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shantti:
I asked u the question cos u were making a baseless assumption. On the contrary all u wrote in the first paragraphs only applies to women but the aren't intelligent enough to tolerate themselves. I am a man who has lived with a fellow man during my school day and during my NYSC, I can bodly tell u that the only time we had issues was when our girlfriends lived with us, so for what benefit would you peddle a lie that men pretends. Pretends to what end, pretend to impress who. Let me tell u this, men value their peace, if there are in an environment where their peace of mind is threatened, they simply walk away, yeas it's in our nature. One of the jargons you typed was this men's bad character gets reinforced due to natural operand conditioning,. What the Bleep is this? Why do u like to make baseless assumptions?

I like how you did the cherry picking. So you haven't seen men discuss politics, history, inventions, climate change, it is so common. Why didn't u go ahead to expose what women typically discuss, zee world, Brazilian wig, BBL, fake lives, so just cherry picked to suit ur stupid narrative.

Your third paragraph is trash cos it reeks of sentimentalism, yes men discuss football, but they also engage in intelligent conversations unlike women who only rubbish that has no relevant to humanity.

All your writeup are baseless accusations on d male gender. So many silly assumptions

You are not even logical enough to engage me, absorbing bad character don't make you logical but it seems you don't know the meaning of logic, and from every indication you are the type of men that stress other.
If you talk about tolerance its the lower animals that tolerate the most , eg you ants, non primate Mammals like sheep, or you mean men tolerate each other more than ants or sheep

reddingtonblack:
I am curious change is environment to where ?? lekki, magodo or banana island.

Reading your comment i want to give you the benefit of doubt you don't understand the angle OP is coming from, you are just in an haste play the role of a white knight

Lemme give an instance, if a guy and a lady happens to find themselves in a terrible situation, the possibility the gurl will spend her time crying, confused and nagging about the problem is 90% while
If a guy finds himself in that situation the possibility he is exploring every angle for an immediate solution is 95%.

and i total disagree with you, Nigeria problem has nothing to do with "unintelligent" as you it, rather the issue is those we elect are "RULERS" not "LEADERS" take your time to ponder

You only gave an example of how women and men react to threatening situation and fear, but this is because women are weaker and less confident at attacking.
Have you compared how different gender respond to other emotions

shantti:
U have totally shifted the goal post
I have many questions
How did u come to the conclusion that when men live together without issues, they are encouraging bad behavior. Where did this bad behavior emanante from. Can u give me a concrete evidence of this.

You haven't answered my question but you are asking me questions,

You can only deceive a woman that men live together without issues not a man.
Men are only good at pretending all is well. Many men have bad character same with women, but men's bad character gets reinforced due to natural operand conditioning, without punishing a bad character it gets amplified, same way men tolerate bad character from women/girls, hence amplifying it without knowing, and letter complain about it though by different men at different times but collectively as a group.
In principle women don't tolerate bad character from women and men, but only from a man they desire, hence the reason it confuses people like u.

Most men claim that women don't engage in meaning conversation, but it's the same with men, but only that the issue changed axis, eg most men talk about sex, women, foothball, for most men ... how to make money ( because the society conditioned them to do so) and won't go deeper in the discussion but how to make money through job,yahoo and other crimes, or other conventional method with nothing creative, move to innovative approach, most men will freeze like most women, tall about philosophy they will attack you, talk about future, science and technology you will be seen as a mad man, the list goes on and on,

The reality is that a man that spends most of his time talking about soccer which is like an advance gossiping will hate on women gossiping about celebrities, two of them are different forms of entertainment.
I bet that most men claiming to have the ability for meaning conversation can't stay for ten minutes to discuss the solution to the problems facing Africa and humanity, not to talk of origin of time, entropy, technological singularity, intelligence amplification etc.

shantti:
Lol, u wish😂😂😂😂😂
For u to even admit that women burst the bubble immediately and that men tolerate themselves means the op is damn right.
Tolerance is logical while bursting the bubble without thinking is an emotional behavior. But here u are from a sentimental and emotional point of view saying that tolerance is illogical while acting without thinking (bursting the bubble) is logical. Come on, u know u are wrong. Like, from the depth of your heart, u know u are not actually correct.


But wait, did u said that men envy each other and that women don't, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. This is the funniest effort I've seen that tries to twist the truth. Women that are synonymous with envy. I bet u, let your younger sister marry before u, u will poison her if u get the chance. Yes, ur gender are that envious. In fact, thousands of studies have even be made in this regard of females being very envious being, behold are some of them.

Notes.
1) Check my gender first
2) Read my comment again, i never said women are not envious etc
3)I insisted that on few men tolerate from the group not all men from the group, hence the person bearing the burden.
In principle one man does something other men claims the glory, same with inventions and discoveries, one man does it millions of other men that spend most of their time and resources with their like minded (women) claims the glory, saying after all we re all men.
But the irony of it, is that from a woman's frame of reference they see them( creative men, mostly Asperger's) as feminine men and not the masculine men they crave, most men that absorb others bad character are not exertive in nature. I don't have to go deeper it's a complex topic, and has been, since the earliest time of biological evolution.

And finally, since you claim you re logical what is the benefit of encouraging bad behavior in the name of tolerating, and a logical reason why saving time and resources as i mentioned, that gives peace of mind illogical to you.

shantti:
Then why is it that when two guys live together for a long time in the same room, they will hardly quarrel, u won't hear pim, but let two girls live together.............................


Also, why is it that ten brothers can live peacefully when they are unmarried, but immediately they bring in women into the family in the name of marriage, area go scatter..............

Because men are illogical at times, it makes no logical sense living together with people that hate,envy, use you, check very well most of them hate,envy each other and one or two amongst them are just tolerating the others but pretending that all is well, the reason with time men kill each other, brother/s kills brother/s, just that men are good at maintaining the bubble, and prevent escalation, but women don't maintain the fake bubble, they burst it, which saves time and resources, so from this situation you can see that women are more logical in human to human relations. But some men can argue that maintaining the bubble is the best decision, but in reality it only benefits the person not absorbing the problems or not acting as the unifier.

Sagamite:
This is a very fooooolish statement!

This is as foolish as saying "It depends on the situation, both genders can be short or tall".

This is STVPID!

Logic and hight are not related, have you considered comparing things like, intelligency etc, infact many scientific studies indicates that men are more emotional than women on average and also lesser intelligent than women on average.

Some men claim to be logical but makes illogical decisions, women understands women, men understands men, but not the other way around, hence the reason for confusion. But you can't come out of your cognitive bias because you are illogical or not logical enough.

Fallacy. I have seen countless illogical men, in general most people are not logical.
It depends on the situation, both gender can be illogical and logical.

Forced cashless policy, very wicked government.
Humanity is not matured enough for cashless policy, and the worst is developing countries, unless the economy is decentralized.
Centralized cashless economy = total control of the masses by the government (taking power away from people), and it makes it easier for external force to take over, just take the government then you have the people.
Anybody that supports decentralized cashless economy is against democracy, and must not criticize authoritarianism.

The reason Africa and Nigeria in particular cannot compete with other continent is not corruption but wickedness or selfishness. Wicked policies, Constitution etc

4 primitive students, they need to be jailed for assault.

The the UK/US cannot support any candidate that will not tolerate their exploitation and selfish agenda.

In terms of body Latinos are the best, and in terms of beautiful face indians are the best.

I hope you don't mistake gossipers,profilers,fault finders or even dump people that can't understand easily for intelligent.
The most reliable way to indentify intelligence is, auto-education.
Others are having pure and truthful logic, and admit not knowing something if he/she doesn't know without shame.
Non intelligent people mostly love lies and logical fallacy, the reason they say that "in the book of knowledge the first chapter is truth".
At certain age there are things one should know or figure out by themselves, depending on one's background and environment.

His chromosomes needs to be sequenced, he could be a female with a transposed male gene, or having a triploid 23rd chromosome, just for clarification. Which ever way one's gender should be based on visible primary gender specific features not by choice.

emmaodet:
Hmmmmmmmm

Na wa oooooo
So you are advocating for total robot interactions than humans? Despite billions of humans in the earth we can interact with?

It won't stop human-human interaction but emotional attachment and connection, humans are social specie, you can't be completely happy without deep connection and attachment or somewhat emotionally vulnerable, but today's society emotional vulnerability are exploited negativity, to make matters worst is trying to be emotionally vulnerable to a women, that's equal to digging your own grave and committing suicide.

emmaodet:
Noticed your conversation with a moniker about men having options.

For procreating, those options are okay but it goes far more than procreating.
We need a woman we can relate with virtually everyday, avoiding boredom and loneliness at old age, regular sexual partner because 90% of time we have sex, it is not because of babies rather pleasure so what will substitute this regular pleasure we derive from women? effectively

The solution to emotional connection you talk about is even more easy to achieve some prototype are already in use, an Artificially intelligent (AI) software/chatbot, hologram , computer generated image (CGI), can do that even better than real woman .
Currently many AI chatbot exist, that can hold a conversation, Even less developed AI chatbot like "Replica" can hold a conversation.

All you need is to give birth, and talk to your children, but if you want to have a personal connection with an entity go get an AI friend/partner, because biological entities are unreliable and choatic.

Most religious people are insincere , why not say that "what science and technology cannot do does not exist".
Give honour to whom honour is due. ( Prov 3:27, Rom: 13:7).

cococandy:
If men keep their sperm cells in their testicular regions, no eggs are getting fertilized and no procreation is happening. So this here is a convenient cop out use to abdicate responsibility to the other party. Another regurgitated talking point from the podcast bros that falls apart when you shine a small light of logic on it. Remember logic? The one you were just advocating for.






I see.

Women don’t want virgins or low body count men therefore men have to somehow get a bunch of sexual experience under their belt before settling down. But at the same time, the women within their community are somehow expected to be virginal and celibate.

Oh What a conundrum!

So it’s safe to say the lamentations are only beginning?

Example, to double a population in few years you need few men and Many women, but can't be achieved with many men and few women. Not to mention that they own natural incubator.
Women hold the key to the rate of population growth, one of the reason Muslims hardly give out women.
It might look like 50/50 but it's not, majority of the power belongs to women, especially the decision to be pregnant, because female fertility has window, but men don't. Possession of womb.
The fact that there are three arms of government don't mean that the power between them are shared equally.

The society/nobody is expecting men to be sexually experienced but women, same women want, all men turn bad boy. The list goes on and on. Then turn to complain about it. So help me ask women that demand sexually experienced men how they are going to get the experience.
The problem with women is insincerity, and greed,they should openly advocate what they want and be truthful about it.

Their demands are alway irrational and delusional. Since women demand irrational things, they should also provide a solution to it.

Gerrard59:
Never going to happen unless you want to usurp the tradition of bride-price and dowry across many cultures.

On the other hand, what Cococand.y meant is: you cannot expect women to be chaste while the men are doing brostitution upandown. While I understand that men pay the piper, hence, dictate the tune, it smacks of hypocrisy for the same men to harp on the need for virgins. Look at the Baze University's example, older men are literally spoiling and debasing these women with so much money for pleasure of 30 mintues. Tomorrow, the younger ones (who plan to do the same when they age) will chant "wE wAnT vIrGiNs". Like I argued here: https://www.nairaland.com/6643241/nigerian-men-failed-women If Nigerian men esp the young ones want their women to be virgins, they have to create an environment for that to thrive. These women no dey fvck themselves.

Virginity is prized in the Arab world largely because the men created that environment and the consequence are severe that even young Arab women who studied in western countries have to undergo hymenoplasty to re-fix the hymen so they get married. Meanwhile, in countries such as South Korea, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan etc., pre-marital sex is rampant but wedlock is rare because the men tolerate the former but not the latter. So, those East Asian women don't undergo hymenoplasty in a bid to get married. How many women have you heard/seen/read undergone hymenoplasty in Nigeria? But there has been a rise in plastic surgeons to add more flesh to the yansh and breasts because the men reward such behaviour.

In summary, "men create the system, women integrate into it." - Pansophis.t

It will happen if there's an alternative, rich men enticing girls with money, is like trade by batter, sell it for 100m, and forget about committed partner.
But if there's an alternative it will limit the rate and money that a rich man can pay in exchange because they will also go for the alternative. Ie sex will be so cheap that nobody will be willing to pay heavy amount to get it.
The reason It's important is because the sex balance between men and women are not equal, only small percentage of men had vs large percentage of woman.
So those men that had it all will stop looking for virgin, while majority men 80% that didn't have it all, won't be short changed. The problem stems from lack of balance. Women mostly copulate with men they know are not even interested in them or want anything serious.

The situation is beyond the Arabs because the world is now open, for such to work you need a system more closed than northkorea, but it's of no use because it is like managing unstable equilibrium which will definitely collapse into a stable ground state, it's better to work things from a stable ground state, a situation where women will make a choice on the part to choose.
Who told you Asian men like the situation, they're the first that started red pill movement,

Women doing plastic surgery do it for the affection of the few very rich men in the society, but won't admit it, most men don't even need much from women in terms of beauty. Most men would be happy with even below average women.
So nobody is driving them into surgery but greed, selfishness and hypergamy.

But if you followed by comments you won't be asking such questions,

The solution, create alternative, it will be disruptive at first then everything normalises, because famale nature adores competition, the reason they go after few men with high competition, and respect men with options. But humiliates and disrespect men without options.
Women control the gateway to procreation and most of sexual pleasure, that's an absolute power they have , but power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
In anything you do don't use religion as a reference, but logic and reasoning. Religion makes you go in circles, but logic gives direction.

To add; only an inexperienced or naive person/man believes women want a male virgin or chastity in men, all they do is reverse psychology to blackmail men into accepting high body count. Women willing give it out to the highest bidder, and claim victim.
To women the greater the body count the greater the appeal, often times irrelevant. So let no one ask me illogical question of male virgin, something they/ females don't value, dislike, as a good man am here to help some men understand reality not for illogical suggestions.
The question should be how do we create a society where women value chastity in men, off course by editing the Gene or DNA of human females.

begoniaa:
So which one do you REALLY want? A woman who has sexual restraint but is not a virgin or a 100% virgin?

Do you think women should stop having sex all together? Or they should have sex, but in measures?

I don't think these questions require all this back and forth, here and there, indirect long-winded responses you are giving...

Women need to be sexually free both married and single, it's not fair to restrain them from their true nature same with men, but at the same time, men deserves as the captain a virtuous companion, ironically a completely sexually free women is not a virtuous companion hence need for alternative.
Or maybe humanity can change their mentality towards sex, and create a society were anything goes, married or single, Young old.

Goodnigga:
A little epistle about origin of the woman-problem saga. Firstly, this thread is for guys on how to get quality women. I don't know why women are here commenting again. They don't have to be talking where guys are having their personal discussion.

That aside, women have always been a problem from the beginning. Scientifically, philosophically and biblically, I have been trying to deduce why women are the way they are: complicated, selfish, rude and troublesome. Science will say it is evolution or hormones or mood swings bla bla balderdash. Philosophy will tell me how to manage them, but the bible is the one that told me the truth. In the beginning, woman was created to be a supportive partner to Adam, however she tried to usurp the authority of Adam by eating the fruit so as to become wise ahead of Adam, but failed then convinced Adam to eat the fruit to prove he loved her and both became fallen creatures. God caused the ground for man, He didn't curse man directly but the ground. This is the origin of hardness of life and struggles of man. But He cursed Eve, immediately, the biological composition of Eve changed, pain, complicated-ness, moodiness and drama was introduced into her life. And God gave an order, you must always submit to your man and he shall rule over thee. Even the Apostles, said women (wives) submit to your men(husbands).

A man is not supposed to love a woman first. NO! That's not order of things. Woman must submit first to receive love from a man. This is because if a man loves a woman first, woman don't have the capacity to receive love without having worked for it. They will take the man for granted. But if the love is given as a reward for good behavior, they will cherish it. Never love a woman until she deserves it or has worked for it. A man doesn't need a woman's love but her respect. If she can respect or fear you , she can truly love you.

Someone was saying, women behave the way they behave because there are no options , no alternative to them. Going by what science said that we have 7 families of homo species, we being homo sapiens and the closest to us being homo erectus. I used to think why did homo erectus become extinct, at least these homo sapiens women we have presently, we could have easily forgotten them, and go for an alternative: which is homo erectus females.

Concerning quality women, only the Lord can give that, even Solomon said so. There are still virtuous women, but like in the days of Elijah, they may be hidden inside a cave. While Elijah thought that there were no more prophets left, God said I still have 7,000 who are yet to bow to Baal. That means with Prayer and faith and tactical approaches and search we can find our missing ribs. May God help all of us eligible bachelors to get our quality wives .

So you think women are foolish, they know what they are doing, infact women are more intelligent than men on average, try and bring a "second option" and see how they will become reasonable, understanding, respectful and good.
They know men will still manage them irrespective of their shortcomings because men have no alternative.

begoniaa:
So which one do you REALLY want? A woman who has sexual restraint but is not a virgin or a 100% virgin?

Do you think women should stop having sex all together? Or they should have sex, but in measures?

I don't think these questions require all this back and forth, here and there, indirect long-winded responses you are giving...

Most things are not simple and can't be, they're just complex by nature and requires effort and thinking, same with the topic at hand,

You ask as if you are going to provide the kind of woman now








Virgin would be first choice, who no like better thing.
Few body count, second choice
numerous body count, third choice.
Loot/nypho, fourth choice.
Poorrrnstar fifth choice.

Best combination virgin + mentally developed and respect
Secondly few body count and repented + mentally developed and respect.
Thirdly i don't think those ones can repent so No ! Unless there's a scientific undisputable proof of otherwise.

In all, mental development and respect is non negotiable, unless you can be total slave to me, like my external brain interface.

begoniaa:
You did not answer that question satisfactorily and direct!

How do we create a society in which women aren't overused? How do we ensure women stay virgins or have low body counts?



So, if I get you right, in a nutshell, you are saying women should completely stop having sex with men to retain their values?

You post is hella confusing.

Not exactly, but just part of the qualities expected.in the form of self control and respect . To tell you the truth, the reason most men talk of virgin is because of the outrageous body count most woman have and most was exchanged for materialistic lifestyle and fun, it's disrespectful to bring such body to a man. For now virgin, unless a measuring instrument/scale becomes available.

Character and personal/mental development is also important,
So in this sequence, the less mentally development/bad character the lower the value, and character most times equals respect, patience and understanding.
Most woman lack it, the reason they pursue materialistic lifestyle.

cococandy:
Hi.

So, What do you think would need to happen amongst the general population in order for women to stop being “overused”. How do you think we as a society can go about creating a dynamic where women are virgins and/or have low body counts?

You can't even read to where the solution is stated clearly.
To solve it you create an alternative or simply break female Monopoly.
The sequence will be, the more used the lesser the value, though it might vary between different individuals. unlike now females retain most of their value even after several body count. Eg u charge 10k at 2nd body count, 5k at 3rd, 2k 4th, 1k at 5th, 5H at 6th, 250H 7th, 125H at 8th, 50naira at 9th, by 10th free, 11 you begg for it without any demand, as people don't want disease and no value for time and energy to be wasted.

Females will stop trading their body for materials if they desire to settle down,
Many will change some will now service the community for free and i begg.

emmaodet:
The point you raised is so true.
The reason why men are experiencing sexual starvation, regular increase in price or women is because men have no other options.
Options kill monopoly and bring the price down reason why society will kick against it.

Life is not fair, even nature, humans are even lucky some female species kill and eat the male after mating, and move to next male,
Men have, can still do it, we've changed many natural order with science and technology and will soon end female Monopoly .

Men waste useful time needed to drive the society forward in chasing women and trying to gain their affection.

emmaodet:
At bolded……a bitter reality have come to make do with.

About alternative to women…. I think the options you listed are not only expensive but complex for the average man.
The average man life is very very hard and the last thing he wants more is a complicated issue like women and the alternatives.
My best bet is to avoid marriage and use other not so accepted options by the society- babymama (just to use women to have kids but no commitment), cohabitation (not legally married and can pull out at any time) etc. These systems are what is fast replacing marriage in Europe and america.
The average woman in the dating market does not worth the price to pay. The price of life-long providing, security, your resources, properties to become hers due to marriage etc.

To tell you the truth it's better to manage women they way they are than baby mama, but go for polygamy, you have to accept reality,

Sure it won't be available anytime soon.
But artificial uterus/womb is not a complex option. There has been a lot of prototype, if given enough attention, fund and research it can be achieved in less than a decade, the decision needs to be taking first, as major research into such field are rejected by the public or viewed as unethical.

With such technology you just go to hospital to have a baby no connection with any woman, you get a male child and the cycle continue. To get the egg is another topic, you don't need to worry about it scientist know what to do.
Even married people can decide to use the hospital. This is the future it must surely come to pass.

Baby mama is somehow connected to you even if you deny it, and baby mama benefits only you, but pushes the societal morals into an ever deeper/lower potential well.

In negotiations you first get the leverage to secure better deal,
The leverage is now the true second option, introduce it and watch how women will spontaneously become understanding, good, etc.
Finally the end of hypergamy.

emmaodet:
Again

Gbam!!!!!!
I like your reply.
“Total inaccessibility and unavailability “

If we have 1 million each of male and female in marriageable age matchmaked together for marriage, the chances that at least 30% of the ladies would marry men can provide basic needs is higher than men getting an average decent woman with low body counts.
On average, at least 80% of men if not more will go home with more than average damaged women- most would have aborted before if not all, I can bet none would be virgins, over 8 out of 10 would have slept with more than 5 men etc.
As you can see, men would always get the short end of relationship/marriage stick

A sure reality,
At the end most woman will still get a financial stable man, because men don't want to die poor.
But most men will definitely get, overused woman, ie not the kind their inner mind desire.
men can only change it temporary by raising their standard as it has been before, but that's equal to fighting nature and denying reality, like raising a particle into a higher energy level of unstable equilibrium, it will surely fall back to ground state giving enough time and circumstance.
Serious men are looking for alternative to women; Monopoly of any kind is dangerous.
Artificial uterus, AI android ,
Or the nuclear option, transcending and digital immortality, eg mind upload and cloning.

The reality is that 80% of men cannot get a woman that will be attracted to them naturally no matter how they search, because women are highly superficial and with delusional standard for the kind of men that deserves their love.

In summary let who can/wants to buy women, buy it ( fake/simulated love), after all the so call reality is not real, nothing is real in this universe,
Albert Einstein once stated that reality is a stubbornly persistent illusion.
I also agree that reality is not real, due to the fact that entropy grows exponentially in this universe creating the arrow of time, something that can not happen if this universe is real.

The best option would be to go for a female AI android, but the technology is not yet fully developed.

SlavaUkraini:
Then you guys are missing my point..... Which is first developing a savings culture.

No matter how much you earn, if you don't know how to Save money and later Invest your savings, you would end up broke and poor.

@ seanwilliams , I am glad to let you know that I have tried this saving culture trick Over and over again.

In 2014, I bought a piece of land for 1.5 million Naira, then I was saving 7k daily.

Only those that don't know how to save money would disagree with what I am saying.

I still maintain the idea that no matter how small you think your income is, save something out of it..... Probably not to buy land but to go into other business like my man above said.

Nothing is too small to be called your savings. That is why banks don't reject your 5 Naira savings.

When you do that, you are developing a habit that is Profitable in the long-run.

Good advice, but in this situation, not good, infact it's been judgemental towards Aguba's predicaments.

Savings wouldn't have saved him, he's not on a sustainable daily, weekly or monthly income but occasional pay for role.

Your advise should be directed to another situation. Even savings can be lost to medical or other financial emergencies.

lekonso:
How does one identify original cable

Most electronic components pass through standardized testing and regulations, checking the package quality and size might help but not guaranteed,
Because high quality chargers always comes with quality packaging and usually bigger in size, but not necessarily the biggest.
The only way to know is by opening, and checking the circuit board, for missing and poor components, but only if you can identify one.

In summary what people call fake chargers are actually low quality charger.
While high quality chargers are regarded as original.
By high quality, is comes with the ability to output greater current, without over heating, withstanding source voltage fluctuations, greater protection against AC current leakage into the output, and you have to pay extra money.

Most chargers malfunction due to over heating, which can cause internal mechanical failure along the "lead soldering joints". while some output low current due to low quality cable it comes with, and by external mechanical failure along the edges of the charging cable, the reason for periodic replacement of usb charging cable.

Most chargers in the market are original, but with "low quality cable".

Always replace the cable, with high quality cable.