Truvelisback:
Is God responsible for the things u suffered?

Ayo081:


The Hebrew word translated as "circle" is chuwg. It translates the concept of something round, rounded, or dome shaped and can be applied to a spherical shape.

Ayo081:


I perceived that you want just evidences and not experience. Even though many signs exist and I bet you can't experience Mars until you travel there.

Ayo081:

How could a book written by someone who never traveled to the space confirm that the earth is not flat?.

Truvelisback:
God is real. I'm still wondering abt the evidence u are seeking. What evidence are u seeking?

oaroloye:
MISHIGAS!



IT IS THE HEIGHT OF FOOLISHNESS TO EXAGGERATE THE ATTRIBUTES OF YAHWEH GOD: HE HAS NEVER CLAIMED TO POSSESS ATTRIBUTES OF OMNIPOTENCE, OMNISCIENCE, NOR OMNIPRESENCE.

The first four chapters of THE BOOK OF GENESIS categorically rule out such a Doctrine.

God took finite Time to create the Earth in stages. An OMNIPOTENT BEING would have created everything in an instant- or at least one day.

He had to cross-examine Adam to discover the facts of The Fall of Man.

An OMNISCIENT BEING tells you what happened, and needs to ask nothing.

An OMNIPRESENT BEING cannot DEPART and RETURN, nor express ignorance about what happened in His ABSENCE.

God was unable to repair the damage caused by The Fall of Man.

None of those spurious Attributes was on hand to save FAVOURED ABEL.

GOD was not OMNISCIENT to predict his murder by Cain, nor perceive it happening.

GOD was not OMNIPRESENT to be there to know what happened.

GOD was not OMNIPOTENT to prevent nor reverse the killing.

ATHEISTS AND RELIGIOUS HYPOCRITES, CRITICIZING OR EXAGGERATINGTHE BIBLE, KNOW ALL THESE FACTS- YET PRETEND NOT YO KNOW THEM, IN ORDER TO DISTORT THE CONCEPT OF GOD.

Why am I the only one talking about this?

THERE ARE EIGHT LEVELS OF EXISTENCE: SEVEN HEAVENLY, AND THE EARTHLY.

These levels differ in Spiritual Energy, Wisdom and Understanding.

. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "

. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.'

10. "For as the rain
cometh down,
and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth
and bud,
that it may give seed
to the Sower,
and bread to the Eater:
11. "So shall My Word be
that goeth forth
out of My Mouth:
It shall not
return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish
that which I please,
and It shall prosper
(in the thing)
whereto I sent It."

. 2^nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. AMOS 3:3.

3. Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised
The Day of Small Things?
For they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel
with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro
through the whole Earth.

EARTHLY SPIRIT BEINGS OPERATE BY EARTHLY LAW: HEAVENLY SPIRITS OPERATE BY HEAVENLY LAW- HUMANS CAN CHOOSE TO LIVE BY EARTHLY LAW OR HEAVENLY LAW.

Therefore, Sinners can be compared to the Animals- but there are Animals in Heaven, too. Some of them have come to Earth, and manifested as SuperHuman Beings.

Humans Ascending into Heaven must devolve into Beasts, if they want to Translate beyond the THIRD HEAVEN.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985).]



GOD IS NOT IN ALL HUMANS: THAT IS WHAT MAKES STUPIDITY, SIN, AND DEATH POSSIBLE.

. DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20.

19. I call Heaven and Earth
to record this day against you,
that I have set before you
Life and Death,
Blessing and Cursing:
therefore CHOOSE LIFE,

That both thou
and thy seed may live:

20. That thou mayest
love The LORD thy God,

And that thou mayest
obey His Voice,

and that thou mayest
cleave unto Him:

for He is thy Life,
and the Length of thy days:

That thou mayest dwell
in the land
which The LORD Sware
unto thy fathers,
to Abraham, to Isaac,
and to Jacob,
to give them.

. JOHN 12:42-50.

42. Nevertheless among
the chief Rulers also
many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees
they did not confess him,
lest they should be
put out of the Synagogue:
43. For they loved
the praise of men
more than The Praise of God.

44. Jesus Cried and Said,

“He that believeth on me,
believeth not on me,
but on Him that sent me.
45. “And he that seeth me
seeth Him that sent me.
46. “I am come a Light
into the World,
that whosoever
believeth on me
should not
abide in Darkness.
47. “And if any man
hear my Words,
and believe not,
I judge him not:
for I came not
to judge the World,
but to save the World.
48. “He that rejecteth me,
and receiveth not my Words,
hath One that judgeth him:
The Word that I have Spoken,
the Same shall judge him
in The Last Day.
49. “For I have not
Spoken of myself;
but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a Commandment,
what I should Say,
and what I should Speak.
50. “And I know that
His Commandment
is Life Everlasting:
whatsoever I Speak therefore,
even as The Father Said unto me,
so I Speak."

. JOHN 14:1-28.

"LET not your hear
be troubled:
ye believe in God,
believe also in me.
2. "In my Father's House
there are Mansions:
if it were not so,
I would have told you.
3. "And if I go
and prepare a place for you,
I will come again,
and receive you unto myself;
that where I am,
there ye may be also.
4. "And whither I go ye know,
and The Way ye know."

5. Thomas saith unto him,

"Lord, we know not
whither thou goest;
and how can we
know The Way?"

6. Jesus Saith unto him,

"I am The Way,
The Truth,
and The Life:
no man cometh
unto The Father,
but by me.
7. "If ye had known me,
ye should have known
my Father also:
and from henceforth
ye know Him,
and have seen Him."

8. Philip saith unto him,

"Lord, shew us the Father,
and it sufficeth us."

9. Jesus Saith unto him,

"Have I been
so long time with you,
and yet hast thou not
known me, Philip?
He that hath seen me
hath seen The Father;
and how sayest thou then,

'SHEW US THE FATHER?'

10. "Believest thou not
that I am in The Father,
and The Father in me?
The Words that I Speak
unto you I Speak not
of myself:
but The Father
that dwelleth in me,
He doeth the Works.
11. "Believe me that I am
in The Father,
and The Father in me:
or else believe me
for the very Works' sake.
12. "Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

'HE THAT BELIEVETH ON ME,
THE WORKS THAT I DO
SHALL HE DO ALSO;
AND GREATER WORKS
THAN THESE SHALL HE DO;
BECAUSE I GO
UNTO MY FATHER.'

13. "And whatsoever ye shall
ask in my Name,
that will I do,
that The Father may be
Glorified in The Son.
14. "If ye shall ask
any thing in my Name,
I will do it.
15. "If ye love me,
keep my Commandments.
16. "And I will pray The Father,
and He shall give you
another Comforter,
that He may abide with you
for ever;
17. "Even The Spirit of Truth;
Whom the World cannot receive,
because It seeth Him not,
neither knoweth Him:
but ye know Him;
for He dwelleth with you,
and shall be in you.
18. "I will not leave you comfortless:
I will come to you.
19. "Yet a little while,
and the World
seeth me no more;
but ye see me:
because I live,
ye shall live also.
20. "At that Day
ye shall know
that I am in my Father,
and ye in me,
and I in you.
21. "He that hath
my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it
that thou wilt
manifest thyself
unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and the Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's
Which sent me.
25. "These things
have I Spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But The Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father will send
in my Name,
He shall Teach you
all things,
and bring all things
to your Remembrance,
whatsoever I have Said
unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart
be troubled,
neither let it be afraid.
28. "Ye have heard
how I Said unto you,

'I GO AWAY,
AND COME AGAIN
UNTO YOU.'

If ye loved me,
ye would rejoice,
because I Said,

'I GO UNTO THE FATHER:'

for my Father
is greater than I."

GOD IS, AND CAN ONLY BE, IN THOSE WHO CHOOSE LIFE- THOSE WHO OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS OF LIFE, NO MATTER WHAT.

He cannot be in anyone else, without killing them.



PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS CANNOT CARE ABOUT EVERY HUMAN- THEY ARE ONLY SAYING THIS IN ORDER TO CLAIM AUTHORITY



GOD- ACCORDING TO YOU- IS OMNIPOTENT, OMNISCIENT, AND OMNIPRESENT- IF THAT IS TRUE, HOW CAN WE HAVE SIN, SICKNESS, PAIN, POVERTY, WEAKNESS, IGNORANCE, CONFUSION, MADNESS, AND DEATH.

Such stupid Doctrines depend on ATTENTION-DEFICIT DISORDER inability to THINK about OBVIOUS EXCEPTIONS to your stupid Theory that YOU and THOSE HEEDING this your BULLSHIT all know about.



ON THE BASIS OF THIS STUPID THEORY, THEY WANTED TO EXECUTE LORD YESHUA, SAYING THAT YAHWEH GOD COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE WORKING ON THE SABBATH DAY.

What function does God have in Man that you have observed or postulated, that ceases on every Sabbath Day?

OBVIOUSLY, YOU ARE JUST MAKING UP FOOLISH LIES, TO DECEIVE AND DESTROY AS MANY AS YOU CAN, ALONG WITH YOU!



THIS IS HYPOCRITICAL DRIVEL, MERELY MEANT TO MESMERIZE THE WEAK-MINDED.

All these useless Attributes are in every insane, ignorant, and dying Human there is- according to you, right?



I AM REMINDED OF THE SCENE IN THE MOVIE SHOGUN, BASED ON THE TRUE LIFE STORY OF WILL ADAMS, THE FIRST ENGLISHMAN TO LAND ON JAPAN.

Given a lordship, he was drinking with his men, and thinking to complement his Chief Archer, he toasted him, with: "MAY THE GODS GIVE YOU A STEADY ARM!"

The Archer was deeply offended at that!

Without riding from where he was seated, he deployed his bow, nocked arrows, and fired them one at a time, through the wall of the house. (Which was made of paper.)

The arrows exited through the same tiny hole. (This film was shot before the invention of CGI.) He later went outside to verify that the arrows all hit the same post (whose position he was aware of, without looking,) and all entered the same hole.

The point (no pun intended,) was that in Japan, you don't pray for the gods to give you what you already have. There was nothing wrong with that guy's arm.



THERE IS NO WAY THAT YOU BELIEVE IN THE ONE REAL GOD.

You don't know the first thing about Him, and are just making up drivel.



GOD DOES NOT WATCH SINNERS, BECAUSE HE WOULD EITHER HAVE YO JUDGE THEM, OR BE COMPLICIT IN THEIR SINS.

Atheists think themselves so important, that if God Existed, He must watch their every move, and project their children from molesters, murderers, and diseases.

As if they deserved His Help.



IF GOD DOES WHAT EVERYONE DOES, THEN HE IS A BIPOLAR SCHIZOPHRENIC MANIAC, DOING BOTH GOOD AND EVIL.

How does that work?

That is not The God The Bible Teaches: who fights with His people against Evil.

Here is what GOD does:

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25:1-30.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.

God is with those who agree with Him on PERCEPTIONS and RECALLS.

God is with those who agree with Him on Power over MEST.

God is with those who agree with Him on EVERLASTING LIFE.

He is not with those who DOUBT those things.



THAT YOU WERE NEVER TAUGHT HISTORY IN SCHOOL IS NO EXCUSE FOR SUCH IMBECILIC IGNORANCE!



PROOF OF THE ADAGE: "EVEN A BUSTED-ASS CLOCK CAN GIVE THE RIGHT TIME TWICE IN ONE DAY!"





"A BUSTED CLOCK CAN BE CORRECT TWICE IN ONE DAY."

Not this time, however.

You only THINK you are prospering, but you are not.

YOUR BRAIN CREATES 1,500 NEW NEURONS EVERY DAY- WHILE 50,000 DIE.

These are a priceless resource.

STEVE JOBS became a BILLIONAIRE ATHEIST- then came down with PANCREATIC CANCER. He tried BUYING a Pancreas- but it failed.

What shall it profit a man...





BLASPHEMY IS FUN- UNTIL THE DAY YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.



THE MORE UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE, THE LESS MEST YOU NEED.

With TOTAL UNDERSTANDING, you need neither MATTER, ENERGY, SPACE, nor TIME- only your MIND.

Half of great writing or speaking is not saying everything that you can say.

People who talk too much are tiresome, especially those who are not informative, thought-provoking, or funny.

Which do you believe most likely to enter an insane convention, a body of English gentlemen honoured by the favour of their Sovereign and the confidence of their fellow-subjects, managing your affairs for five years, I hope with prudence, and not altogether without success, or a sophistical rhetorician, inebriated with the exuberance of his own verbosity, and gifted with an egotistical imagination that can at all times command an interminable and inconsistent series of arguments to malign an opponent and to glorify himself?

-Benjamin Disraeli

In some places he draws the thread of his verbosity finer than the staple of his argument.

-Dr. Porson, of Gibbon's Decline and Fall, quoted in the Letters to Travis.

Verbosity wastes a portion of the reader’s or listener’s life

Truvelisback:
What makes u think that God is not real?

Tamaratonye1:

I'd just say I'm an atheist because Christians have not been able to show me convincing evidence their god is real.

Ayo081:


Would you trust the quoted with your Mum, Dad or Husband?

God is not a stranger

Never compare Him to Man.

Why not look into reasons why it seems God is a stranger.

And it's in the Bible. Again you need to empty your mind.

No one will give you desired evidence. You have to seek Him.

Ayo081:


Even the Pharisees saw signs and wonders, still they didn't believe.

How much more you.



Many came with signs and wonders in His name but did you believe?

Signs, wonders or research is not enough.

It takes faith.

Tamaratonye5:

This is where religion makes people into irresponsible and illogical creatures, in my opinion of course. I am confident you are a "good" person, and if we encountered each other in person, notwithstanding anything religion, we would probably buy drinks and enjoy a wonderful time together.

But then along comes religion. You advocate fully buying into something, without checking it out. But ask yourself, do you do that in any other aspect of your life? Would you send five million naira to a complete stranger because he says "trust me", in the promise of a ten-fold return? Or buy a house without first having it inspected? Of buy a car without checking out how reliable it is? Would you send your children to a school that you did not check out first? Or cross a major express road without looking both ways?

Please, ponder the folly of accepting anything before some form of validation or examination.

Truvelisback:
I spoke with u in Ijaw language, it seems u didn't get me. Why did u become an atheist?

hupernikao:
All these you wrote hasn't address the point

1. You tried to put on God what he never said in his word.

2. That man's help is not in riches that you have nor is it in man's achievement.

You said much but leaving much out of context.

That your text in your OP had been considered historically, scripturally, doctrinally and logically to be false on God. You only want to make an accusation but you got it wrong. Your decision on the scriptures shouldn't be based on what is generally said or accepted around but what the scriptures taught.

That is the correction you should receive.

Truvelisback:
Are u an atheist?

hupernikao:


You speak on what you don't have knowledge of, in such class, you are to sit and listen and learn. Trying to prove points in such room, will seriously expose your ignorance.

You are speaking about the scripture, I gave you an absolute summary of what the scriptures taught, yet because you want to drive a false point, you are working on making a point without having point.

hupernikao:

I put it to you again. That you have been exposed to false teaching of the scriptures. All your premise of argument against the scriptures were never in the first place addressing what the scriptures taught. You are only been derailed by false information you are fed with and that's seems to be what you built your whole knowledge foundation on.

hupernikao:

You will need to start getting a proper explanation of what the scripture taught, so that your argument will truly attack the rudiments of the faith. Currently your argument put you in the same space as those who exposed you or preached to you the false doctrine that form your experiences against the scriptures in life. It's more like throwing stones to hit the moon.

hupernikao:

He (man) needs help, beyond his riches, technology, advancement and exploit. He will never find satisfaction in it.

So your statement never negate what I wrote, infact it actually affirmed it. That man, by himself can achieve much without needing God. All you listed as achievement doesn't need God to have. They are within man's capability and knowledge. And if you are truly taught the scriptures well, you will know that isn't the focus of the scripture. The scriptures is not meant to solve what man can solve. But to solve what man seek to solve but never find answers. That is the help the Bible taught.

hupernikao:

God's satisfaction is not in riches and human achievement and man's problem is not in riches and achievement. When you know the singular, primary, and most fundamental problem of man, that which makes man incapable, is that which dissolves all his intelligence and skills in its brooding waves. Then you will know man's help is not within him but in the graciousness of one who has helped man with a open hand to receive.

hupernikao:

So get this again about the scriptures teaching.

That is, a helpless man, found help in the graciousness of a gracious God. That helplessness is universal. And can't be solved with gold, riches, technology or achievement.

LordReed:
What does he need to do but sit back and watch porn?

hupernikao:
Man is helpless, he has no ability or capability to help himself, he is dead to life and light. The more he tried to help himself, the more he found out his incapability to help himself.

hupernikao:
He needs help, beyond his riches, technology, advancement and exploit. He will never find satisfaction in it. Because this never solve the problem or handles man's problem that always expose his incapability and helplessness to him.

Judas1X:

Funny how anything given the name "God" always ends up not existing anymore

budaatum:


You are however obviously drawn here Tama, lol. I guess like to a mad person on the street though.

budaatum:
I gain a lot from reading that humans were described as being so dumb that Adam believed that Eve was a rib. It helps me appreciate how far we have come.

budaatum:
Also is it written that you should, "ask and knock and seek with all your heart and soul and mind", so "just reading" is clearly out of the question for those seeking to understand.

LordReed:


Budaatum is both he and she, use anyone you like.

budaatum:
The Bible is a rather big book that many can not read.

budaatum:
I read all books as a child, Tamaratonye.1.

budaatum:
It's called "suspending belief and disbelief", instead of blinding oneself with ones preconceived notions and beliefs.

budaatum:
Only after I understand can I adequately judge.

budaatum:
Hello again Tamaratonye.1

budaatum:


You don't need to be a Christian nor believe the Bible if you can read for yourself instead of letting others tell and interpret the book to you. And if you read it like a child with no preconceived indoctrination blinding you, which is how you read Aesop's Fables and Confucianism, with fresh eyes and no one preaching to you, you'd have gained understanding of your own instead of stumbling on interpretations and beliefs of the ignorant, because that "heaping, steaming pile of contradictions" is intended to provoke your brain into action.

Best thing is, it can do it without you knowing, if you read it that is, or if you're lazy like me, pay to have it read to you for free.

hupernikao:


But same Romans historian wrote about Christ...

Tamaratonye1:

The Romans wrote about a "chrestos". They said nothing about a "christ". Christ is a title, and there were a number of messiah (christos) claimants at the time. There is no reason to think that because you only know about one, there was only one, and that's what the Romans were talking about

hupernikao:


Like I said. Go and check your history well. It seems to have a gap. Read your history well. Someone can mistaken you for lying with tye above. But for me, am sure it's a gap in knowledge you need to close.

Oladimeji247:
1. You are not serious. The vast majority consensus from the scholars regarding the Testimonium is that it almost certainly had a nucleus regarding Jesus. Sure, in the Greek transcripts we see what appears to be a Christianaized alteration of the original text regarding Jesus, but virtually all scholars agree that, because we have the Syriac and Arabic versions of the Testimonium, there was with almost certainly a mention of Jesus, that he was regarded as the Christ, and that he was executed by Pontius Pilate.

Since we have the text in 3 different languages, and they vary from each other, it demonstrates that there was almost certainly something written about Jesus Christ by Josephus in that section.

The modern scholars who disagree can be counted on the fingers of one hand, with likely a couple fingers left over. At last count, over 100 scholars world-wide are in agreement. These are experts in the field, and their reasons for agreeing are because of the physical evidence.

Now, if we take 4 or 5 scientists who disagree that the fossil record indicates evolution, while 125 agree that it does indicate evolution, what would you think of those 5 scientists? Studying the fossil record is not unlike studying history, because in fact it is the study of the history of evolution.

Therefore, if we can dismiss the opinions of 5 crackpot scientists, equally we can dismiss the opinions of 5 crackpot historians, such as Richard Carrier and that lot of wannabe somebodies.

And if we can dismiss the opinions of crackpot historians, then we can most certainly dismiss the opinions of crackpot armchair critics such as yourself.

Oladimeji247:
That would be irrelevant if he was an "orthodox" Jew. To him, Jesus was just a pretender, and not actually a Messiah.

Oladimeji247:


2. If Josephus was an orthodox Jew who didn't believe that Jesus was the Messiah, why would he write much about him?

Oladimeji247:
And does that somehow mean that James, his brother, did not become an apostle sometime shortly before, or after the crucifixion? The Gospel records chronicle the situation in real time, during the purported life of Jesus. Also, the Gospel records have different lists of the 12 apostles. (Matt 10:2, Luke 6;13). This either shows inaccuracy, or possibly how apostles were changed as the ministry progressed.

And if we are going to glean any history out of the NT, we can refer to Acts where they assigned apostleship to Mattias because Judas was dead. This is proof again that apostles were changed out as the religion progressed.

Therefore, his brother James could have easily be appointed as an apostle.

Its brevity disproves its authenticity. Josephus' work is voluminous and exhaustive. It comprises twenty books. Whole pages are devoted to petty robbers and obscure seditious leaders. Nearly forty chapters are devoted to the life of a single king. Yet this remarkable being, the greatest product of his race, a being of whom the prophets foretold ten thousand wonderful things, a being greater than any earthly king, is dismissed with a dozen lines....

The vast majority of scholars since the early 1800s have said that this quotation is not by Josephus, but rather is a later Christian insertion in his works.