₦airaland Forum

@ibime,

I summarize Senator Obama's legislative record in the US Senate. First I list the bills he sponsored that have become law. Next I summarize the bills that he has sponsored or cosponsored since he became a US Senator in 2005.I have only included major pieces of legislation and have not summarized continuing resolutions or naming post offices, for example.His record suggests several priorities and the bills he supports address many of our most pressing problems.Most of his legislative effort has been in the area of Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills), health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills), consumer protection/labor (14 bills), the needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills), Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills), Foreign Policy (10 bills) Voting and Elections (9 bills), Education (7 bills), Hurricane Katrina Relief (6), the Environment (5 bills), Homeland Security (4 bills), and discrimination (4 bills).

Can you see how many times you used the personal pronoun "I" in the submission above. yet like Biden, you don't think it is plagiarism to give credit to the source?

@Ibime,

Don't you think plagiarism is something to be ashamed of? Why didn't you provide us with the source of your information? Are you afraid or ashamed to do that?

@Ibime,

Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:
Two addressed foreign policy:
-Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)
[b]-Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

Where did you get your information from. You guys are so full of lies its unbelievable. Legislation S. 2370 was sponsored by Sen. Mitch McConnell, a Republican and was co-sponsored by 70 Senators among whom were Senators McCain and Obama.  http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-2370

@Ibime,

Barack Obama - Around 129 Bills sponsored, 1 successful
Hillary Clinton - Around 354 Bills sponsored, 2 successful
John McCain - Around 403 Bills sponsored, 12 successful

Let's put this in proper perspective. If we are looking at who is able to get anything done through bipartisan support and the ability to unite the country, we have to consider averages.

Obama - Average of 1 Bill passed per 129 Bills (and still counting) sponsored.
Hillary - Average of 1 Bill passed per 177 Bills (and still counting) sponsored.
McCain - Average of 1 Bill passed per 34 Bills (and still counting) sponsored.

Doesn't this tell us McCain is a better achiever than both of these people put together? Infact, you have provided us with a more solid reason why the change we need is McCain  .

@Ibime,

For you, that is a laughing matter

common. Where is anyone laughing? I merely stated his record and here yhou are going on the offensive. Abeg cooloo temper.

Is this the same Obama that dismissed Nigeria as a haven for 419ers? Is this the same guy that threw his grandma and supposedly uncle under the bus for political expediency? Please don't be fooled that he cares nothing for Africa. Will you say Bush cares more for Africa than Clinton because of his record of giving more aid to Africa?

I think it will be good to focus more on record than the intentions of a man's heart. Afterall, I have stated why I think palin is more experienced than Obama and I am still awaiting your response.

@Davidylan,

Many Palin supporters today didnt care that Clinton had nothing but 7yrs in the senate for "experience" too (Tayo-D especially) . . . all of a sudden it has become a criteria?

Not only do you not check your facts when you debate, you seem to be suffering from selective amnesia as well.

In our discussion on the thread "Hockey Players,  Sarah Palin for President", you said the following:

Bros, i don't agree with you AT ALL AT ALL. Before Palin, there was Hillary Clinton . . . there was NO doubt in my mind she was perfectly qualified to be president.

To which I responded with the following: "Clinton qualified to be president? On what basis, being a former First lady?"  You should find the link here: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=167840.msg2759643#msg2759643

Can you reconcile that with your balatant accusation at my person here? You really need to settle down and do some thinking before you contribute here.

@Negro_Ntns,

Ta

yo, they are going to ask you to produce more specifics.

Very typical innit? In the mean time, only one of the measures Obama has sponsored as a U.S. senator has been enacted: a bill to “promote relief, security, and democracy in the Democratic Republic of Congo.” that Bill is sandwitch between two personal memoirs he's written. Is this the guy some are counting on to bring change?

As Sarah Palin said: "Some use CHANGE to further their careers (people like Obama), while others use their career (Palin, McCain) to further CHANGE.

@KarmaMod, or is it Karma Sutra?

Sho fe kin sepe fun e sha?

The only way your epe can "catch" me is if you strip naked in downtown Manhattan in the middle of rush hour to cast your Harry Potter spell. Other than that, you are just wasting your time. And I dare you to do just that. Please give us a time 'cos I am sure Davidylan would want to catch a site of those "twin-bombers".

First 4Play, now you. wetin do you people?

Maybe you need to examine yourself first.

@Davidylan,

on what basis is Palin more qualified than Obama?

Here's the answer to your questions. I only hope you do not start changing the goal post again as you have learnt to do so Babangidally  !

1. Palin manages a workforce of 24,000 state employees while Obama does not.

2. Palin manages a v$10 billion budget while Obama does not

3. Palin has stood up to the Legislative Branch of Govt through her veto, while Obama has not.

4. Palin reduced property taxes in the City of Wasilla by 40% while Obama has never taekn the initiative nor record of lowering taxes.

5. Palin funded the tax rebate to her citizens by successfully levying taxes on big oil whom she claimes kept taxes low by improperly influencing the State legislators. Obama Senate, along with the House and Presidency funded their tax rebates by borrowing money from China.

6. Palin reducced her own salary, sold the Governor's jet and fired the Governor's Cook, while Obama has never being known to reduce his own benefits for the sake of his constituency.

Since your question is a direct comparison between both people, I will appreciate to keep to that in responding to my salient points.

@Davidylan,

what that means is that you have no point. JFK was no governor, Reagan was not a governor. I have consistently asked, when did this "you must have executive experience" become a criteria? It wasnt there when Kerry was running for president, it wasnt there for Al Gore . . . all of a sudden Obama comes in and the noise is about "experience"?

Why are you exposing your ignorance in public now. Reagan was a former Governor of California before running for the Presidency.

The Republicans are not the once who started this issue of experience. It was no other than the Democrats. Is it not the same Biden who reiterated twice that Obama does not have the prerequisite experience to be President and that the presidency does not lend itself to on-the-job training?

@Davidylan,

the Walmart director does practically the same thing. shld we vote him into office too?

What that means is that Walmart Director has more experience managing human and material resources than Obama. I'll pick him and/or Palin over Obama anyday.

@Davidylan,

Well then tell us about this "experience".

Does managing 24,000 state employees and a $10 billion budget count, considering that you keep ignoring everything selse that stares you in the face?

@StephenP,

It's sad you don't anything about who you're supporting yet I, a Democrat, know more about Palin than you do.

If it makes you happy to hold this thought, please knowck yourself out.

By the way, Palin is Governor of Alaska.

So you've scurried back to those websites to get more enlightened baa? I thought you said she is the Governor of a town in Alaska.  

@StephenP,

Oh please do forgive my ignorance. I guess I should rely on you since you live with her and so have first hand information.

Live with her? Wetin concern agbero with overload. If you must copy and paste, you should at least try to understand what you are reading before you come here and disgrace yourself in an attempt to inpugne on someone else's character.

@Davidylan,

Uncle tayo, is Sarah Palin your aunty?

She no be o, neither is McCain my uncle. Last time I checked too, Obama and Biden no answer my surname.

See, stephenP, i warned you.

No mind the guy jare. He is trying to make someone appear like an olodo, and yet don't know the difference btw a Gov and a Mayor.

@StephenP,

First, she has no relevant experience save for the fact that she is Governor of a town in Alaska speaking of which,

It is so funny when you find people who make an attempt to appear informed looking so stupid through sheer display of ignorance on the www.

@Davidylan,

Tayo-D, that is not news. I've known about that all along. Just letting 4Play and you know that Sarah Palin isnt exactly a model of intellectual acumen.

Who ever said she was? As usual, you keep having an argument with yourself.

@KarmaMod,

One would think a guy like Tayo-D would be against daycare.

That's the problem, you are not thinking.

@Davidylan,

Someone like Sarah Palin?

You meant to say Joe Biden?! Have you researched his academic record. and especially his lies about his record? Here's something to chew on: He then went on to say that he ''went to law school on a full academic scholarship - the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,'' Mr. Biden said. He also said that he ''ended up in the top half'' of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition. In college, Mr. Biden said in the appearance, he was ''the outstanding student in the political science department'' and ''graduated with three degrees from college.'' Comments on Assertions

In his statement today, Mr. Biden, who attended the Syracuse College of Law and graduated 76th in a class of 85, acknowledged: '' I did not graduate in the top half of my class at law school and my recollection of this was inacurate.'' - http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE4D91F3CF931A1575AC0A961948260&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

Hey Guys,

Nice chatting with y'all. I got to go pick my kids from day care. I no fit pay $10/min overtime!

@karmaMod,

I go after Palin because I find the whole situation pathetic and desperate. Her having a vagina isnt going to make me applaud her.

No wonder David admires you so much. While we are talking politics here, all he could talk about were the twin gifts you carry on your chest. And here you are refering to Palin's vagina just as David did recently. birds of the same feather indeed!

@Ibime,

Mr McCain was doing well with his fairly moderate views IMO. . . . until he brought this Sarah Palin in. . . .

Once someone does not agree with you, he no longer does well. Talk about intolerance.

it is funny how the Republican party was never fired up behind McCain until he brought this redneck bitch in. . . .

It was because of the fear that he is too liberal. palin makes a big difference.

we are supposed to be talking about how to move America forward. . . . but as usual the Republicans have reverted to type by trying to fight this election on culture wars. . . . . and these are the people Tayo-D chooses to dine with?

Its not just about culture, its a whole lot of issues. that you choose to get fixated on one issue does not make that the reality.

.

. . . I wish the Republicans would fight elections on fiscal policy alone. . . . I may consider voting for them then if I was American.

I believe McCain is the only Senator that does not accept Pork-barrel money and has vowed to veto every bill that has pork in it while making a helluva noise about the Senators who did. No wonder they are all running scared.

. . .but throwing sand in our eyes by instituting culture wars shows the level of their character. . . . so phock them. . .

Again, you are just fixated on one issue.

. that is when this election becomes divisive. . . . divisive policies by divisive people. . . . let them know the world is becoming urbanised now. . . . soon enough their divisive politics will stop attracting voters.

So we are divisive in solong as we do not stand up for our beliefs. You should probably live in communist China.

. . their fan base is already getting old. . . . in 20 years they will be struggling to win elections unless they drop these culture wars and bible fanaticism. .

You are obviously out of touch.

. . Tayo, you better believe that your skin colour is not a pigment of the Republicans imagination. . . it is real! . . . and hell yeah, they have made it into an election issue. . . . country first, national security, the American President Americans have been waiting for. . . . .what do you think all these slogans are if not playing to their redneck base?. . .  these are the people you choose to pin your hat on. . . . nama shobiri!

I'm not standing by anyone because of personality but on the issue. The Republicans are more in tune with my core values in what a govt should be. That is why I am with them. Get it?!

@Davidylan,

Lets be ENTIRELY HONEST. Put white skin on Obama and he'D be leading the polls by no less than 20%.

Are you not the same person who agreed with me on another thread that if Obama was White, he could never be where he is today? So what changed? A morbid hatred for Palin?

@KarmaMod,

So you are TOH ehn! Anyway, the tit-for-tats tactics is sometimes the best way to teach a lesson. I'm sure you understand excatly what I was driving at.

A

t least I can't provide quotes on WHY I believe(d) you were a big fan of the woman because of her stances on abortion, after all there's a thread where that's all you raved about in regards to the woman.

I agree with her on that issue just as thomas Jefferson does with regards to the Decalration of Independence. However, hinging my support of her based solely on this is outright ludicrous.

You however don't have any proof for you to claim I'm for Obama because of  his race. Infact you can't even prove that I'm for Obama, period. Thus I win, you still lose.

We are not going to give Palin a Yes or No vote in November. Rather, we will be shoocing one of two "evils" Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin. Vehemently crucifying Palin while letting the alternative go scot-free is an eloquent testimony of where your allegiance lie. For example, until Palin was picked by McCain, I was not enthusiastic about either candidates, even though I still would vote McCain ahead of Obama.

Biden sef should be president.

You are on your own o. As Guliani quipped, "Palin had more votes running for the mayor of Wasilla than Biden had running for President."

@karmaMod,

Tayo, don't be an slowpoke. I'm begging you. I don't have time for that kind of nonsense so I'm pleading with you right now. Btw that "dod" had better have been a typo.

Your assumption is making me sick. Care to show me where I've ever even hinted towards voting for Obama talkless of voting for him for his skin color? Please show me and don't embarrass yourself with idiotic remarks towards me because I wont tolerate it

Its funny how you never hold yourself up to the same principles that you demand of others. Where in this thread have I said i support Palin just because she is "pro-life". My staement above is in response to your earlier baseless accusation at me.

You obviously don't like being misinterpreted, so don't do it to others.

@BigB1,

You think you do, but sorry, you don't!

So now you know me better than I do myself? You are more desillusioned than I thought.

Again, Why do you hate yourself Obama this much?

You obsiously don't know how to read, else you would have fund your answer before now.

@Davidylan,

More bull. Can you "stand for" something you don't know?

I may not know much about her, but I know more about her than Obama. I know she's accomplished more in her political lifetime than Obama. I have to choose btw both of them, and Palin trumps Obam big time.

Did you know Sarah Palin 4 weeks ago?

Yes. For your information. Any more question?

Can you tell us which of her policies you approve or disapprove of?

See the following for example: http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Sarah_Palin_Budget_+_Economy.htm

@karmadod,

I don't know what to say. Only reason why he's drooling for the woman is because he believes she's one of those "rare traditional women"

And could it be that your only reason for standing against her is because she does not share the same skin pigmentation with you? How silly!

Whole thing is amusing.

Exactly.

@Davidylan,

Spare us this ignorant BS. Sarah Palin collected the $233m earmarked for that project and has not returned it. In essence tax payers till got burdened with an abandoned project.

It is not an abandoned project because it never got underway. See how you always twist the truth. That's typical and mirrors the same charges you alluded to a while back regarding the pipeline project. She never said anything about construction but y'all were claiming that.

The money was used for other projects. You are not more concerned about the budget of that State than she is. This is someone who not only balanced her budget and several years of deficit, but had enough money left to send checks to every Alaskan. The Presidency, Obama Senate and congress borowed money to do this for the tax rebate. She trumps them all together.

@BigB1,

@Tayo-D:

Why do you hate yourself Obama this much?

Unlike you, I do not have an identity crisis. I know who I am and what I stand for. I am not defined by the colour of my my skin pigmentation. So to define my disapproval of Obama's policy has nothing to do with my identity.

and for your information, you might want to pick up the dictionary to find out what the what "hate" means. I do not have to school you that disapproval of Obam's policies does not amount to hatred of his person. You just keep finding ways to make this debate trivial.

@karmaMod,

She didnt remember it was a burden when she was more than READY TO SUPPORT IT until she was laughed at then suddenly changed her mind

So she changed her mid because she was laughed at baa? You guys just make up baseless stories with no substance. You think someone who has fouhgt the establishment in all her political career will be detered by womeone laughing? Please find another excuse. In any case, what thing of substance has Obama done since he became a Senator?

Quit making excuses for her all because she's "pro life"

As if being pro-life is a joke. McCain was pro-life and I wasn't enthused by him. So find another excuse.

@BigB1,

The republicans have only approved this TV interview because it was becoming too obvious that Palin is being shielded from the media.

There is nothing obvious about her not granting any interviews so far. The press cannot dictate her schedule and must abide by her dictates

FYI: Obama has been to the View show, Keith Obermannt show, Larry King Show, David letterman show, Bill O'Rielly (Foxnews), 60 minutes, and many many more.

Oh please tell me, how many days, nay months, nay years after his run for the presidency that Obama finally wound up on Bill O'Reilly? Please compare that to the few days it takes before Sarah palin will be on TV with a hostile host and network. it seems like you just do not judge on a set standard.

Sean Hannity show is a show that is designed for mindless kids; therefore, this ignoramus show doesn't count.

Your statment does not do justice to the impression that you do not think better than a mindless kid.

@Big B1,

LOL!
You're one funny joker.
With time, we shall all see.

You are now determined to resort to "time" since you cannot hold Obama up to the standard you are asking for palin, even though Palin beats and McCain beat the standards hands down. Typical, very typical.