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^ [quote]« #85 on: Today at 01:38:32 AM »

^Such delusion. On behalf of your family I am Embarrassed for your sake.[/Quote]please dont worship me, you idolator, by your 'for your sake'. What has my family got to do with it? Am i lying especially in the light of what i know about christians and their warped emotion? Even at my age, you have no respect for me on the internet, imagine what you will be intending to do if I am your patient?



[Quote]No matter how you try you can never drag [b]the pure gospel of Christ [/b]down to the level of the putrid Islamic garbage that you lot spew out daily.[/Quote]aletheia got #2 in his mouth, again. If I see pure Gospel of Jesus I will revere it. Definitely it will be smaller than the "red letter" Gospel. Nothing of silly stories, acts of apostles and definitely the letters of Paul will be in it.



[Quote] BTW I hope you know your false prophet drank alcohol while denying all you followers of his the same here, only to turn around to promise you rivers of the alcohol in the hereafter. Such a vision could only have arisen out of an alcohol-fueled haze of inebriation.[/Quote]I am going to read the garbage this garbage is quoting so that i can use it to whip him like a kileb [great dane], while i will await my own drinks InchaAllah in paradise. you will



[Quote]Narrated by Gaber bin Abdullah:
We were with the messenger of Allah, PBUH and he asked for a drink. One of his men said: "Oh Messenger of Allah, Can we offer you wine to drink?" He said Yes. He (Gaber) went out looking for the drink and came back with a cup of wine. The messenger (Peace Be Upon him) asked, “Have you covered it with a twig in a transverse manner” He (Gaber) said, “Yes” and he (Muhammad) drank.
Sahih Muslim - Hadith #3753[/Quote]And then, alcohol was forbidden. Assuming this was true. read below the reality, considering that by Muhammad's example, I stay away from Sayo [lol], a thing you can't get enough of;

Translation: "It is called nabeezen because whoever takes it, he takes dates or raisin and yanbuzu (the act ) in a pot or something like that (sekaa) and adds water to them and leaves them till they ferment يفور and they become intoxicant."

From the above definition we can understand that nabeez can be intoxicant and causes intoxication. In the same dictionary (Lesan Al-Arab) لسان العرب we read that: Translation: “Entabaztuhu (the past tense from entabaza) …… taken as nabeezen whether it is intoxicant or not, it is called nabeezen and alkhamr (strong drink) squeezed from vine is called nabeez and the nabeez is called khamr (strong drink)”

From the above definition we understand that nabeez can be intoxicant and both words khamr and nabeez can replace one another and are thus synonyms. Now let us see what the dictionary say about the word khamr (strong drink). Translation: Alkhamr (the strong drink) what has become intoxicant from the juice of vine because it has affected the mind.

On the same page, Abu Haneefa أبو حنيفة said Al-Khamr could be from grains …. Ibn Sayadahu ابن سيده said that he allowed that as in fact al khamr is made only from wine and not from any other thing.

@Op; what if the world exist after the date you posted?

will you quit being a christian?

there is Islam you know. we don't have gloom and doom that you are preaching.

the world for humans and all will end when God Wills it.

I am just wondering aloud how ironic the below was on Jesus of the Bible,
considering his own opinion of himself and what happened to hi at the end?

[Quote]"No weapon that is formed against you will prospe[/b]r; And every tongue that accuses you in judgment you will condemn. [b]This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their vindication is from Me," declares the LORD." - Isaiah 54:17[/Quote]God spoke well and the Bible indicted itself when a small community of Jews was able to kill the god of the christian or the son of the god of the christian, if it is true that Jesus died on the cross.



[Quote]"As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the curse causeless shall not come." - Proverbs 26:2[/Quote]The causeless here is synonymous to powerless because causeless cant cause anything to happen. So goes the condition of Jesus, the christian god; he was powerless he said.

Alhamdulillah. I am far away from the long hands of the Christians.

If the christian mob get hold of me, if they dont string me on their own cross, they will slash me so many times, you will think i was meant for suya.

if I say this [criticize christianity] at st James cathedral or the palace of the king of spain, or desmond put on 57th between 8th and 9th avenues, or rockefeller center or st patrick cathedral or st Peter's square, sweetnectra will be a goner in the next minute.

@My Vicky; « #78 on: Yesterday at 07:35:53 PM »
[Quote]I think Frosbel has summarised the situation here!
The simple analogy is that[b] every man is triune[/b]; meaning we all have body, soul and spirit coexisting as one. even though I have a body, a soul and a spirit, that doesn't make me three persons![/Quote]I see that you have dragged your God to the level of human beings. SO I will start with the first man, Adam. Sisi, show me Adam's body, soul and spirit from the pages of your Bibles, using the story of his creation. Illustrate, which is his body and how that body came about. Then his soul and his spirit, when each enters his body. Don't be shy or stingy in quoting the verses, because today may be the day you convert me, when you show me the soul going into Adam's body. And then when you show me the spirit going into Adam's body. I am a sucker for information from women because of their passion in providing accurate data.



[Quote]If The Comforter, Spirit of Truth, Holy Spirit &Holy Ghost are not names enough, then I don't think I can provide any further help. I thought it was an objective question. Never knew the mind is made up already.[/Quote]Here is the problem; these are titles and or descriptions, but not names. Lets take your human god for example of his name. He is Jesus. His descriptions; Son of Mary.Son of Man. Son of David. You say he is son of god. You say he is god. He is Messiah to the children of Israel. he was a prophet to the children of Israel. See how many titles and descriptions, but one name? Give me that one name of the described and titled Another Comforter, Spirit of Truth, Holy spirit and Holy Ghost.

Let me give you further example, using God, a Title, other titles and descriptions; You say He is your father. I say He is the Creator. You say He said to Moses that He is I AM. Moses called Him Yahweh. Jesus called Him Ellah. Saul, Paul called Him Jehovah. But His Name is What? Definitely not Father, I AM, but maybe Yahweh from the lips of Prophet Moses [prophet is a title, but Moses is a name], Ellah to hanging Jesus on the cross [according to you].

Now, woman, give me the name of the ghost and make it fit the quality of his work on the disciples; correcting them, etc. Stop play and title is not a name.

May the good LORD have mercy on you.

@Mazaje; i have to ignore you because you take the lid of all that is bad. responding to you is to honor you. from now on i will not respond to you.

This is a very interesting video. The segment between 1.30 mins to say 3.00 mins of just 4 mins long video intrigue me. This is because the jew[s] agree that their Bible is corrupted and God punished them by making things hard for them. Yet when it comes to talking about the prophet [as] someone got upset because he was not from the children of Israel, as if God does not have the Right to choose His elect, when the people continued to go against His Instruction.

The only reason the jews received favor from God is because of His relationship with Abraham [as]. Are the jews not just one of many branches that came from Abraham, Ismail [as] being the first major branch and Rasulullah [as] is from that first branch?

Allah has maintained His Covenant with Abraham all through, ending it with the major branch that was there to participate in the ratification of it by being circumcised.

God did not promise to prevent people from corrupting the earlier scriptures, but guarantees the purity of Quran and shall not allow it to be corrupted.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gP_3ItIdrI&feature=relmfu

And Paul was a eunuch. Since he was not really a man, he legislated about man woman relationship. Freak of nature he was. Today, he will performing in a circus as the man who can't get it on.

So his people followed him, instead of following, Abraham, Jacob with with multiple wives, while they say the God they worship is the God of both men and Isaac.

What was Adam doing with a wife in the Garden? How did sex become a second nature for him and Eve on earth outside the garden?

Before some clowns answer without thinking, I need to remind them that Adam and Eve were made husbands before they were warned about the tree. So no one can say that they discovered sex only after they had their episode with the tree. They have been having sex in the garden, except it was a place for them to have children, the only reason Eve was not pregnant there, but became pregnant on earth.

Those who discovered Viagra etc for erectile dysfunction are christians and they cant get enough of the stuffs. I guess this earth is their paradise.

this is a good Jihadist video.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGcAzX9E3qU&NR=1

these people are clowns. you guys should wear wigs, and makeup and funny shoes and colorful oversize clothes.


you will quote paul liberally and whenever you quote your human god Mr. jesus, it is only a footnote to mr. saul who assaulted your mind.

i love this young jew in the video;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATrDPGypJHw&NR=1

@Micuilles; Luke 1 verse 17 is another proof that The Gospels are not 100% from Jesus.

When John said he was not Elijah, that shows how confusing the Book is, because Jesus said John was Elijah.



One wonders who is correct. Jesus never forgot to remind us that John who opposed him was the greatest prophet from the Children of Israel.

Earlier though in the Old Testament, it stated after Moses no such a great prophet was raise from the children of Israel.

funny people.

he spoke about the knowledge of Jesus. but he quoted some other books apart from Gospel, where you will able to find something Jesus said.

is Jesus the author of Ephesians?

gimmicks. and more gimmicks.

Paul is so much important to Christians than Jesus ever was.

All these men are fakes.

Each one of them say something in the public, whereas in private and held dearly in the heart is virgin wife he prefers.

only a man who doesn't know how tasty food is will go to the garbage and pick up what has been thrown in there after someone already spitted and
coughed out phlegm, even others, etc, instead of new food, just of the grill.

thats how i want my steak, flame broil. new.

[Quote]« #61 on: Today at 08:15:26 PM »
Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 08:05:50 PM
So people like you don't want virgin for a wife?

how about your sister being a virgin for her husband?

LMAO! You misunderstand my point. I never said what you are inferring here.[/Quote]I dont read mind[s]. i read what is written. I am sure my statement here will be useful below.



[Quote]Quote from: Sweetnecta on Today at 08:05:50 PM
when did sex become hard work?
My sarcasm is lost on you dude. It might not be so much of a paradise for the 73 of them if Sweetnecta has to disvirgin his 72 wives every single time, I guess.[/Quote]since i dont read mind, i couldnt tell it was dubious opinion turned sarcasm. none of us in the group of 73 will complain. it will like your favorite meal that you just started to eat. that type of feeling is the minimum. it is reward from Allah.



[Quote]
is sex not the greatest enjoyment on the planet?
Really, is it? You go ahead and tell us cos unfortunately I know nothing about this. Besides, you said on the planet. Is your paradise mundane?[/Quote]when you grow up, you will experience it. wait your turn, your time with the right spouse. i just hope you can handle it. you are on earth and it it is the greatest food feeling on earth. there is nothing mundane in my Paradise because I am not in it, yet. When I am in it, InchaAllah, i am certain the happiness will not be disturbed.

So people like you don't want virgin for a wife?

how about your sister being a virgin for her husband?

when did sex become hard work?

is sex not the greatest enjoyment on the planet?

A wealthy person caps the wealth with good sex with fantastic spouse. the whole of man.s hard work is to have that for lack of better word 'trophy wife'.

disbelievers with their misplaced priorities.

the best form of sex is when you are having the experience for the first time because after it, you know how its gonna end up

if i have that first time feeling every time, thank God.


But christians dont have paradise. they only have heaven. But there are 7 heavens, and there is lowest among them.

Nourishment? Yes.

Bad food is nourishment, too. You get sick after it.

You have a point; nourishment is nourishment including last meal of those who are about to die.

Adam [as] and Eve didn't just have Abel and Cain. They had many children that from them we had in a single birth boy and girl who have to marry boy or girl from another birth.

a generation in those days was 1000s of years.


Adam and Eve who were created matured, ready for each other as husband and wife as God Willed it for them, their many children married from teir own siblings, but different pregnancies.

You can see that the grandchildren of Adam married from themselves
then so were the great grandchildren. and so on, until even now there are cultures that marriages between cousins are not uncommon.

And by the way, Sarah was Abraham's sister.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ seyi, i say i seek protection of God against the accursed satan. this i say many times a day.

what do you say about satan?

you a woman doesnt do eye liners to give the illusion that your eyes are wider.

and have you heard what they call push up bras?

many women go about doing implants, in the front and in the back.

the africans say figure 8, or coca cola bottle or drum.

you think the woman who is naturally this figure is now a sin? Betty boo is a sin.


finally, Adam had a wife in the best garden. whats the benefit of wife and husband to each other, if sex is not part of it? and seyi is a married woman and sex is sinful. maa toon ara e. tori wipe oo toon mi rara.

about angels; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam - Cached

The angel also told Mary that she will give birth to a holy son, named Jesus, who will be a great , narrate that Jesus met with Yahya ibn Zakariyya

Mary had withdrawn into the temple of prayer, where she was visited by the angel Gabriel (Arabic: Jibrail) to give the glad tidings of a holy son.[9] The Qur'an states that God sent the message through the angel Gabriel to Mary that God had honoured Mary among the women of all nations.

@Seyibrown; « #75 on: Today at 01:03:04 AM »
[Quote]If ALLAH/QURAN tells you that the Holy Spirit's name is Angel Jibril, why do you keep disturbing our peace? Huh Huh Why are you not satisfied with Allah's/Quran's answer? Why do you want an answer from Xtians when your mind is already set against believeing their answer or the source of their answer? Huh Huh[/Quote]You need to just settle down for a minute and listen to reason, instead of being jumpy all over the place and carrying on with huge emotion.

when people are emotional they miss crucial details, often.

why do i need to know the name of the holy spirit of the christians? i need to know your truth and check it with my truth. i clearly tell you the name of the holy spirit as Jibril, since he is an angel, from among angels.

ypu on the other hand waffle and dance around as if that will solve the problem. give me the name my friend or for ever hold your peace. with all the details in the bibles, you guys dont even realize that the name of holy spirit is not know by you. how many more complex things that you do not know, in addition?

@Seyibrown; « #73 on: Yesterday at 11:46:49 PM »
[Quote]@ Sweetnecta,

I told you last year that:

since the spirit (or ghost) of Sweetnecta = Sweetnecta, then the Spirit of God (Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit) = God.[/Quote]I have a soul, in my body. When i die the soul is removed from the body, being unseen, it is therefore a spirit. Is God of the christianity no more a Trinity? if you can name son as Jesus, father as Yahweh, why are you afraid to give me the name of the Ghost? You don't know it or there is no Ghost as a God is what you are really telling us here.



[Quote]you still seem not to understand that logic,[/Quote]here you are applying logic, yet you were certain about Jesus and Yahweh. this is inconsistency. you cant use two rules on a single subject.



[Quote] why don't you ask Allah? Surely, he must be able to give you an answer to this question that burns you so much![/Quote]It is clear to me that you have no answer. In the Quran the Holy Spirit was sent to Mary to announce the birth of Prophet Isa, her son [as]. Mary saw this man standing in front of her told him to fear Allah if he has the intention of doing evil. The man who appeared suddenly said to her in order to calm her down and assured her of no evil coming from him, that he is a Messenger of God, to her to announce the birth of a child. this man is an Angel named Gabriel and he is known by other titles. One of them is Ruhu Qudus, the holy spirit, since all heavenly beings are spirits not seen by anyone as i can see you and your husband if if i arrive in England. Jesus is Massiah to the children of Israel. Gabriel is Holy Spirit.



[Quote] I ask God questions, and his spirit gives me answers![/Quote]There is no place in your Bibles that Jesus said God's Spirit will answer your questions, otherwise Jesus presence was redundant. What Jesus said was that after he leaves, the holy spirit, which is another comforter will hear from God and will speak to the disciples about it. The Holy Spirit will correct the disciples. The Holy Spirit will teach the disciples things Jesus did not teach them because they were spiritually immature when Jesus was there. The Holy Spirit will lead the disciples to all truth. The Holy Spirit will glorify Jesus. The Holy Spirit will remind them of what Jesus said. When you look at all of these, there is no place that says the holy Spirit will get to you or anyone except the disciples. It would have been beneficial if the disciples wrote what the holy spirit said in the matters of corrections, teaching new things, leading to all truth, glorifying Jesus, etc.

Further, please give me a thing that the holy spirit has taught you, if you wanna personalize it that much, in respect to leading you to all truth, teaching you new things, glorifying Jesus, correcting you, etc. Please give example for each, both your old life and what the holy spirit impacted in the described functions, unless you may argue that Jesus was wrong to limit the full range of the holy spirit?



[Quote] Ask Allah for once; let him talk to you! God talks to his children,[/Quote]My father was a Nigerian. He died after independence. My God is my Creator and He is Allah. He is not my father, and His Book is with me; Quran. It is from the Quran that I have shook you with these many questions, showing you deficiencies of the Bible. It is from the Quran I answered swiftly.



[QUote] and even his slaves and servants! Come back and give us the name of the spirit of God that Allah gives you in answer![/Quote]Holy Spirit is a slave of Allah. The Holy Spirit is Malaika Jibril [as].

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i am yet to know the Jesus that is different from the pages of the Bible.
The one on the pages of the bible, if one looks at his good quality, one finds a prophet of God.

if one pays attention to his bad manners, one sees a despicable person, being shrouded falsely as higher authority.

finally, no one has told me the name of the holy spirit that christians say makes all things clear, while i still hear them say that spiritual things are mystery.

@micuilles; « #7 on: Today at 12:01:36 PM »
[Quote]@ Sweetnecta,

Can you please quote the part of the Bible where Jesus said John was Elijah re-incarnate?[/Quote]Whats the purpose, whereas Jesus and John were at opposite end of John as Elijah? This should be your concern; the man who baptized Jesus and the greatest prophet of the children of Israel said Jesus whereas the Bible had declared no prophet like Moses was ever going to be raise in Israel disagreed with Jesus that he is not Elijah. These are big problems that you must sort out before you asked me quote your Bible.


[QuoteAlso read Lk1:17 where the angel of God said the child John shall go in the spirit & power of Elijah.[quote][/Quote]John said he was not Elijah. thats simple enough.


[Quote]Secondly, Jesus said in John 16;7, it is expedient that go away so that the comforter will come. This is the Holy spirit. ou see, if Jesus did not go, the ministry to the Gentiles would not have been possible. Through the Holy spirit, the whole world can carry God inside individually by believing in the death & resurrection of Jesus. As a man on earth, Jesus would have only been in Israel, but as the Holy spirit, Jesus can be real even to the Gentile.[/Quote]You have suggested that Jesus is the holy spirit, yet you had said that the Angel who talked to Hajar about Ishmael was the holy spirit presence. Why one is true? And lets examine what Jesus said about the holy spirit; Jesus never said that he will leave and then return as the holy spirit. He said I will pray the father to send him. Another place, he said I will send him. Either way, the holy spirit has definite functions to perform; one of them is praising Jesus. How did Jesus as holy spirit praise or gloried himself? How did Jesus as holy Spirit now teach the disciples new things, how did he remind them of what he just told them weeks before, how did he correct them [correct them from what], how did he show them things to come? please explain each function and provide example in each case. i beg to differ that Jesus wanted his ministry to be universal, otherwise he would have started it so, before being lifted up after all he escaped to Egypt and said nothing there.


[Quote]Col 1:26-27 This is the mystery which hath been hid from ages & generations but now made manifest to his saints; to whom God will make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.[/Quote]This is not clear and cant answer the question because it is coming from a man who was not an eyewitness. Why still mysteries consider the holy spirit was a te one of the 3 that mounted Mary, why is he now Jesus when it was the one father sent Jesus to strengthen him, earlier? There is not way that the holy spirit mounted Mary to produce Jesus, strengthened Jesus when Jesus was in difficulty all of a sudden becomes Jesus. It does not make sense.


[Quote]the Holy spirit, salvation has come to the gentiles by the death & resurrection of Jesus. Read Rom 11;1-24[/Quote]this is what Paul made up. It is a shame that you cant explain it, but accepted it blindly and you want me to do the same. I will not be blind.


[Quote]Finally, the Bible did not say, art thou the prophet? The pharisees said art thou that prophet?[/Quote]Please tell me that you pen this wanting to know if i am paying attention? where did you and I get this statement from except from the Bible? if it from the bibles, i guess i can simply say the Bibles say it.

[Quote]have hope for you because I've met several muslims who believed & are now preaching Jesus. Try it, you'll discover that the clog/vail covering your eyes will be taking away.[/Quote]I'm no fool. I test everything and if its not of sound quality, i throw it away.


[Quote] 1Cor 3:7-. A man has to be born twice, first by his parents & then by God's spirit.[/Quote]Jesus was born, one time. every one who was before this concept of 2 births was born one time. The author of 1 Cor3;7 is making things up and i can't make up.

@Seyibrown: « #47 on: Today at 02:24:15 AM »
[Quote]Quote from: emofine on August 24, 2011, 11:49 PM
so if wife's follow their husbands to paradise will the men still be granted these hourin or will she thus pose as a hourin herself?

ROTFLMAO! Grin Grin Grin[/Quote]Take it easy o. I remembered a question that was asked about a woman who ends up with more than one earthly husbands in paradise, should do? my answer and Allah knows best, is that the marriage on the earth is determined by the wife. so the husband she will end up with depends on who she chooses in Paradise. the earthly wife will be better than hourins in paradise. the creation is anew, and quality and desire in paradise are not like what happen on earth.



[Quote]I think if LagosShia et al take their 4 wives to Al-jannat, the wives cannot pose or pass as 'wide-eyed houris'. The eyes aren't very wide in our part of Nigeria! Grin Grin Grin . . . and LagosShia et al will be too busy servicing the 72 Houris everyday (20 mins per Houri) so much that it'll never be the old wives' turn! They will just have to be content with the lack of bedroom service and allow the Houris to enjoy, afterall they enjoyed endured the husbands on earth ! Grin Grin Best option will be for these wives to refuse to go to Al-Janat! Grin Grin[/Quote]if you are wrong about what makes a day in paradise, thinking that you are still on earth time system, is there a reason to believe that you are not wrong in more complex issues about Paradise. Imagine if a child in the mother's womb is told that he will suckle and enjoy it when he is alive. then the same child told as a 6 year old that he will be eager to suckle again when he is married, he will say no. but let him marry and see how much he has to be cajoled to rush for the foods, the bad puppies.



[Quote]Obedience to God may not be easy, but it sure pays joyous dividends![/Quote]Obedience to God you say? How are you obedience to him, when Jesus prostrated and you decided to play roll around like lassie, the smart dog? Please seyibrown, tell what i dont know.



@My Vicky; « #48 on: Today at 06:15:38 AM »
[Quote]Grow up, desist from wrongheaded quoting of God's word. As humans, we can always find faults/criticism even when they ain't there. I think it's better to be quiet than uttering things we ain't sure of. We shall all give account of every idle words spoken. I just pray it will not be too late for you to discover the TRUTH. Does mere taking of the fruit of the vine make you a drunkard? How do we compare unleavened bread and fruit of the vine with gross indulgence and excessive transcendental crave for immorality in paradise as raised above I know you'll pick flaws in my comments because whenever a way 'seems' right to a man, he shuts his senses but to that way only, even if it leads to the den of the devil. There are answers to all the questions or confusions anyone might have about the Bible but the question is[b], will a subjective mind ever accept the answers? [/b]The responses and dispositions of the pharisees, scribes &saduccees to Christ provide an answer to the last question. Dear Lord, please have mercy on these ones, open their eyes as you have done in time past and let their body, soul & spirit not separate before they realise the truth. Now your turn, as usual, to haul back imprecations, [/Quote]How do you determine what is moral in Paradise that you have not seen or shown what is not permissible in it? Calling reward gross indulgence and excessive transcendental crave of immorality, in paradise is wrong. If there is not reward in Paradise whats the difference between it and hell fire? If you think Paradise is only spiritual and not physical, then hell in your mind must be spiritual and not physical, hence no reward?
And please if you have answers to the questions, at least provide them and dont worry about those who do not accept your effort. Please while you are at it, tell me the name of the holy spirit, because son of god is Jesus, and father is Yahweh. tell me something that the holy spirit did to improve you over what Jesus left. how did the holy spirit tells you to pray to him, and then to Jesus and then to Yahweh?

@micuilles; « #216 on: Today at 02:26:18 PM »
[Quote]@ necta,

Exactly, you just hit the nail on the head. This is exactly what the religious pharisee Nichodemus asked our Lord Jesus. Can a man go back into his mother's womb & be born again?[/Quote]i didn't ask the same question. all i said was i don't have to have sex with a woman, getting her pregnant before the child is begotten to me, i will be right if i say a 45 year old man is my begotten son. i know it is a lie, but are free to accept it as absolute truth.



[Quote]Jesus said he that is born of the spirit is spirit. Now, being born again is being born by the Spirit of God. Normally, this will be hard for you to understand because you're a muslim. That's why people refer to you as carnal. The first thing you should do is Believe that Jesus (the word of God) was made flesh & dwelt amongst men.[/Quote]the bold is blind faith, which is foreign to me. and all your being spiritually born, you have failed to articulate to me the personal name of the holy spirit, though you seem to be saying that he is an angel, and what he had taught which Jesus did not teach you. how are you born by the spirit, if not the way Jesus was born out of Mary, then the holy spirit has made it easy for dad to actually be your father. unless Jesus was reborn, again, then your condition is better than that of Jesus. how is it that you are born by the spirit, sparing mom while Mary had to get the whole full monty?



[Quote] He died & resurrected on the third day.[/Quote]please calculate 3 days and 3 nights for me from Friday almost sunset to Sunday before dawn? you are oversimplifying it when you said third day, because the truth is in the details; 3 days and 3 night is what it supposed to be and not just the third day. Paul is moving the post ever so slightly.



[Quote] Your believing & confessing him as your Lord can only be done if you hae the holy spirit in you.[/Quote]confessing to confusion is not my cup of tea.and i dont believe what you believe it cant even explain with all the holy spirit in you, leading you.



[Quote] That's why the christian is different.[/Quote]So far you have tried. You have came close to defining the holy spirit by saying that he spoke to hajar. You you have not named the angel. i need a name please. You then made a 180 degree turn about asking me to close my eyes and believe what does not make sense. that is very unfair.

I have hope for you because I've met several muslims who believed & are now preaching Jesus. Try it, you'll discover that the clog/vail covering your eyes will be taking away. 1Cor 3:7-. A man has to be born twice, first by his parents & then by God's spirit.

Seyibrown is a joke[r]. if you didn't read the bible, how would you have known about the christian's holy spirit, which unfortunately remain nameless?

seyi, there is too much mystery, yet the holy spirit was to make things clear. why the mystery and things are not cleared up in over 2000 years? what happened, sisi?

i want you to watch this video and give me your opinion. it is a jamaican program;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjfQ9AwFlLk&feature=related

^^^^^^^^^^^^ My children were begotten to me as i am who begot them when i performing the act of begetting by sleeping with their mother.

is there another way to have a true child?

is there another way to beget a child?

if there is someone may still be able to beget me, still.

i may just be able to just beget a 45 year old child for me today, still.

@Micuilles; « #68 on: Today at 09:57:28 AM »
[Quote]@ Jo, what do you think?

@ sweetnecta; Enigma & all

Let me help out, you just[b] remove every hate from your heart & be open minded as you read this[/b]. In John 8:58, Jesus said unto them, verily verily I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. if you notice, the pharisees did not say Jesus was claiming to pre-exist Abraham per-se, but they said to Jesus "how can you call yourself God" and they attempted to throw stones at him. This is because, Jesus was saying he is the I AM that appeared to moses as Jehovah.[/Quote]i opened my mind up and threw away the hate[s]. then that helped me to realize at long last that no one ever called Jesus I AM, and Jesus didn't call himself that, even just one time. Even Jesus was not called Immanuel, even as a joke o a casual reminder by anyone, including him. Jesus never said he was Yahweh or Jehovah even. When Jesus final mentioned the Name of God, he said not Yahweh, or Jehovah or I AM, but Ellah or if you want Eloi. I wonder how you read into what Jesus said with what Jesus didnt say? Before Abraham, there were many people; the father of Abraham, the Uncle[s] of Abraham, the elders of Ur, then we have Melchizedek, Noah and his people, Enoch and his people, all the children of Adam, all the daughters of men who the sons of God got pregnant, Eve and then Adam to name those people you cant dispute. Even my soul as a spirit existed before Abraham came on earth and definitely before Jesus was born. and ironically, i am alive today and my body houses that spiritual entity which is my soul.



[Quote]In Matt 28:19, , Baptizing them in the NAME of the father, son, & Holy ghost. With this, you discover that it's one name & not three different names. [/Quote]If this is true, then father was not just Yahweh, but was messiah and holy spirit, too. The son was not just Jesus, but was father and holy spirit, too. The holy spirit was not just Nameless, but was messiah and father, too. So when the holy spirit was getting Mary pregnant, father was there the reason you call Him father. Son was there too but you do not call him father for getting his mother pregnant, but you call him son, instead. Why is this the case? the holy spirit did the pregnant-ing, but you never called him the father. Why is that the case? Then when son was hung, all of them were hung is what you are saying. Who is not the dying God then? when Jesus was visible to us, then father and holy spirit were visible. Why is father not seen at anytime? Why is the holy spirit not physical when he appeared?



[Quote]Acts 2;38 Peter admonished that they should be baptized in the NAME of Jesus & recieve the HOLY ghost. In Phil. 2;9-10, God approved that at the mention of the name Jesus, every knee should bow, in heaven, earth & under the earth.[/Quote]Jesus never said this in the 3 years he was around this people. I will ask you why he didn't, and was Peter and or the author of Phil. 2; 9 and 10 the another comforter who led to all things? Or the above was just a total make up to continue in the steps of the mysterious, instead of making things plain? I know I am a canal man. what about you, because certainly, the above does not make sense, if you are not blinded by your faith?



[Quote] Remember, jesus always said I & my father are one.[/Quote]this statement destroys trinity if you accept it. either was you lose.



[Quote]As christians, we believe God as Holy trinity, the Father, Son & Holy Ghost. But you see, the Holy Ghost responds to the name of Jesus. Matt 1:24, 2;13, Isa 63:9, Gen 16:11 you'll see that the Holy Spirit is the angel of God's pressence i.e. if he responds to the name of Jesus, then trully, Jesus is also God's name. That's why we should baptize & pray in the name of Jesus. I hope this is clear enough? Wink Wink Wink[/Quote]Angel of God's presence. that pricks my mind to ask you what does that mean? which angel of God comes when the holy spirit comes? what do you mean if he responds to the name of Jesus? who is the he here? whats the name of the holy spirit, even if it is an angel? i want to know, otherwise he does not exist.



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@ All,

What am saying in essence is that, after Jesus humled himself to the cross, by obedient[/Quote]nased on what you have said above, i am making your statement clearer to you and all of mankind that you are saying that in one single event, Jesus, Yahweh and nameless holy spirit were humbled on the cross by being obedient. Obedient to who wxactly? Please explain and name names.



[Quote], after being raised from the dead [/Quote]to mean all the 3 were raised from dead. who raised them all from dead, for certain Jesus didn't raise himself, so was Yahweh and same thing for the nameless holy ghost about himself respectively. Whoever raised them up is Most Powerful and deserves to be the God. further, after death and being raised up, why was Jesus not walking the street openly, instead hiding from the killers? why? was he concerned that that they will do it over all again?



[Quote]Col 2:9 reads " For in him (Jesus) dwelleth the fulness of the Godhead bodily" i.e. Jesus is the totality of God. Don't you just Love Him? Wink[/Quote]Col. 2;9 did not give a clear reason he made such a conclusion. it is therefore baseless and fraudulent. if his reasons were what you penned above it, then answer the many questions i raised from what you wrote. you asked me to be open minded. i have. you didn't say i should be ignorant. i would have said no. i need truth from you and not what you said above.to me you are a bold man. at least you are saying without saying it directly with Gen 16 verse 11 that Hajar received news from holy spirit, who is the Angel of God. whats the name of that Angel, please?

I often ask myself and others what the christian's holy spirit brought that Jesus didn't leave behind in the first place? no single thing has been presented.

people who say that the holy spirit made things clear, are the same people who will say things are mysteries to people like me because i am canal or disbeliever.

fine, i want the same people who are not canal and not disbelievers tell me what is the proper name of the holy spirit who came to make things clear for them, while it remains a mystery for me.

then they should throw in as free gift how did the holy spirit tell them to pray to him, or jesus his partner or Yahweh. are prayers to each 'Person' [i hate to use that word for Yahweh and holy spirit] different for the same? give me a example of formal prayer if it is te same. if not give me formal prayer to each one.

this will lead me to follow up questions, as i need proof if i were to worship the One True God Who sent Jesus. i cant be just accepting things by faith, when it is so confusing shrouded in mystery. religion should be made plain.

@my vicky; you do not take the same position as you are taking now with holy spirit, when it comes to Yahweh or Jesus. You quickly give us their names. Please give us the same as to the name of the holy spirit. holy spirit is just a title.

ironically, i was watching jamaican hardtalk program where muslim revert was saying it is the bible that led him to islam, because the holy spirit was supposed to make everything clear, yet the christians are quick to say 'things of spirituality are mystery to canal mind'.

fine. i have canal mind. what about you who does not, or your pastor who doesnt? get from him the proper name of the holy spirit, otherwise, the holy spirit does not exist as you claim.

the holy spirit failed in his definition if you can't give me his proper name. you need to call him on it or totally reject him. when you reject him for his failure, you must reject christianity just as fast. please watch the below;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjfQ9AwFlLk&feature=related