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saydfact:
You're right.... There's no way suspended ceiling can come before plastering.

Also

Even the normal asbestos or pvc ceiling should come AFTER Plastering not before.

But because of poor workmanship, people do it before and use plaster to cover it... I DON'T.

Cc: Muyi002

Thanks


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How to Install a Drop Ceiling
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Updated: August 1, 2019 | References
Drop ceilings, also known as a suspended ceiling, offer many advantages over drywall. Drop ceilings are cost-effective, easy to install on your own, and allow you to access ductwork and wires easily after it’s been installed. In order to put in a drop ceiling, you need to first install a grid system of runners to support your ceiling tiles. When the grid is secure, set the tiles in place to create your new ceiling!


Part 1 of 3:
Placing Your Wall Angles

1
Measure the length of each wall in your room. Use a tape measure to find the length of each wall in the room where you’re installing your ceiling. Write the dimensions of your room either in a notebook or directly on the wall 2–3 in (5.1–7.6 cm) from the top so you can easily reference them later.[1]
If your room is square or rectangular, you only need to measure the length and width.

2
Make a line between 4–6 in (10–15 cm) down from the tops of your walls. Leave at least 4–6 in (10–15 cm) of space from the top of your wall to your line so you have room for fixtures and to put in your tiles. Use a 4 ft (1.2 m) level and draw a straight line with your pencil completely around your room.[2]
Snap a chalk line if you don’t want to draw the lines on yourself. Hold the string of the chalk line against your wall and snap it so the line transfers onto the drywall.
If you plan on installing a large fluorescent light panel, make your line 6 in (15 cm) down.


3
Use a pair of tin snips to cut wall angles to the lengths of your walls. Wall angles are long L-shaped pieces used around the walls of your room to support the tiles and runners. Since wall angles are usually sold in 8–12 ft (2.4–3.7 m) lengths, trim them down with your tin snips to match the lengths of your walls.[3]
If you have a corner that juts out from your wall, cut the wall angles going on those walls 1⁄2 in (1.3 cm) longer than your measurements.
If you want a mitered finish in the corners, cut the wall runner bottom-most wall angle at a 45-degree angle.
If your walls are longer than the wall angles, butt 2 of them together by lining up the ends.

4
Screw the wall angles into the studs along the line you drew. Use a stud finder to locate the studs in your walls and mark their locations with a pencil. Line up the top of the wall angle with the line you’ve drawn on the wall. Use 1 1⁄4 in (3.2 cm) screws and electric screwdriver where you marked the studs to secure your wall angles in place.[4]
Double check that your wall angles are level as you install them.
Tip: If a wall angle bows out, don’t try to tighten it flat against the wall since it may warp the metal. Instead, keep the wall angle straight by placing a wooden shim between it and the wall. When your ceiling is completely finished, fill the gap in with caulk.

Part 2 of 3:
Putting in the Grid System

1
Cut the main runners to fit the length of your room perpendicular to the joists. The main runners will support the bulk of the weight of your ceiling. Measure the length of your room that runs perpendicular to the wooden joists of your ceiling. Cut the runners with a pair of tin snips to the correct length.[5]
If your room is longer than the length of a main runner, use the clips on the ends of the piece to attach them together.

2
Use a chalk line or tie strings across your room every 4 ft (1.2 m). Secure the end of a chalk line on one end of your room and pull it tight to the other side. Snap the chalk line to leave a line on the joists. Move over 4 ft (1.2 m) and make another line on your ceiling. Keep moving across your room until you reach the other edge.[6]
You may also tie strings tight across your ceiling if you don’t have a chalk line.

3
Screw an eyelet into every third joist along your line. Eyelet screws have holes on the end so you can run wires through them to hang your main runner. Attach a lag bit onto your electric screwdriver, and set an eyelet inside the bit. Start placing your eyelets 3 joists away from the wall along each of your chalk or string lines. Keep adding an eyelet at every third joist.[7]Eye lit screws can be purchased from your local hardware store.
Feed a length of wire through each of the eyelets. Cut a 8–10 in (20–25 cm) piece of 16-gauge wire for each of your eyelets. Feed about 2 in (5.1 cm) of the wire through the eyelet, and bend it with a pair of pliers until it points down.[8]



5

Hang up the main runners by the wires. Hold one of your main runners up so the ends rest on your wall angles and so it’s perpendicular to your joists. Feed the other end of the wire through one of the circular slots on the runner, and bend it up with your pliers. Twist the wires around themselves at least 3 times to keep them secure.[9]Make sure your joists are level as you keep adding wires. Adjust where the bend is in the wires if one side is higher than the other.
Install the secondary runners perpendicular to your mains by clipping them in place. Locate the slots on the main runners every 2 ft (0.61 m). Lift your 4 ft (1.2 m) runners above the main runners and feed them into the slots on the mains. Put a secondary runner every 2 ft (0.61 m) along your main runners.[10]

Tip: If you want a 2 ft × 2 ft (0.61 m × 0.61 m) tile system, click 2 ft (0.61 m) secondary runners in the center each 4 ft (1.2 m) runner.

Part 3 of 3:
Installing the Ceiling Tiles



1

Make holes in the tiles for any lighting or ductwork first.Locate any areas on your ceiling where you need to make an opening for your ducts or light fixtures. Trace the end of the duct or the size of the light feature onto the back of one of your tiles. Cut the shape out of the tile with a sharp utility knife.[11]If you’re installing a full-panel fluorescent light fixture, you don’t need to cut any shapes from the tiles.



2

Trim any edge tiles down to size with a utility knife. Your room will most likely have edges that won’t fit full-sized tiles. Measure the grid opening for the tile and add 3⁄8 in (0.95 cm) to the measurement you found. Transfer that measurement to tile and cut the piece to size using a utility knife.[12]Avoid using any power equipment to cut your tiles since it will generate a lot of dust.

Tip: Tiles usually come in 2 ft × 4 ft (0.61 m × 1.22 m) or 2 ft × 2 ft (0.61 m × 0.61 m) sizes. While 2 ft × 4 ft (0.61 m × 1.22 m) tiles use less material and are more cost effective, they do not have the same versatility as 2 ft × 2 ft (0.61 m × 0.61 m) tiles.
Cut out a 3⁄8 in (0.95 cm) flange in any cut edge of your tiles. The flanges rest on your runners and make the tile have more dimension when you put it in your ceiling. Measure in 3⁄8 in (0.95 cm) from any edge that doesn’t have a flange and draw a line with a pencil. Follow along the line with a utility knife, only cutting halfway through the tile. Make another cut on the side of the tile at the same depth as your first cut to remove the flange piece.[13]This only needs to be done if your tiles don’t have flanges already.



4

Lift the tiles through the grid and set them on top of the grid.Start in the center of your room and work towards the edges. Angle the tiles and lift them through the grid system. Straighten the tiles out before setting the flanges on the runners. Continue putting the tiles into your ceiling until it’s completely covered.[14]Make sure the tiles are level as you install them. If you find any that aren’t level, adjust the runners before moving on.
Tips

Have a partner help you to make it easier to hang runners and tiles.

Always double check your measurements to make sure they’re accurate.

Warnings

Avoid using power tools when working with tiles since they could create a lot of dust.

Things You’ll Need

Tape measure

Level

Pencil or chalk line

Wall angles

Tin snips

Stud finder

Electric screwdriver

1 1⁄4 in (3.2 cm) screws

Wall runners

String

Lag screwdriver bit

Eyelet screws

16-gauge wire

Pliers

Utility knife

Muyi002:
Brotherly, thanks.

But I don't get your point very well. Abeg expantiate well

I am not a professional engineer but I read it online that to install suspended ceiling (like the one we see in banks), you must prepare your walls to be perfectly smooth so that it won't damage the quality of a wall angle ( wall angle is the one of the ceiling components)

ArcToyin:
Do you mean ceiling here and plastering?
If yes, ceiling before plastering so that you will not have to be patching gaps between ceiling and walls.

Suspended ceiling is different to other ceilings. Because of the iron required, plastering shld come before ceiling so that there won't be any space between wall angle and wall and to reserve the quality of wall angle that could be damage by non smooth surface.

I would like the ogas like haji to say something

Muyi002:
Hello Good People,

Please for suspended ceiling, which should come first. the ceiling or the pastering.

Someone shld please talk about this

topsy23:
12 Ways distribution board have different type. we have :
ABB
Schneider
ABT
Harvel.

Why 12ways 3phace DB

For a 4bedroom below is major things to be considered
AC 6(four rooms, sitting and dining =6-circuits)
water heater( 4bathrooms and kitchen = 5-circuit)
Cooker 1-circuit
15A socket in kitchen 1-circuit
Light 4-circuit
Socket 3-circuit

Total number of circuit 20-circuits

so 8ways 3phase is okay for your 4 bedroom flat

You can visit here
https://www.nairaland.com/2668061/abb-distibution-board-schneider-distribution/6

Thanks for the infor. Am grateful to the detail.

Please, list them in order of the reliability and indicate the likely price sr

Thanks

Which of the 12 ways distribution board product is good for four bedrooms bungalow. Please, I don't want to spend two times as I am doing it small small

mypains:
Boss, there are specifications and criterion.

Say it sr

mypains:
We need lands in Ibadan, Oyo State.

Olodo and Omi adio to be precise.

Is there anyone here that we can work with to help find? Mind you verification will be done before we proceed and that means no room for fraudulent dealings or time wasters.

And if all checks out right, we will both smile at the end.

I am doing this to save time as I am not in Oyo state at the moment. So count this as a grace of God.

If you are down with this, please quote me.

I have a plot of land at ogbanla area of wire and cable before omi ADIO Ibadan

Bankyshinani:
Greetings to you boss,where can i get this shortspan aluminium and which is the best among those brands you mentioned..
Thanks

You can he it at Iwo road Ibadan and bank road dugbe Ibadan and many other building material houses in every city

Alhamdulillah for the work done

HsLBroker:
Ok sir

Still waiting

Give me price for:
4*4-11
3*4-1
3*3-1
2*2-5
Casement with burglary and net
Send it to takoro12@gmail.com

Perfecttouchade:
I knew of someone with similar experience too and noticed thesame goes to everyone in that environment, only those that did German floor and DPc were safe... recently spoke with someone on the issue and was told that if only they had done those things stated, they wont be going through such and the cracks keeps coming from different places, like close to door frames, wall demarcation areas etc...the cracks are always increasing during dry season too, someone suggested we break those crack regions and fill with small 8" rods or bottles then dress with good quantity of cement..

Am sorry for this. I have seen a building with good German floor still experience this kind of crack. The situation is pathetic. There are some places here where you experience re-digging of well bcs of sand from well wall fell back to well water and fill it up. I must tell us my septic hole has several cracks around the wall and this will definitely happen under the whole house.
Thanks

Hargbo:
Firstly, You need to make sure your roof is not leaking o.
The solution is for you to regash, redress and shine the crack line .. just call any Pop guy to come with a bit of POP powder and FILAX, It will do the trick

But before doing all this check your roofing for leakage and your walls for ground moisture seepage


Cheers

The part I don't understand it linking of roof. How do you mean sr. Can linking of roof cause this kind of crack.
Thanks

Johnadelaide00:
Pls how can this defect be solved.

Cracks shows up whenever its dry season

This is one of problems facing here (ILESA). Some claim the foundation is faulty forgetting the state of the land as a whole. Google can help with the likely solution, sr.

bobkezel:
Congratulations baba. Ahead ahead.
How much is the short span now, and how many bundles did u use?

Thanks
Short span price depend on products ranging from sumo to aarti to champion etc. Price range from 17000 to 23000 per bundle. I used two for facial and outside ceiling, Fourteen and three pieces for roofing to make it 16 bundles three pieces.

Alhamdulillah

bobkezel:
What kind of roofing sheet are u using?

Short span roofing sheet. Done and dusted. Alhamdulillah

Journey so far. Tomorrow by His grace, roofing sheet will be done.

soonest:
I'm a sis
99 years of ownership you saw is referring to the the C of O. One bedroom house is because it was designed to be a low cost housing estate, it doesn't mean that you are mandated to build a one bedroom flat. Go to the Fed ministry of Land in your state and get clarification to all the gray areas. We have done something similar to yours, a deed of gift and that was how we handled it. Nothing can be done on that land in terms of buying and selling, developing etc without the ministries approval.

Thanks

soonest:
Tell him you will like to hear from his daughter. If it's the daughter's then deal directly with her. A lawyer will draft a deed of transfer both signed by you, then you take it to federal ministry of land so that they capture you as the real owner and C of O will come in your name. Goodluck

Thanks bro, reading the body of attached page I am afraid of terms and conditions like the allocation. It read that one bedroom house, 99 years of ownership and on.

olaleye2real:
Good afternoon sir

Send your number to takoro12@gmail.com

Guy day to everyone in the group. I need enlightenment from my ogas in the house. The issue is that I want to buy a parcel of land from a man. He took me to the land and we agreed on the price. He ask me to pay a little as he claimed not to have money to pay for the man that will open the real space to be sold. After little talk I agreed to give him money as he is my area brother like that. I gave him #100k. My thinking was I am going to pay the remaining after my SURVIOR visit the place. I was surprised when my SURVIOR got there and told me the land is a government land and he called four others to confirm it. Now the man said there is no issue as the land has been allocated to him with the attached documents. Seeing the document, the name on it (tinted) is not my name nor his name but his daughter name.
Please, what could be the consequence of someone occupying such land bcs I have no knowledge about it and don't want the buyer in trouble now or then

Besthand2266:
Helo everyone I need a good trust worthy building engineer please help

Where is your project?

todoindallas:
please where can i get a good stoned coatted roofing sheet? most of the ones in market are bad grade china,very ligth,like .04 thicknes.thank you

Call Imran +234 808 531 0359 the master of roofing

Perfecttouchade:
the original one is around 4000-5000naira(not sure of price but within the range) in 5litres, you don't need to mix all the solighum in the black oil...

Thanks for the info.

Perfecttouchade:
you will mix the black oil with solighum...u should get the 5litre of that black oil around 500-1000naira.

How many litre of Solighum to 5 litre and how much is solighum

Who has experience of using black oil (vehicle used oil) to treat roof wood shld please share his/her experience here. Someone recommend it for me. How sure preventive is it.

Carcass wood is on ground. Preventive measure was carried out to prevent it from infections

ArcToyin:
For the 3 bedroom
1) The door of ante room leading to the lobby should be closed. A visitor can have access to your bedroom while you are in living room without knowing
2) If I were him, I will remove all the block wall of dinning leading to the lobby. It will make the lobby have more illumination
3) The lobby is too long, it is not a face me and face you apartment.

For the 1 bedroom
1) You dont need a dinning for them. It is extra cost for you.

For the 2 bedroom
1) Dinning door should always open to kitchen direct and not a roundabout turning.

I have another opinion for ante room. I suggest there is door linking to passage from ante but shld be in mind that the door there is more control door like door that can be open from behind only or jam key door. The reason is when you have reason to welcome multitude visitors like event day or on emergency situation. This reason was enough for me to introduced door linking passage

hello everyone,
please help me check the good and bad of this quotation for four bedroom bungalow

43 no's of 3by 4
6 no's of 2by6
180 no's of 2by4
130 no's of2by3
200nos of2by2
18nos of 1by12

IRon zink
14 boundles of iron zink (R S P)
16nos of rigi cap
3 no's of gutter

Nails
2bag of 4"nails
1bag of 2. 1/2nails
4 dogens of ojangba
7parket of eso alade

pxc attached

Good day brothers. Please who has knowlegde about RSP roofing sheet should enlighten me on it reliability, price consideration, color change and price. Someone recommend RSP roofing sheet.
Am still waiting for response oo