how you keep winning only on nairaland

The same way APC was winning on Nairaland in 2014/2015

gurnam:
Our sure customer

Just like your god Buhari.

Ilugunboy don't you have shame?

At some point you said you would no longer support Buhari, have they settled you now?

seunmsg:
The serial loser is back to lose as usual.

Your god Buhari was also a serial loser or have you forgotten?

Don't you have shame?

Corrinthians:
If any of those national assembly members really has anything that resembles a brain, and functions like a brain, inside their head, they'd begin to think along the line of formulating a law that forbids all these nomadic attitude of politicians.

If they can't seem to have any respectable ideology, then they must be FORCED BY LAW to have one.

Correct.

Good job

franozx:
@ op pls are you a tax payer in Lagos? do you reside in Lagos? or are you just a concerned Yoruba who isnt a lagosian but concerned about Lagos due to its heritage and wealth?

I am Igbo and resident in Lagos

KwoiZabo:
We are taking it serious because the FG left a lot of asset in Lagos a a defunct capital and Tinubu's Dynasty is looting it.

Are we the only ones in Lagos?

Why are others not carrying this matter on their head like agbo the way we do?

Think