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@BigB1,

Don't buy that baseless statement; it is all politics talk. So far, she hasn't stated anything from her own mind (all these statements you're crying about were written for her by G-dumb Bush's writer)

For Christ sake, this chick was a mayor (of about 7,000 population) for few years; then, after kissing few ass she became the governor.

That is the blittling that Obama did that caused Sarah to draw comparison between her role as a mayor and Obama's as a community organizer. The comparison was so apt that Obama couldn' help but whine. In any case, her job as a mayor gave her more executive experience than Obama has ever had. Please prove me wrong if you can.

Please, keep in mind that she is the governor of Alaska, not New York. Have you been to Alaska before?

She is governor nonetheless. Has Obama ever govern anything except his household?

My friend, I'm sorry to inform you that she has only been tested at college level. Just wait and see; the real test is ahead of us.

At college level indeed. She's defeated special interests, the Big Oil compnaies and Ted Stephens, the longest serving US Senator. What has Obama done?

She is no Hillary; she will break down in few weeks.

Of course she's not. Hillary sought votes by trying to paint herself as a victim. She considered herself viable for presidency by the many fights she claimed she fouhgt, even though she never won any. Palin on the other hand runs on her record and principles that she not only articulates, but follows. The difference here is very, very clear.

@BigB1,

It is simply foolish to continue to waste time on this chick; even the Republicans have realized their mistake. It is clear that this lady is absolutely not the right choice.

She's absolutely not the right choice from the Democratic point of view. How can she be when she has thrown the DNC into a state of panic?

President and VP spots are not for everybody and that doesn't mean the unqualified ones are stupid; these positions require more than just a fancy smile, long legs, hockey stick and bunch of kids.

Your point? I can see we are faced with a bunch of sexists here!

I still have confidence that this chick would break down in few weeks.

Dream that and imagine it for all you want and care, it'll never happen. She's tough, tested and is up to the challenge. Like she said, the difference between a hockey mom and a pit-bull is "lipstick".

@Davidylan,

Obama did not "demean" Palin's experience, he simply asked a valid question that everyone, even from within the republican establishment, have been asking . . . what does she bring to the table aside from her vagina? Everyone including you have been "demeaning" Obama's lack of experience for the last yr, it says a lot for John McCain who made inexperience the focal point of his debates with Obama that he goes out and picks a woman who didnt have a US passport until 2007!

I have debated by your side and in your face a number of times on this forum. I must confess, this is the most ridiculous statement that ever came from you. It potrays you as nothing but an egocentric sexists who cannot see beyond skirts and pants. How dare you make such a statement? You demean not just her, but every woman out there. You really need to apologise for that statement. That shouldn't be too hard to do since we are in a political climate - apologies flow like its going out of business

What she brings to the table is a record of achievement never before seen in Alaska. Within two years of being a Gov, she turned the States deficit into surplus, took on the big oil that even Bush has shied away from. She renogotiated long standing deals with them that didn't favor her State. She had so much money in hand that every Alaskan citizen received a check of at least $1,600. Remember the tax rebate checks we got? Bush, Congress and Obama Senate sourced for that money from China. Palin on the other hand never borrowed a dime. And by the way, she did all this while cutting taxes. And compared to the other "dick-wielding" Govs (excuse my pun), she has the highest approval rating in the country.

Yup . . . I just see Palin with her moose head trying to convince Assad to stop supporting Hezbollah.

This is the same Palin that fought and defeated an incumbent 2 term Republican Governor, same for a 20 year career democratic former Gov of Alaska. This is the same gal that stood up to Ted Stevens, the longest serving Republican Senator, and you think she will shy away from anyone? I like the way you underestimate her. The only person comparable to her is Senator McCain. Please tell us how many times Obama and Biden have stood up to their Parties to demand change? Like McCain said, he and Palin are running on a record, but Biden and Obama are running on rhetorics even though they've had ample opportunities to make the change they are now mouthing to further their careers.

Rubbish. You just parrot right wing talking points with no proof. What is Palin's experience as governor really?

You might want to go through my submission above.

To say that Palin has got more record of achievement than Biden is so absurd i stop short of laughing at you . . .

The theme of this race is "change". Like I mentioned above and proved, Palin has a record while Biden does not.

when Biden was working as a Senator, Palin was still running around naked in the rain.

And where was Obama? Wallowing in the mud?

@BigB1,

And what would you do?

Exactly what Sarah Palin and her family did - let the girl handle the responsibilitites of her action. Afterall, she's an adult. Why kill an innocent life just to make your life easier or for a political merit?

@Davidylan,

Obama started by demeaning Palin's experience regarding her 2 term as a Mayor in Alaska. Palin rightfully responded by comparing her background as a Mayor to Obama's as a Community Organizer. Obama came out whining after that and I can see Palin also hit a nerve with you.

In any case, as light as you may say her experience is, she's got more experience than Obama and has a record of achievement that Obam and Biden envy. And while Obama has written two memoirs about his favorite subject (himself), there is no legislation that bears his name, no record of uniting or working across party lines like McCain, no standing up to special interests within his Party like Palin etc, In short, Palinhas more experience to be the President and/or VP than Obama has to be both.

@BigB1,

I wonder what would have happened if it was Obama's daughter (Sasha) that was the one pregnant at the age of 17 year and still in high school.

The story would have been totally different as obama would have had the pregnancy terminated. Afterall, is he not the one who said he wouldn't want his teenahge daughter to be punished with a pregnancy if she made such a mistake.

@Queenisha,

all you folks going goo goo and gaa gaa over Sarah wait till the Ethics committee in her homestate finishes their investigation on her alledged misconduct.

Maybe you should also wait till the investigation is concluded before you condemn her. I assume that you are no hypocrite and that you also think the advice you give others are relevatn to you as well.

The woman has too much baggage  and no shame.

Tell me who doesn't have any baggage. Is it the Clintons or the Obamas? From sexual misconducts to associations with Terrorists who bankroll their purchase of houses. And by the way, every family have their baggage.

why on earth did McCain pick a woman with this many issues?

The issues are only a figment of your imagination. There is absolutely no issue here but a record of achievement that Obama can never match.

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t was very irresponsible of her to have accepted this nomination with her house on fire.
exposing her family and underaged children to this sort of ridicule

Her family is not on fire at all. Did you see them at the convention? This is evidently a close knit family who are standing by their daughter.

Her knocked up daughter,her affairs,her ethics violation,the scandal over who actually gave birth to Trig, her dipping into state funds to pay for a lawyer. ah ah one woman ,24 scandals.

Her knocked-up adult daughter's pregnancy is none of your business. What affair are you alluding to? She's married to her High School sweetheart for 20 years now. The scandal about the child is nothing but a figment of your imagination. paying for a lawyer to defend the Governor is pretty standard. You are just trying to cook up bacon when all you have is chicken.

Knowing all this,she should have quietly declined the nomination and led her quiet life in faraway Alaska  with her Eskimo man and no one would have ever known who she is. The stories just began.

If she was the coward you are encouraging her to be, she wouldn't have achieved was she's done in alaka so far.

What an irresponsible mother and wife.

Your personal attacks on her doesn't potray you as responsible.

Irresponsible not because her daughter got knocked up but because she refused to act like most responsible mothers would do in such circumstance i.e not expose their children to public ridicule.

So she is to blame for the adults who are attacking her daughter. Your logic beats me totally. You are making her responsible for the actions of other adults! Direct your anger at the people who are attacking the girl and not her mother who is standing by her daughter.

I have absolutely no high regards for such a woman

Believe me, the people who regard her won't even show you face.

@Bastage,

How old is McCain? If he is voted into office she is one failed heartbeat away from being President. Voting for McCain, one is also voting for the distinct possibility that one is also voting for Palin to replace him.

Did you watch the TV address by palin yesterday? If you did, you would have spotted McCains Mama in the crowd. Doesn't that tell you the guy is more likely to be around for the next decade than he isn't? This won't be the first time the guy gets counted out and always, he will make a great comeback.

McCain is 72 years old. The average age of a US male is 76. If he follows the law of averages, he will not see out his term of office. And let's not even go near the fact that he has already had health issues.

Let's just assume that he kicks the bucket as you so anticipates. The mantle of leadereship will fall on the shoulders of Palin. This is a woman who is more experienced and has accomplished more in power than Obama has.

Don't kid yourself that she's just a VP (potentially).

She's definitely running for the VP post. You guys do yourself a great disservice by beaming the light on Palin's experience. The fact is that she's got more than the Democratic Presidential alternative.

@Sisikill,

Rotflmao! Now I know I am missing something. Profanity? Profanity? Sarcasm I get but profanity? Please help me out here (for future purposes) what and where is the profanity?

What is your take on the "Jeebus H. Christo!"? Isn't that saying Jesus H. Christo which amongst other things is used as profanity? Consider this article in wikipedia: Jesus H. Christ is an example of slang serving as a mild profanity.[1] The expression can be used in an angry, wry, sarcastic, cynical, exasperated, or even joking tone. The expression implies that the Christ is a surname rather than a title (Christ comes from the Greek christos meaning "anointed." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_H._Christ

I never came here to engage in any roforofo fight, I came here to state what I believe (which I still believe). . . just as you are, you took me to task by reading something else into my posts, I tried to correct you but you refused to see it and I left it at that.

I don't have a problem with you expressing your views. The only time I took issue was when you tried to make us believe your comments were purely out of concern for the girl. I pointed out the fact that if that was the case, I would have expected you to include not just her mother, but her father as well as the boys parents in the debate. Putting the blame squarely on the shoulders on Sarah Palin suggests this is nothing but a political witch-hunt. Maybe I'm wrong, but that is the impression you created.

@Sisikill,

@ Tayo - D
Darn it! Can't put anything past you, huh? What can I say. . . you got me? Now I have to report back to base that our plan was foiled by an astute poster on Nairaland. It's not going to be easy, I'll tell you that right now. I mean 8 years of hard work (from when the Bush became president) gone done the drain all because we didn't put into consideration that someone out there will be able see through us.

Well done man! Well done! If we aren't on opposite sides (we are right? Okay) I'D shake your hands right now. Oh what the heck, I'm not a sore loser. . . put it right here pardner!

Jeebus H. Christo!

You sound like an intelligent person and I will welcome an objective debate with you that is based on facts. But if the sarcasm and profanity rocks your world, then enjoy it without me.

An e-handshake is welcome anytime. Since I'm in such a good mood after Sarah Palin's roof bursting address yesterday, I will not engage in any rofo-rofo fight with you.

@bamolowo,

comprehensive didn't just less than a decade ago. a flaw of the study highlighting 19-25 yr old as those who received teaching of absitinence, a state by state breakdown makes more sense.

Haba my guy. Let me try and paint a picture of what you are saying here. Assuming we try out some drugs on a few people in naija and another on a few people in Benin Republic. To know the effectiveness of the drugs, are we going to compare all the residents of Naija and Benin or are we going to look at those who were given the drugs? Of couerse it is those who received the drugs. So why are you trying to change the goal post in this case?

murder what, a goat, a human or something not yet developed in a woman's womb?? be specific here.

What is your definition of a human being? Life begins at conception and it is this life that the declaration of independence alludes to! If you do not know when life begins, why are you so quick then to abort the child?

would like u to point out those states because i've read difference this. u might want to take a look at this

The study above is very clear. This issue is not so much as the States but those who received the education.

it seems some conservative states may need some sex education. aint that right palin

Abstinence is a critical part of sex education.

and what makes your friends a representative sample of the US demographics.

Experience trumps mere assertions anytime. Please share with us those whom have gone bunkers while abstaining. That was your assertion innit?

so a woman's physical and mental state should be ignored just for the sake of the baby. the argument over when life begins hasn't been settled yet either.

Someone old enough to have sex must know its consequences. Where do youo hold them responsible for their actions? Read the declaration of independence again. Life comes ahead of anything else. Unless you want to tell us Thoma Jefferson was wrong.

it won't happen. that's just my opinion though

Maybe it will, maybe it won't but the reality on ground is that effort are being made through constitutional means to make that happen.

na lie

Is this now fast becoming a case of 'how readest thou"?

@Sisikill,

My desire? My Goal? My intentions? My God! Man do you hear yourself? Ay! It's like trying to get through to a brick wall and I won't even bother, obviously whatever it is that moves you about Sarah Palin also stops you from being reasonable. How else do you explain blaming the child, while giving the mother a free pass.

Why should I blame the mother for a consentual action between two adults? And by the way, why is the boy and his parents so far exempt from your outrage? The answer is very clear - your judgemnet is purely political. Since the guy, his family as well as Palin's husband are not game for you politically, you ignore them.

Oh yeah, something is definitely fuzzy here but it's not not my point, which is and will always be this - It is unfair to put a pregnant 17 years old girl in the middle of a political shitstorm.

Let me clear up your fuziness. The people crucifying the girl are the democratic media. You will do well to address them and not her mother who is standing by her and supporting her long before the media got a wind of it.

It doesn't matter how it came out, what matters is it would have and the girl will still be subjected to ridicule. I didn't know it is suddenly a big deal to expect a parent to protect a child, my apologies.

How much mor e protection and support does she need to give? You are yet to tell us what you expect from her other than the mantra you've continually expressed here. Are you expecting she should have insisted her daughter commit abortion? Please be specific. and if according to you the story would have eventually come out as it did, why are you now bursting a vein over it happening?

I didn't insult you, I just refuse to take credit for your unnecessary frothing at the mouth because you have convinced yourself you can see something where there's nothing.

You are working extra time to convince yourself that others are just like you.

Fluffy yellow balls. . . . my raging friend, fluffy yellow ball.

I hold no grudge if that is the messiah you choose to cling on to.

@Sisikill,

Political leanings? political inclinations? Heavens! Please tell me you are joking, LOL. Okay, believe it or not. . . I don't have one! I honestly couldn't careless about the GOP or the Democrats. Why do you doubt that? I mean is it too far-fetched to believe that there are people out there who don't get their blood pressure high over politics, to the point where every and any innocuous statement has an underlying meaning? Well today is your lucky day. . . you've met one.

I never read meaning to your words. I simply revealed the implications. Maybe you never gave much thought to them but they are very clearly showing a bias against the mother when in actuality she and her husband are to be held accountable, if at all anyone other than the girl should be. And by the way, I am not so much for the any Party, but I stand by some principles. That is why I was never moved by either McCain, Obama, Clinton or Biden. But Sarah Palin moves me. She tickles my fancy because of what she stands for.

You said Palin had to step up because they were making it an issue. The girl is Pregnant for goodness sakes, are you telling me it wouldn't have come out? Pray tell how they were going to keep it on the downlow, under such intense scrutiny? Perhaps they were going to tell curious cats, she had a big lunch or maybe they would have gone with the "Oh she's just gaining weight" excuse. LMOA! You act like we are talking about a little scratch here not pregnancy! Goodness!

now you try to change the dynamics. You claim Palin made it a national issue while not alluding to the fact that others started it. Of course it would have become known eventually. However, your point is becoming more and more fuzzy here. If you and I agree that it would have become known, then why the ire about her telling the world on her own terms?

I'm capable of knowing who to direct my. . . rage (?) at, thank you very much. Her mother. . . oh pardon me, her mother and FATHER knew she was pregnant, they knew what would happen when it comes out, they know how blood thirsty the American media is, that she will be used as a political talking point yet they did nothing to shield her from it. THAT. . . Uncle, is my problem.

How should they shield her? By her mom resigniong and going into oblivion to satisfy your desire? Do you want her to just resign herself to the governorship of Alaka all because of her daughter's mistake? How many times have your parents had to change their life goals and ambitions on account of your actions - especially since you became an adult? Where is personal responsibility?

As much as I would love to, I can't take credit for insulting your intelligence, you do a pretty good job of it by yourself.

I expected this age-old tactic. A reversal to personal abuse when you run out of intellectual steam.

Speaking of rage, I hear yellow, fluffy balls. . . with the smiley face, work wonders.

You will do well to take the advice of your counsellor.

By the way, I loove how suddenly a 17 years old is now an Adult daughter. She can't vote, she can't buy herself a bottle of brewski, under the law she is still a minor but we'll just ignore that because it doesn't really flow with the agenda at hand. Lmao, talk about deceit.

Half education is really a disease. Each State in the Federation define what age a person is considered an adult. For Alaska, it is 16.

@bamolowo,

talk about twisting obama's words(and am not a fan of him). he said he doesn't support abortions but stripping the right of abortion from other people are not part of his beliefs. that what i call giving people a choice not hypocrisy.

You are so funny. What if I tell you I am not for murder but I do not support stripping other people their rights to murder. Don't you consider that  a mental case.

a state by state break down shows that the bible belt states not touched by comprehensive sex education actually have the highest rate of abortions and divorce etc.  your article does a good of avoiding that while making a blanket statement about the 19-25 age group.

You get things quite wrong altogether. It targets that age-group because they were the once who received the teaching aof abstinence. The study reflects the fact that STDs, pregnancies and all other vices were less amongs those who were taught abstinence. Dance around that as much as you can but it does not change the facts. And by the way, my article is much more recent than the one you provided.

those kind of people end up in jail or a mental assylum, no humans has absolute control over their urges, that's a reason we have laws.  the wanting to have sex or reproduce is a biological function. u seem to be ignoring the issue of consent

I can say up to 80% of my close friends waited till marriage to have sex. None of them is in a mental asylum. Again, you are making a case for people who commit crimes and can use passion/hormones and urges as a legitimate excuse.

good job limiting their choices and then u accuse of being the ones hellbent on population control. na wa oh.  a woman has a right to do what she wants with her body.

Don't you know that freedom and choices have limits? The principle is this: "Your rights end where mine begins." In other words, a woman's right to her body ends where the baby's right to life begins.

republicans have been promising that for the past 20yrs, what has happened? nada. and guess what happens if roe vs wade gets upturned, people would go back to the good ole days of travelling abroad for abortions or going to quacks.

Of course it takes time to get this done. It takes a change in the composition of the Supreme  Court Justices. Right now, we need just one more vote to be locked down. Current President Bush has so changed the composition and another conservative pick will give us the vote we need. In the mean time, a case that will come Roe v Wade to be revisited is on its way to the Supreme Court. Why do you think Conservatives voted Bush into office twice even though they know his economic prowess is non-existent.

could u please point out the stat that says condom availability programs in high school increase sexual activity

The article is very clear how the use of condom doesn't help relative to abstinence.

@bamolowo,

social conservatives are the ones obsessed with tagging a moral value to everything.

And I've never seen as much hypocrisies as I have seen with left-leaning democrats. Imagine Obama saying he cannot determine when life begins and yet is comfortable with kiling children in their mother's womb? It is the Democrats that are here trying to make the decision of an adult daughter the moral burden of her mother. Again hypocrisy at work.

can u provide evidence sex education classes encourage children to engage in "indiscriminate sex". sex education promotes safe sex INCASE people get the urge to have sex. lots of people are taught about the HPV vaccine, condoms, the reproductive system and STD and also addressing issues about MouthAction blah blah. in the study i posted, u would find out some people thought abstinence only began to engage in MouthAction just to avoid vaginal penetration

Here's a statement from the provided link below to show you the effectiveness of abstinence. The link provides answers to your questions - Dr. Stan Weed told LifeSiteNews.com: “Within the United States, sexual activity rates have been going down among teenagers for about the last 12 or 13 years, and that coincides with when the abstinence education started. Abortion, pregnancies and out of wedlock births rates have also been going down among teens during that same time period. However, pregnancy, abortion and out of wedlock births have been rising for the older age group, between 19-25, a group that has not been targeted by abstinence programs.” http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/jun/07061304.html

there are gender and sexuality courses in college that deal with all these. not limited to abstinence education as u claim. i find it strange character could be defined by keeping one's virginity till marriage

The courses are available in colleges for a fee and yet the condoms are distributed in High School and even lower. At that stage, we should be teaching the kids to master their emotions and libido. Telling them their libido will have the best of them is just plain stupid in my thinking.

yeah a criminal act is comparable to teens having sex. one involves consent, the other doesn't.

Of course both are comparable. A criminal has the urge to commit a crime and has every will-power to go ahead or not. This is the same with sex. It starts with a urge and it takes self-control to avoid having sex. If we claim that we have no power over our sexual urges, then there is absolutely no reason to prosecute any rapist who can claim they couldn't find a concentual sex partner.

na wa o, who says condom availability programs in high school increases sexual activity

Please see the link I provided above.

shhhh, in roe vs wade we trust. a woman has a right not to be burdened by a baby she doesn't want. in this case, conservatives seems to be one hell bent on population control rather than giving people a CHOICE

Of course we give people a choice. If you choose to have sex and make a baby, you have the choice to either keep the child or give it up for adoption. Snuffing out that innocent life is not an option. So what next will you come up with, that parents have the choice to shoot their kids when they are wayward?

The inalienable rights of every human being according to the declaration of independence are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." --Declaration of Independence as originally written by Thomas Jefferson

Please be informed that Roe v Wade will be upturned by the same Judiciary who put it into law. According to Jefferson, any govt that undermines life must be abolished and reconstituted. The Judiciary has done just that, and they are now being re-constituted by the Right who intend to have Roe v Wade reversed.

@Sisikill,

If her father was the one running for VP, thrusting his daughter into the limelight in her condition, I will say the same thing. Honestly, If isn't because I will come off as an idealistic person with her head in the clouds, I would wonder out loud why people can't run for office when their children are old enough (21+) to handle the public scrutiny that comes with it. I feel sorry for kids stuck in the middle of this cesspool called politics.

So your overiding concern here is reallyy the political office and not the parenting as you earlier claimed. Trying to pass of your political inclinations as a concern for a family matter is laughable at best.

I don't know what to say of your attempt to rearrange history to fit your political leanings. Is it selective amnesia or just plain deceit. Who began making the girl a national issue? Was it not the left-leaning blogs who began by lying about the girl claiming she is the real mother of of her brother? Sarah Palin's had to step in to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that the baby wasn't her daughter's. So you see, you should drect your rage at the Democrats, and not this capable mother.

So I don't get how I'm supposed to be insulting anyone's intelligence here.

You incuslt our intelligence by assuming we are too dumb to see that your submissions are politically motivated and not borne out of a genuine concern for the Sarah Palin's adult daughter.

@bamolowo,

first and foremost, what liberal sex culture.  liberalism is basically a freedom of choice and expression.  the social and emotional baggage involved in sex is something that should be discussed with parents and school counselors.

I laugh tire when people use the word liberalism and freedom in the same sentence; except of course they are related by the word antagonism. Liberalism thrives on mass and population control. How you can declare that it enhances and promotes freedom is beyond me. We can go into specifics if you desire.
So our schools and the media can encourage our children to be involved in indiscriminate sex with the hope that parents will carry the garbage at home? Is your idea of sex education just limited to sex? Sex education is not complete without teaching about self-control, character and selflessness, and when these topics are considered, nothing but abstinence encompases it all.   

yeah for those who have absolute control over their hormones and emotions. it hasn't worked so in the bible belt

So should we stop asking people to quit stealing just because theft is abounding each day? Your submission baffles me in no small terms. When we hand over condoms to our kids, we are in effect telling them their emotions and hormones will rule them all their lives. What is the purpose of anger management if we are all slaves to our emotions and hormones? A man of character is one who is able to master and control them and not one who is controlled by them. What kind of children are we raising?

And please be clear on one fact, we may preach absitnence and believe in it, but we are most compassionate to those who fall short. We believe in personal responsibility, and will naturally expect any one who makes a baby to nuture it and not kill it. That is where we greatly differ.

My issue has absolutely nothing to do with politics, it is about parenting. Period

Do not insult our intelligence. If this was all about parenting, why have we gone through 5 pages and still no mention of the girl's father? The focus is solely on Mrs Palin for one reason and one reason only - political expediency.

@bamolowo,

there are other preventative methods besides condoms, there is actually research going on about a male birth control pill but i won't go deep into that. you also have the billings method etc. the chance of unwanted pregnancies are slim with comprehensive sex education.

Do all these preventative methods deal with the social and emotional baggage that accompanies liberal sex culture? What about the character flawed kids we are breeding through these attitudes? Does any of these matter to you at all? Abstinence is still the best way to deal with teenage pregnancies and STDs.

@SeanT21,

Why did she not guide her daughter in the right steps?

Who told you she did not guide her children aright? And by the way, the keyword here is "guide". That I provide you guidance dos not mean you will follow it. Besides, this is an adult who can choose whatever path she wants to walk on and I praise her parents for letting her live through the consequences of her action and not kill an innocent child to make their daughter's life easier.

I can't believe you said that Democrats are control freak. Give me an example Please.

They want to control healthcare, trade, free speech, our energy consumption etc, I'll give you details if you so desire, but I want you to give that a thought first.

Why is Barack in this. I was referring to Michelle Obama.

Barack is in this because he has not shown a good judgement as muich as Palin and I have to choose between one or the other.

her mother is a potential VP of the US who preferred abstinence over sex education

Your statement in bold is so laughable. So abstinence is not part of sex education? Please don't say this for anyone to hear. So the first thing you'll teach your kids when you want to teaach them about sex is to hand them condoms, abi? Una try o. Does condom deal with the social and emotional implications of sex? Please answer.

@SeanT21,

If she can not control her teenage daughter do you think she can rule the country.

Herein lies the folly of your thought. It is not a Parent's job to control their children, especially when that child is an adult as in Palin's case. I like the way Will Smith puts it. Let me paraphrase his statement thus: "we are partners in our children's lives but they are ultimately responsible for their lives."

And by the way, it is not the Govt's job to control its citizens. That is where Democrats and Republicans are different as well. Democrats are control freaks who care nothing for personal or economic freedom. They want their hands in everything and think the Govt should think for you, and care for you. Personal responsibility is alien to them.

And trying to compare this situation to Obama's is totally laughable. Obama as an adult chose to be bed-fellows with a convicted terrosrist and sat in the pew of a racist preacher for 20 years. These show a lack of good judgement, and I tremble at the thought of him becoming the President of the USA.

@topic,

I am appalled by the people who are here condemning the policy of abstinence that the Republicans stand by.  You obviously think of only the physical consequences of sex and not its emotional and social implications.  

And for your information, no form of control is 100% fail-proof except abstinence. Condoms break, and when that happens, you are at a risk of not only an unwanted pregnancy but of contracting STDs. Please tell us what the remote chances of any of these risks happening with abstinence.

I will personally encourage my kids to "hold-body" until marriage not only because it is the best way to avoid unwanted pregnancy and STDs, but it is one of the best ways to build and develop character. Abstinence encourages self-control which is the foundation of good character. Teaching the kids to have it whenever and with whomever they want breeds nothing but self-centered kids who lacks self-control and are controlled by their genitalias.


With regards to Palin, I am all the more encouraged to vote for her knowing fuilly well that this is someone who not only talks the talk, but walks the walk. It would have been more expedient for her politically to have had the child abort the pregnancy without anyone finding out, but she didn't. I stand and agree with her whn she says no baby is born by accident and that all have the potential to change the world. Obama on the other hand feels that having a child like that is nothing but a punishment and that such a baby should be aborted. If his mum had such an idea, even Obama would have been aborted.

@TS360,

I don't know where you get your info from, but it is a forgone conclusion that McCain did far better at the forum than Obama. this is what happens when Obama does not get his questions before hand. He has been protected and shielded from tough questioning by the obama-press, which is one of the reasosn why he declines a no-holds-barred town hall meeting with McCain.

I can't wait till the debates when they will go head-to-head. I just hope they will not be presented with their questions before hand. Obama has being aided before now with tele-prompters and there are reports of how he freezes when therre is a problem with the tele-prompters.

@4Play,

You know I saw the article a while back but just didn't post it on this forum for obvious reasons. I really think those who will rather take religion out of the Middle East conflict are either extremely ignorant or totally blind.

@topic,

Una don come with your errors again. Abeg take am easy. The only qualification for heaven or for the rapture is to be a Christian. The only requirement to be a Christina is to accept Jesus as your Lorad and Saviour. Adding to this is nothing short of "another gospel".

I dey go sleep. Its 1am here.

I want to cry!

Make I bring bucket?

All of una don sleep?

Either messi don hypnotise dem or na PHCN old Power

Postings don slow down to a crawl now. Weting happen? Abi na de goal?

@Hannibal,

Seun, u are buying DRINKS for everyone if we WIN.
Bring out your wallet right away.

Awoof dey run belle o. Seun provide free internet discussion for you and you dey ask for stout now. Wetin you go ask for next, hin girlfriend?

Make Ref blow oo

May Messi not see the Referee's Mercy today o. Amin